Is it too late to transition if you're 21-22?
Honestly, even 18 is too late. Sorry
>>5906636
well you've only got 3-7 years until you are old for a woman, so you might as well give it a try. you can detransition at 30 if you look like a hon, and life as a tranny is too hard
>>5906643
I appreciate the honesty.
So basically, everyone who didn't come out to their parents in their teenage years, then get support from them to buy hormones, they're shit outta luck?
That sucks.
>>5906658
If by teens you mean before puberty.
>>5906694
oh..
depends entirely on genetics. i transitioned at 21 and am fine
>>5906658
>tfw came out early
>all I got was a bunch of hate from my parents.
I will never be a cute girl ;_;
>>5906707
I recognize your trip but forgot what you look like.
Mind sharing a pic? It might put my mind at ease.
What if you had a weak puberty and still look 16 with soft features
>>5906721
k >>5901463
>>5906728
pretty cute
>>5906728
How long hrt?
>>5906748
8 months.
>>5906636
If you can afford FFS then no, otherwise ehh kinda
>>5906658
pffft i was forced to come out and got kicked out without money or resources to survival and left with no future
Picrelated is pretty much on-point. Anyone who started after 15 or so won't pass fully, depending on genetics.
Personally, i started at 17 and still don't pass.
>>5907419
This graph is assuming that the person is literally not trying at all and letting HRT do everything
>>5907537
Which to be fair is most of us here
The problem is, people don't know what to even do, they can buy skincare products and google how to use them, can get make-up and take care of their hair, if they even have hair that is long enough, they can try to put on make-up but not everyone has the face made for that and not everyone has the money for Surgery or hell, even proper Laser Hair removal.
>>5907555
Laser Hair removal won't be more than 200 dollars a session, and usually 8-9 are needed to fully remove it. And these are done throughout the year, the first few monthly and the rest bi-monthly. If you have a job you can definitely set aside that much money.
If you don't have a job, that just goes back to people not trying at all.
>>5907569
Some people can't get a job though, for example if they live in a college boarding school and/or are occupied with something else that they can't neglect, such as looking after an ill relative (bad example, but you get what i mean)
Other reasons for not getting a job may include University stuff or lack of work experience
I myself am waiting to get into a University to have more spare time and try to find a job to get some funds finally.
>>5907569
>hurr durr why don't the lazy poor just fucking get a job!!
It's all about genetics, age is a factor but genetics is the real key. I transitioned at 22/23 and everything has come out okish
Don't fall for the memes about age though, seriously. Best thing to do is probably post a picture in a passing thread or some shit
>>5908225
hey, how old were you in the man pic?
>>5908240
Like 21 or 22
>Be broke uni student in the UK
>Look into transitioning at 20 through nhs
>Denied feferal
>Denied again
>Too poor for private
>Try to self med, allergic to spyro end up in hospital lmao
>Too pussy to self med cypro due to liver problems
>Finally fucking refered at 22/23
>now just turned 24
JUST FUCK MY SHIT UP
You Americans have no idea how good you have it with informed consent. I'm already broad and 6ft 2 now I find out I could have self reffered and only taken a year and a bit to start lmaoooooo. Should probably just kill myself, do the world a favour.
i transitioned at 27 and pass fine. lots of people think im attractive too
>>5908225
you look kind of like gllty
>>5908269
I'm sure you look beautiful, hon
>>5908277
Huh, yeah I can see some similarities. Our eyes and face shape are similar kinda
>>5907419
I get a little tingly feeling in my crotch every time someone posts my graph.
>>5908225
Its all about genetics, money and support.
Age is just a number.
I have pretty decent genetics too, maybe not as good as Sophie, but Im hella broke in a transphobic country, so Im pretty much fucked up.
>>5908282
girl w/ the dank weed leaves in the passing thread
>>5908329
Nice p cute desu.
>>5908329
you're >>5901926 ?
How old are you now?
It's always too late
>>5908346
Lucky w/ genetics or did you get any facial work done, out of curiosity?
