Yo, pathetic beta twink here. I'm fed up looking and acting like a low t cuck yknow? I need to be a MAN. I want strength and power and confidence and aggression and INDEPENDENCE. I strive with every fiber of my being to be a virile man. In my current state I'm the opposite! I'm more of a girl than a man and that mismatch makes me dysphoric as hell because no matter how hard I work out and force feed calories (GOMAD) the gains come SO SLOW if at all. If I miss a single workout I lose a weeks worth of progress, I just PLATEAU so easily, and if I can't manage to force feed myself for a few days I lose weeks of progress. I'm so LOW ENERGY it takes all I got just to complete my workout, then I'm finished for the day. I'm stuck with an effeminate body, I hate looking like a girl, DON'T tell me I need to try to diet/gym harder! All my effort, and yet I'm more effeminate than many of the traps and femboys who TRY to look like girly! People are quick to tell even overweight transgirls to start HRT ASAP, even though their androgens should make losing weight easier, but people in my position who eagerly want to gain weight (I only want to achieve a healthy weight, that's it!) are told to "just try harder, faggot." Why can so many people who want to be girls be naturally manly without trying, and then an AMAB who WANTS to look male, cannot do so?! It would be easier for me to stop lifting so hard and then I'd look even more girly. Fuck my shitty hormones! Look at how much I'm whining, I'm PATHETIC! HELP me stop being like this! I only have energy right now because I took a double dose of a PWO, I could never write a post like this otherwise!
I'm posting this shit here because whenever I made a thread at /adv/ no one responded and /fit/ is full of jerks. Someone here has to be able to relate with what this body dysphoria feels like.
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>>5903531
I NEED to turn my life around and stop being a weak twink and start being a man. This is BEYOND mere willpower, I've been willing and working for YEARS to gain only 15 lbs lbm and I'm still seriously underweight! I started at 110 lbs, that's my NATURAL weight as a pathetic, petite numale, and I've now plateaued hard, shy of 130. I look like zyzz in his before pics when he was a twink, but I'm almost as old as he was when he died! I'm not going to pretend I can go full zyzz, I have a life outside my body, so I set my sights on a realistic goal of pic related. I have a similar frame as him so that SHOULD be attainable natty, or so I thought before I realized I'm a low t cuck!
The worst part is I've been told I have good genetics, but ALL the potential has gone to waste, and absolutely not due to a lack of hard work, which also essentially goes to waste with how little I get back from what I put in.
What do I do?
Book an appointment with a normal doctor to get a reference to an endo? Would they take me seriously? What do I tell them to be taken seriously? Is just being honest enough? Should I tell them I hit all the symptoms of low t, which is true?
What if the ensuing medical expenses reveal nothing extreme enough to warrant the treatment I desire? I feel lethargic as shit almost every day, I want to feel how a 22 year old should! Please help, THANKS!
Whoah eerily similiar situation as me... i didnt know i had body dysmorphia till i met my ex who had it bad. Then it all clicked.
>>5903531
also OP, do you have any before pics?
Iktf man I worked out for years then I got sick and in only two weeks I went back to my starting point.
Some of us just have bad genetics (I'm a turbo lanket 6'6" 130lbs atm) and there's little to do about it
>>5903546
Then you know it sucks!
>>5903549
No
>>5903552
>Iktf man I worked out for years then I got sick and in only two weeks I went back to my starting point.
That sucks! The same thing actually happened to me too, over a year and I still haven't reached that weight, but I had plateaued then too.
>Some of us just have bad genetics (I'm a turbo lanket 6'6" 130lbs atm) and there's little to do about it
Fuck! Is it really genetics, or do we have a disease? Why would men be born to be weak? Have you tried ANYTHING?
>>5903549
Not that I look any different!
>tfw naturally filled out as a stonk, bara man with all the qualities OP so desperately desires
Genetics is a bitch.
No but seriously. It can be done.
I once fucked this one guy when he was 19. He was twinky as fuck and completely submissive to me. Then 3 years passed and the same guy messages me on gindr, and I couldn't believe it was him. He suddenly filled out into a beefy man.
Are you a teenager OP? Your twenties might be good to you.
If all else fails, you can be a real man'a bitch and see your desires fullfilled vicariously.
>>5903579
>No but seriously. It can be done.
HOW??
>Are you a teenager OP? Your twenties might be good to you.
This is what I hoped for, never happened!
>If all else fails, you can be a real man'a bitch and see your desires fullfilled vicariously.
I refuse to fail! I NEED to change!
>>5903591
I feel bad for you. Why not stay cute? Why do you want to be more manly? I love cute little bitch boys.
I don't know how it can be done, but I've seen it done. Somehow effete, twiggy looking faggots finally grow a pair and then into men.
You seem like you're trying too hard. Maybe you could become my disciple.
