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Hey I made a post here >>5973869 that I think you guys could help me with. Any advice is greatly appreciated.
I'm so anxious, it's making me feel sick. My ("100% heterosexual") ex called me up the other day. We hadn't seen each other since I started transitioning. He was having a complete mental breakdown and I was seriously worried that he was going to hurt himself. I rushed over to see him (in the apartment we used to share) and he was in pretty bad shape. I did everything I could to try to calm him down and snap him out of it, which ended up including holding him to physically restrain him from hurting himself. He's an alcoholic and he has guns. He has no real support system, no supportive family. I felt like I HAD to be there for him no matter what my own feelings were.
Well, he eventually snapped out of it, and me comforting him turned into us making out, which turned into him trying to get my clothes off and fuck me even though I told him no several times. And--I fucking hate myself for doing this, I have no self-respect--I finally just gave him a blowjob because I felt obligated to and so he wouldn't keep trying to get me naked. I didn't know what to do then and I don't know what to do now. I think he thinks we're back in a relationship and he seems to be in complete denial of the whole FtM thing. I don't know what the fuck to do. If I "abandon him" again, I'm so, so scared that I'm going to be directly responsible for his suicide, and I don't think I could live with that.
But I can't do this. I can't pretend I never came out, pretend I haven't been on T, not get top surgery (my consultation is just over a month away...I've wanted this for 15 fucking years), and go back and try to be his wife. There was a reason we broke up. There was a reason I came out and started transitioning. It was that or kill myself.
He's made it clear to me that he doesn't understand what being trans even means and that he'll always regard me as female. He basically said that he's OK with me as long as I have a vagina. I want to die. I don't know how to get out of this.
>>5975029
you need to jettison him, people like that will never see the true you, just the you they want to see
the best you can do is point him in the direction of local services to help alcoholics. sounds harsh but at the end of the day however he chooses to deal with his problems is his decision not yours
source: i have experience with similar problems
>>5975064
Yeah, he needs professional help that I can't give him, but, knowing him, I won't be able to get him to accept it. Sorry for dumping this here, I know what I "should do," but it seems like it's come down to a horrible choice:
a) give up my whole life and try to be "what he needs" (pathetic, I know, but consider also that he is my best and only friend and I've spent almost a third of my life with him), or
b) leave him to fend for himself, which I don't think he will.
People can say "you aren't responsible for other people's actions" as much as they want, but at the end of the day, if he kills himself over this shit, I'll know that I could have stopped it and I didn't. This dilemma has long been making me want to kill MYSELF because it sometimes seems like the only way of completely getting out of the situation.
>>5974745
Fuck off lmao
>>5975079
>I'll know that I could have stopped it and I didn't.
At the cost of your own life. Your life for that of someone who doesn't respect you, and who doesn't even pretend to intend to change that.
It's not your fault he won't stop veering toward the abyss and counting on someone else to hold him back. How incredibly selfish of him. You need to cultivate your self-esteem.
>>5975079
Try to get him interned (without consent) in a psych ward. If that's possible in your juridiction. (If you feel he's actually at risk to self-harm, that may be the best thing to do)
>>5975461
I like cookies
My appointment to begin T is next week. I'm both excited as fuck but nervous. I can't believe this is finely here. It seemed like nothing but a pipe dream half a year ago.
>>5975662
when you grow a sexy beard can i touch it anon?
:3
Can you guys do this little questionnaire for me, please? I'd love as much input as possible. And please don't be offended by any of the questions. I'm ftm and just curious about your guys' thoughts.
>How old did you start hormones (or when will you)?
>Has your health changed since being on hormones?
>Are you worried that being on hormones could cause health issues?
>At any point, have you thought it's best to continue living as a girl, because transitioning seemed "crazy"? Or that you wanted to avoid social issues?
>What is your biggest concern with transitioning?
>Do you ever worry that when you transition, you might regret it, or dislike how you've turned out?
>Does anyone tell you they miss the "old you", or that they liked you better as a girl?
>Does it bother you if your close friends or family don't call you by your correct name and pronouns?
>Do you ever feel like you're just "crazy" or something is wrong with you for being transgender?
>Do you feel like you're "trapped in the wrong body", or is there a different way to describe the drive to live as a man?
>Have you tried other methods to "cure" your dysphoria before transitioning?
>Did you ever try to convince yourself you're not transgender? For instance, telling yourself you're just a tomboy.
>Have you sacrificed relationships, work, or other very important things in order to transition?
>Do miss anything about living as a girl?
>>5975413
Can you do that to people you are not related too or have no legal connection? Believe it or not, its really fucking hard to rip away an adult's rights. Its hard enough to do with a relative and I couldn't do that with my mom last year because she doesn't have a new psych or doctor(we'd usually call them and they would give the 'go ahead') and we couldn't get her emitted because she wouldn't admit to the cops she was suicidal or threaten violence against someone else. It's also illegal to record conversations or phonecalls here without consent so.. Whew lad. What a ride.
If he can get him to admit it to someone who actually matters(like a cop) then yeah. Chances are he'd just be thrown in the ER for 48 hours or so for 'evaluation' and let go once he calms down.
>>5975200
>>5975413
>>5975461
Thank you...I sent him an email laying it all out and now he's calling me and I'm being a Bad Person and not picking up. I'm worried if he calls me again crying and sounding like he's "unsafe," I'll cave and go back on everything I've said yet again, though.
He hasn't said anything explicitly like "I'm going to kill myself," and I know that if he does, I can call the cops, but I reeeally don't want things to come to that. I'm pretty sure that, if cops came to his door, he'd freak the fuck out, and he has guns.
It's pathetic how I keep trying to convince myself that this is all my fault and that he hasn't done anything wrong. That's how my family is, though. Seems like we all either end up with abusers or we end up becoming the abusers, or both. I have no desire to ever be in another relationship.
It's a meme that living life as a girl is easy mode compared to as a guy.
Are any of you aware of any "privileges" you had? Do you think life is harder as a guy?
>>5976768
I find that life is exactly the same as both genders in the terms of how people treat you, but then again I was never a pretty and attractive girl.
>>5976768
I could get away with pretending I was just stupid if I didn't feel like doing something instead of getting my shit pushed in and got less chewed out for being an actual idiot because 'teehee girl' and I was slightly less likely to get my ass whooped for my shit but thats about it. I feel like the rest of life got easier.
>"she is such a stupid bitch." + comments about what i am wearing or whatever catty gossip bullshit
>"oh, anon? yeah. he's like that." the end.
Feels good.
>>5976768
That's a complex question, and I hate the tendency to treat privilege and oppression like a zero-sum game. Rigid gender roles fuck everybody's shit up.
What has changed, though, is I get ribbed more for behavior perceived as feminine. I just banter back, I don't give a shit.
Another thing is that men see me as an equal. I used to have to babysit fragile egos. My work is mostly freelance and often in somewhat impromptu teams. Happened regularly that some asshole would assume I was incompetent, and when I showed him up (it's never the guys with real skill, because skilled guys know they have a place) this type of dude would sulk like a kid, and a couple times this dude essentially sabotaged the project out of pure immaturity. After I changed my name it's been smooth sailing. Less experienced guys will just take the damn advice, and if there's a problem we can resolve it like adults. Feels good.
>>5977066
this. it's exactly the same, i just get fewer people holding doors open for me. otherwise exactly the same, but i also was not very pretty as a girl and dressed in ratty band t-shirts and hoodies 24/7
>>5975922
I'll bite, you're lucky I'm bored. Part 1 because this is a lot of questions
>How old did you start hormones (or when will you)?
I was 28.
>Has your health changed since being on hormones?
Nope.
>Are you worried that being on hormones could cause health issues?
Nah.
>At any point, have you thought it's best to continue living as a girl, because transitioning seemed "crazy"? Or that you wanted to avoid social issues?
No. I mean I was worried about social stuff and coming out and etc, but none of those worries were big enough to get me to consider not transitioning.
>What is your biggest concern with transitioning?
I'm post-transition. Pre-transition my biggest concern was that I would never pass or feel like a man.
>Do you ever worry that when you transition, you might regret it, or dislike how you've turned out?
