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Meep >>5831374
>>5833033
hold me it's a long way down
no make it yuri or at least aap
>>5833033
This thread is pretty gay.
>>5833036
> Fleshlights.
Eww, fuck no.
Butt stuff, desu.
XD wats ur fave yaoi mine is boku no pico
>tfw anon knows how to make you sick and hurt you now
>constantly blaming you for bad mouthing yume/adri/gem every time anon does it
>>5833050
Trip on faye
>you will never pass
Kill me
Red is busy having a dick up her butt since finding a bf last week. But i hope she breaks up since i miss her clyp.it and furry posts.
who here has the /mtfg/ wheel of bullying?
I need to know who to bully
>>5833050
faye rn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzTuBuRdAyA
>>5833053
Yes I do because they actually are lol
>>5833047
Look for stuff that's slim and has a flared base. Stick to silicone from reputable manufacturers like Tantus. Glass and steel can work too but are not the best place to start. Get a thick water based lube, I like sliquid sassy.
Magic wands can sometimes work despite dysphoria. Applied to perineum or through tucked panties works for some people.
>tfw will never make this for kayla's birthday
I wanna passsssss
>>5833066
LMFAO
>>5833043
ur pretty gay
>>5833066
>tfw will never buy a gun for elliot's birthday
:-(
>>5833066
>>5833066
>2 stars
>>5833070
To the gas chamber.
>>5833072
u get em girl
>>5833043
T-thank
>>5833073
don't call her that :(
>>5833067
i wanna pass away in your arms.
please respond
>>5833058
>tfw bitch and moan about no boob growth in months
>a week of binge eating ice cream later
>can now push boobs together and am a finger's width away from having cleavage
i know what i must do... nothing but whole, organic milk for milkshakes, heavy cream in everything, ice cream constantly. i must become the dairy queen
>>5833084
Or be faye and take breastmilk pills to have your boobs bigger as long as you take that shit.
>tfw you hop out of the shower and instead of seeing a girl you see a big eyed boy
Sigh...
>>5833079
>her
wtf.....
>>5833080
I want head pats, a friend, to pass and a good dicking.
>>5833083
You can bully me if you need somebody to take your bullying urges out on...
>>5833084
Reading this in Cr1tikal's voice made the post 10/10
>>5833093
i offer all of those things.
>>5833093
>>5833097
oh god i didnt read the last one. literally ntr.
>>5833092
Get ffs already?
>>5833096
i like u
>>5833092
Pssh, you're seeing things again; boys have flat chests and penises, you have neither.
>>5833094
you'd do that?
you'd really take the place of the designated trip to be bullied?
talk about attention whoring Joan you bitch ass nigga
I DEMAND A GF
>>5833110
Yes~, call me an attention whore more~
>>5833112
What do you have to offer?
everyone bully Joan
>>5833097
Girls can't give a good dicking.
>>5833101
;A;
>>5833105
Ffs doesn't fix a broken brain. The problem exists in my head.
>>5833108
But my face ;_;
>>5833091
do they work? what pills?
>>5833119
is that an invitation to try?
>>5833123
Gt's cant satisfy me, probably.
>>5833120
BDD
>>5833131
bitch please i will ease all of my tension and t-rage by fucking your brains out. i am the manliest manhon in the universe.
>>5833120
It'd help you pass and you could hypothetically feel better?
>>5833096
Critikal is so fucking hot i don't understand how he's this attractive and i'm rarely attracted to guys
>>5833115
idk we can cuddle and stuff (i really really want to cuddle)
im a little of cute sometimes i have to get my hair fixed
i have small boobs you could play with if you want
>>5833120
Have you considered seeing someone about getting evaluated for or treated for body dysmorphic disorder? I don't know if something like cognitive behavioral therapy and/or medications would help, but I really hope you can at least try something...
>>5833131
not all of us have small gt's~
>>5833135
plz
>>5833120
see a therapist
>>5833136
ffs does not fix self image problems even if you pass
>>5833146
sorry i'm too disgusting for you anyways.
>>5833033
>literally this thread
>>5833114
So needy! I hope that you're doing well. Haven't seen much of you since you were conflicted over whether you were trans. Have you come to a conclusion? Regardless of conclusion or lack thereof, are you a less conflicted attention whore?
>>5833152
Shit
Could you ask your parents for some money?
>>5833154
BDD to is a meme :)
>>5833157
i love aap so much
>>5833144
That's pretty agp
>>5833156
I'm too disgusting to leave my neet cave.
>>5833163
idk about that
>>5833163
hi angie
>>5833168
>ywn invade lain's neetcave
nohomo
>>5833137
I wanna touch his beard desu. His voice is just so nice to listen to and he's a really funny guy.
