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last one is >>5848669
FIRST
>>5849342
Nah.. I doubt it would help. Just all this stress is getting to me. I just don't want to keep dealing with this :<
First for Grace is a cutie.
I'm gonna head to bed for real now
Good night cuties
>>5849350
>tfw Adri has a girl voice now
Seriously girl
>>5849350
>>5849345
YOU SOUND RLY GOOD THERE JUST FYI
https://clyp.it/nfkoolnr
>>5849348
Well, it helps me get really tired even if I'm feeling stressed or energetic before so idk.
It's gonna be okay Kari, I promise you that, really. Things are gonna get better, they always do for such a great girl like you.
>>5849349
PLS making me all embarrassed right at the start of the thread
Also I'm gonna disappear Friday if this keeps up
Why is my arm so skinny at 55kg.
I'm like fat people weight now.
It's not worth it it I'm mid-20s, is it?
>>5849361
Faye is 30 and looks great so it may be worth a shot anon.
>>5849350
I could beat you up cissie
>>5849359
This picture confuses me. Are you indoors or outdoors?
>>5849356
>>5849356
If you say so.
>>5849366
Bring it.
>>5849342
>>5849358
You have been wanting my skype for a couple days now. I suppose I should give it to you eventually since you summoned me earlier and it turned out to be one of the most fun mtfg threads in a long time.
But for now its time for bed. Good night... little Grace. Say good night to your gf Emma for me.
I know I'm like trying to be a boy, but now I want a girl voice SO BAD, I'm jelly of all of you regardless of what you think your voice sounds like
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNXPnbguc3U bscly me
>>5849342
and i completely forgot the picture again. The plan for the wedding is just 'nerdy as all hell' so im gonna be walking down the aisle to the imperial march. plus a bunch of other super nerdy shit. and i havent actually played fallout 4 yet, i wasnt a great fan of fallout, i played them a lot, but I like fantasy and magic more than post-apocalyptic. And yeah, getting out and doing stuff always helps to make me feel better if im feeling a bit crappy, even if its just to go to the shops.
>>5849345
Oh, that's right, it's classed as a 'mod'. lets hope it doesnt get shut down by disney.
>>5849371
Also sorry about flirting with you so much.
>>5849368
https://clyp.it/l4bmbwpg
>>5849371
OMG ARE YOU SERIOUS
WHO ARE YOU
I NEED TO KNOW OH MY GOD
>>5849362
I keep thinking about it, but it'd take years to get to a point where it wouldn't fuck over my entire life, and the older I get the more I worry about looking like shit.
>>5849368
I'll let you name the time and place since you'll be sleeping there for a while
>>5849379
It is a mystery. And poof she was gone!
Oh but I'm laughing because I enjoyed this so much. Perhaps I will message you on steam tomorrow. Good night cutie.
>>5849380
>as well
Pretty sure you got psychic too.
>>5849388
Trying to not overhype myself is a bitch, but I'm coming at this from what I guess might be a wierd mental angle so it's hard not to.
>>5849391
I never have no
>>5849392
aaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAA you cant keep driving me literally crazy like this I'm gonna end up talking to everyone on my friend list in a quest to find you or just getting frustrated and removing everyone
>>5849391
>It will fuck over your life no matter when you do it. Don't wait.
Like >immediately become hobo levels of fuck up, though.
>>5849389
OOOOOOOOOH SHIT
>>5849394
Well you said mid 20s.. sorry. 23 falls in the mid range if you go by 23-27ish..?
Sorry though. :<
>>5849395
Why not? ;_;
It's never too late or too early to start with something like that.
>tfw you haven't been able to improve your voice in months
>>5849327
>faye senpai noticed me
i-it makes me happy you think its cute
>>5849330
thank you :3
>>5849322
>perfect
i-i dont know about perfect but it made me really happy to hear that
>>5849405
No. I'm saying i am going to beat you up and you will be k.o.for a while
>>5849405
make another clip then faggot
[spoiler]youhaveagirlylaugheven[/spoiler]
>>5849412
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wy-eowf2Stc
>>5849400
Several months sounds like an awfully short time to manage it since my life's half-fucked already.