And congrats on the passing
>>5908363
i get fillers and botox sometimes but that's it. id say it was more effort than luck. i didnt think i stood a chance but i dedicated my life to improving myself and worked really hard every day on mastering beauty until i was finally somewhere i could feel happy with myself.
>>5908384
duuude can you please post a before pic?
pretty please
>>5906636
Not if you're willing to work for it.
Is 16 too late?
>>5908427
yeah fucking kill yourself f am
>>5908421
So that means pumping my body with hormones and working on my feminine gait? Knowing my fashion and mannerisms? Riding cock so well he goes blind?
What do you mean?
>>5908427
How developed are you? Still growing? Or are you done with puberty? For many people, they won't change much after 16, others may have most of puberty still ahead of them.
From my biased non scientific experience watching hundreds of timelines anything below 30 is fine without surgery unless genetics fucked you.
But yeah as others said genetics is key and then age helps alot but who knows I could be completley wrong. Not like there's any sort of study on this stuff just insecure rantings.
>>5908417
this is the oldest pic i have. its from early in my transition.
>>5906728
Damn, you're a qt
>>5906636
this meme
>>5906636
>tfw 20
>was passable enough at 18-19 to go out in girlmode and not get clocked, pre-hrt
>starting to self med now
>tfw i couldve started earlier but kept pushing back because i thought anything younger than 30 is fine and I'd still end up pretty
fuck why was i such a retard :^(
>>5908427
Post a picture famalam, thats the only way to really get a good estimate. Age means so little. Post measurements and shit even, that means more than age.
>tfw 18 and growing thick black shoulder hair
i will never pass if i don't start soon ;-;
>>5907419
>started HRT at 29.75
I-I'm gonna make it, right?
>>5908225
By genetics you mean how young you look as a "male" or could "older" looking people transition well if they're attractive enough?
Also everyone on /trap/ misses you, but understands why you left, at least the good ones do.
>>5908225
you're so beautiful.
>>5908225
you look like a real girl :)
>>5906636
all up to luck
>>5907419
Wait is this saying you should kill yourself the day you turn 25? Or the moment you stop being 25.
>>5908242
Seriously? You look 15... That was pre hrt? Damn, you got some kickass genetics... That or you took really freaking good care of your skin.
>>5915192
I didn't take care of anything cause I was too afraid of acting or doing anything remotely feminine because closeted and such. Here's a current photo by the way I guess, I'm almost 24 now
>>5909858
It's all in the roundness of your face, if you have a round face chances are you'll pass but if you have the "man jaw" you're fucked.
if yar niggers are 21 or younger i'd recommend starting sooner than later. In about 5 months since i turned 21 i developed huge football player shoulders and a giant witchers' jaw. It all happened so quickly that i went from relatively cute to manly and intimidating; i'm not trans though so it's just sad since i always loved being androgynous, but if you're trans i'd suggest moving as quickly as possible.
>>5906636
if you are under 5"8 and have a thick ass you will pass even with a hon face.
>>5908225
I would fuck you so hard that the friction would start a housefire that would engulf the whole city
>>5915323
unf you're sexy
>>5915323
Ohmigod you are so cute
>>5915323
You looked pretty young before, i wonder if there was transwomen who didn't pass despite being a younger looking male?
Also is it true that hrt won't solve everything, sounds like an obvious question, but someone here said hrt is only part of the process.
>>5916395
Thanks famalam, I'm engaged and in love with my qt fiancée though
>>5916664
Heh, thanks
>>5916942
Thanks ^~^
>>5916953
I'm sure there are people who looked young who didn't end up passing, but looking young I suppose is a big plus because of our relative lack of sexual dimorphism at younger ages. As you appear older as a male it is most likely that you appear older because enough have started to gain these masculine traits that make you look more like a man and less like a boy. Those are the same traits that make it difficult to pass I guess.