I'm post-transition and I don't regret it at all. It seems crazy to me that I was ever a girl. Like I legit can't believe it's real and it happened. I would literally rather die than go back. Did I worry about these things post-transition? Yes, I don't think very many trans people DON'T worry about this stuff. I wasn't worried about not liking my body though, I always knew 100% that I would never regret changing my body. I was more worried about regretting the social changes.
>Does anyone tell you they miss the "old you", or that they liked you better as a girl?
No. I had a couple people tell me, when I came out to them, that they WOULD miss the "old me"... but no one has said that since then.
>Does it bother you if your close friends or family don't call you by your correct name and pronouns?
Very much. It's been years since I started transitioning and every once in awhile my family still slips up. It's infuriating. I have a fucking beard and mustache for fuck's sake. Please stop calling me "she" in front of PEOPLE WHO THINK I'M CIS REEEEEEEEEEEE
continued...
>>5977853
Part 2...
>Do you ever feel like you're just "crazy" or something is wrong with you for being transgender?
I used to, before I figured out that trans men existed. I had no explanation for my dysphoria and thought I was just broken or mentally fucked-up for some unknown reason.
>Do you feel like you're "trapped in the wrong body", or is there a different way to describe the drive to live as a man?
I don't really like this analogy. I do feel like my body is mine... it just felt/feels like certain parts of it are out-of-place, you know? There are lots of aspects of my body that I feel are definitely "me": my stature, my facial features, the general proportions of my body. It's just the feminine stuff about it that felt/feels wrong.
>Have you tried other methods to "cure" your dysphoria before transitioning?
Does ignoring it count? I tried to ignore the dysphoria as best I could and hope it would go away on its own. It wasn't until after about a decade of this that I realized it wasn't working and was never going to work, heh. I also tried to, like, "body positivity" myself out of dysphoria. I would find photos of women with bodies like mine that I thought looked good and sit there staring at them, trying to convince myself that because they were attractive that I also was fine the way I was. Or I would try to convince myself that it was fine to just be an androgynous/unfeminine woman, that I could be happy just presenting as masculine as I could, that tough amazonian-type women were super cool and I would be fine just doing that, etc etc. Didn't work, obviously. None of this was done as a means of trying to make transition unnecessary, though. This was all before I figured out what being trans was.
>>5977860
Last part
>Did you ever try to convince yourself you're not transgender? For instance, telling yourself you're just a tomboy.
During the questioning period, yes. I wasn't actively trying to talk myself out of being trans, it was more like I was trying really hard to find reasons why I WASN'T trans, or why I was clearly just fucked in the head and needed a therapist who could "fix" me.
>Have you sacrificed relationships, work, or other very important things in order to transition?
Nope. Didn't lose any relationships, career is great, live in a great place, etc.
>Do miss anything about living as a girl?
Absolutely nothing.
>>5975922
>>How old did you start hormones (or when will you)?
Started at 25, 27 now
>>Has your health changed since being on hormones?
no
>>Are you worried that being on hormones could cause health issues?
A little bit scared of uterine cancer but not really
>>At any point, have you thought it's best to continue living as a girl, because transitioning seemed "crazy"? Or that you wanted to avoid social issues?
no
>>What is your biggest concern with transitioning?
passing
>>Do you ever worry that when you transition, you might regret it, or dislike how you've turned out?
Used to worry about regrets a lot, but it's been 3 years and 1 surgery and no regrets so far so I guess that's not going to happen after all.
>>Does anyone tell you they miss the "old you", or that they liked you better as a girl?
no, I'm much happier, more active and closer to my family so I doubt they would ever miss the old me
>>Does it bother you if your close friends or family don't call you by your correct name and pronouns?
yes
>>Do you ever feel like you're just "crazy" or something is wrong with you for being transgender?
Something is wrong with me, a brain abnormality, but that doesn't make me delusional or make transition wrong.
>>Do you feel like you're "trapped in the wrong body", or is there a different way to describe the drive to live as a man?
I feel like my body is fucked up and I needed testosterone to fix it, but some things can never be fixed and I have to live with that.
>>Have you tried other methods to "cure" your dysphoria before transitioning?
no
>>Did you ever try to convince yourself you're not transgender? For instance, telling yourself you're just a tomboy.
not really, I was in denial for a while but wasn't actively trying to convince myself
>>Have you sacrificed relationships, work, or other very important things in order to transition?
no
>>Do miss anything about living as a girl?
I miss getting attention for nothing, that's absolutely the only thing.
>>5977066
>>5976768
This, "female privilege" is actually "pretty privilege". Only girls who look a certain way are treated different. Fat, ugly, dumpy, and masculine females are not treated special.
I never wore makeup, did anything with my hair, or wore girls clothing so I wasn't treated like them.
That said, I think that between a male and female of equal attractiveness for their gender, women do have it easier.
>>5977595
that's somehow relieving
>>5977595
>so many gay or bi qts
>tfw none of them like piv
what do you guys even do when you get in relationships?
>>5978287
I bend him over and fuck him? Not that hard
>>5977595
I was mad at this first but I had forgotten where I am. Yaoi just goes in hand in hand with you weebs.
If western gay porn counts then well fuck me too then.
>>5976768
idk... people treat me the same regardless of what they think i am... which is usually them being nice and whatnot in spite of me not being good at being a functional adult... or like creepy hitting on me and offering to buy me shit
>>5977753
>>5978144
i don't think clothes or make up or any of that actually matters... i went through an overcompensating feminine phase for like a year or so, and i've spent the rest of my life in jeans and t-shirts and whatnot, no make up etc etc etc and the only difference that really stood out is that women like me usually and they didn't then... like chicks really fucking hated me then, whereas normally they like me and are pleasant... shit was weird, but other than that i've never noticed anything regardless of whether or not someone is calling me "he" or "she"
>>5978287
i'm bi and fine with it... that shit varies
>>5978309
i'm not a yaoi fan, but why do you care about what other people like enough to have any kind of emotion towards it?
>>5978376
Because this is the internet and people should stop liking what I don't like.
>>5978414
must suck being the kinda person who cares about shit like that...
>>5977595
Is yaoi like a gateway drug for ftm? It's too perfect, literally intended for women to relate to, but visually gay. Although, this shit is filled with unequal relationship dynamics and unrealistic stereotypes. I guess some ftm's probably relate to them because they are feminine in those aspects? Like, adorably cute petite teenage Ingenue Woobie Love Martyr Sex Slave with an emotionally closeted Bastard Boyfriend.
Why don't you ftms just start lifting before hormones to get a nice body?
>>5979288
She's definitely on steroids, aka hormones.
A natural female body isn't going to get that ripped.
Kinda off-topic I know but I just found out about the Fallon Fox situation and how she brutalized her opponent and is it really true being male is in itself that big of an advantage? Like, any buff af transmen here who can beat any dude in a sweaty fight?
At first I thought Fox just outmatched her opponent and she should have trained more but if her body really does give her an unfair advantage.. Well basically I wanna know if this is the news twisting it more negatively or if I should feel even more ashamed now for being mtf
>>5978144
Imagine my surprise when I was told cat-calling is a real thing that happens. This was in a conversation between me and an actual girl about experiencing sexism. I never have so I didn't think it really happened but she told me otherwise so fuck if I know anymore.
>>5978356
I have a friend who apparently doesn't get on with other girls because she sees them as a threat. Doesn't like girls prettier/skinnier than her usually. We get on fine. Was unsure if I should be offended by that until I realised that neither of us count me practically as a girl.
>>5979361
Oh and I should say: I'm not trying to invade this space, really sorry if it seems that way. I know I'm not supposed to post here but I'm freaking out
>>5979385
Relax, this isn't a 'safe space', it's 4chan and we don't care. There are cis people and MTFs that hang around, it's fine as long as they don't cause trouble.
>>5975922
>little questionaire
>giant paragraph of cliche questions
That's not how words work anon.
>>5976768
I was a pretty princess and life was pretty easy as a girl for me. I transitioned before I started working so most of the privilege I experienced was mostly superfluous, but now I am kind of suffering because I don't have anykind of social skills because I'm still used to being a pretty girl where people would just approach me and be my friend.