>minimal education (tried getting equivalency but I'm really awful at putting up with uni bullshit)
>sub-minimum-wage job (have been saving up for years but still really slow)
>still living with parents (would boot me the second they found out, hardline fundies)
>stress problems (pretty much shut down twice trying to deal with uni shit)
>fucking irreparable skin condition (well, there's a supposed cure in clinical trials but those take years and anyway I'll never afford it)
>>5849404
No, you're spot-on, hence the psychic joke.
>>5849409
>tfw Oddish will never beat you unconscious
>>5849409
Sounds like flirting to me tbdesu~
>>5849415
Okay, sorry I'm half awake super groggy. Hope things go well for you. Sounds about like my pot of problems other than the skin condition so yeah, iktf fampai. Here's my timeline thingy. Not best but not worst.
>>5849413
>Faye linked a Scott Pilgrim clip
I didn't think I could like you anymore than I do but you gone and proved me wrong.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4m_eOYgwArI
>>5849418
I'll choke you with my legs anytime.
>>5849413
lmao
i love that
also
>superman
i should watch that movie
>>5849418
thats a weird fetish
>>5849408
yw
>>5849415
maybe you can reach out to a local legbt center or something and see if you can get help
even if you started therapy tomorrow, itd still be a little before you can get hormones
just dont put it off forever, but do what ya gotta do
>>5849409
If I can take Yume and Gem at the same time then I can handle you.
>>5849418
>oddish
>not adri
>>5849410
You've heard my pre-hrt voice, you have something to compare it against.
Hey, mtfg.
Just a question. Is a 36 inch measured chest okay for a 5'8" transgirl? My mother is a little overweight and her chest bellow her breasts is bigger in diameter compared to my chest. I am pre hrt btw.
>>5849428
I cannot begin to express how envious I am that your three get to be together and have such a fun life as you do. This sucks.
>>5849424
literally one of my faves of all time
>>5849428
I have heard it, its been awhile and Im amazed and jelly at how different it sounds
You know whati just realized?
Metal and plastic are non renewable resources. That means, among other things, digital space is non-infinite. Literally eventually online and offline digital data will run out.
>>5849438
Never got the s&m thing. I like cuddles and soft things.
HI =DDDDDD
>>5849438
Honestly I don't know why I said that, I don't really know they'd throw me out, but it's such a fucking tricky subject and irreparable to broach.
This is actually the first time I've put this stuff into words (at least to other people and not in my head), feels all tingly.
>>5849448
hi qt mtfriend C:
>>5849443
To each their own. I still don't get the feet stuff myself.
>>5849446
It's okay, I know how that is, I was prepared for that possibility of having to cut off from my parents and figure shit out. It does seem like a completely unapproachable thing though. I honestly had to 'come out' twice because my mom tried to just like, forget about the first time or act like it wasn't something that really would matter or affect anything.
I hope things go well for you and feel free to chat if ya ever need, I'm usually around and bored/sad like this morning lol. Happy to help others ^^
Ugh I'm not gonna be able to get my mind off of finding out who that anon is this has been driving me crazy for days.
Goodnight /mtfg/, sorry to anyone I didn't reply to that was talking to me, tonight's just been crazy.
>>5849423
Is it bad to say that I would major crush on you in your pre hrt state??
>>5849405
she wants to include you in her plan to wipe out humanity for a pure anarchist society
>>5849427
Oh yeah, it's a 2-hour drive to the nearest city, and I don't drive.
Part of this is trying to make my aspirations concrete enough to convince my brain to get off its ass, I've had brief spurts once or twice in the past five years where I've managed to get shit done but it never seems to last, I always relapse into uselessness.
In a metaphorical sense I wish god would stop playing dice with my shit.
>>5849439
What should i measure?
>>5849433
>dirty transbian twigs
huh?
>>5849435
>being envious of a 6' 1" unpassable femboy, a neet loli and a moe shop girl
>>5849440
You should be glad I won't scare you again with it.