To address your other question, yes HRT is only part of the process. While HRT works miracles on some, for others it may change very little.some may need facial and/or body hair removal, some may need surgeries, some may need prescriptions or other methods for repairing hairloss. On top of HRT you have to learn to dress for your body size and type, learn mannerisms (important!) as well as train your voice (one of the harder things for many people!). On top of that, in many cultures and countries, if you want to blend with other women (you don't have to, some women don't follow all the standards of current beauty things and whatnot) things like makeup, grooming your eyebrows, styling your hair and general body grooming like leg shaving and moisturizing.
>>5906643
This is BS. With hormones and surgery to boot, you'll usually be fine. Unless you've got some freaky obvious masculine features.
>>5906728
I'm 7 months and did not receive anything remotely similar results wise. Fuck me dude.
>>5908257
I had a similar experience with making it tricky to get a referral, but then went to a GP specialising in mental health when i was half way through a legal name change, after id socially transitioned.
If you go to them then, it's a lot harder for them to say no because its clear that the transition is already going to happen.... My GP still isnt ideal, but I'm just learning how to push the right buttons more efficiently....
>>5916995
>Some may need prescriptions or other methods for repairing hairloss.
Like going bald?
>Thanks famalam, I'm engaged and in love with my qt fiancée though
SIGH... i'm so jealous.
>>5917058
Yeah, going bald is a problem that in some cases is partially repairable, but if it's all the way gone there are always wigs (I mean the real good kind of wig for like cancer patients and such or whatever)
>>5906636
fuck you, is it too late to transition if you're 31?
>>5917149
but you're never going to be a qt girl doe
Anything after puberty is potential hon territory
The gambit you make of if you put it off, for fear of looking ridiculous out unpassing in your mid twenties and early thirties, you will become completely hopeless hon if and when you inevitably break down and transition
So the earlier the better in the long run
>>5917194
But you're assuming there won't be a cure
Don't listen to these pessimists. I transitioned at 19 and I pass.
>>5917661
pics please
>>5906636
>Is it too late to transition if you're 21-22?
No, it depends entirely on what you're starting with.
I transitioned at like 25 or something, I forget exactly. It worked out fine.
>>5908225
h-hey sophie
when can you hook me up with your dad?
>>5906636
is it too late now to transition?
cause' bein a girl is what I'm missin
Is it too late now to transition?
Yeah, I know I could tape it down
Is it too late to transition now?
>>5917883
My dad is exclusively into my fiancée sorry :/
>>5918224
that is the weirdest shit ever like holy shit. can't he understand that cheska is YOURS and strictly off limits and why her when others (me) would gladly hook up with him (because he's fit af) and leave you and cheska be?
>>5916995
hm. im 19 and im seeing masculine traits like facial hair and a rougher face coming in like a bat out of hell. is it too late for me?
>>5918224
can you go on /r9k/ and post dick
>>5917046
My GP was pretty unhelpful, no blood monitoring, no bridging perscriptions. The worst part is I found some doctor named Dr Webberly who could have done all this for me 6 fucking months ago. IDK I guess things arent too bad, started hrt two weeks ago but now im gona be 25 in 9 months now just feel too old to start. Face and voice are pretty good only problem is my horrific man body.
But seriously cant wait for the day theres a cure for this shit or when they screen for it and abort the unlucky fucker in the womb before they have to suffer any of this insanity.
>>5919005
no, get T blockers and estrogen
I will warn you against it if your face is super masculine.
Personally I'm asian.. so my face isn't masculine at all. When you look at a really pretty T girl like Sophie
>>5908225
her face wasn't very masculine when she was a boy. Even at 22 she transitioned just fine and she looks great.
It's all genetics. Maybe post your face somewhere and let us figure it out for you, if you're not too subconscious about it.
>>5919572
>blood monitoring
can someone get me a list of what i need from a GP while transitioning?
