have you let kek into your heart yet?
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>>5944485
N-no come back bring me with u
>>5944489
u can't if ur not transed lmaoo
>>5944490
post pictures of yourself doing happy things nao
>>5944495
no
>ywn hang out with all the cool trips in your city
>ywn be cool
>>5944495
>>5944502
i mean alright
>>5944495
O-okay
>>5944503
>wanting to hang out with trips
>>5944446
>tfw Yume will never cook you a bowl of beans & bean
I'm hungry~
>>5944505
you literally look more manly than him
>>5944493
>tfw just a gay alpha male looking for another gay alpha male to be ur partner
>>5944510
i mean thats not even what it was..... it wasnt just beans it was really good ;_;
>>5944511
idk i got gendered female the entire time those 2 days by at least 6 strangers off the top of my head
>>5944520
what is sucking dick like?
>>5944522
ask your mom.
>>5944512
dude either I stole that img from u or u stole it from me
and we both know who the colored one is here.
>>5944520
ur voice is DOPE
>>5944507
while trips are not the kind of people you'd hang around, i just need someone to not be in constant denial with
i die a little inside being with my actual friends cause half of them are girls and i feel so left out when they talk about girl stuff
>>5944518
Yeah I missed that there was rice as well, hehe; although honestly just 50/50 mixed refried beans and garbanzo beans would probably be pretty good, mix in pico de gallo and some lime or something...
>>5944523
my mom is dead
>>5944526
I mean trips are cool just some of them are fucking psycho ;]
>>5944529
oh..sorry.
>how the dick goes from completely flaccid to rock hard in a second
immersion ruined
>>5944532
what about the ones in portland
>>5944495
>>5944534
fucking INSANE man don't go there u don't wanna meet em they're just so terrible ;]]]]]
>>5944522
depends on the dick desu
my boyfriend's penis is super thick and big that it was hard to not use teeth ;~; most of the time he just wanted to fuck my face though but it was super enjoyable and i wish i did it more, also worlds better than sucking a pinky-sized wenis
>>5944524
danke pooks
>>5944538
goodnight u crazy kids
>>5944546
ayyyyee
>>5944546
hopefully for all of our sake you die in your sleep
>>5944552
r00d
>>5944552
cheer up anon
when I say yummy you say yume!
yummy!!
>>5944559
yume
D E A D
same time EVERY night
>>5944564
N-no u
>>5944565
pookie
>>5944568
эiʞooq
>>5944563
yummy!!!
I'm not trans, I'm just some sort of spectrum of autist, I have to be. I just latched on to transsexuality and was unable to let it go.
I am overly emotional, nothing I ever do is right, I feel overwhelmed 90% of the time, I just talk and offend people or get them to hate me... people say "I don't want to adult today" as a joke, I literally struggle with getting up in the morning and even showering every day.
I am a joke and I need to kill myself.
do any of u pretend to be a boy during sex?
>>5944569
I-Idk how 2 do that
>>5944574
out-skillэd
i tell my boyfriend he's gay after we do lewd and he denies it and gets all flustered
>>5944571
you sound severely anxious and depressed, not really autistic.
>>5944576
desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu it's gay desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu
>>5944580
hbthbthbthbthbthbt
>>5944571
I feel you sheen.
you just need to get outside and do a little at a time
>>5944584
>>5944588
desu
>>5944589
pookie u r scarein meh xc
Is there even a point in trying? Should I an hero now?
>>5944593
>>5944600
>>5944598
become a girl instead
>>5944608
>>5944611
wtf are we doing w/ our lives
>>5944613
Fun things, obviously.
>>5944613
idk about u kookie but i'm going to sleep naow
>>5944609
>tfw you will never pass
If I force myself to pass out often enough.
How long until I find and kill the trans braincells with hypoxia?
how do you deal with wanting to die every day and completely forcing yourself to be someone you're not because your brain is completely fucked up and fighting off the urge to completely shut down and off yourself every day? how do you make the existential dread go away?
>>5944615
O-oh gnight!