>>5849455
lolll
>>5849433
>>5849428
I just want to break in and say, that I'd fuck you both up like a rental car with insurance
>>5849454
Nah, never heard that one before though.. I always thought I was pretty shit tier looking guy.
>>5849458
I wasn't trying to be mean... it was just that you were so cute and gentle, and you surprised me.
>tfw you'll never beat the shit out of anarchist transgender pocs while wearing MAGA hats
RACE WAR NOW
>>5849462
aren't you part arab? that's basically black
I just read the enigma of.the amigara fault. I've read uzumaki before and really disliked it. This story was better because it was so short.
>>5849452
Feet are cute. They're soft, and they have a nice shape. They can be lewd, or they can be practical. They're sensitive. If you touch someone's feet the right way you can make them feel good.
>>5849459
Yea probably you would you have over 300 confirmed kills
>>5849462
>anarchist trans pocs
Is this me? I would crush you, trump fucker.
>>5849451
What brings you here today traveller?
>>5849461
Oh no you weren't, I was just referring to that one time.
https://clyp.it/wl2kdoda
>>5849475
>tfw you gave fodder for adri to self deprecate to
>tfw she's amazing and you're literally the devil
>>5849476
Never change, 4chan.
>>5849465
workin' today?
>>5849452
They've actually caught me looking at wierd porn once or twice years and years ago and I ended up bullshitting my way out of it, but it's given me a very little bit of metric. Like, walking into a dark room doesn't scare me, but hear something fall and I wouldn't go near that.
idfk my brain is doing loops right now talking about this
>>5849460
I can kind of see what they mean, though, like the facial structure similarities are there a bit. Don't know if it'd work without the current pics though.
tying to articulate how my brain gauges attractiveness is tricky and I don't fully understand it anyway
>>5849476
coolvetica is the best font
>>5849482
Yea. Unfortunately. I'm tired. What happened to telling me to go to sleep.
>>5849487
it's pretty cool. inspirobot made the images though.
>>5849479
i just like the copypasta.
>>5849492
i was afk! bite me.
>>5849481
the only music to call a woman a devil to is blues
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkV1SpPD6mo
>>5849484
It's okay anon, it's fine.
Again I hope things go well.
>>5849492
>>5849495
i can't top that desu
this is all i can offer
https://youtu.be/8kW5YN7HFz4
>>5849504
love?
>tfw you finally sober up enough to sleep
Goodnight mtfg
>>5849504
I'll love and tell you to sleep but you know what I need girl
>>5849478
You shot who in the what now?
>>5849481
>"local" resources and stuff
oh god I just did some googling and they have safe-space bullshit
>>5849481
My shoulders measure at 16 inches from side to side, hips are at 31 inches and my hips are 38 inches in diameter.
>>5849515
love is a social construct. besides you're a coalburning whore and i'm only 12.5% black. :')
>>5849515
Sweet what colour?
>>5849512
I dunno if you've guessed it, but I feel extremely bad for causing anyone to feel bad even for a second.
>>5849523
Like my girl Annie c. Nice
>>5849516
I mean waist is 31 inches, ugh.
I'm going to disappear again
I want to get better and the people who hate me here and drag me down outweigh those who I consider friends
I need to be better and not coming here is part of that
>>5849523
>not a whore
what a shame.
>>5849529
good luck des
>>5849529
We could be friends.
my voice is A2, 110hz, im so fuckedddddddd
>>5849497
Sorry, I'm pretty awful at talking to people even online. Thanks though.
>>5849481
>>5849514
>well, still, try and reach out to the "local" resources and stuff
To elaborate on this I really don't like a lot of the politics, which is one of the reasons I had uni trouble (though that was a different sort of politics, apparently handing out classmate bingo sheets but not course outlines because they're bad for the trees isn't hypocritical at all!), so combine that with my being socially shit and it's a great recipe for being irrationally scared of everything. Feels like my, idk, consciousness and whatever part of the brain that actually controls my body have absolutely no connection too much of the time.
