What's the ratio between AGP and trutrans posters on /lgbt/?
>>6095471
100000000:1
Same as the Mtf:ftm ratio
>>6095471
The AGP call themselves trutrans.
>>6095471
All of the trips are undoubtedly AGP.
>>6095471
all trannies are agp, they just pretend not to be so they can feel better than the "disgusting fetishists"
>>6095471
0.000001% are actually transexual and have gender dysphoria.
Everyone else is a fetishist teenager destroying their life or a 55 year old asperger's ridden male.
It literally goes on forever.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fASaBrO-aE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqX7QcrVt6M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzGfqubFIoI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKWCvYDEwy8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6wnfieF_j4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQ_tsSyxmKM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEQYWys8Lg0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ar3WPjE8yN4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=428JxjVJqwQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXhjrbv8UPQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAaYSIx9Qmw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0tLuHdXOhA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeO2--ggXOg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJnFsYa4i3E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kd1X3O8PgHY
>>6096159
Lol holy shit.
>>6096159
Hons. Hons everywhere.
According to Blanchard AGP is an orientation. It can no more be cured than being gay. AGPs are in a sexual and romantic relationship with themselves. AGP often begins at puberty, Solution? Encourage AGPs to transistion during puberty. Then theyll hopefully grow into a qt lesbian/bisexual nerdy gamer grrl rather than a fetishist hon.
So those fetishist teenagers are already doomed, and are managing their condition best they can.
>>6096159
I always cringe at the hons that try to overplay dysphoria. They act like it is some kind of crippling disease that gave them autism, bipolar, agoraphobia and other mental disorders.
>>6098104
blanchard is a retard tho and fudges his results and takes stupid measurements
>>6098104
>AGP often begins at puberty
but I wanted to be a girl as early as 8 and 10 years old
At least guys tell me I pass and/or look like a kid when I'm 25
>>6095496
It is weird how different sites with trans-catered 'spaces' have their own certain ratios. With Tumblr it's more trans dudes, with /legbutts/, there are more trans women - so on and so forth.
Why is this?
>>6100174
4chan = beta males = future mtfs
tumblr = queer teenage girls = future ftms
>>6100174
tumblr = teenage girls who want to feel special and will likely outgrow it in a few years
/lgbt/ = pure degenerates
>>6098135
My problem with them is they make these claims and then they dont fucking even have these problems. To me gender dysphoria is this destructive plague on my soul that eats away my happiness and will to live.
They just say oh I was depressed all the time and 1 time I thought about killing myself, so they can apply the DSMV requirements to themselves when they are just a faggot.
Then they go on to live successful lives and raise families and look like my worst nightmare like someone found out I was trans and kept me in their basement psychologically torturing me chained to a bed forcing me to breed women while I was crossdressed.
Like holy fuck all I did was self injure my body and try and OD constantly. Id just slash at myself and injure myself all the time because I hated my body so much I wanted to cut it off me. I have a trans friend that used to smash her testicles all the time to try and stop puberty. Ive seen trans girls slice open their ballsack and try and cut their balls off.
"I was sooooo depressed I continued my life for 50 years as if everything was okay."
>>6100203
I love getting me bp DOM'd by an alpha afro daddy like I was masta's only son and the last guard in the way of his freedom.
>>6098104
>tfw wasn't born 10 years later to have been able to discover this shit early and be a qt gril
>>6100227
Wow, hOT.
We're all one giant happy family of degeneracy! (:
>>6100272
thank you! seriously disgusting how people keep pushing that meme as if it's a real thing
>>6100302
Moap?
>>6100456
kys, dude
>>6100126
>>6100272
>>6100291
Ok if AGP isnt real, how do you explain all these fetishist hons? Or other funny things like desiring to become a translesbian after watching too much lesbian porn. Or crossdressers feeling like a woman when wearing womens clothing. etc.