>>5944614
heh shitposting in between stepmania songs
>>5944621
s: by fixing the problem
You know what you gotta work out yume ; __ ;
>>5944622
nite nite
tell froge i said hi c;
>>5944621
MAMA
BABY WANT MILK
>>5944626
O-okay I did thank u
>>5944624
what you suggested doesn't fix the problems and doesn't make me feel better. its simply a matter of fact that my entire life was ruined in the first few years of my life and any chance of me ever being consistently happy was ruined from the getgo.
>>5944626
weren't you leaving forever?
>>5944621
Lots and lots of endorphins and testosterone
How do i make peace with the fact that i'm scarring for life the driver of the truck i go under?
>>5944632
i think you may be right honestly i should probably detrans for good
>>5944622
>yuri15
>15
Be a nice girl and share those pics.
>>5944630
Wasn't me heh
at least not on skype
But well
that's not fact and you know it, if that's your mindset nothing will change. You need to believe you can change things and be happy for it to happen.
>>5944635
O-okay if you say so >//w//<
I have a lot tho
>>5944626
she said ur the og turk
>>5944636
I meant like in a folder.
>I have a lot tho
Good, tons of cute pictures :3
I just turned 18 and I don't wanna hate myself for the rest of my life. Is there even a point in transitioning or should I just kms
>>5944640
Transition doesnt work. Kill youreself
>>5944640
genetics
>>5944636
I don't even know where to begin
>>5944571
I'm really sorry that it's this bad. I think you're being awfully cruel to yourself, and wish you'd give yourself some time to let this particular ideation pass.
>>5944634
The best thing about it is. Being male responds well to Brute force, to anger, to hate. You can always win.
I've even dragged a knife across the side of my face.
>>5944639
I-Idk how ><
pls show me
>>5944645
w/ talking or changing your mindset?
Regardless I think you should tell her about everything you've said. And then go from there.
>>5944640
how long hrt?
>>5944649
A-actually I don't know what people use nowadays to upload...
I guess you can put them on an imgur album, if it's not too much trouble.
>>5944616
just do your best, I get clocked every now and then
>>5944640
kys
People respond to sheen as though she isn't a worse troll than Kayla.
>posting the same whiny shit for two years
>never makes even the tiniest incrimental step forward
You're not trans, "Shannon"
>>5944652
U-uploading
What's my reward o-o;
I always had fantasies about being captured by girls and foribily given a sex change and then mind controlled to be a girl matrix style
>>5944656
You know Shannon is her birth name so putting quotes around it is empty petulance, right?
>>5944656
shannon is her birth name
>>5944658
I-I guess you can pick something.
>>5944656
"no one is worse then me"
-kayla
hello people of shitland, I have arrived.
>>5944649
No hrt, I'm in a relationship that's stopping me from transitioning but I'm starting to think i should end it
>>5944665
I-it's stuck ; ______ ;
>>5944668
If your partner won't let you get on HRT then breakup with them lmao and start it like TOMORROW
IF YOU AREN'T ON HORMONES THEN LITERALLY GET THE FUCK OUT OF THIS THREAD YOU MAN
>>5944670
Your probably right, thanks senpai
>>5944671
dang, thats some hardcore transphobia, gtfo shitlord
>>5944671
I'm on experimental Testosterone
>>5944671
B-but I'm cis, I-I swear.
I totally don't want to be a girl.
[spoiler];_;[/spoiler]
>>5944668
If your relationship is preventing you from being happy you should, you know, end it or try to reason with your partner.
>>5944670
Aw, I hope it gets unstuck, they seem all cute.
>dfw no pleb gf
>>5944671
there are a number of femmy guys that aren't that aren't trans, that take hormones
>tfw you don't have pictures of you doing things that make you happy because nothing in life brings you joy
Except being an edgequeen <3
>>5944681
H-hi
gosh I hope there's nothing really weird in there o-o;
http://imgur.com/a/QxRd0
>>5944683
lol
been reading about peoples experiance on bicalutamide who claim that after awhile body hair started to disappear completely (not into vellus hair), I asked my endo about it but he has very little knowledge on bica, is there any truth to this?
>>5944695
on hrt for two years and I still have male arm hair and thigh hair
what dosage do they do?
>>5944689
some of those images are downright lewd, i couldve gotten fired
>>5944697
ranging from 50 - 150mg iirc
>>5944698
S-sorry ~~ !