>>5920572
aside from
>blood pressure
the recommended tests are:
>liver function
>diabetes
>cholesterol
and once you start hrt
>estradiol
>testosterone
at least, these are what i've been suggested
wikipedia also lists
>kidney function
most likely for when spironolactone is used as an anti-androgen
also so you know, they may refer to
cholesterol test as lipid metabolism test
diabetes test as glucose metabolism test
kidney function as renal function
>>5918224
Is your dad actually into your fiancée?
fucking kill yourself
>>5920941
Shes still much cheaper than going private, about 300 pounds in total and around a month wait. While private is much more expensive and usually around a 6 month wait or less depending on who you go with. All still better options than the NHS.
>>5921279
how does that 300 break down?
because they billed me 250 for a year's worth of blood tests, plus 50 for an initial counselling session, and that's without even arranging a bridging script which i'm gonna do some time in may when i run out of my anti-androgen
>>5921336
Thats it + the cost of the pills themselves on prescription.
>>5921857
do you know if she's able to give an NHS prescription or is it private?
a private prescription would still save me a lot of money on my anti-androgen that i've been taking (and yes, i asked and granted my bloods are okay she's willing to script them).
but it'd still be expensive and an NHS prescription would help sooooo much
>>5919622
im kind offffff really afraid to post my face here? i dont know. with angles and lighting to hide my facial hair shadows uhh i feel like i have a decent chance but a plain pic with no damage control i feel like a monster. objectively i guess im kind of in between? im asian too but i have some masculinity because im also white
dick pics?
>>5916290
Ya true. You literally described me
>>5918224
You both just have agp like all weird ass transbian couples.
>>5922947
if you're even half asian I think you'll be fine. Just don't expect to be a model, ya know? some people transition and expected hormones to do miracle work. You gotta put in effort yourself to have nice skin and whatnot.
>>5915323
Just wanted to thank you. Following your transition got me to see a therapist and start myself. Have my first appointment at an endocrinologist next month ^.^
Im 22 btw. I think I will turn out ok, maybe need a little bit of ffs but ill see.
>>5924442
you'll be fine sweetie!
bumping for reasons
>>5924218
>put in effort yourself to have nice skin and whatnot.
w-hat kind of effort specifically is needed for ood skin
everyone has told me hrt generally vlears it up to an extent
>>5929310
stuff like exfoliating, using products like moisturizers, eating healthy and drinking lots of water. stuff like that? maybe something like using facial masks to make your skin tight or youthful looking.
I have a feeling lots of mtfs live a neckbeard esque lifestyle of poor health. Then when they transition they're disappointed with what they get, but they wanted the hormones to make them into a beautiful model without effort.
For some reason this thread reminded me of this
http://youtu.be/K7l5ZeVVoCA
I started at 25 and I'm fine. It was a lot of work though...
>>5925923
>>5926584
>>5926608
>>5926705
>>5926735
>>5929407
wow you look really stunning in the first pic
what's your secret?
>>5906636
It's not too late, it's true that chances kinda go down as you age, but it depends on your genetics. 21-22 isn't super late, and again, depending on your genetics you may not even need ffs. Typically speaking. There's just about always hope in your early twenties, even if it takes a few years of hormones and ffs, very few people that age are completely beyond help
>>5929389
>I have a feeling lots of mtfs live a neckbeard esque lifestyle of poor health. Then when they transition they're disappointed with what they get, but they wanted the hormones to make them into a beautiful model without effort.
I have this feeling too
>>5906636
Honestly, passing shouldn't be too hard.
Most women are ugly.
Passing as a cute one is hard, no matter when you start.
>>5916953
>i wonder if there was transwomen who didn't pass despite being a younger looking male
I am one. I look young but more boyish and I will never pass thanks to my enormous forehead and a shitty hairline.
I honestly would make a handsome man better than an attractive woman.
>>5929659
ffs (forehead reconstruction mainly) and she knows her make-up.
>>5929659
Weight loss was very important.
>>5916953
I'm pretty young looking, I still basically look at almost-30 exactly like I did at 18; unfortunately I'm also 6'4 so passing is probably never going to happen even if I manage to someday get to the point where I otherwise look female, heh.
>>5931581
ever considered height reduction surgery?
I'm a cute girl!