>>5979361
I don't know what your asking but yes Fallon Fox should be fighting with the females she's been on hrt for required amount of time in sports, which is usually 2 or 3 years, although I don't know of the situation you're talking about. She does wrestling or whatever, people get brutalized on whether it's her or her opponents, if they're fighting they need to realize they're going to get fucked up sometimes. If they're not okay with that then they should leave wrestling and get themselves a real job.
>>5979365
a lot of the time chicks tend to view me as a guy (or at least like i "may as well be" and they'll say as much) without me ever even saying anything and that's just always been the case... but during that time they just saw me as a chick, and it was really bizarre... they'd give me dirty looks, say rude shit, not really talk to me etc etc etc and right after i gave that shit up (it made my dysphoria way worse) everything went back to normal and chicks got flirty again...
catcalling def happens yeah... i always just assumed it happened to everyone though desu cuz i've had it happen to me since i was like 12... it's whatever though, idk some people take it too far but usually it's no big deal... when it becomes that + physical contact (grabbing and groping and whatnot) then it's different, but that part of it isn't super common in my experience...
>>5979433
this
i've playfighted with mtf friends and can confirm they're weak as shit, if not weaker than cis women usually are. hell, cis women have far more testosterone in their system than an mtf on hrt does
you also get cis female athletes of large, naturally strong stature and they'll be higher t than she is so eh
>>5979433
"During Fox's fight against Tamikka Brents, Brents suffered a concussion, an orbital bone fracture, and seven staples to the head. After her loss, Brents took to social media to fuel the controversy surrounding Fox's perceived advantage: "I've fought a lot of women and have never felt the strength that I felt in a fight as I did that night. I can’t answer whether it’s because she was born a man or not because I’m not a doctor. I can only say, I’ve never felt so overpowered ever in my life and I am an abnormally strong female in my own right,” she stated. "Her grip was different, I could usually move around in the clinch against other females but couldn’t move at all in Fox’s clinch…""
I don't know if she was just mad she lost and trying to get her kicked out or if she has a point
>>5975922
>little questionnaire
>>5979323
mine is fatty
>>5979288
would if i could, but health issues prevent that shit... i used to work out every day, but now there's huge spans of time where i just can't physically manage it and every time i start again it's like starting from the beginning which sucks + even my good days come with some level of pain and health issues so that's always a problem... my new feeling 100% is what i used to consider feeling like shit, so it's just a bitch to do anything like that often...
>>5979447
>>5979361
Kekerino that paragraph is so ridiculously salty. Talk about poor losers. The real kicker is that a shit ton of female fighters roid anyway, at least we know with Fallon getting bloodwork done constantly and taking estrogen + blockers that she isn't.
>insert misogynist statement about how women lie and make up stories in the face of adversity instead of gitting gud
>>5979361
Well, when it comes to fighting women, yes. Although it's debatable whether or not she's at that much of an advantage because of things like her HRT affecting muscle mass, bone density, etc.
I don't know why such a big deal was made out of her beating her opponent in the first place though; it's like female fighters have never said they could take on male fighters (and win) before. Probably just salty.
>>5979447
Well Brents knew who she agreed to fight. What's Fox supposed to do, throw fights to prove that she's dainty enough? The medical evidence is on Fox's side, and her figure isn't even so tall and hulking that it readily lends itself to anti-trans arguments. The signs point to knee-jerk transphobia.
Speaking of, I think on r/ftm I read a while back about a guy who lived and trained and fought stealth in whatever SE Asian country it was. He posted a picture from a fight, and talked about how he dealt with getting kicked in the balls.
>>5975029
I know a similar feel, anon. I also know that on-again-off-again shit never ends well, even if as with many of us there's probably some part of you that says "What if nobody else would be with me?"
Get your friend some mental health resources (geared towards depression or suicide risk) then distance yourself for a while. Cut them off if you must. There is a chance that he is emotionally manipulating you with threats of suicide, especially if he has symptoms of BPD. Your mental health comes first, and nobody's gonna give you a medal for being a nice guy and sticking it out for net negative benefit.
>>5979163
Yaoi is cliche bullshit with terrible male anatomy and pleb-tier shoujo level plots. only shonen-ai and the occasional bara are worth reading.
>>5979542
+1 agree, and adding: even if he isn't doing it to manipulate you, you should never put yourself in a position you're uncomfortable with, sexual or otherwise, for someone else's benefit. If he doesn't want to be with a guy and wants a waifu, then make it clear he's looking in the wrong place. You need someone who respects your shit for who you are, not because you're a vagina to stuff his dick in
Your own well-being should always be priority
>>5978287
Some of us are tops you know.
>inb4 "but cis men are too big to dominate"
Twinks and manlets, friend. Twinks and manlets.
So I have genuine dysphoria. If I could wake up as a male, I'd definitely go for it. But when I think of starting T, the thought of my body changing freaks me the fuck out. Not the masculine part, but the actual change. Is this some weird control issue?? Former anorexic & severe ptsd is probably relevant.
>>5980477
>the thought of my body changing freaks me the fuck out
what do you mean your bodies changing right now
Question.
I'm pre-T but should be starting within the next few months if it all goes well.
Is there any way to increase clit growth permanently that isn't DHT?
Is there any way to get permanently clit growth before I start T?
DHT isn't available in my country, and I've heard clit pumping effects are only temporary- I have a tiny as fuck clit but I'm really hoping for some growth down there when I start T as I'm not keen on bottom surgery.
I've ordered a cheap clit pump to see if it does anything- temporary or permanent. Any advice would be good.
I've been on T for a couple months now and EVERYTHING TURNS ME ON
HELP
>>5980607
If you run out of porn boards you can always shag the carpet :^)
>>5979447
Salty as fuck and should just accept her lost. Fox lost to Ashlee Evans Smith so put Brents and her in the ring and see if she says the same shit.
>>5980742
At this rate it may very well come to that.
Save my soul and my wooly, wooly palms, senpai.
>>5981470
You could always resort to chasers
>>5980600
People were talking about this in the last thread I think. Some people say that if you pump regularly and consistently you can get some permanent growth but it's not a guarantee.
My dick is getting desensitized af because my foreskin no longer covers the tip. It seems like foreskin restoration tips won't work because it's still too tiny to work well with. Any suggestions?
>>5979742
I really want to top more often but circumstances keep aligning against me and I feel like shit is a problem far more often than it should be.
That and I often feel sad that I can't feel my packer, hot as getting to fuck someone is
>>5979288
Mmmm I'd climb that like a tree
oh god I have to come out to my 91-year-old grandma and I have no fucking clue how she's going to react
we talk every week on the phone and I don't think she's noticed my voice changing. at least she hasn't commented on it. today, she heard my voice and was like "whoa, you've got a horrible cold!" I can't even fake a higher voice anymore, and she's going to see me in person eventually and fuuuckkkk I didn't want to have this conversation, ever, which is why I've been putting it off and not saying anything
she's really liberal and doesn't seem to have a problem with gay people, but her daughter flipped her shit about me starting HRT and now refuses to acknowledge my existence (love you too, mom) so I don't know how this is going to go down
NANA PLS DONT HATE ME
>>5983177
Good luck. My 103 aunt just hit on me.
>>5983247
yikes.
Damn guys I'm lusting hard for a dude at my new job. It's becoming distracting. He sits at the desk behind me but I don't think he even realizes I exist. Tall, skinny, blonde, bitchy, wears glasses. Wears the most amazing cologne. Fuuuuuck. He's also at least 40... it's been a really really long time since I've been so into an older man, usually I go for younger guys. I think the last time was when I had the hots for my literature professor freshman year of college.
Idk I guess this post isn't really relevant to anything but I'm hurting here and need to tell someone about it. I'm actively working on figuring out if he's gay. I know he's not married, I've seen no evidence of a significant other, and the industry is FULL of gay guys so I have my fingers crossed.