>>5849534
do n ot cry. i was just pranking bbgurl
>>5849535
https://clyp.it/rm25soov
whats the highest note you can hold though?
>tfw fat because you didn't care about your appearance or health at all when you were "male"
>tfw losing weight but its going to take like a year to be thin because you're so fucked
>>5849535
How do you measure this? I've managed some pretty girly impersonations in the past, I think, but it's really hard to tell what I actually sound like.
>>5849536
Nah I'm just being depressive today sorry.. I am happy to chat though my contact is in the Zeemaps. I am pretty boring though. ;-;
>>5849539
c#4 277 hz
>>5849535
https://clyp.it/elifrh4q
This was an older voice recording of mine with girl and guy voices. I think it's improved a bit since this but I just don't want to record anything new right now.
>>5849542
pitch analyzer for iphone or the better one for android
>>5849546
then you have hope. i talk at 120 and can hold ~260.
>>5849552
Thanks a lot, sista!!!
>tfw all these transgirls becoming cute/attractive/passing/successful and improving every month
>tfw still an ugly mentally ill NEET and can't achieve girlvoice resonance for some reason
>tfw tiny facial features on big/broad/long face with chiselled, long jaw
>tfw never seem to make any progress
>tfw still just look like a very slightly faggy man 10 years past my actual age
>>5849564
i can't moan.
>>5849570
My main problem is coughing. Sneezing is slowly following voice but cough seems to never change.
>>5849573
I have the reverse, i can cough like a girl but my sneeze is so manly i just breathe air so i don't have to, otherwise it would be embarrassing.
people usually say i sort of pass but i put effort into the picture so i made a picture that looks like shit on purpose what do you think
again emphasizing SHIT ON PURPOSE
SHIT ON PURPOSE
>>5849583
go away sheen jr
>>5849584
i know im fat but do i look more like a fat ugly girl or a fat ugly boy
>>5849583
back to /pol/
>>5849586
fat makes everyone look like am intersex whale
>>5849583
have my babies.
>>5849569
20 minutes of fucking around later, I've already decided I'm going to be a mute from now on
https://clyp.it/kns4vzw1
>>5849583
kara-?
>>5849590
gayyyyyyyy
>>5849590
https://clyp.it/5tgase1n
>>5849591
i can't fake moans and i don't have a sex life.
one with a little bit of effort but not too much for comparison
>>5849600
Riley Kilo?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/03/09/dentist-of-horror-on-trial-for-alleged-mutilations-in-rural-french-village/?tid=sm_fb
"Van Nierop has tried to block his prosecution on psychological grounds, the AP reported; the dentist claims he suffers from a borderline personality disorder that is complicated by the fact that he is transgender."
And so it begins.
>>5849605
>google it
>stew and brew
i've never felt more incentive to kill myself.
haha aww circe's porn got leaked
the tumblr she posts it under has a funny url though
>>5849611
You just sound fairly similar to her.
>>5849590
https://clyp.it/0vbi2h2t
>>5849604
You're up early
>>5849614
is that a good thing? i've only been training with that voice for the last two days.
>tfw a stew and brewer looks/sounds better than me and i'm just a hon.
How do I tell if I have actual dysphoria or just auto?
>ywn pass
>ywn even look unpassing but inoffensive
>ywn be able to post a face pic without being ridiculed and pitied
>ywn be able to go back to being the 8/10 guy you were before transition
>ywn live an ordinary life free from mental illness or excessive judgement from the public
>ywn be okay
>>5849628
Preach
I want to kill myself but I don't want to hurt the people I care about. Fucking hell.
>>5849631
Pretty sure the pain people in my life would suffer is less than the shit I'll put them through for the next 50 years
>hair gets fro-like when long
This is going to bite me in the ass later, isn't it?
>>5849634
what about when people tell you you're the only thing keeping them sane
;-; I don't want to be a piece of shit but I need to end the suffering so badly
Whichever of yall is posting in r9k, woman up and get your meds.
