>be me, 17m, normal cishet guy
>virgin (not kissless), work out a bit, fairly happy with my body
>discover a fetish thread on /gif/ called xchange (>>>/gif/8241066)
>turns me on like nothing ever has
>have always imagined myself as the girl when watching porn, thought nothing of it, until this
>start pretending to be female on omegle, doing roleplay and shit
>ohshitimgaynow.jpg
>sexuality up to like a 2 on the kinsey scale
>continue talking to guys as a girl, decide to create a second life character as an outlet
>delete second life because i can't figure out how the hell to work that damn game
>realize what's happening
>"oh fuck, if i don't stop this shit i'm gonna give myself gender dysphoria and end up a tranny"
>don't stop because it feels so good
>start actually researching transition, purely out of curiosity
>stay up all night learning the basics of how mtf transitions work, srs, pricing, etc
>decide to buy some female clothes to see how i feel
>buy tights, a skirt, and a corset on amazon, shave lower half, try them on
>feelsgoodman.pcx
>start seeing myself more femininely, stop working out
>start posting to /b/ trap threads
>realize the people on there see me as a man, are interested in my cock
>actually upset by this, i don't want to be gay i want to be a girl
>pretend to be female on kik, get lots of dick pics, send lewd images of myself dressed up
>actually turned on by dick pics, what the hell is happening to me
>recently start envying the fuck out of girls i see
>seeing hot girls makes me jealous more than horny
>tfw will never be qt3.14
what the fuck do i do. please help me, i'm actually scared. i've successfully destroyed my life with this shit - brought gender dysphoria on myself when i was fine before. now i really want to be female, but i don't wanna be an ugly hon ;_;
at least i have the money to pay for all the surgeries, if it comes to it and i can't get out of this hole i dug myself. i just wish i could go back to being happy as a guy.
>17
every
fucking
time
>>5861213
what? i'm 18 now btw, but was 17 when this shit started
It was latent all along~
>>5861191
>turned on by shitty gif captions
You were fucked from the beginning.
You want to get srs and get fucked in your neovag?
full apg mode just like Caitlyn
and 3/4 of /lgbt/
>>5861253
>actually wants srs
That's some heavy ass agp then.
Even I wouldn't want that because it seems too much like mutilation to me; it's just too god damn radical.
>>5861191
Having a fetish for something doesn't mean you have gender dysphoria.
You've got a fantasy. Lots of people dream about being things they can't.
80% of transgender people spontaneously start identifying as their birth gender without any medical or psychological intervention.
It's just a phase, you'll get over it.
>>5861191
same thing happend to me OP, whats worse is that then I started to feel less horny about it but i keep feeling i want to be a girl.
>>5861258
if i could magically turn my cock into a pussy i would, but the thought of all the complications and shit that could come from srs scares me off it a fair bit
>>5861264
>Having a fetish for something doesn't mean you have gender dysphoria.
it started as a fetish but it's getting steadily worse. i've started wishing i was born female, envying girls, hating my broad man shoulders and what not. it's not so bad right now but i fear its only gonna get worse
>80% of transgender people spontaneously start identifying as their birth gender without any medical or psychological intervention.
[citation needed]
are you >>5861169?
>It's just a phase, you'll get over it.
i really hope i do, but it's getting worse every day
>>5861288
You need to go spend some time on /pol/ or something. Get a dose of reality.
At the moment you're just coming across as another special tumblr snowflake who has little to no life experience, and little to no real contact with trans people or even other gay people.
Once you've been to a few funerals of trans friends and gay friends, your progressive leftist ideas of transgenderism will evaporate pretty quickly.
You're allowed to be a bitchy faggy gay guy. In fact, that is THE gay stereotype. It's not the same thing as being transgender.
Also, I can tell already you're not transgender. Transgender people don't say 'I wish I was born female'... that is just a fantasy - and a very common one.
Transgender people say 'I AM female'.
There is a massive difference. You're not trans. You're just gay and have the same fantasy of lots of gay men.
>>5861191
>sissy shit means im trans
Fuck off and go get aids from grinder and die already
Hey OP, here's a thought.
Instead of listening to random people on the internet, why not try talking to a therapist about your gender issues?
>>5861191
>needless tripcode
>be me
>pepe
>meme.file extention
>posting on /b/
Spotted the redditor
>>5861191
>realize the people on there see me as a man, are interested in my cock
>actually upset by this, i don't want to be gay i want to be a girl
>recently start envying the fuck out of girls i see
>seeing hot girls makes me jealous more than horny
Git thee to a gender therapist before your body turns more against you.
