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>>5862708
>>5863777
thanks for the new thread. goodnight.
>>5863779
I know but it makes falling asleep more entertaining lmao
Should be anime
>>5863786
Tired of your girlfriend already?
>>5863788
next one will be chinese cartoons
can someone make another thread? I am sick of the lesbian threads here.
lets make a princess thread
>>5863754
yaa pretty much this. I don't hate anyone for being pretty. I just hate that I'm not. I won't let myself be happy because really I don't deserve it.
>>5863779
Edie you're a real fucking sweetheart you know that?
>>5863777
>Not living as a butch lesbian
>>5863804
Well I have to sell my bike so I am raw about talking about bikes. Plus I always wanted a street/dirt set up but California doesn't allow motocross bikes to be "made" street legal, you have to purchase them that way or transfer and out of state one.
>>5863809
butch lyfe best lyfe tbqh
>>5863809
kek, I guess I live as one considering I still dress guy mode and get gendered female most the time now
>>5863790
u know u can use strap-ons!!!!!
>>5863786
i get that looool
but it def clutters up the thread u know? plus it makes them keep comin back. IT'S NOT MY BUSINESS THO I'M JS, p.s. hope ur doing well!!
>>5863794
can you not? it's a title and image for a thread on 4chan, it's not that important. stop promoting hate.
>>5863798
ur rly pretty tho
>>5863807
i try ;3; i just don't want you to feel that way about yourself, like looks don't matter that much and you should be proud of yourself for the things you do have and stuff. you shouldn't just focus on the negatives or w/e, they're only part of who you are and ur really great.
>>5863817
true
I'll stop now and keep my powder till thread is almost done
thanks I hope you're doing good too :3
>>5863811
Fuuck. Really?
Ugh
I don't want a Ducati or some shit. I need the travel for paddles & fun shit when I go to Dumont & Glamis. I don't want to need 2 bikes. Fucking commiefornia
>>5863809
You look so much like my fiancées cis ex gf it's a bit creepy.
>>5863777
What should I do?
http://strawpoll.me/7071458
>>5863817
yeah i know but it's not like that edie
YOU DONT GET IT UGGHH
>>5863809
Honestly? That's the kind of life I'm aiming for.
I would love some less les threads in the future. Girls are great and all, but boys have a beauty all their own that these threads have been lacking.
Generic non-lesbian cute thing for compromise.
How is everyone this morning? Well. Today.
>>5863817
I'm not promoting hate. Just kinda silly that every thread now is a lesbian titled thread. I still get irked by the idea of trans lesbians because straight cis people see every trans person as some pervy man that wants to get access to womens toilets and it hurts us all if that's how they see us.
>>5863823
I never hugged anyone romaticly. I want to hug you IRL
>>5863809
> tfw you could pass as a butch lesbian pre-hrt but you are attracted to dudes
Just cuck me up senpai
>>5863832
you do realize mtf lesbians are just lesbians and nothing more ?
>>5863825
>http://strawpoll.me/7071458
Red, since dying your hair blonde has not been popular in the last few years.
>>5863831
Instead of worrying about guys and girls, lets post cute animals
>>5863825
>http://strawpoll.me/7071458
depends on your skin tone and stle desu, i've dyed my hair all sorts of colours, i think dirty blonde is a really pretty colour though
>>5863821
Exactly. I would love to get a CRF450R and throw some enduro 50/50 tires on it, a light kit, over sized stator and flywheel, gold chain, oversized wave front rotor, kick stand, side bag quick disconnect system, hand guards, and get it registered for street use but the state won't allow it.
>>5863841
How about we post depressing timeliens instead?
>>5863841
>>5863820
<3333 ^3^ it does seem like ur doin good so yay
>>5863827
I DO TOO
>>5863831
just talk about boys then. i can help if we need extra dick and makeup talk.
>>5863832
>i'm not promoting hate
>trans lesbians help cis people see us as pervy men and they hurt all of us
do you ever read the things you post? lol
i mean lots of the girls who post here like other girls, and not many of us have boyfriends even if we actively date. plus you yourself don't even wear makeup and do the girly stuff up 24/7. sexuality and gender roles shouldn't play any role in these generals. we're all mtf's whether we like dick or not or whether or not we're feminine or masculine etc
>>5863835
>you do realize mtf lesbians are just lesbians and nothing more ?
kek, outside 4chan this is what 90% of trans lesbians look like
>>5863849
Will I look like that since I started HRT at 25?
>>5863849
>if you don't pass you're not really trans
>>5863832
The problem you're facing right now isn't the way "they" are seeing us, but the way "you" are seeing us. Society at large isn't cruising our threads, but you are. And to some extent you're internalizing all that unpleasantness. Our sexuality doesn't invalidate our gender. Our preference for partners of one type or another doesn't necessarily make us predators. And you need to internalize that, instead.
Your fear of the way you're seen is really hurting you, and that's consistent across threads for months and (presumably) years. You've got to get over this hump, Kayla.