Beta little shits
>>5849612
Tfw i got shown that shit, absolutely degenerate
>>5849604
fix your eyebrows
i assume you already know about losing a bit of weight
you'll be fine
>>5849535
If I go to 220 I sound like a man pretending to sound like a woman. 185 sounds a lot better to me.
>>5849634
i just don't know how to fake it.
>>5849644
oh....
hmm thats tough
i'd had people tell me things like that, but i later found out they were lying, it really upset me.
idk
i mean do what you need to do for yourself.
if you wanna live, live, but if not, you're entitled to take your own life imo.
just write them a letter and say 'sorry i couldn't bear this anymore"
but idk
>>5849643
take good care of it
>>5849612
>>5849658
now im curious
>>5849662
try doing this?
https://youtu.be/CK-0PhiTAL8
>>5849628
passing as an unattractive fem is doable
>>5849664
usually these things make me uncomfortable but this guy just has this sorta charisma to him and he actually puts things in a scenario perspective so it doesn't feel "pointless." thank you for this.
>>5849664
>take good care of it
haha it's ~10 years too late for that, especially with scalp eczema for incurable chronic dandruff
why bother
>>5849679
>>5849679
you're telling me
>>5849660
hey, I have some passing questions,
help anonh2016@gmail
>>5849682
best taste in KotOR hair confirmed
>>5849679
You should probably just kill yourself bro
>>5849689
no thank you sir
>tfw hon tits
>>5849710
>I'm sick of the openly revolted reactions strangers have to my face ;-;
gotta take pride in being a walking trigger ;^)
>>5849697
I would if I looked like this
>>5849707
fucking pay attention to me i just posted my boobs what else do you want
>>5849720
theyre better than mine.
>>5849720
I always have luck getting drunk and saying I'm going to kill myself.
>>5849724
gotta have a plan
going to kill myself when I hit 40, no ifs/ands/butts, not like I'm contributing to society anyway
>>5849535
Rip me
Romance! Adventure! Train Car!
>>5849742
your maximum was at 223, which means you can do it, just keep at it
>>5849742
What program is that lol?
>>5849754
mhh trains~
Sitting on the bus makes me so self-conscious about my shoulders. "Blah, blah, 17 inches isn't bad" but you know? It is. Wide shoulders don't fit next to one-another, and extend out into the aisle, impeding traffic. Public transport is not designed to accommodate masculine bodies in any way. It is a very uncomfortable reminder of something I can't change.
>>5849769
These seats are made so they can accomodate relatively bulky men. Shoulders under the male average aren't going to fill the air.
>>5849742
>tfw get female pitch on this app every time but still sound like a guy because I can't into resonance
>>5849769
ikr being trans sucks, pic related, my facial proportions traced, RIP my future
>>5849777
What's the average?
>>5849765
Voice Pitch Analyzer
>tfw the only vidya you've actually played in two months is 2 hours of Undertale
>tfw everyone says you look like the double of your mom
>tfw your mom looks like a hon
Fuck
>>5849764
did it a few more times and my minimum was always 68-71
that's not good right
>>5849795
>tfw okay with living as a cross dressing faggot
>>5849795
But how do you escape the cruel bitterness of reality?
>>5849777
You may have better designed public transit than I do. That wouldn't be surprising. Seats here are roughly 15.5" across.
>>5849808
you blow. :'P
>>5849813
meow meow meow pet my tummy
you are all disgusting faggots
>>5849803
(thankfully I'd saved my trip somewhere)
I spend most of my free time cuddling, reading and spending inordinate amounts of money in cafes.
Although I do kinda want to see if there's anything relatively fantasy-ish worth playing more than 5 minutes before uninstalling.