Trans Help General thread is the one for you.
>>5861264
That 80% statistic is about "gender non-conforming" CHILDREN which IS NOT the same as being trans. Gender non-conforming would be a kid like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pP2nukRR6c4 Just a normal gay or lesbian child that really picks up the habits and mannerisms of the opposite sex, while being fine with their birth sex. Moreover, the institute which released that statistic (CAMH) was investigated, and it turned out 72% of all the patients were never eligible for a gender identity disorder diagnosis in the first place. Do you see how that means "80% of gender non-conforming children desist in being trans by adulthood" is a huge deception and worthless? If all 72% of the kids not diagnosed as trans were in the "desistence" group, that means only 8% of the kids that were eligible for the diagnosis desisted. These non-trans, gender non-conforming children only end up in these clinics with trans kids, allowing idiots with agendas and medical degrees to warp the statistics for trans kids, because parents see the way those children act as behavior that must be corrected, when it's fine and doesn't need to be modified.
Also, anyone who is trans during or after puberty is certainly trans for life.
>>5861500
They did say they always self-inserted as the girl when watching pornography. Not that I know whether that's trutranny or not, since I never watched pornography.
>>5861264
>80% of transgender people spontaneously start identifying as their birth gender without any medical or psychological intervention.
That number was created by an anti-transgender research group that was caught doing conversion therapy techniques on transgender youth. Furthermore it only applied to prepubescent children.
Researchers from more sane research groups figure if you are questioning, you are nearly 100% likely to be transgender, and what is left is to figure out if you need to transition or not, and how much transitioning do you need to do if you need it. Not all transgenders need to transition, and only a small percentage go and do a 100% transformation. With 700,000 to 1,200,000 transgenders in the USA, and only 50,000 to 70,000 SRS surgeries done before 2004, it is obvious that not all are transitioning fully.
>>5861264
The 80% "desistence" figure you're referencing is from a study of transgender and gender non-conforming children passing through Ken Zucker's clinic at CAMH before it was shut down. The figure is generally considered very poor for two reasons: every child showing up at the clinic who did not transition was considered to have desisted in transgender feelings, whether they were there for non-conforming behaviour (roughly 72% of children presenting at the clinic), or dysphoria. More, every child who left the clinic prematurely was considered to have desisted. This allows their numbers to make much more sense, given all other first world gender clinics show that transgender identification in children, as in adults, is fixed, with a fraction "desisting" roughly proportional to the transitioning population as the transitioning population is to the general public.
/pol/ isn't reality; it's just the lie you want to believe.
>>5861191
This is me, even down to the age
>>5861191
lol, did you forget to turn off your trip?
>>5861800
>Also, anyone who is trans during or after puberty is certainly trans for life.
I guess you can argue that when they commit suicide. Technically, they're trans 'for life'.
What the heck is X-change?!
I saw it, but don't quite understand?
>>5861288
>the thought of all the complications and shit that could come from srs scares me off it a fair bit
yeah but it's pretty much only 50 year old hons that have complications
Just imagine playing with your breasts as you ram your favorite sex toy into your vagina
Imagine getting your first boyfriend and him thrusting into your vagina as you wrap your legs around his waist and dig your pretty nails into his back.
Imagine dating said boy for months and years before he proposes to you.
Imagine your wedding wearing an amazingly pretty dress, your mom crying at her daughter looking beautiful, your dad looking uncomfortable at first as he gives you away but then he too starts getting teary eyed.
Imagine adopting a child and being a mommy.
Imagine getting a stem cell fabricated ovum, fertilised by your husband and implanted into a surrogate allowing you and your husband to have a biological child
Imagine growing old and happy knowing you made the right choice at 17
>>5861910
Yeah, imagine all of that, but with a cock instead.
penis > srs-vagina
>>5861897
Seems to be this alternate universe where a pill called "X-change" exists that can change your gender.