>>5944700
so its similar to spiro in the mg range
I wish I looked like this tbfam.
>>5944689
Thanks, you're the best :3
>>5944711
Of course !!<3
who /vapenation/ here??
Well, that's unsettling. No more waking to work when it's still dark out.
MtF's still enjoy prostate stimulation?
>>5944717
What happened Grill?
>>5944716
\//\
Starting to get bored of telling people everyday about how im gona kill myself desu.
>>5944718
some do, some even report enjoying it through their surgical vajayjays
>>5944723
Never gonna bore me tbfam.
>>5944718
idk I haven't rlly tried
>>5944719
Nothing bad, just an old guy leering at me from, like, two metres away when I noticed him. Park and pathway lighting isn't what it used to be, and I won't stay man-strong forever.
>tfw get a Pandora chain and a bunch of Jewelry from family
:3
>>5944733
Oooh. Kinda jealous of that feel.
>>5944731
>crying about being leered at like a woman
Chek ur priv senpai
it's too late for meeeee ;_;
>>5944738
Pretty fucked up comment, Anon.
But I'm still getting used to not wanting to be killed in a dark and isolated place so that none of my family or friends can blame themselves for my practical suicide. It's a learning process, and you need to review old habits.
>>5944739
How can the knife be laying on top of the gun?
>>5944756
the nigga who took the pic arranged it that way
My titties hurt so bad, I'm only a month on hrt this shouldn't be happening yet tf?
>>5944773
it's the same for me so I really hope it's a good thing
>>5944773
they hurt the worst the first few months
>>5944783
people have already saying that I look alot different but other than that nothing I can think of
>>5944656
>People respond to sheen as though she isn't a worse troll than Kayla.
I'm not a troll, I'm pathetic
>You're not trans, "Shannon"
I know
>>5944790
Omg I'm pathetic too. but how do I not be trans? Jelly
hmm, feel like cutting myself again
>>5944801
don'ttt
>order spiro from qhi, take 100mg every 12 hours
>after 2 or three days get a weird aching sensation in chest
>take more sprio yesterday, about a week after starting it
>within minutes get heart palpitations, shivering, sweating, severe headache
>try to get water, but legs are so weak I can barely stand
>I lose vision and get ringing in my ears like i'm about to faint
>can't sleep at all because all this shit is lasting all night
>be this morning, aching in chest is back again and worse than before
Just nope nope nope.
I don't know why this happened to me but I'm never touching spiro again.
I followed all the diet and exercise recommendations perfectly, I'm young and fit, and this still happened.
>>5944802
fuck you i wont do what you tell me
>>5944801
Tell us what's bothering you, anon-chan?
I am currently in hell, and its not /mtfg
Ugh. Fucking hell
>>5944808
just tired of being a fucking cuck my whole life
also i looked in the mirror again
>>5944798
be an undiagnosed autistic and convince yourself you're trans and antagonize over it for 20 years when in reality you're agp at best
what is everyones scores?
So I'm looking at breaking my collar bone to get my shoulders a bit smaller.
Any advice?
>>5944811
>>5944807
I too have browsed and gotten a bunch of edgy images in the past to help me feel better. (some tags on danbooru like wrist_cutting, that kind of stuff).
How old are you, how long on hormones, why do you think cutting yourself fixes anything (I've done but I was probably just trying to feel sorry for myself)?
>>5944812
agp is a ridiculous and worthless concept. don't even worry about it.
just eat some estrogen, find a nice girl to date and talk to a fucking therapist. it'll all be okay.
>>5944821
>why do you think cutting yourself fixes anything
cutting feels good and is fun.
>>5944815
Too lazy to do math as I'm reading something. Wasn't there a site that does the calculation for me?
>>5944815
-515 wat
>>5944821
21, 0 days, feels good nigga
>>5944829
http://www.checkmyprivilege.com/quiz
>>5944831
>-515 wat
-1505
get on my level
>>5944835
Ironically because of my autism I did it on calc anyway. G-d bless you for sharing this for others.
-140. Check your privilege lesbos!