Even if AGP is incorrect, its a simple albeit far fetched explanation for a comlex phenomenon.
People assume where theres smoke theres fire.
>>6100219
These dysphoric hons who fathered children do experience a worsening dysphoria as they age. It starts out by desiring to be a sexy lady, but as they get older it bothers them very much that they never got to be a woman. Think of it like a slow burn dysphoria. Also since their older they grew up in a time where being an unmanly faggot was unaccetable so they blazed ahead with career and family, while keeping their womanly fantasies a secret.
Great example is Bruce Jenner. So fucking manly he wins gold medal at 25. Really wishes he was a lady deep down. Begins transistion at 30 but detransitions when he meets his wife. dysphoria never goes away and then says fuck it and becomes Caitlyn.
>>6100752
dont listen to moap she's just doing her thing
agp is very real
>>6100752
jenner started transitioning at 30?
>>6098104
>AGP often begins at puberty
So I'm fine? I remember wanting to be a girl when I was like 5 or 6.
>>6096159
They're destroying their lives by cutting off testosterone which lowers one's lifespan!! How outrageous!!!
>>6100752
Because its not a thing. Its never been a thing.
They are just bored autistic aspergers ridden cuck males who think that the grass is greener on the other side.
They just need to stop trying to be transexual and just admit that they are fetishistic transvestites and be that. They enjoy crossdressing and get sexual satisfaction from it. so they need to just go use their fetlife profile more and get fucked in their aidsholes and be done with it. Not black face an entire people because they want acceptance. Go fuck yourself.
They are just like pedophiles trying to latch onto us because they want an excuse for their degenerate behavior.
Theres no fucking excuse for looking or acting like that.
Maybe in the 60s there was an excuse but we have the internet now and like 20 billion videos done by cis women teaching you how to do makeup and fashion and what the fuck ever and you can do all of this in the privacy of your own home.
Even if you arent transexual, you should not be a giant fucking faggot and dress appropriately so you dont be a fucking asshole to them. I dont see how this is any different then going around in black face saying NIGGA NIGGA NIGGA WATERMELON TITTIES ASS. NAH I WATCHED FRIDAY NIGGA IM A REAL NIGGA IMA VICK DEM SHOES NIGGA IF U DON STEP DA FUKK BACK WHITE BOI
>>6100752
Also if you havent attempted suicide and thought about suicide constantly since puberty
GUESS WHAT
YOU DONT HAVE GENDER DYSPHORIA
>>6100888
No they are destroying their lives by ironically giving themselves chemically induced gender dysphoria when they wake up one day and realize oh shit im a fucking freak not a woman or a man. I was a man but now im just a fucking freak show. Then they blow their brains out.
>>6101056
And what if they're that way because they can't ever pass and live life being treated as a freak and discriminated, not because they lack dysphoria?
>>6101068
Thats bullshit faggot.
Stop enabling them.
Like I said theres billions of examples to follow.
It doesnt matter if youre a fuckign ugly motherfucker.
Youd literally have to be shrek mode to not pass.
Theres hundreds of millions of ugly fucking women.
Have you never been to walmart?
They are purposely putting in zero effort and the backlash they should be getting from us and that they do get from society and we get thrown under the bus as well is ENTIRELY their own fault.
>>6101090
Just like Jenner who has hundreds of millions potentially billions of dollars at his disposal and hes now a public figure and does he hire every voice training in LA to teach him how to talk?
Fuck no he puts on pretty dresses and carves up his face because thats all thats important to him. He doesnt suffer from gender dysphoria because opening his fucking mouth would make him want to commit suicide and it doesnt.
He like all the others doesnt give a single flying fuck. He's just in the pretty dressies and everything because he has the cash to shove into people's faces. If he didnt have the cash he would be just like any of the people in >>6096159
>>6101090
How many ciswomen are 6'4 with linebacker shoulders and hank hill backsides?