>>5982655
cover peen in candle wax
>>5983690
I meant for modifying foreskin restoration techniques not traumatizing my wiener with hot wax ya numbnuts
hi hello do any of you mind if an mtf hangs around
im kinda curious how things are for y'all and maybe id be a regular and teach you MANLY DUDE THINGS or something if y'all arent as cancerous as mtfg
>>5983917
try MTFG, they actually have foreskin
>underweight
>any fat gained just accumulates on my already titanic tiddies
>remain a skeleton elsewhere
fucking hell
>>5985318
For me, it goes straight to my hips and butt. Huge hourglass figure. ;_; I'm sorry brother
>>5985348
>which looks fucking weird because I have chicken legs and very narrow slim hips.
lol, passerby cis male here, I'm the same. It can happen here too. I was kind of a fat kid years ago and that combined with a slim hip did the same when I went slim.
>>5984938
You know the clitoral hood is analogous to foreskin right?
In my first post I said that my penis is too small to use cis techniques but too big to be covered by the foreskin/clitoral hood. Using logical deduction you might gather that ftmg is the best place to discuss ftm genitals
>>5986032
not them, but it's illogical to think using the words "penis" and "foreskin" are gonna bring anything to mind other than a dick and foreskin... not everyone is gonna read your shit like it's a word problem, so using the wrong words is gonna create confusion...
>>5986137
I can see how that could be confusing now. I assumed that mentioning it had only recently grown and was still tiny would be clear enough, didn't realize there were that many cis guys in ftmg.
Anyways with that cleared up, has anybody else come up with a way to prevent chafing after t makes their dick bigger? Either figuring out how to lengthen their foreskin/hood or some other trick
>>5986420
Wear boxers and loose clothes
>>5986137
Considering this is ftmgen I got what he meant right away.
>>5986728
that's cool... but i wasn't sure and someone else took it the wrong way... this general is pretty varied not like it's strictly transguys here, and well... personally when i see the word "dick" or "penis" i think something specific, and it sure as shit isn't that...
i get that using words like that helps some transguys feel more comfortable, but i mean... it's gotta be obvious that shit can get confusing...
>>5986420
honestly i didn't read your whole original post i just saw the dick and foreskin thing and just was like "that seems out of place" and moved on
i only said anything cuz i thought what you said to the confused anon was kinda rude considering you could've been clearer...
and like someone else said... loose clothes
>>5986032
>>5986420
>You know the clitoral hood is analogous to foreskin right?
Ugh, of course. I'm FTM too. I just thought since you were talking about your tiny foreskin you were a cis dude (and yeah, there are at least a few that hang around). It just helps to be a bit clearer and more specific when addressing others.
But now that we've cleared that up, personally I've never had to deal with any sort of uncomfortable chafing despite the growth. If you've just started HRT recently it might be temporary, because of the growth and/or stimulation. Maybe try softer underwear and moisturising.
>>5981611
what chasers?
>>5987494
If you keep bumping the thread they'll come.
>>5975922
Pt1:
>>How old did you start hormones (or when will you)?
28, this past October.’
>Has your health changed since being on hormones?
Not that I've noticed, although I suspect my circulation is a little better because I get icy feet less.
>At any point, have you thought it's best to continue living as a girl, because transitioning seemed "crazy"? Or that you wanted to avoid social issues?
Sorta? I didn't expect anyone to take me seriously, for the most part.
>What is your biggest concern with transitioning?
I spent five years trying to see if I could survive just being butch, for the reason above and:
>Do you ever worry that when you transition, you might regret it, or dislike how you've turned out?
-because of this. Mostly though it was because I was terrified that I was just using it as an excuse for all the things that have gone wrong in my life, or a convenient thing to blame for the raging depression I had at the time. It's a lot better now.
Still worried about hair loss, but ready to deal with it if it comes.
>Does anyone tell you they miss the "old yo
>>5975922
>>5987575
Pt 2:
>Does anyone tell you they miss the "old you", or that they liked you better as a girl?
Hasn't come up yet, no.
-
>Do you ever feel like you're just "crazy" or something is wrong with you for being transgender?
Not since I started transitioning, although I did plenty before.
>Does it bother you if your close friends or family don't call you by your correct name and pronouns?
Yeah, but I get that they're still adjusting. I try not to take it personal. No one's intentionally deadnamed me.
>Do you feel like you're "trapped in the wrong body", or is there a different way to describe the drive to live as a man?
Less trapped, more like I had no agency or control over my own flesh. More like.. a gross stasis? It looked wrong and I wanted to fix it. I didn't feel honest being feminine or rather, being expected to be feminine in social situations.
>Have you tried other methods to "cure" your dysphoria before transitioning?
>Did you ever try to convince yourself you're not transgender? For instance, telling yourself you're just a tomboy.
See: five years of baby-step butch, which is weird when you're not a lesbian. The prospect of relying on medication the rest of my life was kind of scary as hell.
>Have you sacrificed relationships, work, or other very important things in order to transition?
Haven't had to. I've been very lucky.
>Do miss anything about living as a girl?
...weirdly, clothes? Women's fashion has a lot more shit going on for it than men's fashion, and dresses are surprisingly lazy in some contexts. I may even go a little effeminate when I stop reading as a bulldyke and have real facial hair. Is femme bara a thing, because, goals.
>>5982655
I have the same problem, familia. No idea what to do. I wear super soft undies and that helps a bit. Or rather, they don't make it worse. If you figure something out then tell me, anon.
>>5976768
I get to hold open doors now and no one is weird about it.
>>5978144
Kinda this, my sister got a lot more grief than I did about some things because yeah, she was a pretty girl. Spaces I was comfortable in were unsafe for her, because I fell under the radar.
It's been eye-opening some of the shit my friends have gone through that were never something I noticed or experienced.
[spoiler] still didn't stop me from getting date raped though lol [/spoiler]
I don't know that I agree it's easier to be a woman than a man, women have to deal with Some Shit™.
>>5977860
>I also tried to, like, "body positivity" myself out of dysphoria.
Oh fuck, me too.
Instead I just have a thing for chubby girls now.
>dat squish
So fucking adorable and soft, jesus...
>>5987647
i don't necessarily give a shit about someone's weight if their face is cute, but i only specifically like chubby asian girls...
>>5987494
chasers exist... i've met some..,
Do you consider heteroflexible men legitimate partners?
>>5988787
Probably about as much as any other gay guy would. I might consider a guy like that if I had known him for awhile as a friend beforehand. I would not consider any random heteroflexible guy I met on tinder or whatever. It probably wouldn't work out anyway, I'm guessing most guys like that would want to fuck me/do stuff with my genitals and I don't play that.
I've never really been to the doctor, except for very minor things (compared to transition) and certainly never had a regular prescription. This is my first vial of testosterone and the prescription said no refills so how do I get more when I run out? I don't have a regular doctor, so I sought out a specialist and used informed consent. The specialist gave me a really uneasy feeling so I don't want to see him again, if possible.
Also it's testosterone cyponiate that I use and I've got a fear of needles so I keep accidentally dulling them by hesitantly poking at my thigh, which has resulted in wasting like 5 needles. I started with 23G 1in and changed to 25G 1in, and when I went to buy needles at my pharmacy, they only had 25G 5/8in in stock. I told the pharmacist I do intramuscular injections and she assured me that since I'm pretty thin, that needle is fine, but I thought 5/8in was for subq. I went ahead with the injection using that size and feel fine, so is it really okay or will the shallow injection affect my absorption rate?
>>5988787
As I am, no. But if I'd have been on T for a while and was 100% passing all the time then yeah, maybe.
>>5977595
Honestly seeing all the guys that have read/watched yaoi or shounen ai is super relieving. I used to think I was just some straight girl taking a fetish too far.
>>5988787
>heteroflexible
You're almost as bad as the pansexuals. Just call yourself bi already you fucking faggot
>>5990270
>Be a girl
>Have a vagina
Just call yourself a woman already, you fucking faggot
>>5989662
Testosterone is a controlled substance, which means you can't get refills on T prescriptions. When you run out, you need a doctor to write you a new prescription. For me I just call up my doctor and she sends a new prescription to my pharmacy; I don't have to see her or set up an appointment for it and you shouldn't have to either.