>>5944838
YAH I KNOW IM WAY MORE OPPRESSED THAN -515 THIS QUIZ IS OPRESSING ME
>>5944832
Why are you not on hormones?
>>5944841
repression, escapism, confusion, no concrete sense of self, waiting to die
i'll start soon but it's not going to be pretty
>>5944844
Y-you should at least try to have a more positive outlook on things, think of it as your new beggining, I don't know, but that attitude sure isn't healthy.
So any tips to break bones?
>>5944815
-485
unpassable trans kills you
>>5944851
>unpassable trans kills you
Fi plz
>>5944848
>>5944848
people cucking me left and right for literally my entire life wasn't healthy
not knowing how to give and receive intimate physical/emotional affection isn't healthy
dropping out of high school and quitting my job and neglecting all of my responsibilities wasn't healthy
it's hard to care anymore, this is just something to entertain myself with before I an hero
>>5944850
get a friend to break them with a baseball bat and hope that the doctors set them narrower?
>>5944854
That's rough.
I wish you good luck and that transition works well enough that you'll stop feeling that way.
>>5944867
transitioning isn't going to fix me, it's just going to further cement my mental illness in reality
i'm not looking to improve my life
my life is a joke for me to laugh at
>>5944815
-445
Trans people are so touchy on certain subjects
>>5944887
OMG NO WE AREN'T FUCK OFF WITH YOUR TRANSPHOBIC BULLSHIT
>>5944887
I'M LITERALLY BEING OPPRESSED RN
my head hurts
>>5944903
Have tried going to a doctor already ?
>>5944906
no. I am afraid of going out and of doctors as long as my bf doesnt make me, I am not going anywhere
he says its probably just malnutrition
I am getting a proper meal for dinner though, so it might be better soon
>>5944908
are you going to be eating... sausage this evening?
>>5944815
-420
>>5944915
no I just did that. I love morning sex
hes going to cook chili for dinner
>>5944917
w-what I meant literal sausage
like wurst sausage not euphanism sausage
get your mind out of the gutter!
...
seriously though I wish I had a vagina too and a cute /pol/ chemist bf
>>5944924
the dream tbqh
Why am I so into guys that don't have their shit together? Like musicians and artists and general slackers.
>>5944924
I wish I wasnt a wreck.
but I am really lucky I got him. he a qt
he isnt a chemist though
>go to reddit trans irc
>ask them how they feel about passing
>tell me that passing is bullshit
>links me to this video saying Alex is a beautiful trans woman
>https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Lj4V-Nme86U
>mfw of the horror
>tfw you shave your beaver (and winter bear legs) for the first time in months.
>>5944936
>go to reddit
I am sorry anon, that was your first mistake
>>5944936
omfg what's their irc group? That sounds hilarious
>>5944935
oh
well still
he is cute
I just wish I had a vagina and a boyfriend who can stick his dick into said vagina
>>5944942
you can doo eeet!
soon(TM)
>>5944942
i know this feel all too well ;__;
>>5944946
I wish I had a /pol/ bf to turn gay :(
>>5944950
its not gay if the balls dont touch
he just puts his dick in your ballsack
>>5944950
its easier to become the little grill than turn a straight guy into a fag tho
>>5944946
I cant though because I am broke and bankrupt and unemployed and hopelessly ugly
so yeah I'm just going to kill myself because I'm not even trans anyway
>>5944958
iktf be my friend
>>5944960
Idk
I was always kinda andro
even got gendered female a bunch of times before I transitioned, but the only people interested in me were short grills and flaming fags. no remotely straight men. but Idk, maybe my behaviour was too manly back then
>>5944958
>because I'm not even trans anyway
what makes you say that?
dubs decides where i cut myself
Hi
I don't want to kill myself anymore (for now)
I think im going to ease on the degenerate shit for a while. Also I bought yoga pants ( i planned on buying them at target today but was having an episode so just got them from Amazon)
Finished my essay for today tho. And did my workouts.
>>5944974
In the shit. As in cut that shit out and get help
>>5944978
poorly memed
So we are not going to Egypt now
>>5944983
thats good news
I was legit worried gurl ._.
avoid MENA at all costs
go visit it when they stop cutting people in half
>>5944980
I-I forgot to checkem' please believe me..... I'm so sorry
>>5944815
-950
......