>>5861862
Because they're marked as trans for life by their birth sex's puberty. Even if they received full social support and weren't discriminated against, having traits that are clearly of the sex not desired is very disturbing. Start them on the path to transition early enough, and that suicide problem disappears. The kids in this study haven't received estrogen or testosterone yet, but there's no reason things will change, based on cases like Jackie Green, Kim Petras, and Nicole Maines. http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/early/2016/02/24/peds.2015-3223
Here's an article about that Jackie girl I mentioned. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2235781/Jackie-Green-Transgender-beauty-queen-praises-amazing-family-ahead-BBC-documentary.html Seven suicide attempts, and she stopped making them after SRS at 16. What more of a success can you expect from any treatment? How could transition be considered ineffective when this is the result when it's administered at the right age? You wouldn't give chemotherapy at stage IV of cancer and then say "It didn't work, this treatment is useless," would you? Of course not, you would realize that you had to get it to them earlier.
>>5861455
I am trans and I am female
but I wish I were cis every day if my life
you have no idea what dysphoria is and you are wrong and dangerous
The best advice for OP is to talk to a therapist
>>5861928
wtf
>>5861921
>>/chasergen/
there's a thread right now about you pricks getting off on stringing along transgirls, it's sick
>>5861191
>leave this shithole because a couple people might be agp and everyone else is toxic af
>come back 2 years later
>this shit
welp, ill see ya in 2 years, senpai.
>>5861897
Some animated caption series started (I think) on /gif/
Premise is that there's a TG pill called X-Change, pop it and you're a grill/guy for a little while. There's an Xtra strength version which makes you a grill/guy for a lot longer/permanently, and also allows you to get pregnant.
>>5861962
I always thought that was a joke and laughed at how dumb and shitty it was. I guess I'll never doubt what people get turned on by ever again.
>>5861932
>Start them on the path to transition early enough, and that suicide problem disappears
>Studies on kids find that 80% of them revert back to their birth gender.
You don't see the problem here?
You would rather completely dismiss all of the research that we actually do have because it disagrees with your narrative of what 'should be' instead of what 'is'.
>>5861998
"All the research" you claim exists is exactly one flawed study from a clinic practicing conversion therapy (unsuccessfully, as usual) and doctoring the numbers more than they did the patients. There's actually a lot more research than that. All of it contradicts the figure in your "all the research".
The statistics out of all other gender clinics, AND that one once corrected, shine light on the lie.
>>5861943
bigot
>>5861998
>You don't see the problem here?
Don't you? You have been told by at least 3 people your 80% statistic is horseshit, but you continue to propagate it. http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/the-end-of-the-desistance_b_8903690.html
Also, no one trans is advocating for cis kids to transition. We don't another David Reimer either. We just want trans children to be treated as they should be, with puberty delaying drugs, and hormones when they're mature enough. Not praying, psychotherapy, electrotherapy, anti-psychotics, or anything else that denies the nature of the condition.
>>5862023
>flawed study.
>I disagree with the results therefore they are invalid. Plus I read on a pro-trans website the study was flawed and that suits my agenda.
Encouraging kids to become 'transgender' is child abuse.
It is actively enabling a mental illness that we know leads to the highest rate of suicide of any group of people in recorded history.
>>5862136
I guess when Wakefield posted his study you believed vaccines caused autism too?
>>5861988
Why would you think that it's a joke?
People fap to TG shit all the time, it's a pretty regular thread on /d/ and /aco/.
If you mean that it's low-quality trash, then you're right, but also people are desperate for content, and quality matters less than quantity.
>>5862158
>Why would you think that it's a joke?
Because its so stupid, I didn't even consider it to be arousing but troll material. I laughed at how dumb it was the first time I saw one.
But I also thought rule 34 was about humor and not sex first time I saw it, so I guess I should've learned by now.
>>5862136
If a study conflates two (for purposes of the study) unrelated populations and assumes results consistent with its intent for unknowns, it's a flawed study.
What would you call it?
>>5862136
because of male features that develop starting at puberty
anyone who starts young has a greater chance of very little dysphoria
personally I think that it should be a requirement to not start anti androgens until 12 and to bank, then estrogen should be available at 16 and finally SRS should be restricted to 18
>>5861455
i'm nt gay i'm bi at most
>>5861512
ya got me
>>5861838
good to know i'm not alone
>>5861840
no
>>5861862
oh my fucking god why don't you idiots realize trans people don't kill themselves out of regret, there are a shitload of other factors. i don't even know if i'm trans but this shit really makes me angry.
>>5861897
a pill that changes your sex... that's it
>>5861910
i'm 6' tall and i have a really mannish face (testosterone has already changed me a fair bit). i'm pretty sure i would become a hon
>>5861921
you sound like a chaser
>>5861938
i know man ._.