Also, another weird thing about controlled substances is you're only allowed to get T when you need it: so if your vial runs out early because, say, you messed up too many shots, you won't be allowed to get more from the same pharmacy until the vial you have is "scheduled" to run out.
About the needles: you're fine. There's no difference between the efficacy of intramuscular vs subcutaneous injections.
>>5990159
>I used to think I was just some straight girl taking a fetish too far.
you are. yaoi is made by girls for girls
>>5989662
>Also it's testosterone cyponiate that I use and I've got a fear of needles so I keep accidentally dulling them by hesitantly poking at my thigh, which has resulted in wasting like 5 needles. I started with 23G 1in and changed
I know because I'm a baby when it comes to self injecting but if you take an advil an hour before a shot it works, also if you touch the area around the injection site while you're injecting it helps (to clarify don't touch the site you're injecting or the needle, but make a C with one hand right around where you inject and then do it, it won't hurt as much.
Don't worry about your prescription, you might have to go back to the clinic after 6 months or so to get it refilled/ a blood test but it should be awhile (like 6 months to a year) before they make you do that.
>run out of progesterone contraceptive
>my second appointment (aka if all goes well here is ur moans) is in like two weeks and i'll likely get an anti-oestrogen shot
>think ill be fine for two weeks and wont menstruate
guess what ftmg i am a moron and want to die
>>5988787
They have the same flight risk as bi men, they'll fuck you but never commit. So nah.
I'm a fan of keeping the complexity of life to my hobbies and intellectual activities. Home, and thus the person I come home to, should be simple, peaceful, and restful. No drama and as little stress as possible. No shrill harridans nitpicking me over petty shit, no trying to change me, and most of all, no need to speculate that they're gonna slut around or otherwise backstab me the second I stop paying undivided attention.
>>5990617
If you're not feeling comfortable doing your own shots, especially at first, you could try to find a clinic that would do your injects and/or teach you to self-inject. It's hit or miss depending on where you live, but walk-in and sexual health clinics do that sort of stuff pretty regularly.
I'd also recommend trying to source out another means of getting your prescription ASAP, if you don't want to go back to that specialist. It's better to figure things out when you have a full vial than to wait until you're a week late for your shot and ready to throw yourself off a bridge.
>>5990576
Oh, I understand better now, thank you so much! I have used about 2/3 of the vial, have 3 syringes filled for the rest of the month, and have done ten injections so far, so I'm guessing I'll be out sometime in May or June?
>>5990617
It's not so much the pain of injection but the act of stabbing myself in the leg and the (painless) sensation of an object being shoved under my skin that I have a problem with. I was instructed to grab a handful of flesh (fat and muscle) and inject...I'll try the other method next time!
I'm hoping I don't need a blood test before my next refill. I don't really care what the levels are inside, as being trans I've accepted that one is limited by what they can change internally, so I'm more focused on whether I feel good and look happy on the outside.
>>5991132
I've been researching if I can go to clinics for injections (places like Walgreen's, CVS, Planned Parenthood, Concentra, etc) and so far everyone has said no to assisting me. I am aware that there's a trans alliance place in my area but when I set up an appointment there (before finding a specialist on a list of doctors who prescribe through informed consent) the trans alliance person stood me up so I was upset by the lack of professionalism cause I had to drive nearly an hour to get there. I'm definitely trying to explore my options and get a doctor I'm actually comfortable with but this area is terrible and I hit a lot of dead ends.
>>5991095
If you bleed make sure to sacrifice it to Odin for extra masc gainz
>>5991230
Wow, that really sucks. You could give the trans alliance place another try, but that's a dick move on their part and I could see why you'd feel hopeless about that avenue. I hope you manage to figure something out. Personally, being unable to self-inject even after 5+ years, I've switched to Androgel, but that's priced out of most people's range and wouldn'tsolve your issue with not having a secure practitioner to write your prescriptions.
>>5991467
Yeah I kind of laugh at how easy I made it look when demonstrating for a nurse that I was competent enough to self-inject. I've never injected that smoothly since, especially after hitting a vein twice. I wanted to start with gel but I can't afford it, though I'm hoping someday I can just do testopel. Have to get a second job and save up the money.
>>5991095
Do a demon summoning with your menstal blood for extra street cred
>>5990291
Haha, good one, you totally got me there
Why do you need to defend such a stupid fucking label? There's no difference between bisexual and heteroflexible
>>5991099
>being a tranny
>being picky about bi guys who wanna fug
pick one
I've never been "fit" in my life. Before I started T last year, I'd spent most of my life being an anorexic, usually extremely underweight, couch potato. I didn't exercise because my health was so shitty and I always felt awful and had no energy, so I had practically no muscle.
I gained a lot of weight since then, and a ton of it is fat, most of it on my thighs and ass. I know I was literally dying before and that I'm at a "healthy weight" now, but my body composition now constantly makes me want to kill myself. I'd be passing if I lost like 20 lbs. of fat...and I'm trying so fucking hard, but I'm not seeing results.
So I'm on T now. I walk a lot (average is around 5 miles a day) because I don't have a car, and I spend a ton of my free time working out with free weights and some other exercise equipment in my apartment. I've built a lot of muscle, which I'm happy about, but I don't seem to be losing any fat whatsoever, which is very discouraging. I still have the same "female fat deposits." The worst area is the backs of my thighs under my ass. I know it's "lazy," but I'd get liposuction in a second if I had the money because my problem is mostly one fucking area.
I'm so hungry all of the time that I can't seem to make myself eat less than right around what my TDEE should be, but I'm not eating way more or anything. I thought if I kept eating the same amount and started exercising a lot more, plus with being on T, I'd start gaining muscle and burning fat. Instead, I'm just gaining muscle and losing minimal or no fat. I'm getting pretty desperate here. Some of those crazy fat burners/bodybuilding "supplements" are looking more and more appealing. I can't stand looking and feeling like this and I don't know what I'm doing wrong. Everywhere I look has different advice on what to do and a lot of it is contradictory.
Sorry for whining, I know I need to exercise more and eat less and be patient, and I try to every single day, but I'm so fed up with this shit body.
>>5984404
Not at all. Please teach me how to man ;_;
ftmg, intersex person here, raised as a boy, it took me 4 years of testosterone injections (from 17), with voice coaching, relearning how to walk and do stuff in a masculine way to pass as a boy (people stilled called me 'miss' with a mid-teenage looking mustache when i was 20 and even when i was 22 people said i looked like a drag king) and still even when i could grow a full beard and my face bones had grown lumpy and masculine, everyone thought i was just a skinny gay guy with a weird feminine shaped body. i tried hard to be the son my parents wanted but it made me hate myself so i transitioned mtf.
kinda wanted to say ftm transition is hard as fuck. my mtf transition just means i get to do light cardio, but otherwise sit on my ass, and unlearn all my 'you're meant to be a boy, be a boy' training i got by singing and pulling faces in the mirror and going back to my natural movements instead of stomping around like Billy Big Balls. trans women make a deal about all trans guys insta-passing from their first T shot and how easy you guys have it, but i've essentially transitioned ftm and that's bullshit. all my trans friends before i came on 4chan and met mtfs were ftm, and said their first year of transition was hell. T sent me mental, like pure roid rage, I was a monster. you all are a lot stronger than i am mentally. hang in there brothers.
Do you like it in the ass?
>>5992582
it's alright, yeah
>>5992099
Congrats on the muscle, bro. You're going in the right direction, but if you started from rexic mode then your body might need time to catch up. My advice is to lean on protein to curb appetite. It helped me a lot. Otherwise /fit/ can give tips on dealing with appetite in general. Remember, the more muscle you build the better your body will deal with the fat. You just need to keep doing what you're doing and let the T do the rest.
>>5992582
I like it with reasonable sizes and actually get pleasure from it as opposed to zero with vag penetration. Don't do it much though, topping or bottoming. Preparation is effort and I'm never sure if I'll be in the mood or not.
Any tips for gaining muscle pre-T? It's going to be a while before I can get T, but I want to be stronk meanwhile (for aesthetic and health reasons).
I'm following a good diet with plenty of protein, lifting some weights at home (no gym option right now either) and I'm getting consistent and healthy DOMS, so it's definitely working.