How fucked am I....
>>5944969
because I'm just an undiagnosed autist who convinced himself he is trans
>tfw I'm gonna get ffs and still look like a man because t shaped body and short legs
>mfw I will look like Michael Bolton in drag
>mfw I want to die but too many people are guilting me
>mfw still posting here
and yet I take solace knowing I'm not Kayla or Anthony Burch
>>5944993
Oh god I love that song
>>5944992
>tfw sperg ad(h)d tranny
the holy trinity
>>5944999
I thought that was BPD Depression tranny?
though maybe autism is more stereotypical
>>5944991
Same
>tfw feelin pretty good this morning then catch reflection in a mirror and see man body
>coworker talks to me and hear my gravely gross voice
sigh..
>>5944992
I thought it was that autists (like, actual autism not the 4chan definition) could have problems in which they think they're trans but actually aren't
>>5945003
its the holy trinity of neurological issues or things that dont real
>>5945004
they say that about most mental disorders though, mostly in combination with BPD, but Idk. I guess both things are possible
Are we really all degenerates and have mental illnesses?
Serious question
>>5944991
>tfw I got fms instead
>>5945009
yes to both.
the second point isnt even debatable
>>5945009
yea
>>5945009
>>5945009
almost every human has a mental illness, some are just better at hiding/suppressing it than others
>>5944992
I'm dysphoric as far as I know
I'm just sinking the boot into myself, but I am never going to afford srs because broke, unemployed and bankrupt
but I am ugly and I'm dumb and worthless
I'm going to bed
>>5945009
Degenerate is a nazi term that isn't really rooted in science
They believed that doing things they don't see as moralley right destroys your genetic material
So we're in definition not degenerate
I'm not too sure about gender dysphoria being called a mental illness is right
But i sure have other stuff going on that you could call mental illness
>>5945009
Most definitely. Some far more than others.
>>5944986
MENA?
>>5945009
I believe that we have a mental illness, but not on the same as other mental illnesses such as OCD or BPD.
When I was younger, I had medically diagnosed OCD, but I managed to overcome it through sheer willpower. I never, ever got rid of being trans though, no matter what I did.
This is me, ama.
The filename is a ruse.
>>5945031
Yous stole my pic you bitch.
>>5944936
Don't worry angie, passing is merely a social construct, with the average trans life-span being roughly 50 years old you only you only have to endure another 15 years of excruciatingly unforgivable pain. our lives do not matter and passing does not matter; Everything will eventually rot away, as long as the factor of time continues being the apex predator of the universe, the inevitable decay of all pain and memory is unstoppable.
>>5945025
But we destroy our ability to reproduce which means when we die our genetic material dies with us. It's not exactly the same but kinda along the same line of thinking
>>5945037
Well actually my head is pretty ok
As well as my body
They just don't match ;-;
>>5945037
O-oh
Why hate that region :?
>>5945040
the misalignement means something is wrong. I am pretty sure our heads were flooded with the wrong hormones in the womb, but I dont think that theory has been proven
>>5945042
cause its failed states and full of people that abduct and kill trannies nowadays. the arab spring destroyed most of them
>when you wake up before 12 for the first time in months
What is this world I'm living in? What do I do?
>>5945047
go back to sleep. its too early
>>5945046
I've been to the middle east before (Israel) . As far as I know, Israel has good lgbt rights, but the rest of the countries are backwards shitholes.
>>5945051
israel is full of kikes tho. thats definitely not better
>>5945053
I am a kike though (half).
I'm legitimately worried that now that teen transitioning is a thing, in a few years all the young pretty trans girls are gonna laugh at us.
>>5945059
Everyone's already laughing at us ;-;
We're the hons of a new generation
>>5945059
that's what you get for laughing at hons, you get to be hons yourself. not me though, I'll top myself before I transition
>>5945059
Its going to happen for sure. In a couple years this place is going to be filled with girls who started hrt around 15 who all perfectly pass but still complain about not starting hrt at 8. Its already happening here and there.
Some of us are the last of the old guard. Our time is over.
>>5945063
damn pookie
>>5945059
It's still trannies laughing at trannies