>>5863853
Only if you're a trans lesbian apparently
>>5863856
I like boys :3
>>5863848
clearly u dont
we're like
ann perkins and leslie knope but
on a higher lever
next level shit
http://strawpoll.me/7071540
>>5863849
I AM THE 10%
i've been thinking of medically detransitioning, but not socially/legally. i'm concerned about the lack of sex hormones since i don't make my own any more.
has anyone tried something like that?
>>5863849
Somebody photoshop that ugly man Chris Chan in there, he belongs in that photo.
Alright, Fuck this general.
Too much infighting and depressed girls expressing the same shit I feel daily.
I hate that everyone here are the only people i can relate with, yet Dysphoria and Depression run rampant through me after being here more than an hour.
No irl friends & I'm alienated by my family so I keep coming back for a sense of belonging. Even lurking brings me down.
Fuck everything. I'mma take a bunch of sleeping pills and forego being awake today.
>>5863843
I Knew I liked you :D you know just how to make a girlie swoon with them smooth words.
Like it or not, I'll befriend you yet. Esp when I'm in closer proximity, geographically, no homo.
Alright, I have a date with the medicine cabinet, peace y'all.
>>5863831
yeah...I agree...More cute boys!
I love kissing boys and I hope I kiss thousands more
>>5863875
Did you succ that guy off from yesterday?
>>5863872
or sheen
sheen is officially uglier than chris chan
>>5863849
i actually know who half these ppl are because i've posted their images to laugh before, and the reason i've done so is because they're transvestites. trans lesbians aren't transvestites and this furthers my point in saying you're promoting hate and need to fucking stop lmao
>>5863859
u should date tho i'm js
>>5863865
sleep well!!!
Just kinda wanna throw in that I believe kayla actually tries to get work. I think it's pretty ignorant to say that it's as easy as walking in and asking for a job. I live in klu klux klan capital and a lot of places are a lot worse than youd think. There's a lot of bias in the hiring process. There's a reason unemployment rates for us are high. It's not just because we're lazy and wont work jobs we don't like.
>>5863855
>Your fear of the way you're seen is really hurting you
But have you been in the real world? Everyone who doesn't look normal gets made fun of. I don't want to be made fun of so I would rather hide away than to be harassed in public.
Question. How do any of you suck it up knowing full well cis peers will make fun of your every move?
>>5863878
Add coffee too, poor kid doesn't know it yet but their facial structure isnt feminine enough and too many people buy into the "asian = easypassing" meme.
>>5863870
Why have you been thinking of that? This seems like a very big post that you forgot to type most of.
>>5863849
Hey Kayla, could you like tone it down with the meanness? I just wish you could be more chill...maybe you would be more comfortable with yourself if you were nicer
>>5863880
>Who are Larry and Elliott?
Lilly and Kayla
>>5863879
I am not promoting hate, haven't you been harassed before? At college I am getting made fun of at least once a day just because I look visibly trans. I am saying if one doesn't pass then one shouldn't go out in girl mode. I wish I didn't make that rule up but cis people sure do enforce it.
>>5863894
Can we call them Lilly and Kayla, then?
>>5863890
mostly i miss the mental state i was in before surgery when i had no t or e in the system. while passing is nice i'm not sold on the minor effects e has given me and wouldn't miss them.
>>5863893
>tone it down with the meanness
I am just being realistic. I wish I could not give a fuck like you, I mean I bet you must get all sorts of mean remarks in public.
>>5863833
You're sweet. I would hug you irl and hold you for an awkward amount of time <3
>>5863817
Like I know I'm crazy bit I feel like most of that is obsession with looks. Like if you take out how I look, and how I feel in my body I'm generally pretty happy with myself. But looks are the one thing I won't be able to beat so I'm gonna obsess forever. And the kind of person I am, I will always measure myself by the bad and never the good. Probably because growing up, since I hit up puberty, I have had crazy depression. But also got really good looking. Like as a teenager I was a faggy makeup wearing emo and had long glorious hair. And I was really pretty and beautiful. Then t hit me like a freight train and I went into my Uber man phase. At like 19. Shaved head, muscles, macho. And then I was smoking hot in a really manly way. So I ended up relying on the things I hated most about myself for validation. So now there's this huge mess of guilt for throwing that away. Almost like I'm trying to give away my vanity but claw it back again.
Didn't mean for that to be an essay. Thanks edie, You're awesome stay awesome.
>>5863897
You don't look visibly trans. However, your attitude or mannerisms are most likely why you're getting made fun of... I know you're obsessed about canonical looks, but looks aren't everything. Actually, they don't even matter that much when it comes to passing. But they sure help rounding off your image.
>>5863903
Were you ever actually harassed?