But are there any extras that (biological) females should do to help out with gains?
>>5992621
Creatine has been proven to work. It helps the muscles recuperate faster. Dirt cheap and you can buy it anywhere. Other than that it kinda sucks to build muscle without T. It is the magic ingredient.
>>5992606
Thanks...I just keep seeing myself in the mirror and going "how the hell did I get so fat?" and panicking. I've noticed that, if I have my arms hanging straight down by my sides, touching my torso, it doesn't even feel like my own body. I'm really hoping that feeling will go away with time.
And I go over to /fit/ and this is the first picture I see. Fuck. I wish I could fast-forward through my first few years on T. Or, better yet, rewind half my life and stop myself from ever going through female puberty in the first place.
>>5992774
Hey, don't spend your energy on 'what if's. The past is the past. Just focus on getting where you want to be. The good part is that every step you take in the right direction will take you closer to your goal. Less, fat, more muscle, more hair, chin and angles. You'll get there, just stick to the plan, m8.
>>5992649
Another bonus to creatine is that it apparently ups brain function too. If you're into that kinda thing.
How did T affect your weight, m8's?
>horny as fuck
>trying to fap so I look at some porn
>straight porn makes me feel uncomfortable because of the woman and muh dysphoria
>lesbian porn is completely out of the question ever (it's boring anyway)
>gay porn makes me feel uncomfortable because lolnodick
>can't fap to anything
>get bored and tired of trying
>give up and just try to make the horniness fuck off
why live
>>5992582
I don't like it, it feels like less pleasurable POV.
>>5997221
http://www.xtube.com/video-watch/FTM-CREAMPIE-BAREBACK-19791772
http://www.xtube.com/video-watch/bareback-ftm-fuck-1-25431551
>>5995946
Skinnyfat, I must have lost around 10lbs in the first year and I've stayed that weight ever since.
>>5983177
I just sent my grandma the "coming out" email and hoooo boy my heart is pounding. now I'm going to be shitting myself until I hear back from her. or maybe I won't hear back from her and she'll just decide that I'm "dead to her," too...t-that's OK...
I've been living as a gay man for about 10 years now, but never really enjoyed gay sex.
How many FTMs end up becoming "gay" men? Is this a thing?
>>5997338
>tfw no bf to fill with my seed
;-;
>>5997221
Just develop weird and unrealistic fetishes that can only be filled with niche 2D porn like I did.
>>5998306
That's definitely a thing. Look at the strawpoll at the top of the thread.
But I'm not sure how far you'll get with us if you keep putting quotation marks around "gay."
>>5998306
there's no quotes about it mate, i'm a trans man who is as gay as the day is long. apparently gayer than you, even, because i love gay sex. so, you know, maybe consider dropping the quotation marks next time.
Gay male, need some advice. Met a guy, he is bi, really nice, but found out that i am distantly related to his ex wife. now this is not a problem but she claims that they broke up because he is FTM. I really do not have a problem with this, but do i say something, or say nothing and act surprised if he does decide to tell me?
>>5999970
If he tells you he's ftm just say you already knew, when you were having sex with your cousin she told you he has a pussy, also that it turns you on.
>>5999970
it's probably fine if you do say you knew, but if you don't wanna bother with a long and complicated explanation just kind of act normal, i guess. you don't need to act surprised, just treat it like he's saying any other fact about his life.
>>5999970
Just tell him the truth. Don't act surprised, act normal. If you just say you 'you knew' or 'figured', you should tell him how you find out.
>short
>DDs
>perfect feminine body
>binder doesn't work, I look like a B cup in a sports bra
>I will never pass
Please let me die
>>5999970
Tell him the truth that you know already. If I were in his shoes I'd rather know immediately than to have you go "oh I already knew" when he works up the courage to admit it to you
thank you all for the advice, guess i will be upfront, truth is he might not even BE trans, she could just be starting shit so I guess honesty is the best route either way, and if he IS i am ok with it.
>>6000599
same
only thing i have going for me is a slightly masculine face, but it just makes me ugly since i'm pre everything anyway
>>5995946
I went from 104lbs to 112lbs. I was a literal stick, but now I have some meat on my face, a thicker neck, broader shoulders, and light muscle even though I don't go to the gym and I don't think I've been eating that much more than usual.
>>5999389
They're just giving their point of view from their own perspective. As in when they have gay sex maybe they don't feel like it's really gay. They weren't thinking about you or anyone else. There's no reason to get so uppity about that and take it personally.
>>5998289
well thankfully she responded and doesn't hate me outright, but the questions she's asking...ughghhhhh I want to disappear
I really, really don't want to have to explain all of this yet again and deal with another person else telling me that I'm risking my life by shooting up dangerous experimental chemicals prescribed by irresponsible doctors. and just because this whole crazy trans thing is new to you doesn't mean it just came into existence
and I don't understand the strong negative reaction to the idea of being on HRT for life. cis people take hormones all the fucking time, and I don't ever have people give me grief about the medication I'm on for my stomach that I'll most likely be taking until the day I die
>>6000599
Fuck big boobs. Bane of my fucking existence.
>>5980600
I don't think it's gonna grow it a lot before T,but pumping supposedly makes it grow
it works on the penis , so any dick must be safe to do it.
they say, do it a lot of times during the day a short period or do 2 times a day for 30 mins, I usually do it at night like one hour.
it makes it grow, but you need to be constant and I don't know when the results are gonna be apparent.
also, once is big enough you can try jelqing it's like milking a cow, while you aren't there just jerking and pulling it up should work.
the bonus increase is slow tho.
also, pumping increases more girth than length ( it increases both) but anyways I think is welcome.
let's get a decent dick size anon.
>mfw this guy is representing our community
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pveigoFxd48
>>6002415
he seems fine, it's mostly the presenters that sound like dickheads
>>6002495
I can agree with that, but he put himself on a fucking tv show designed to showcase 'freaks' just to gain publicity for his website. Now when people hear ftm transgender, they immediately think of him on the Howard stern show, and that bothers me deeply. He's setting a very low standard for how we should be treated.
>>6002537
yeah cuz everyone looks at the people on the howard stern show and porn stars as proper representatives of anything... you're just being touchy, and really anyone who does is stupid anyway and probably thinks worse shit...
>>6002596
+ porn stars are always on there, i doubt most people see someone with dwarfism and think they must be like bridget the midget or some shit...
>>6002537
>Now when people hear ftm transgender, they immediately think of him on the Howard stern show
not really. the stern show is a pretty niche thing honestly. if there is a person that "most people" think of when they think of ftms, it's chaz bono. he is much much much more well-known than buck angel.
>>6002415
did you see him riding the sybian on stern?
they always make the grills ride it, and he just happily got on it when they asked, it was one of the worst things i've ever seen in my life
>>6002640
who cares, and why wouldn't he? he fucks dudes, he was showing himself off, it's not even extreme considering he does porn.
>>6002640
I would look up the full video but I know it's just going to make me angrier.
>>6002678
it was revolting. it almost made me regret transitioning
>>6002828
lel, you must have a pretty tenuous grip on your own gender if it's that easily unhorsed
>>6002832
look it up. you'll come back a girl i swear
>>6002828
if what someone else does makes you feel that insecure about yourself and your choices they aren't the problem...
and seriously, no shit it was revolting, buck angel is gross and it's got fuckall to do with him being trans... he'd still be gross if he was cis...
>>6002842
fag
>>6002842
Fuck off Brooklyn, you ellipsis faggot
>>6002893
>what is hyperbole
>>6002897
cuz i'm supposed to know exactly how something is meant through text... i'm not a mind reader
>>6002902
>...
>>6002908
...
>>6002938
You're killing me.
What's your life story, Brooklyn?
>>6002945
eh i doubt anyone gives a shit... and i doubt you want a novel
>>6002415
>>6002495
>>6002537
I've said it before but Buck Angel is terrible. He's a huge drama queen, has thrown numerous tantrums on fetlife in the past over spamming his scammy dating website, one minute says people who fund raise for their surgeries are not real men then turn around and launch something for helping other transpeople to afford their surgeries(which went under due to pyramid scheming) and apparently is still throwing fits on tumblr and twitter these days.