>>5936559
bump
>>5929389
>neckbeard lifestyle
y-yeah
u-uh
does anyone know if its a good idea to transition while going from neckbeard health to normal, healthy person health?
would it hurt my chances of passing if i do it while im in the process of getting healthier?
should i wait til im in peak health? or will it not matter if i just do it now and then get into good health while im on hrt?
It's never too late to make a positive change in your life. No matter what.
Is it always better to do it as young as possible? Sure. You're better off if you stay in shape throughout your life, learn a new language as a kid, etc. etc. but being older is not an excuse to not do it.
Same with transition. Doing it earlier might have been nice, but you can't turn back the clock, so if you want to do it just fucking do it.
>>5906636
Depends on whether you want to live as a clubbing hottie or a nerdy neetgirl. Do you need everyone to see you as a QT or are you content chilling with horsepiss running through you?
>>5917161
I'm 33 but look like a doughy teenage fuccboi, so there's a good chance it isn't.
>>5938144
start now desu
>>5906636
I'm almost 25 and still look 18 despite years of substance abuse. I have somewhat feminine facial features. Enough that I'll probably look average once I'm taking in enough xanax to not worry about reactions and just go through with transition.
Don't get discouraged. You'll be fine and if you dress properly, retrain your voice, and don't be a creepy hon then at worst you might end up just looking average and older than you actually are or something when being perceived as a woman
>>5908225
So do you like man or woman? If man would you been okay being gay instead of trans? If bi, what part of being a man did you not like?
>>5939245
I like women and men, I'm really open with my sexuality in that way. I guess it's more of not caring either way than it is liking one or the other. I was not gay pre transition and wouldn't have dated men or been with a man had I not transitioned. I'm now engaged to another transgirl and incredibly happy with it. We get along incredibly well and fill eachothers needs spectacularly. She is honestly the best thing in my life, bleh I could gush on forever but I won't. So yeah, as far as what parts of being a man I didn't like:
Masculine expectations in romantic and sexual aspects of a relationship
Masculinity in my body or face
I used to not like my penis much but I'm learning to accept it as I don't wanna get it cut off
Masculine role expectations/trends in western society in general really didn't fit me. I don't like many "guy things" or acting tough or manly or anything like that (although I do really like cars)
>Started right at 18
>Have a big torso and chicken legs anyway
Is there hope or should I just off myself?
>>5906636
Depends entirely on genetics. I transitioned at 26 and am perfectly fine. My boyfriend is 6'2" and looks like a lumberjack, so if he were trans he would have been fucked by puberty.
>>5940644
>tfw 6,2
lmao time to die.
>>5930996
>Is your dad actually into your fiancée?
>Yeh
Did your dad tell you she was beautiful or was it something else, I'm really curious about the context of this, but i might be prying, so it's your choice if you want to answer it.
>>5931414
>I am one
I can't relate to how you feel but i always though of foreheads as feminine.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nurq-7YnJco
>>5940770
why live :(
>>5940770
Hopefully if/when get on HRT my sperm will get a head start on a passable female life.
>>5906636
Is it too late for me to transition?
I'm 21 btw
/lgbt/ is the reason I don't do it.
Like this>>5906643
You guys and girls keep scaring the shit out of me since I was 24.
Now I guess it's even past the too late territory anyway.
Now if only I could have contact with myself from a parallel world to see who kills himself first, aka me or my version that decided to transition so I can see which one was right.
>>5951482
pretty sure you could make it, you look young which is very good
>>5940465
Work out your legs and butt at least
>>5940340
So basically you are typical bisex transbian. Like men if it feeds your fantasy of yourself as a woman.
>>5951648
Naw, like men if they look aestheticly pleasing to me like Keanu Reeves famalam
I have no fantasies of being a real woman
This fucking thread is so full of shit lmao.
Anyways, TAKE HRT EVEN IF YOU FEEL LIKE YOU'LL NEVER PASS.
hrt will likely make you feel A LOT better! it's for your mind too!
>>5951654
That's why this is such a cruel fate. The longer you take to figure things out, the more fucked you'll be.