>>5863880
yes
tell me about guys ur dating and stuff bb
>>5863892
WELL OK GOOD
>>5863897
i've never really been harassed irl for being trans, or at least made fun of. the only time i've ever had someone harass me was a year back when that girl started yelling at me in a bar, "WHY ARE YOUR LIPS BIGGER THAN MINE??? ARE YOU A NATURAL BORN WOMAN???? WHY TF WON'T YOU ANSWER ME??? ANSWER ME. ARE YOU A NATURAL BORN WOMAN????" over and over again because she was jealous that i was with a guy she liked, and she clocked me. which is basically the opposite reason you're claiming you're being harassed, and makes no sense since you've only been out in girl mode one time for half an hour.
>>5863905
:( i'm sorry you went through all of that fampai. i don't really know much about your life and like even your transition honestly, like have you started HRT and all that stuff? and you don't have to apologize for like...talking about yourself. that's what this place is for lol
>>5863892
Whatsup? I was having a shitty weekend and now im having a not shitty weekend.
>>5863897
do you use your girl voice and wear your cute girl tshirts and girl jeans?
if you do all that and just be cute and airy and talk about your love of tomatoes you will make friends
>>5863908
I get called faggot at my college at least once a day, also get people saying "pretty hair" and "hey beautiful" as they walk by and they are mocking me. I just want to walk without having another human speak a word to me. Also when I walk by a group of girls they always erupt in laughter and I know its because they are making fun of me.
>>5863914
no I don't use my girl voice because it would make me stand out as a faggot and no I don't wear girl clothes irl
>>5863848
>makeup talk
pls help me makeup senpai. and any other makeup senpais out there!
i know nothing.
how do i foundation? all I have is a light powder and it works a little but doesnt do much for me. are liquid foundations better? or is it just cause im using cheapo shit? should i get a brush instead of the sponge thing it came with? i just dont know what im doing >.<
guess i could always look up youtube tutorials but theyre always triggeringly prettty :(
>>5863917
if people are calling you a faggot what do you care if they do it some more?
70% of passing is in the voice
>>5863918
>guess i could always look up youtube tutorials but theyre always triggeringly prettty
yeah, and they never actually help, they just do it to flaunt their beauty. Also I can't into foundation because when I try it makes my face look fucking worse and every pour stick out.
>>5863918
>are liquid foundations better?
most of the time, ya. cream foundations are good if you need full coverage, or have mature or super dry skin. powder is good if you have oily skin, but it can be tricky to work with. what brand and stuff are you using for powder now?
>>5863922
????????????
god i need to filter you lmao
>>5863923
why not good bb
>>5863920
>if people are calling you a faggot what do you care if they do it some more?
No I don't want people calling me a faggot, this is my whole point, I just want to blend in as a cis dude just so I don't get harassed but my gait and movements are feminine and my breasts and hair make me look like an obvious transitioner. If I was a foot shorter I would go full time.
>>5863910
I know but I feel guilty like I'm not good enough to subject people to my whining! Yeah I started already. I've starting being read as gay so I'll take it. Maybe if I can be faggy again I can just be a pretty linebacker lol
>>5863885
I spend a lot of time in the real world. And so I get that, but you can't let the fear of how others might see you make you attack other people. It takes strength of character, sure, but it's a strength you're going to need as you go forward with your transition. If you stay as you are, always lashing out against what you perceive "they" are lashing out at, you're training them in how to hate you, and reinforcing what you already feel. It's a cycle, and you have to break out of it.
>>5863899
That makes sense. I'd talk it over with my endo, in your position, and get their advice on how best to preserve your health with a universally low hormone system.
>>5863925
>god i need to filter you lmao
How about you tell me how to do foundation instead?
>>5863926
Just go full time
if anyone asks say you thought you were ftm but detransed
>>5863929
>and you have to break out of it
But how? Being loud and proud isn't an option because I am too masculine looking. Maybe I should give up, if I couldn't pass by now I never will.
>>5863934
But you pass...
>>5863932
>Just go full time
but I am not done with electrolysis, I need 9 more sessions and they are $150 a pop. I could afford it if I sold my bike but I am so hung up on it because if I sell it I will never have another again ever.
>>5863875
My husbando famila
Hey, how is everyone today? ^~^
>>5863927
YOU'RE GOOD ENOUGH FOR EVERYTHING AND YOU DESERVE EVERYTHING GOOD!!!! you're nice af to everyone here don't be like dat. also i mean if you're being noticed as being more fem then i doubt ur a pretty linebacker lol. how long have you been on hrt bb?
>>5863931
i'll help you with everything you ever needed to know about makeup if u stop being mean to ppl lol. like i'm literally going to give maddie and anyone else i meet up with all of the knowledge i've ever learned about makeup tbhonest, makeup is like one of the few things i'm an expert on
>>5863944
How am I being mean? I thought we were all just talking.
>>5863925
hm well my skin IS kinda oily so maybe powder is best for now. I'll probably try a liquid tho once i have more expendable income. im super poor atm so I just bought an 8 dollar Covergirl called Simply Powder
my sister uses powder so thats why i chose that over a liquid in the first place. but idk i think she has like expensive shiit
anyway THANKYOU for helpin
You know, I rarely come here anymore.