I think it's fine if he's ok with and wants to keep his vag, he's just a huge douche bag. But mtfs have Caitlyn Jenner, so I guess its only fair we have Buck.
http://strawpoll.me/7333088/r
Thirsty transgirl, can I post here?
>>6002640
What's so bad about it?
>>6003461
Yes of course
>>6003461
Please do
>>6003124
I can never fill out polls like this because I don't know what counts as "knowing" I was trans. Knowing I wanted to be a boy/have a male body? I think I was like 12 or 13. Figuring out that trans men existed and realizing that I was one? I think I was 27.
>>6003569
I'm actually mtf, but I know your problem. I "wanted" to be a girl ever since I can remember. I knew I wasn't really a boy when I was 16 or 17, but I think I'm a woman until this year.
In a related topic, how many of you had trans feelings/desires as a kid, but still socialized mainly with girls?
>>6003569
For my poll, I meant more of specifically knowing you're trans, not the "clues" you had before then.
just lettin u know, transboys are QTs and i'd like to suck ur swollen boyclit until you moaned
>>6003645
Then I think some of the people responding didn't understand, because who the fuck understands what it means to be trans before the age of 10?
>>6003669
There are enough trans kids who get the support and acknowledgement to start transitioning early.
>>6003677
Well yeah, but I find it very hard to believe, given the demographics of 4chan, that 18% of people here knew they were trans before the age of 10 and only 11% knew after the age of 20.
>>6003732
Doesn't really matter. I meant it one way and I didn't list it specifically, so if people interpreted it another way, I guess that's just too bad.
Curious MtF here, FtM's how do you get your rock off, do you watch lesbian porn, or straight stuff. Or POV so you don't have to look at your junk while you get off (not that I do that).
>>6003813
i read yaoi and get off to fantasizing as the uke
>>6003813
Unless someone's got a thing for lesbian stuff, I don't think they'd be watching it. Keep in mind we're not lesbians.
>>6003820
>Keep in mind we're not lesbians.
kek, being this defensive
>>6003813
I like watching gay porn. I fantasize as the bottom and getting cum loads up my bum.
>>6003813
gaaaaaaay porn for me. I like cocks.
>>6003820
b-but straight guys watch lesbian porn.
>>6003820
just like how there are no such thing as lesbians, there are no such thing as straight ftms.
I should know, I used to be a lesbian and became a gay ftm.
>>6003868
Read the first part of my sentence lmao
>>6003883
this seems pretty true considering how crazy women act. I've read several accounts of bi ftms preferring men due to men having better personalities. And dick. That helps too.
>>6003918
as long as you're not crazy and your okay with me playing with your penis, i'm down to fuck. I just love cocks too much to turn them down whether or not it's on a manly man or a mtf.
>>6003813
One day my sense of shame will allow me to utilise porn but for now imagination. For some reason I get off easier picturing fucking girls even though I'm more attracted to guys. It's weird. But in any case, I'm administering the D.
>>6003910
That pretty much describes me. I don't even consider myself misogynistic or anything but holy crap I've never met a woman who didn't make a huge stink about being trans, then try to make me feel guilty for being trans after the fact.
I am turned on by vaginas but having no dick makes them too much work, and most women aren't worth it.
>>6004410
In general, about being trans, or in terms of dating/sex?
>>6003813
I like straight porn and gay porn(but not yaoi or twinks). Sometimes lesbian clips get thrown in but I really can't be bothered to actually sit down and watch porn all the way through.
>>6003910
I'm attracted to women almost exclusively be it physically or romantically but I just can't stand the drama and I rather be forever alone than have to weed through all the batshit again. I might just go for older women instead since a couple have gotten pretty flirty with me. I'm just getting too old for this petty shit.
I was pretty crazy pre-T myself in terms of emotions but I rather be calm and apathetic than crying and getting mad at things because of absolutely no reason again.
I don't know how to deal with my family's """concern""" about all of the dangers of being trans/transitioning and I'm beyond tired of having to defend myself and explain things over and over and over. It's like they're expecting that one of these times, I'll go, "Wow, you're right! What was I thinking? I guess I'm not really trans after all! Thanks for helping steer me away from the harmful path I was headed down!"
I'm pretty sure they really are trying to get me to change my mind about my "choice" to be trans and that they actually think they're going to get me to detransition because being myself is too difficult and risky. Do you guys get this shit, too? I don't know how to respond to it anymore.
>>6004665
Honestly if you're independent enough I would threaten them with the "if you can't love me for who I am I will find other people who do and cut you out of my life completely and never speak another word to you."
I understand how stupid parents are. My mom told me I shouldn't choose to be trans because she read how high the statistics for suicide are :^) She came around eventually though, hope your family does the same.
Also don't feel bad about being yourself and don't let their misguided fears worry you.
>>6004665
They're likely just uneducated about the matter. When I came out to my parents, they were trying to be supportive and all but still said stuff like "Are you sure you want to choose this? It's a hard life" or "Well, we don't really see you as a boy because you don't act like one" even though I damn right know how I feel and behave.
>>6004702
Yeah, I've been trying to just live my own life and be healthy and happy in hopes that people would see that and realize that I'm a lot better off now than I was before. But it's not working. Apparently it's better to be miserable and socially acceptable than to be content as a freakish "embarrassment." It's so weird having people I once considered to be very rational and accepting turn into emotionally-driven, logical fallacy-spouting nuts on this one issue. And it's being fed by all of the media hype about this "trans bathroom panic," so much of which is completely ridiculous.
My mom did the same thing about suicide, as if I'm going to kill myself NOW, as an out, transitioning adult. No, mom, you should have been worried 10 years ago when I was closeted, miserable teenager, but you had no idea because you weren't paying any attention.
>>6004850
>No, mom, you should have been worried 10 years ago when I was closeted, miserable teenager, but you had no idea because you weren't paying any attention.
that feel when
Hi I'm a detransitioning MtF and I feel like saying I'm 'mtftm' would be too meme-y and seem like a joke, but I don't want to pretend my time as a woman didn't change me in any way. Should I just say I'm FtM? Am I welcome here?
>>6005068
In all honesty, you have it easier than most of us.
You have actual testes and (as long as you didn't take the bad hormones) should eventually guy back up. You don't have to take blockers on top of hormones, just hormones or hormone supplements. Your family knows you were born male and won't give you flack for turning into a male. Sure you might have lost some face, but it's better than losing everything.
You should be fine here but don't stress that you're turning back into a male. Remember some of us will be bitchy because your route is easier than ours (envy is sadly a thing), and share that hormone info. Your unique situation means doctors may pity you and tell you more stuff they wouldn't tell us. You can help us and be a bro, so please don't be shy to do so.
>>6004850
I hate trans media coverage, it always kicks the rabid phobes into overdrive.
>>6005068
I'm not entirely convinced that detransitioning cis people aren't a meme. Like why the hell would you put yourself through this shit if you're not even trans?
>>6004850
Lol I'm sorry anon most of my relatives are tryhard liberals. This bathroom panic has me pretty on edge but I'm not really worried, I just find it funny that uneducated uninformed people think their opinions should matter especially about trans issues.
>>6000677
Well, thanks again, He knows that I know but has kinda freaked out because I am distantly related to his ex wife (had no clue, til my sister met him and told me) someone I don't talk to at all, but he seems worried I will talk so guess i just lost a friend for being honest. Why does life have to suck so much?
>>6005347
>Like why the hell would you put yourself through this shit if you're not even trans?
People make mistakes. They thought they were trans, and it was just a phase, something caused by deep-seated hatred, they were actually genderqueer or just queer in general, they were doing it for sexual reasons and realized it wasn't actually hot, ect. On rare occasion the stereotype of "they're not really trans" is true. In these cases they turn back while they still can.
Examples: Wild Bill (Silence of the Lambs) and the "Die Cis Scum" girl (reddit/youtube). Pic related: it's the later of the two. Not saying he's going to kill anyone or a bad person, they're just the first examples that came to mind.