>>6101108
nobody cares about that shit
theyd care that you dont sound, act, and dress like a woman
if anything its easier for you to pass because almost all tall women are manly as fuck helga russian powerlifters. People expect that shit.
>>6101108
plenty, hun!
>>6101090
Why don't they just take hormones and stay in boymode? That's what I do, because I know I'd be that >>6101108 person. I don't buy this shit that they "need" to wear panties and skirts. Bullshit. I hate my body and how people treat me, clothing doesn't fix shit. Women's clothes are pointless if you look like a freak in them.
>>6101342
I would love to wear a feminine attire but the shame overwhelms me from my childhood of being beaten for this sort of thing. I'd rather do that in private for my boyfriend.
>>6101342
Also this.
Why not just aim for bulldyke or tomboy?
>>6100851
Do you have agp fantasies and jack off to them....?
>>6101102
I think the voice thing is unfair. You can have extreme dysphoria and still be completely overwhelmed with the task of changing your voice
>>6095471
I have GID but won't transition and don't find it a fetish. Where does that put me?
>>6101535
>won't transition
depends on why
>>6101545
Too much risk, stigma, mood swings, and ending up looking like an abomination isn't worth it. Not to mention having a worthless "vagina" and rendering myself sterile.
>>6101550
>I have gender dysphoria
>I need to chop my dick off or im not trutrans
>Relieving my dysphoria would cause too much dysphoria
Nigga plz what are you doing
Transitioning stopped my mood swings
>>6101550
>Too much risk
you're a tranny
I'd say you're gonna regret putting it off, but I'm not the boss so do whatever I guess
>>6101570
how old are you?
>>6101570
It's not halfway to everyone. That's my end goal.
>>6101585
Way too old to start. 25 now. I look young but the bone structures already there.
I remember my mother told me some time ago I'd make for an ugly woman. She said it as a joke, forgot how the conversation even got to that, but I kind of understood it's true.
Plus I wouldn't be able to do my job anymore. The stigma would be too much, I'd be the elephant in the room.
>>6101592
Whatever floats your boat I guess, I don't see that for myself.
>>6101570
Your fucking dick doesnt define your sexuality.
The whole fucking idea of being a transexual is that your brain is different then your body.
You could even let your dick atrophy so its basically a clit anyways.
Then you could get an orchi.
What the fuck do you think they do with your dick in srs? Make you a clit out of what?
THE FUCKING TINY HEAD OF YOUR DICK
The only fucking difference is the fucking hole being there or not.
>>6101603
>my mommy said I cant transition cause she has opinions based on nothing
>im going to dress up like >>6096159 and be made fun of
Fuck off hons. Youre exactly what im fucking talking about. And everyone thinks im crazy. You do this shit to yourself. You put zero effort in and expect results. You act like a walking living stereotype and go oh man im gonna get treated like a fucking freak boo hoo. Well stop fucking acting like one. Fucking christ.
Im two years into transition and nobody has a single fucking clue because I just keep my fake male persona up while Im saving up money and everything. Nobody has any idea im transitioning, yet I get mamed in public and shit all the time.
Hell some 3rd worlder who doesnt understand that im a boy messaged me today asking me to be his wife and shit and Im in boy mode with a boy name with boy clothes on.
Im fucking 28 and only been on mones for like a year and a half. I mean shit if I wasnt confident in not being clocked id let my facial hair grow longer. Most people just think Im like an emo andro boy since I just stay in perm stubble. If I shave I get mamed.
Youd be suprised how far you can get being andro or in certain styles and nobody thinks twice.
Nobody has ever called me a freak or a faggot or anything and I live in a republican retirement state surrounded by mormons, 60 year old racist white people, and religious catholics.
I honestly use my disgust for hons to fuel this sort of fake homophobia around me and people misread me as homophobic and im fine using that.
>>6101690
>wall of text pissed off about something.
>implying implications
Yeah you're really convincing me now.