I transitioned and went stealth and sat around here trying my best to help new people, and gradually a lot of the people I enjoyed talking to faded away and I followed suit.
But it's weirdly nice to come back in some times, and a couple of you are still here.
Keep on being awesome all yall from the early days, you know who you are <3
>>5863950
Hey, try bb cream too if you don't need a ton of coverage. I use Maybelline Dream Fresh and love it. Evens out skin tone without making it look like you costed yourself with shit. I use bb cream, eyeliner and mascara and I'm out the door, easy peasy!
>>5863910
I really wish I were dating cute boys ;~;
I made a decision to wait until I was more secure in my transition (reliable endo, GP that isn't dead, therapist I can trust, out to coworkers so I can do full-time) to start dating again - looking like that may be May with how things are going, instead of the June I feared. There's plenty of hot guys around, though, even if I can't have them.
>>5863953
brag brag brag brag
>>5863956
Someday I'll have a cute bf
>lesbro edition
>not yuri
>>5863957
Not really but I can see why you'd think it.
I'm sort of proud of you as well Kayla, you seem to have come quite a way from the absolute cunt you used to be
>>5863956
> There's plenty of hot guys around, though, even if I can't have them
Iktf
>>5863945
mmhmm...
so what do you need help with, give me the deets
>>5863950
honestly l'oreal true match is an AMAZING drugstore liquid foundation. i actually use the l'oreal true match lumi for all of my camshows cause it's super pretty and cheap. but i have dry skin, and the lumi stands for luminous and luminous foundations are more moisturizing and thus better for dry skin. if you feel like your foundation is looking cakey then it's probably that you're applying too much of the powder to compensate for the coverage, or applying it improperly in general. if it just doesn't do much then it's probably not that great with coverage, which most powders aren't. altho MAC studio fix powder is amaaaaazing and is prob the only powder foundation i would ever use. i kind of hate every other mac foundation besides face and body.
>>5863956
i get that bb. don't you miss dick tho?
>>5863959
Very doubtful. Unless you find fat chasers cute.
>>5863968
:(
>>5863960
Yuri is shit tier weabo crap. No one likes it.
>>5863960
soft butch in a suit is super hot though
>>5863968
We don't have fat chasers here. Those are only in USA.
>>5863972
>no one likes Yuri
Everyone likes Yuri
Even the Nazis persecuted lesbians on a smaller scale
>>5863955
>>5863966
THANKYOU both! this is exactly what I needed, some good recommendations. yeah i feel like i need a little more coverage than what this powder is able to provide, but not an overly noticeable amount. I'll definitely look into both of these!
>>5863961
>used to be
>>5863966
Like you wouldn't believe. I think I might shut down even if a guy just pulled me into his arms right now. Certainly would if I felt his hot breath on my face and neck. But that won't happen if I don't make it happen. Maybe not even then ;~;
>>5863993
well I am not as bad as 2 year ago when I was lifting weights and coming here telling people being trans is degenerate.
>>5863918
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9d-Y30KLBIU [Embed]
this tutorial is pretty good! I've gotten great results on it!
Also, you should try a sponge when spreading foundation/concealor! You can buy a knockoff beautyblender for cheap on amazon
Why has there been no makeupgen on this board?
>>5864002
yikes
>>5863908
>actually
one would have to do things irl
kayla posts are 99% fantasy world
>>5863944
I've gotta like hire you as my personal cheerleader to follow me around all day or something you're amazing.
Not long enough. Few months. So my skin is amazing. I smell great. But I got no tiddies. And still look like hulk hogan's Greek brother
>>5864010
holy crackers. thank you red
>>5864005
what the fuck is wrong with that persons eyes??
>>5863777
Again with the uglies.
>>5863972
I like shit tier weeaboo crap
>>5863977
Point taken, but cute animu girls kissing is super qt tho ;~;
>>5864012
its not me, its cis people, blame them. If cis people would stop talking shit on me when I went out I would go full time fucking today. But the world doesn't work that way, if I don't look like how society sees a girl then they will make my life hell.
>>5864012
But being trans is degenerate. Doubly so for "transbians".
>>5863986
either one works that i recommended for what you want. also consider trying asian "cushion foundations", they tend to look really natural while providing decent coverage for powder.
>>5863987
...well what exactly is it doing that makes you look worse lmfao
>>5863996
why not just do a hookup or somethin? doesn't have to be anythin serious
>>5864018
LMAO i am everyone's cheerleader when possible t b h, i don't want anyone to feel upset or not confident. also i've totally been there with mones. when you hit 1 year ur gonna be so surprised. you should def be taking pics to track your progress, it's one of the only ways to really tell since you look at yourself every day yknow
>>5863986
No problem! I had a lot of trouble starting out too, glad to help!