You can jump the gun and run the risk of not actually being trans, or wait it out to see if it's legit and become a hon.
>>5952927
someday science will be advanced enough to make us pretty anime girls.. right guys?
>>5906636
Never too late to kill yourself.
Age 24.
Height 5'6"
Lbs 120ish.
Ethnic Asian. .
Existence Cali.
Too late?
>>5956862
>Ethnic Asian
Didn't even read the rest, go for it, you guys are easy mode to transition.
>>5956879
What the hell do you guys even mean by "easy modo"?!
Show me some examples of "easy modos" from this board that had it easy.
I realize now that the names are random by default...
This is 4chans worse April fools
>>5956862
>>5957046
it means asians have less sexual dimorphism, are usually feminine to begin with
I'm asian btw
Unless you were some fag who lifts and stuff you won't look like a macho man even at 24. White people have it harder.
>>5906636
Best time to transition is before birth.
If you're not born a girl then you're a man for life, no matter how hard you pretend you aren't.
>>5959084
that's not a nice thing to say
>>5959834
The truth is hate to those who hate truth.
I've thought about transitioning several times, but I honestly didn't think it would be worth the hassle of it all. Now I'm 25 years old so probably too late for me now.
>>5960271
nah
fuck, 25 and no facial hair
im jealous
>>5960271
you could pull it off
>>5960271
looks like a fitter arin/egorapist
>>5908225
whats the ages of these pics. from 1-2 massive diff,
by 6 sex bomb
>>5951494
You both die in the end. Try to be happy with who you are, fag.
>>5957046
It's usually easier for asian trans girls to pass, it's something related to the bone structure, asians are just naturally more feminine than caucasians.
>>5960271
You will do fine I think, get things started up and HRT will probably do most of the job but in the worst case, there's always FFS.
>>5960843
Does that mean that anon should try it anyway or he should not transition and kill himself faster?
>>5960882
the ultimate question
>>5960882
even if there's a 1% chance you can become a cute girl, you must take it
>>5960655
21 in the boy pic (summer 2014), 22-23 in girl pics (starting at April-ish 2015-very lat e 2015)
>>5964154
how did you come out to everyone? I'm really scared no one will accept me. I just want to hide it all.
>>5964262
I had a massive breakdown and panic attack, hid in my apartment bedroom for a week without leaving and then finally came out. I dunno
do you guys have any advice for transitioning for work or school?
>>5964262
There are different ways to do it.
Some just go out all feminine one day. Others, like me, are starting to go feminine step by step. I first told my closest friends, family and increased the circle slowly. Once the most important people knew, I started to put more effort in feminine appearance. At this point you dont care what strangers think since you (hopefully) have stable support.
I'm 24 and thinking of transitioning, could I ever pass?
>>5965484
yes, but lose A LOT of weight PLEASE
>>5965684
Will do!
>>5965484
yeah, i've seen a lot of transgirls that come out well that begin like you. try contacts, glasses make your face more masculine looking and angular.
>>5908225
can you tell us what your routine was to look that good? your skin is sooo nice.
>>5967245
Don't certain glasses feminize your face somewhat? I wear glasses and have a somewhat long face and thought it might balance my face out a little more. Thoughts?
>>5968695
show pics, girl
>>5929310
Good skincare routines are half of why even average-looking women are able to look like 7s with effort (the other half being makeup and ability to dress.) Start trawling SkincareAddiction on Reddit and read up.
But essentially, it boils down to this:
>Wash your face twice a day, once in the morning and once in the evening. Use a gentle cleanser, preferably something labelled hypoallergenic. DO NOT use hot water, or scrub until your skin feels tight. That is doing it wrong. Massage gently using lukewarm or cold water. Don't use fucking soap, it's too alkaline and will strip your skin's pH barrier.
>After washing, you may use a toner. Vitamin C toners are good because they help you produce more collagen in your skin and also are an antioxidant, thus preventing or helping to fix that discoloration and sun damage from years of doing basically no self-maintenance whatsoever.