>>5849816
You and I have something in common then
>>5849801
its not bad, you have the potential, its all about just constantly using it and it gets better over time
AYY LMAO
>tfw ywn be a kitten
>your only responsibilities wont just be eating, pooping, getting pet, doing silly cat things, and not attacking people
Chaser sent me this says their bf (gay) has instructed the likes of suporn and chettawut Lol and sent me this link seems pretty legit desu
https://www.thailandmedicalvacations.com/srs-surgery.html
>>5849822
ayyy lmao
i hope one day when I pass and get a qt gf, one night after we've been cuddling and gone to sleep in each other's arms and we're just completely in love with eachother, that theres a gas leak during the deepest part of our sleep and we both die peacefully, holding eachother
post ur dream death
>>5849829
this post is so gay that I got aids
>>5849829
Thats selfish desu
My dream is that I die after having a dream that I cis and go through all life stages as cis I'm so happy my heart explodes and I die with no memory of looking like a man.
>>5849829
I used to think that way before I actually truly fell in love with someone. I still kinda think like that but my yandere fantasies aren't as pronounced or a forethought anymore. I used to be a super crazy subby yandere to the max though. As they say though , you can only ever really be yandere for one person ever if that's how your brain works. Sometimes I'm glad I'm not like that anymore but sometimes I wish I still was.
>>5849815
>>5849817
What kind of fantasy do you like?
>>5849826
That's scary x
>>5849838
are you getting jaw surgery?
>>5849843
Fuck you faggot nothing I said has anything to do with that respond to the post not be a fucking troll.
>>5849829
Anything that makes the headline everywhere in the world. Bonus points if it's memorable enough to make it into history books, even as a footnote.
>>5849847
>when the hon takes the bait just right
>>5849850
>>5849841
Heres hoping he kills me woot i may have found the serial killer to rip my black heart out of my chest and send me to hell where I belong.
>>5849847
calm ur e rage
>>5849820
you're a kind person.
I like you
<3
>>5849850
I always take bait talking to me is like talking to a three year old your better off not doing it.
>>5849847
Take a chill pill, Jay Leno :D:D:D:D
i miss my internet friend
>>5849853
>transbians are the fun police
who's not surprised
>>5849857
Zip it gay Leno
>>5849856
if u were a fish ud be a filet cus u take the bait
>>5849860
I'm closer to a gay man than transbian sir
I have arrived from Zeta Reticuli
>>5849852
I just want a big strong handsome man to hatefuck and choke me to death is that too much to ask?
>>5849868
Do you want a big black bull?
>>5849869
Elaborate please
please stop talking about coal burning
>tfw i have been on /mtfg/ for a year. Tinychat, kageshi, irc and i havent made a single friend
>>5849871
>tfw I beat you and got praised in dalaran by legions of magic women all telling me that I was so manly :(
![4226236-1294146410148[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/OzgCy1A.jpg "4226236-1294146410148[1].jpg")
>>5849870
>>5849872
transbians don't deserve friends
>>5849872
who
>>5849874
same
Anyways got to go to hell...I mean work she you peeps later here's hoping my computer electrocutes me.
>Ffs consult in a week
Now only a matter of months until I can spit on hons, cuck guys with gf's, and emasculate dudebros
>>5849855
could not be further from the truth
>>5849841
I'm not even sure I know.
I'm fine with both the incredibly generic and the fresh and off the wall. Chances are I'll get DAI as a timewaster for when I'm recovering or something.
>>5849886
dont spit on me i don't want YOUR germs
>>5849886
idk about you but from seeing a 100% failure rate of all the people here who've gotten FFS I'd say the chances of that are pretty low, also it won't fix your BDD whatsoever
>tfw massive head but tiny body
>>5849879
Im just not cute enough, i dont deserve to have friends.
I dont use microphone.
I feel like alltfg communities are an infinite circlejerk
>>5849892
I'm fully aware it won't. However, my 20% ma'am'd rate is killing me. I'm worse off than the other hons 1 year in...
..but I get told often that I'm a pretty boy :(
I'm just having Speigel do my forehead and chin. I Dont want implants or fillers
>>5849898
>tfw 5 years hrt and 0% ma'am rate.
Make your choice, /mtfg/
>>5849900
one looks like shit, one smells like shit, one looks like a shooter, the last looks like my cousin.
i choose asexual.
>>5849900
ill take the real human bean all day