>>5864026
Kayla... they think you're a trans dude who's glued some shitty whiskers on. It sucks that they're awful, yeah, but it's painfully obvious that you're a girl. No one can mistake it anymore, except you. The bike is just a thing. Make sure it goes to someone who will love it, obviously, but you need those electrolysis sessions to be comfortable with yourself, and stop sabotaging your efforts.
>>5864024
>ywn pick up elanna while wearing menswear inspired formalwear
y live
>tfw you wake up and you are still a disgusting manly fuck
>>5864045
There, there pleby.
Give it time.
>>5864032
>...well what exactly is it doing that makes you look worse
for starters its making my pours look bigger than they are and my shadow pokes right thought, also having my face all one color looks weird
>>5864038
I know, selling the bike would set me up for all my electrolysis and a total and complete wardrobe picked out by a stylist. I just don't want to lose something I will never get back.
>>5864042
That's a disturbingly gay mental image.
>>5864047
can't change mile long shoulders and manly faces with mones. the more weight i lose the more i realize that my bones are unmistakably male. that and i'm p sure my brow bone is growing somehow.
>>5864010
WOW that tutorial was intense lol. what amazing results, thanks for sharing it. I think i'd have to work my way up to that level :o
i have this sponge that my foundation came with. is the powder supposed to get so caked onto it like that?
>>5864055
thanks anon!
>>5864032
I know I meant to do that, but after a few days I was like why do I have so many pictures of myself lol
I'm guessing in a year I'll be in full faggitude territory. I've already pretty much lost all attraction to women. I'll be that big weird guy whos trying too hard to be twinky
>>5864057
The same can be said about everyone here and you don't see them complaining.
>>5864059
I bought that same thing, it clumped up so bad and made my face look all powdery and uneven.
>>5864065
Actually I was literally complaining earlier I'm thus thread <3
>>5864065
>and you don't see them complaining.
are we browsing the same thread?
>>5864072
There's a few different reasons that could be. Most likely application or your skin. Do you look after your skin? I used to have the worst mix or dry and oily skin and that would happen.
Most annoying trips
Permatroll:
kayla
faye
Mentally retarded:
beepbeep
red
korra
Autistic:
oryx
sheen
>>5864032
I've tried hookups before; they left me feeling worse about myself than before. The last one saw me break off some friendships because I was so ashamed of what I'd done.
I know there's some mental block-up that's got me so weird about sex, but I don't know where it came from, or really want to experiment with working though it while I'm already so emotionally unstable.
Since you're doing makeup advice, though, do you mind if I ask what kind of eyeliner you prefer? I mostly use pencils, but I've been wanting to try liquids/gels to see if they'd make it easier to draw a clean line.
>>5864042
>ywn dance w/ anon wearing dapper outfits and short trendy lesbian haircuts
y even life ;~;
>>5864032
great! it feels good to have some actual products in mind rather than going to a store and just guessing my way through
>cushion foundations
interesting, Ive never heard of that. just looked it up and looks amazing, thanks
>>5864072
yeah its been... ok.. but not ideal. so these recommendations have been helpful
>>5864094
>what works for others may not work for you
everyone is different so it's some work to get it right, unless you have good skin
>>5864098
Well OK! Carry on,
Sincerely,
Lost cause
>>5864049
well first of all are you color correcting the shadow? cause foundation isn't gonna hide it on it's own. second of all i'm guessing you have dry skin?
>>5864064
omg how tall are you? you keep acting like ur bodybuilder status lmao
>>5864084
;-; oh. i'm sorry bb. i mean it's prob dysphoria to some extent?
also um i like liquid liners, but the kat von d one i use gets used up so quick. i tend to use gel liner all of the time and then i go over it with liquid liner after i put fake eyelashes on. i use MAC's blacktrack gel eyeliner.
>>5864094
ya cushion foundations are everything, especially in korea. the applicator it comes it provides a very flawless, HD natural effect, and they're not thaaat expensive compared to lots of american brands.
>>5864049
You'll never get back the months of living happily that your bike could get you, either. I understand that it's precious. Perhaps get a trinket to remember it by. But it can make you happy, sold, in a way that it cannot make you happy stored.
Good luck either way, Kayla.
>>5864102
Pleby come on.
I saw your photo. You are just another barely masculine nerd. You are definitely not some neanderthal.
>>5864106
How can you be a lost cause if you haven't even started?
>>5864102
i would say order it online since regardless you're probably not going to be able to get a good color match online vs in person, plus it'll be cheaper online. they provide really dewy natural results considering it's powder, pic related, but asian brands don't usually carry a large range of colors. you'll just want to look up reviews of the shades you're considering to see if it resembles your natural shade before you order. i would say get a U.S. brand, but american cushion foundations are shittier in comparison most of the time, so
>>5864107
I'm 5'10.....i know it's not that bad but I feel like a Giant . and I know I lucked out on sooooooo many things. Tbh the only the main thing is my brow. Ffs can't come fast enough.