>After toner, wear a SPF 30+ sunscreen if it's morning or a repairing moisturizer if it's evening. Make sure that sunscreen is broad-spectrum and has good UVA protection. Also, put that shit on everything that is going to get exposed to the sun that day, reapplying after every two hours of sun exposure. You don't want skin cancer and you don't want to look like a desiccated leather bag like many men or women starting in their 30s. The sunscreen step is so important that every goddamn dermatologist worth their salt lists it as the number 1 method for anti-aging. This step is also half of why Asians have nice skin. Even in winter, even on cloudy days. Do it.
Don't expect immediate results, it'll take a few months for your skin to begin not looking like garbage. But do all these steps for years and your skin, at least, will look far better than that of 70% of cis women.
>>5968753
thank you so much. is there anything special you do for your diet? Like mostly veggies and fruits, cutting out meat or such?
>>5968773
>Eat a shitton of cruciferous vegetables (aka broccoli and kale.) A spinach is fine too.
>Top-tier fruits are blueberries, grapes, and anything citrus.
>Avoid processed sugars/simple carbohydrates and milk. The former breaks down collagen and makes you a fat diabetic, the latter contributes to acne breakouts. White bread counts as a simple carbohydrate. Stick to whole wheat if you crave bread.
>Also avoid pork or beef (don't want more androgens, do we?) White meat chicken's fine in moderation. Fish like salmon or sardines, tofu, and beans should be the bulk of your protein intake.
>Make sure you get enough vitamins. Vitamins A, C, and E are especially essential to good skin. Cheapest source of A would be sweet potatoes or frozen spinach. C is in a lot of things, but especially citrus. Avocado or a handful of nuts will give you your E.
>Water or green tea is the best drink. Homemade fruit smoothies are acceptable.
Hope that helps. I didn't know any of this when I was younger so I want to save other people the trouble of poring through advice and research.
>>5968803
really good advice, thanks :)
>>5968742
Just gonna repost the same terrible pic I posted before..
My mom has a similar facial shape to me and she looks off without her glasses, but that could just be familiarity with her wearing glasses. My eyes are shit though and I keep putting off getting glasses because I'm more worried it'll mess up my face more if I get the wrong frames
>>5969111
*getting new glasses rather
>>5969111
yeah I think glasses would make you look more feminine.
How long have you been on hrt?
>>5969167
Not on hrt lol, still waiting (thanks uk)
>>5968653
Well I don't really have a routine, I'm not very good at sticking to them. I never really do anything to my face, for a little while I used a oil free facial moisturizer before makeup but sometimes (read most of the time) I skipped that. I just do Maybelline Dream Fresh BB cream and my eye makeup and I'm done. If I feel like my fave is getting oily I have a cerave face wash I use in the shower. That's it really, sorry I don't have something more defined! It's possible it's nice just because of genetics I guess, my mom and dad do nothing to take care of their skin and it's pretty healthy
>>5969295
wow, that's amazing! you're lucky to be so naturally beautiful.
>>5969322
Thanks :3
I need to step up my game though, I want to be able to wear no bb cream at all but my complexion has some redness to my nose and cheeks
And eye bags, oh lawdy the eye bags
>>5969167
Why? how bad do I look
>>5969428
you don't look bad. sorry if i offended you. I didn't mean anything by it, just curious.
>>5969445
Nah not offended, just paranoid. I'm used to people hugboxxing me, I'd rather know if theres something objectively bad about the way I look or would hinder me from passing in the future ;w;
>>5969537
you look fine, don't worry
>>5908225
Sophie, sooo beautiful. You give me hope, you're my savior!
>>5969954
how old was she?
>>5970102
<3 best of luck! And thank you so much
>>5970877
She was 21 when she transitioned. Now, she's had SRS and it's hard to tell she's a tgirl
>>5906719
Fuck yo parents nigga.
You tell them fake ass bitches that u gon be a pretty bitch and aint nuthing they can do bout it. So start wearing them dresses and weird socks dat go all the way up to your knees and you do that until they fuking listen to your ass.