>>6101723
Well you need to figure your shit out because the clock is ticking on passing. I mean even if you dont pass, you could be living the life im living forever and youre needlessly punishing yourself. Your the one that has to live with their dysphoria not me.
>>6101743
>I mean even if you dont pass, you could be living the life im living forever
I don't know if you're talking to me or yourself at this point, this part escapes me. Plus the hostility is one of the reasons why I never bother asking this sort of thing anyway. Good luck with whatever you're pursuing, and goodbye.
>>6101759
Im saying if you dont pass, you could easily still be an androgynous boy forever instead of a hairy gross disgusting man. Im also saying that I would never ever EVER go back to being on testosterone. Estrogen just feels right.
>>6101777
check em
>>6100787
Jenner's been transitioning for decades. She didn't come out about it until recently when tabloids started picking up on it and essentially outed her.
>>6102011
really? like decades on hormones?
>>6102101
no
>>6102101
no
she drank horse piss for a bit then decided that making hundreds of millions of dollars was more important so she didnt transition and is now transitioning to get attention because her kids and entire family hate her and she has nothing else to cling too and everyone enables her because they get paid too. Her kids call her out on her bullshit on the show all the time. Why arent you doing voice training? You look and act like a man etc. They literally go hon patrol for half the series with like 6 other hons and they give jenner shit about not having sucked dicks for money like a trutrans or some shit. The whole thing is disgusting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=koOTP7PmtW8
>>6102206
> Why arent you doing voice training? You look and act like a man etc. They literally go hon patrol for half the series
lmao
is this somewhere in that vid? i'm cringing watching, i can't finish it
>>6096159
This is like Spiders Georg except someone seriously thinks that way.
This is what transphobes actually believe.
>>6103054
Some people require SRS to relieve themselves of the phantom limb sensation, and some don't even have it at all. Though i must wonder how many detransition because they got SRS when they should not have done so.
Is it common enough for gay couples to transition together? My partner came out to me and it makes me feel much better about my desire to live as a woman. We're non-op so sex won't change much.
>>6103104
>two gays were actually transbians all along
>>6100787
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3055315/From-female-hormones-thoughts-Denmark-sex-exchange-cross-dressing-public-marrying-Kris-Bruce-Jenner-nearly-transitioned-1980s-planned-return-Aunt-Heather-children.html
>>6100851
In Blanchard land if you are a homo, all your friends were girls, and you were always kinda effeminate you are HSTS, otherwise AGP. Fuck Ive even seen some claim floating around that AGP boys can find mild eroticism towards crossdressing even before puberty. Blanchard also thinks men who are psychologically comforted by being more feminine, even without arousal still count as AGP.
>>6101031
There is a huge link between autism and gender dyshoria. Blanchard totally overlooked that possibly. But he needed something to explain why highly masculine men were seeking treatment for gender dyshoria.
>>6101090
Ugly as shit but looks cis is not the same as man in a dress.
>>6101143
This woman is probably on steroids and has a masculinized voice. I could be wrong though.
>>6102206
I've tried to watch that show, but I just can't.
>>6103691
reading that really makes me feel bad for her...i mean there are plenty of youngish people today that could have been young pretty transitioners if they were born a decade later and had the internet at a young age, and you see the same thing with jenner. wouldn't the same shit happen to 90% of the trannies on here today if they were born 60 years earlier?
>>6104593
I would assume most would just kill themselves.
I know I would. I seriously wanted to die and had tried to kill myself many many times prior to learning hrt was a thing and I didnt have to be a disgusting hon.
>>6104593
Yep totally agree.
>>6101031
Also should mention that Blanchards homosexual transexuals would of been the biggest fucking beta cucks possible. Imagine being a boy in elementary school, in the 1960s, such a beta loser that only the girls will accept you. So HSTS boy is used to being a beta cuck and then discovers his homosexuality in his teens and then later learns about transexuality in early adulthood.