>>5864084
Just a tip from a trip gone anon, Maybellines eye studio lasting drama is an outstanding cheap gel eyeliner. I love it.
>>5864082
nice opinion bro
>>5864117
I have started sweetpea I just got a terminal case of manface. But it doesn't mean I'm gonna stop or give less effort I just know that Im still a lost cause. But go Hard or go home right?
>>5864128
Thank you, dearly departed trip. I will definitely give it a try. Best wishes in the hereafter.
>indulging the retard
Why though
>>5864137
<3 best of luck!
>>5864136
>sweetpea
Just go buy some cheap fem&m's like a normal tranny.
>>5864107
what is color correcting? and no my skin is actually not dry or oily, hrt made it pretty good, I just have a trillion freckles is all. I wouldn't even wear foundation if I was done with electrolysis, my sisters have the same complexion as me and never wear foundation since hiding freckles is not worth the trouble, hence they could only give me eye makeup advice which I am now great at eye makeup. I just want to know how do do makeup while I still have facial hair.
>>5864108
Its such a hard decision, sell my beloved bike and get electrolysis done in 3 months flat and get my ears pierced, and a new fitting wardrobe or keep the bike and let it sit since I can't even afford to take it out to the desert to ride.
>>5864148
>Its such a hard decision
If you were trans it would be an easy decision.
>>5864107
It probably has some of that. But there's this lonely feeling, this stabbing pain when I think that it's not mine. The arms wrapped tight around me, the warm body I'm pressed up against. It's all just...for now. And I'll be without them the day after, no matter how good they felt in that moment.
I want sex, but it's deeply obvious I need someone to come home to.
>>5864152
Oh, hush. It's just a bike to us, but it's invested with a lot of Kayla's love. It isn't silly to hurt at the thought of losing something you've invested with powerful emotion, and it doesn't make her not trans that she's scared of that.
>>5864152
Kek
>>5864153
Be happy being alone
>>5864147
I have. I'm popping this shit on the daily holmes
>>5864155
She is a weirdo though. TMI.
>I even stick my dildo to the seat and make love to it, not even ashamed to say it because he's been the only thing in my life I loved.
>I even stick my dildo to the seat and make love to it, not even ashamed to say it because he's been the only thing in my life I loved.
>I even stick my dildo to the seat and make love to it, not even ashamed to say it because he's been the only thing in my life I loved.
>genders the bike
Okay then
>>5864152
I think it's safe to say that the bike is representative of Kayla's motocross career. It's more than just a material possession.
>>5864117
yeah, but this shit? fucking irredeemable desu.if i get up eventually i'll show you how fucked my body ratios are with an unsee.
>>5864121
ahh, i know that like flushing in the stores with minimal english there are some good deals from what i can read? i'm just gonna bring my friend and ask him to help me out to see how much it is, cause i'd rather do a big online order to save on shipping and that stuff. probs gonna go when i get paid on thurs, and just say fuck 1099 taxes for now lol.
>>5864152
nah i feel her to a lesser extent. i cold sell my bass and banjo, but they would go for 100 together at best, and i fucking love them desu. might just sell my decent bass amp tho. it'll give me like 50-60 for some shit. i feel her on the hard to part with shit.
>>5864155
That's amazing. You do you kayls. What's his name?
>>5864155
I guess kayla is bikesexual
>>5864158
Best of luck.
You'll become a beautiful flower of femininity in no time.
>>5864172
OH my god where did you get that pretty hrt pic of me? That was my manly phase I'm so much more feminine now /s
Thanks, I really fuckin hope so. If not, I'll find you
>>5864164
Kayla is just trolling
I hope
>>5864173
Is it Excalibur because if anyone can pull him out of you, they become the king of England?
>>5864127
it REALLY isn't bad at all lol. i know the struggle with the forehead tho, my brow is intense. that's why i always have bangs like pic related. covers my browbone p good.
>>5864148
color correcting is when you cancel something out by using the opposing color. like orange lipstick eliminates shadow on most people. you're gonna wanna color correct it with an orange or salmon toned pigment and then apply foundation on top of it. there are loads of tutorials showin this exact thing on youtube.
>>5864153
:( ye. WELL i mean i hope you'll be able to date a guy you really like once you do start up again!
>>5864167
>fuck taxes
l m a o
iktf. good luck bb!!
>>5864185
Kayla's whole existence is to troll
>>5864188
It was funny. I get what you're saying. If I sold my music gear, it could pay for my ffs, and laser and hrt for a year. But you need to have a passion. With transitioning and being Trans so much of your life is obsessed with it. And having something that can give you a release from that should be cherished and held on to. I really hope you find a way to keep your bike.
>>5864196
okay, I heard of using the orange but no one said why, thanks for explaining
>>5864196
>me on the left
>>5864196
E Y E B R O W S
I think I want mine that thick now
>>5864199
Yeah exactly.