>stuck at 3
>>5903606
I think a big problem is your mentality. Even without a bitch body you have a bitch mind. Work to overcome that.
>>5903618
I think it's the double dose of preworkout. Or you're right but it's hard to be TOUGH minded when everywhere you go, even girls are bigger, and they don't even try!
>>5903634
Join the army. They'll slap the pussy out of you.
>>5903606
2 here
>>5903531
20 year Muscle bound repressed homo here. (Tiny dicked compensator)
Actually working to kill my gains so I can be a qt femboy and get fucked in my ass.
Want to swap places?
>>5904502
don't, you can still get fucked in the ass
>>5904556
I need it.
Im a total sub in a fit body.
I want to wear skirts and stockings and be a skinny cute little femboy who gets cock
>>5903591
>HOW??
If you can't gain weight, eat more. If GOMAD is not enough then try TGOMAD, etc.
If you lose progress in some way when you miss a workout, then don't miss a workout.
It seems straightforward.
Also see a doctor and raise your concerns with them if you think it really might be a disease or a disorder or some such. Who knows, maybe it is.
>>5904671
subs in fit bodies are the best
>>5904699
But I want to look cute not manly
I really regret my adolescent gym obsession.
>>5904705
another lost cause
This sounds like a job for /fit/ desu. Although I acknowledge most of them are roid raging assholes. Why not maybe seek professional help in the form of personal trainers or nutrition specialists?
>>5903531
You might have low testosterone bruh
>>5910318
Would t solve everything
>>5903531
I feel I'm in a similar spot, but have managed to achieve something closer to my goal body by simply 'trying harder', which ironically is the retarded advice /fit/ gave you. What I mean by that is literally eating and working out constantly. Like, nonstop. At my work, I sneak off for a few minutes at a time and find something heavy to curl, lift over my head, etc. or find two elevated platforms to do dips on. If I'm not on it, my gains disappear almost daily. I eat double what I used to consider a meal now, every meal.
I also have stubborn fat deposits (gyno, hips, ass, thighs) that are typically associated with the female body, and if I don't work out at all times of the day, I morph back into a skinnyfat beta. If I can manage to stay swole all day, I can look great. Never going to have a good chest because of the gyno, but my abs have improved immensely, and my biceps are nearing Zac Efron-tier. The struggle is not knowing what my body is going to look like at any given moment because of how quickly my gains deteriorate. I literally have to check in the mirror to see what stage I'm at before taking my shirt off. Same goes with my face, actually, due to severe rosacea and swelling I never know whether I'm looking good or not unless I check, but that's an entirely different issue...
I mean, I'm pretty sure I know exactly what you're dealing with. Even with things as basic as my speaking voice, I feel I can't 'control' it as well as most guys. Sometimes I can have a deep bellowing, decidedly masculine voice, but get a little bit of swelling in my neck glands or something and I sound like a pipsqueak again. I never know where I'm at until I open my mouth and speak. I literally can't stay one way for any extended period and it's confusing/frustrating. I don't think most people deal with the shit I do on a day-by-day basis. It also ties into why I'm here on /lgbt/. When I'm feeling masculine, I'm straight. When I'm feeling less than masculine, I'm gay.
>>5903531
>I need a MAN
FTFY
>>5903654
I want to be a MAN not a tool.
>>5904100
Iktfb
>>5904502
I'm well endowed but I'd still swap in a heartbeat.
Trust me you don't want to look cute in your 20s.
>>5904691
That much milk would rek my health and BELIEVE ME I've consumed enough milk for god knows how many calves to be reared. I actually upped it to 1.5gomad for a while and gains didn't come any easier so calorie intake isn't the issue. More cals just becomes fat.
I'm gonna have to see a doctor.
>>5904968
>Why not maybe seek professional help
Looks like it's my only choice. Do I just tell them basically what I've said here?
>>5910318
>>5910503
I'm really fucking hoping my problem is that simple.
>>5910719
This is way too accurate! Even that voice thing happens to me and I've never heard of it happening to anyone else! Sometimes my voice is strong and I love it. Other times I get that same feeling in my neck and it comes out like a subservient beta and if I try to force it lower it just sounds wrong.
My sexuality changes like that too, it confused me for so long but it's why I can't settle with being a bitch boy since I feel straight too a lot of the time and women hate twinks.
I'll try working out constantly throughout the day like that. Only reason I haven't yet was fear of "cns fatigue" but that sounds like a myth. I've tried all sorts of different programs but I've never gotten the results others seem to get with so much less effort. Even when I was like 13 I never did anything serious but that was when I first tried training, I did bicep curls, pushups, and situps and I remember making fast gains without even trying. I thought I'd have a good future and couldn't wait until I was old enough for the gym. Now I read of people who don't lift for months and then when they go back they pick up right where they left off, WHAT THE FUCK!
>>5910732
This doesn't change what I said or how I feel