>>6005542
From back when I looked into " trans regret" stuff, most of the info that didn't seem to heavily skew anti-trans pointed to not passing, and more general rejection by family, friends, and society at large as the most important reasons for detransition in a majority of cases. Not to say phases and fetishes aren't necessarily a thing (and I obviously don't know what's up in mtftm-anon's case), however you can't leave out massive factors like passing, reception and rejection when talking about detransition.
>>5979464
Post a pic then, oh wait you won't.
owned.
>>6004410
>I am turned on by vaginas but having no dick makes them too much work, and most women aren't worth it.
Jesus, that describes how I feel about chicks to a T
>>6005068
Sure, I mean by going into ftmgen alone you don't come off as one of those "trannies aren't real and they're all making mistakes" detransitioners
>>6004665
One time I got so fed up with my dad saying this shit I just said, "well, it's either hormones or suicide."
Not sure I'd recommend it, but he eased up a bit after that.
>>6003813
My pron viewing habits have been jacked up since I started T. Before I only consumed hentai, but then I did a complete 180 and started watching straight porn and occasionally lesbian porn.
Recently I've been leaning towards hentai again, so maybe I'll come full-circle.
>>6007005
>come full-circle
>>6007310
Hey guys, will I ever pass? I'm Asian, medium build, fairly young. I'm self medding with 100mg spiro and 2mg estradiol
>>6007399
Wrong gen but I hope everything works out good for you in the end
>>6005655
I know a MtF who detransitioned because she was getting so much shit, not because she isn't trans. It's kinda depressing to think about.
>>6002415
>mfw THIS GUY is representing our community
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8OJfIEVzp8
>>6004702
>My mom told me I shouldn't choose to be trans because she read how high the statistics for suicide are :^)
I feel you. I have learned that the most common misconception is that being trans is a choice.
>>6007755
i thought that was going to be an AGP ftm who liked feeling up his own boobs but thats not that bad
>>5975922
>How old did you start hormones (or when will you)?
17
>Has your health changed since being on hormones?
Oddly enough, it's just gotten better.
>Are you worried that being on hormones could cause health issues?
Yes, but only because I can't and don't really want to quit smoking.
>At any point, have you thought it's best to continue living as a girl, because transitioning seemed "crazy"? Or that you wanted to avoid social issues?
No.
>What is your biggest concern with transitioning?
People (from my past) recognizing and outing me, not passing.
>Do you ever worry that when you transition, you might regret it, or dislike how you've turned out?
No, there is no possible outcome worse than being read as a girl.
>Does anyone tell you they miss the "old you", or that they liked you better as a girl?
My brother's wife once did, but I don't give a shit about her and she never met me before transition, she's just super religious.
>Does it bother you if your close friends or family don't call you by your correct name and pronouns?
Yes, very, because I'm stealth and they could out me.
>Do you ever feel like you're just "crazy" or something is wrong with you for being transgender?
Yes, I see it as a disease. Transitioning is the cure.
>Do you feel like you're "trapped in the wrong body", or is there a different way to describe the drive to live as a man?
I'm a mutant whose genitals developed wrong in the womb.
>Have you tried other methods to "cure" your dysphoria before transitioning?
Yes; Suicide (failed obviously) and self-harm.
>Did you ever try to convince yourself you're not transgender? For instance, telling yourself you're just a tomboy.
When I was way younger, but not for the past 8 years.
>Have you sacrificed relationships, work, or other very important things in order to transition?
No. Moved away for a fresh start, but hated everybody in old town anyway.
>Do miss anything about living as a girl?
No.
>>5976768
In my family, I wasn't expected to do as much and hard manual labor as my brother was. Generally, before transitioning, nobody expected me to do any physical tasks at all. When moving from one house to another, I'd get all the light shit to move around. Now, usually I'm expected to help with the especially heavy shit, even though I'm in no way any more fit, and get reprimanded a lot for being a tiny weakling (by men and women both).
I'm in Germany, and it's much easier to find a place for rent as a female. After transition were the first times I was denied places for rent, 5 of them actually with the reasoning that the owners decided that they really want at least one female and preferably a group of females for rent because they're "quieter, more orderly and don't break as much".
It's also harder to find a job besides school or uni over here as a guy; There are PLENTY of offerings that specify wanting female employees, but none that really specify males.
I also am not applicable for most of the scholarships I had once picked out for myself.
This city has a service where, when your bus stops after midnight, you can get a free cab to bring you to your home- if you're a woman, that is. The teenage stress of girls chatting about how weird and gross I look and am turned into comments about me really needing to hit the gym, so basically the same thing in a different color. I have to stand up for my tastes more, though- While before transitioning, only females reprimanded my tastes when they went outside of the cute/pretty spectrum as weird and gross and guys were a-ok with it, now females still do the same when it's outside the bland/sportscars spectrum and males reprimand me for liking some cute shit.
Everything else that's changed, I mostly ascribe to transitioning having made me a very different person; More sure of myself, calm, collected and able to hold a conversation instead of a shy shut-in mess.
>>6007755
I like Chase, he's less annoying if you just accept that he's a complete fag.
>>6003813
I'm not able to handle 3D because penis-envy/disgust at vaginas, so I only stick to fetishy 2D that would be impossible irl. It's the only thing that works, too. Best if no genitals are involved.
Normie cisgay here; I've got a date with a trans dude coming up.
Is there anything I 100% should expect? Will we be street harassed?
>>6008215
>Is there anything I 100% should expect?
No.
> Will we be street harassed?
Depends what kind of area you're in and if you're fucking in the middle of the street or not.
>>6007755
>all of ftmtranstastic
>aydian dowling
>ryan cassatta
>youtube ftms
make it stop
im on hormone blockers and masturbating kinda hurts. also im gonna get fucked soon. what the fuck do i do
>>6008411
Please take your crazy back. Or at least please contain yourselves. You are really insane.
>>6008453
Oops, sorry, meant to post in the other general.
>>6007399
It's possible. Most east asians look pretty androgynous. I know for a fact that I do, and a lot of my friends do too.
>>6008241
Meh, some youtubers are okay. I don't mind guys like ClosetTransgender or thegreatwaley. They're both pretty cool guys.
how to come out to classmates who probably have no clue what it is?
>>6009020
>https://www.youtube.com /watch?v=m17dWWbi7wU
figures
>>6009455
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m17dWWbi7wU
fuck
>>6009373
I'm trying to figure out how I'm going to deal with this working at a small mom and pop place in a small town with customers who all know who you are. I start hormones this Thursday. Kill me.
>>6009541
best of luck anon, i had it bad enough working in a big supermarket
it helps if your coworkers are supportive and treat it like no big deal if it comes up with customers, that usually either reassures customers that it's fine or informs them that in that social situation the best thing they can do is back off and act like they think nothing of it
don't forget to pick up on the general vocal array and mannerisms of young men of a similar age and background, i found that to help me with passing almost as much as the hormones do
>>6009541
Well, I'm not that far yet myself, but I'm going for my first appointment this week. It's been getting harder and harder for me to just leave them treat me like a female and use female pronouns all the time. I can imagine a place like that would be pretty hellish. Have you considered trying to get a job at a different place?
well that's that, I guess. my family has completely fallen apart. I'm done. I'm going to go ahead and change my full legal name and disappear now.
I never imagined my mom had this much hatred in her. it's like there's nothing left to her life but anger and bitterness. even her own mother is done dealing with her shit, and my dad still supports her for some reason, even though he's on the receiving end of a lot of the abuse. I don't know where the happy, peace-loving hippies I remember from my childhood went or who these miserable people are anymore.
apparently it is horrible and selfish of me to stop wallowing in shit, move on, and start living my own life in a healthy and happy way without harming others. fine, I guess I'm OK with being selfish. I just hate knowing that my mom is probably now going to join the voices of those who rant about how all trans people are selfish, mentally ill monsters.
>>6010495
That sucks anon, but if she really hates you that much there's nothing you can do to salvage the situation you should just leave because you don't deserve that abuse. It's strange though, usually hippies are pretty with it. Have you told her that your trans because you believe you're a male spirit that was accidently reincarnated as a girl or some mumbojumbo she can relate too? If there anyway you can get your dad to side with you and control your mom?