Fuck I'm such a depressing person, I was supposed to work on 3 pieces of coursework this weekend but instead I just slept for over 36 hours (total) and cried about being a huge ugly manly man (it's not BDD) the rest of the time
>>5864196
Thanks for the warm wishes, Edie. I appreciate them, and your general helpfulness very much. You're one of the (increasingly many) reasons I'm glad I decided to join this particular community.
>>5864207
Iktf
Can you talk to disability at your school and get them to provide accommodations for your depression?
Do you have an official diagnosis?
>>5864196
So heres the deal, I had small shoulders, big hips, small hands and feet (size 7), thick full hair, fat distribution to my thighs and butt, no body hair, very little facial hair, and like the prettiest eyelashes ever present hrt. So I know I should be flipping But my face negates all that noise.
How are you so beautiful? Is there like a class or an application I can make? I gotta go and set up for a gig in an hour . Good hustle, I'll talk to you soon Edie. You're so super sweet and nice and lovely and I hope yell have the best time ever in Portland xoxo
>>5864206
<3 it'll be OK lady x
>>5864218
Pre-hrt I mean. My phone is a Dingus
>>5864153
Go for a walk, it's a nice day outside for once; it's what I do when I'm feeling down or need to collect my thoughts. Then again maybe it helps me more because I'm a basement neet anyway but *shrug*
I feel you on hookups. I tried twice and I just couldn't.
>>5864224
Thanks other Ottawan. Have to step out for a trudge by the canal today anyway. Free sexy bras are all well and good, but I was lazy and neglected to buy a functional one yesterday.
>>5864216
Don't have diagnosis yet, appointment about it isn't until the 29th.
>tfw was being a complete idiot in the tinychat last night
>tfw lost weight
>tfw lost fat from cheeks and now my face looks really flat and more masculine
shit
will (or *can*) HRT make my cheeks plumper again? D:
>>5864231
just don't do what I did yesterday and decide to walk around the third floor of the rideau longingly for a while and ultimately not buy anything
>>5864201
OH ALSO, the reason your face looks weirder with foundation all over is that foundation covers up the natural tones of your face as well as hides the natural contours. that's why using a natural toned blush, lipstick, and light highlight and contouring is so important. it brings life back to the face by providing color and emphasizing the natural features you have.
>>5864203
LMAO
we had such a great time that night bb i enjoyed it
>>5864205
you know i love thick brows, they make you look younger and your forehead smaller! thin brows can feminize your face but so can properly shaped thick brows, and what's the point if you look older?
>>5864212
i try ^-^ if you ever wanna talk or anythin tho about ur lonely feels and stuff u can talk to me. i get lonely lots too cause i have guys that i see, but none of them are permanent fixtures in my life yknow. so u have a sister who kinda gets it.
>>5864218
idu what exactly about your face you think is so awful lol. one day ur gonna have to show me a pic so i can properly compliment you, i feel like you're freakin about about nothing. my bod is gross and i have more body hair than a bear. but makeup makes my face look ok. also ty bb ily!!! have a good time at ur gig!!!!!! i will prob talk to you before i leave or while i'm waitin for planes and stuff since i'm here more often when i'm bored and have time to myself lol
>>5864201
>>5864245
to help you see the difference blush makes to the life of your face here is a before and after. adding to this, light contouring helps accentuate your bone structure in a feminine manner while highlighting emphasizes those contours and brings forward the high points of your face like your cheekbones, cupid's bow, tip of your nose etc. it contrasts the contour to emphasize the work you've done.
>>5864242
yes
I had an extremely life like lucid dream. My house got resmided and I ended up getting killed. I then physically felt my consciousness leave my body and pop randomly into some kid. Another person who was at my house I don't remember who it was but they got killed too, they were also here as a kid and for some reason we could both just tell. We were both on our school's playground and were just drawn to each other. After that it was mostly a normal dream just going through the notions of being an 8 year old in this world just like our own. I could touch and smell and feel and it really felt life like. This continued for a few "days" and not much super interesting happened besides the dread that states setting in that I would never get my old life back. I also started to forget my memories of my old life very little. I woke up cus something irl was making noise. This is the second logic dream I've ever had, shit it as real as reality itself holy fuck. Too trippy
>>5864245
I would love to be able to have old-school thick brows, almost straight. Mine are way to sparse for that and I don't like how it looks when I just paint them. Tried to thicken them a bit drag king style with shredded hair and starch, but it doesn't stick all day.
>>5864249
Those eyebrows are so pretty
>>5864249
Also, it helps bring warmth to pallid faces (like mine). It is a hassle to have to use a separate brush for it
>>5864255
I think the only thing that makes me uneasy about that is the fact that the mind can produce such a realistic world and place you in it to where you have no idea you're dreaming. Human mind be dope powerful yo
Hey yume, guess where I'm posting from
Hello MtF G's! =D
/mtfg/ why aren't you cute yet?