The more masculine AGP boy sees HSTS boy being bullied all the time and makes sure to keep his gender conflict hidden. Also helps that he is strongly attracted to girls at least initially.
>>6105017
i don't see how it's less likely for one to just try to forget about it and continue living suppressing the feelings
>>6105073
Supression rarely works, it doesn't even work with tiny domestic issues that turn out into huge fights at the drop of the hat. The healthy version is accepting, recognizing that you won't do anything about it and finding goals that are outside of it.
>>6105063
You know Blanchard is retarded right?
The only difference is not being socially retarded and knowing how to hide your feelings so you don't get ostracized. Then if you can do this, it makes absolutely no sense that you become a hon being that you must understand how to act/look/etc like a woman to avoid being seen as one and attacked.
>>6105101
I would just kill myself or find and be with a gay man or something. I would never give up the last of my dignity as a woman and become a prostitute like the rest of those disgusting faggots. I mean shit even now you dont have to do that ever. I could hit up OKC and probably within 20m be someone's sex slave in LA.
>>6105116
I used to put a gun in my mouth and try and pull the trigger pretty much every day. Cut the ever living fuck out of myself constantly (pic semi-related) Id get 99 proof alcohol and drink as much as I could until id pass out. I smoked a ton of cigs and got nicotine poisoning. I never used pills because I fucking hate opiods.
Sometimes I would just close my eyes while driving and floor the accelerator and go like 120mph or whatever my car's top speed was. I wanted to die just not painfully and im only alive because I felt guilty about my friends having to deal with that shit and nobody deserved that. I kept trying to make it look like an accident where I partied too hard so they didnt have to get hurt. Something that would fit into my fake "Anon is that crazy mother fucker who spins loaded guns around yolo lifestyle. We knew it would happen someday." etc.
>>6105120
It doesnt. I was barely able to keep it hidden. The more you suppress it, the worse it gets until youre basically an endorphin heroin junkie either cutting the shit out of yourself or kicking in doors as spec ops trying to use the adrenaline to numb out your mind hoping someone or something kills you. I even remember when I was like 16 and I kept forcing myself to have sex with girls like thousands of times so I could like fuck the gay out of me or something. Then afterwards this huge fucking wave of dysphoria would hit me and Id excuse myself and Id cut the shit out of myself in the shower and just sit in there sobbing trying to wash that shit off me. It was horrible. I hate talking about it.
>>6105268
I was saying that it doesn't work. But the more you linger on a topic (and actively ignoring is paying attention to it) the bigger it becomes. There is an unhealthy but healthier way that is dedicating yourself to something you really care, eventually people with healthy sex lives have to do exactly that or they become huge pieces of shit. It's MUCH easier if you deal with the issues you are aware of before, but if your living conditions make it impposible you can be aware without repression. I live in a country where transitioning is 99% impposible, I'm aware that I'm trans and let it out in the amount that makes me a bit more comfortable without hurting my chances of having a fullfilling life. There is more to life than accepting yourself, people making their entire life about that have other issues besides secuality/gender.
>>6105302
I would just make your life about leaving that shithole of a country.
>>6104593
>>6105063
>tfw there are so many trannies on this board that will never know what it's like to get dicked by their childhood best friend as little HSTS and AGP girls
>tfw they will live their lives seeing the trannies born just 10 years later get what they never had
>tfw life shouldn't be this sad
>>6095471
I thought every tranny was AGP but not all AGP were trannies or something like that.
>>6105647
I like other things from it and I know more than enough expats with similar issues. In the exchange between how feminine I can be and how fulfilled the rest of my life is I'm okay with this. Not jumping on one feet happy, but good enough.
>>6098104
I have sexual arousal at the thought of being a girl since I was 5
>>6105743
>tfw you will never live in the esper mansion
>>6105254
You sound like a depressed man not a woman
>>6105856
What does that have to do with anything?