>>5861862
Nobody commits suicide because they regret transition, most commit suicide because their transition didn't work very well and because of discrimination and shit. You are fucking retarded if you think people kill themselves out of regret. Insanely fucking stupid. Detransition is always an option. If anyone actually regretted it, they'd just do that.
>>5861910
>tfw this will never happen to you, but it's nice to imagine anyway
>>5865338
> Nobody commits suicide because they regret transition, most commit suicide because their transition didn't work very well
This 1000%. If your transition fails, it leaves you with few options: become a deluded hon like everyone over 40, take the hormones but only dress at home (probably ends in suicide because of dysphoria), or detransition (probably ends in suicide because of dysphoria). At least with semi-failed transitions the difference can be made up with with copious amounts of money, which leaves a few glimmers of hope for the future to cling on to.
You're basically fucked in every sense if you failed. In my case, I'd kill myself too, an eternity of emotional torment v.s. momentary physical pain. I know what I'd pick.
>>5865338
Eh, I'd hazard to guess that a lot of them kill themselves even after a successful transition because they themselves have failed to convince themselves that they're really women, and never really believed it in the first place. That's a shame because this intersex brain thing is pretty objectively grounded, but I guess a lot of people haven't heard the news, or just don't buy into it.
>>5869734
>In my case, I'd kill myself too, an eternity of emotional torment v.s. momentary physical pain. I know what I'd pick.
I have some bad news about killing yourself and eternal torment, anon ....
>>5869734
>commits suicide to escape emotional torment
>not seeing the irony in this
>>5869769
>i'd hazard a guess
see instead of being retarded, why don't you do a little research. look into all the happy trans people whose transitions were successful. read some public suicide notes of trans people. read accounts by families and friends.
you don't know what you're fucking talking about, admit it.
>>5861191
This is how all trans people start off as
>First they have a misconception, maybe someone isn't acting tough enough to fit in or they want the Privileges that girls have. So they want to pretend to be the opposite sex
>Second they begin role playing acting out what they are not
>Third, throughout constant practice and repeating lies to themselves over and over and over and over again for countless weeks and months of brainwashing they have done a form of self hypnotism and have tricked themselves into believing they are what they are not. Even worse when they have others supporting, encouraging and accepting cutting off their organs becuase they themselves are misguided.
>Forth, they go through countless chemical castration and physical mutilations in order to trick other people and themselves into being something they simply cannot be.
>And finaly Fifth, finally they realize their mistake and the truth is that's their feelings was no more but a misconception, a made up sick self delusion. But by this point they have destroyed their minds and bodys to the point where they either kill themselves or they perpetuate the LIE using cognitive dissonance to not only trick themselves but to drag other young naive even prepubescent foolish confused children and people into their horrible mutalated torturous freakshow of an existance.
Because if they admited that they had made such a huge mistake in their lives then they would kill themselves.
This is the base truth of all transsickos,
Its why the suicide rate for trans is about 50%.
The ones who live only drag other unsuspecting victims into their torturous hell.
>>5861933
Funny thing is that what they said is the same advice I've heard from therapists.
>>5871029
///thread
>>5861191
WOW this is almost exactly how it went down for me. Now I am post-op and engaged to a perfect guy.
>>5871029
actually the suicide rate is so high because most can't pass, that's why passers have perfect lives, they don't an hero because they can 100% trick people all day every day forever
Are 17 years olds alard hur? God I feel bad for the poor people you cyber with -cringe-
yeah, you sound AGP to me. if you were trans you would know it earlier than 17. Trans people by definition, have body dysphoria in everyday situations/anxiety going to the grocery store/parties etc. AGP people just want a different body in bed for gratify them sexually.
>>5871029
>Well, I have no evidence to support it, but I really like my conclusion. Empty rhetoric and unquestioned assumptions, I choose you!
>>5874537
I didn't know I was trans until I was 20 and I was crippled by anxiety about not being female in public and interacting with people and would break down sometimes when hearing my own voice
>>5874537
>God I feel bad for the poor people you cyber with
What they don't know can't hurt them.
>Trans people by definition, have body dysphoria in everyday situations/anxiety going to the grocery store/parties etc.
General consensus is that that's not true, gender euphoria is a thing as well in which people don't hate their assigned gender but would be happier as the other.
>AGP people just want a different body in bed for gratify them sexually.
I want a different body 100% of the time, what does that make me?
>>5875233
>tripfags
>forgets trip
idiot