I'm so glad /mtfg/ exist. It's the only place I don't feel shit with my emotions.
>>5864303
terrible anglo-saxon genetics
and I mean just terrible
my cis sister looks like a hon compared to her friends and it's hitting her hard too
she's 16
>lesbro edition
u called?
>>5864261
you need to use the right products honestly. anastasia beverly hill's brow wiz is excellent for a natural effect. i have ridiculously thick eyebrows naturally, pic related, so i just the brow wiz and occasionally some brow powder for anastasia and i'm good.
>>5864265
ye they're 2 shades lighter than her hair and arched properly for her face, das how u do it
>>5864269
tru
>>5864301
that's not me lol. i'm not that pretty or that cis.
>>5864303
i don't have any makeup on atm ;3; thx for clocking my whole life
Who /LAERPing as femboy/ here? Can't get off trying to be comfortable as myself so being a kinky faggot on hormones is way easier an identity to slip into in the bedroom.
>>5864304
Obviously you haven't been here for long, then.
>>5864317
what is the point of that bra?
>>5864318
I said post butte
>>5864318
when did you get freckles?!
>>5864318
dose dick sucking lips
>>5864303
need...to...lose more weight....
Hi mtfg!
>>5863941
Hello there! I'm doing alright! How about you?
>>5864303
>need to drop more pounds
>need longer hair
>more electrolysis
>boob job
>>5864196
my parents are gonna be hella mad at me for not utting shit away for the quarterly but fugg it. i'm going to more onboardings and shit so i can just do absurd amounts of freelance delivery work. ty senpai shit might not be that bad once i can start buying the shit i need desu.
>>5864303
No Matter How I Look at It, It's My Genetics' Fault I'm Not Cute!
>>5864326
EVERYONE HAS SEEN MY BUTT 5000 TIMES OMFG
>>5864331
i've always kind of had a few. i have one on the top and middle of my nose, below my right and left eye, above my lip, on my jaw and a few on my right cheek. they're not like full on freckles ;-; i wish i had full on ones. you just usually can't see them in my pics because of makeup. irl they're way more noticeable along with my beauty mark on my jaw.
>>5864336
ye big lips are one of the few things i have going for me along with my cheekbones so i always play them up! GOTTA PLAY INTO UR STRENGTHS BB
>>5864345
ofc, anytime!! feeling confident in ur skin is important and makeup can help accomplish that ime.
>>5864303
Because I'm beautiful, of course.
>>5864351
post BUTT NOW!
I'm more beautiful
>>5864355
>>5864340
hey!
yeah, I haven't rlly been around for awhile and haven't namefagged for even longer, just noticed the "lesbro" edition and that was my most popular trip so I popped in on a whim
doing notsogreat, same old shit,
how about u?
>>5864351
have you had your boi-pucci spread out today?
>>5864355
I'm seriously convinced somebody stole your trip and uses your pics to shitpost. Because your posts are so hard to take serious.
spured on to look up a half cup bra I just came across this
mega cuck
>>5864351
what days do you "work" ;3?
>>5864351
I have not seen your buttocks
>>5864365
Awe what's the same old shit? ;~;
Idk, I'm in a kind of meh place as well. Preparing to drop out of school to find work so things are a bit crazy rn. Add in a sort of complicated long distance thing with someone that I met here and it's been an interesting few months.
>>5864358
>>5864372
b-but posting butt... that's lewd and inappropriate and i am pure and a kind mew
>>5864366
n-no, i did yesterday but not today
>>5864371
t-today and then i'll be off for a week cause i'll be in portland
>>5864303
gotta lose muscle
so far progress has been good as i'm temporarily on a close to vegan diet
veggie burgers are pretty tasty tho !
Ufufu is a hon.
>>5864388
where did you get that picture of my arms?
>>5864384
>pure
>and kind mew
>pure
AHAHAHAHAHAHA!
>>5864384
show us that butts!
who else is just waiting out the clock on life
>>5864390
she is kind of weird looking hon-estly
>>5864398
>>5864403
a butt?? what is a butt???? i think i have heard of that before but i have never had sex or been lewd in my whole life idk, i'm so ignorant to this stuff
>>5864409
a butt is what those big cheeks above your legs are, it's squishy and soft and used to store penises
>>5864407
Frenchfry passes well. So does Kayla now tbqh.
>>5864368
Do you really feel my old posts were better? Seriously?
>>5864388
Is this too much muscle for me to be the girl
>>5864409
2A108DD find these and put them on your wishlist like now
oww my butt
>>5864409
what's with you shilling mew?
y'all know which first gen pokéman i am
does your side profile pass, mtfg?
>>5864421
Pls beat me up.
My girlfriend doesn't want to be with me anymore and I hate myself
Should I just end it all right now?
>>5864416
that is insignificant muscle
>>5864427
i'll beat you up firmly, but gently, so to not actually hurt you.