>>5833140
You should try making your post with that first instead, you sound pretty cute and might actually get a gf if you don't just demand one~
>>5833157
>>5833152
>I pass
>Constantly talking about looking like a boy
Alright then, keep on fishing
>>5833176
>you sound pretty cute
:3
>>5833173
Hey baby ;)
>tfw people make fun of your accent
I'll just kill myself
>>5833175
Sounds lewd.
Ahhhh I still can't sleep its 5am and I'm sober now. I need to stop drinking.
>>5833183
>cute is 'making fun'
:'(
>>5833177
Fuck you
>>5833162
No I can't
>>5833187
Surely you could
They're your parents, they'd be concerned about your wellbeing if you told them
am i the only one here who is completely happy with how i look? it's reinforced by the positive attention i get from complete strangers, but without it i would still know i look good.
>>5833171
Yeah but me, brad and ffs anon have showed how we all still like like men
>>5833186
>retarded sounding yuro shitter with male voice is cute
pls
>>5833193
reee
>>5833181
Good luck anon, I'm sure you'll find a nice girl soon!
>>5833193
You probably don't have BDD or a similar form of illness and are a content person
I'm glad for you anon
>>5833187
I don't do charity work
>>5833206
>>5833215
>I'm not fishing
wew lad
>>5833215
ill make you swallow my precum soaked shotgun~
>>5833198
idk what kind of men your use to seeing but I can guarantee you all three look like girls, ffs anons hairline is worse after surgery tho that sucks
>>5833215
I will die laughing while you will die trying ;)
>>5833215
Well then
I don't know what to say except I hope you feel better soon
Hey, I have a lot of questions.
I'm 18 MtF, pre-hormones. I want to lose a bit of weight to help with passing, I'm already pretty good, but I feel like I could do better. So I started dieting and exercising last week. I started at 150 pounds and 5'11." My diet is mostly cutting out meats and adding some fruits and veggies. I exercise with a structured 20-30 minute jog every day, on top of a lot of walking and manual labor as part of my normal routine. I lost 5 pounds in the one week so far, and I want to hit a target weight of 130 pounds. Already my parents are noticing and joking-not joking about me being anorexic. I find I am actually less hungry over time as the diet goes on, I think it is because I am eating more wholesome food and my stomach is shrinking. So my questions are as follows:
>I am losing weight at a healthy rate?
>Is my target rate healthy?
>If these aren't healthy, what would be healthy?
>What should my diet be?
>What should my exercise routine be?
>What do I do to get my parents off my back?
>>5833205
Male voices are handsome not cute.
What is the best type of dress to wear to prom? I want to be wearing all black.
>>5833215
>kindly swallow a shotgun you dense, irritating fuck.
the irony is fascinating.
>>5833232
tfw too ugly to be handsome or cute.
tfw just entirely disgusting freakish manhon.
>>5833238
i k t f
>have to wear baggy hobo clothes all my life because girl clothes look ridiculous on me
>>5833204
i think i have high self-esteem. is that rare for a trans person?
>>5833246
>asking a cis male about trans issues.
>>5833230
Come back another time kid. The shitposting is real rn
>>5833246
rare indeed
just look around, you'll see very few here actually happy, even passers
Very lucky
>>5833230
>>I am losing weight at a healthy rate?
Probably, I lost a lot of weight pretty fast and didn't have any real problems
>>Is my target rate healthy?
No, at your height 133 should be your minimum weight.
>>What do I do to get my parents off my back?
Kill your parents.
>tfw ur a girl
:)
>>5833230
First week is not sustainable because it's mostly water weight. Don't expect that rate to continue.
>>5833253
One day ;_;
>>5833250
yes you would, because you're petty and need validation.
>tfw decent body to transition
>tfw still looking young even when im 24
>tfw i get misgender sometimes in boymode
a small face surgery, laser hair removal and hrt and it would work great, if i wasnt poorn and extremly depressed
i hate this depression so fucking much, i cant do anything other than to spend all day and night crying in my room
>>5833250
it sounds like you want to so maybe you should do just that. there's your solution.
>>5833259
you already are a girl and you always were a girl
>>5833152
Well, BDD is apparently relatively treatable by therapy and/or meds, but both of those would require at least some money and I couldn't guarantee that you in particular would respond... Yeah, though, that's unfortunate. It's probably a good idea to try your best to question your automatic thoughts about how you look to yourself and others and assess when they're based in rational thinking and when they're not, that seems to be one of the more important things that helps with cognitive behavioral therapy type things...
>>5833222
I think it's due to the features we hate and how we compare ourselves to cis women
>>5833262
Are you... Me?
>>5833262
Get on hrt if you're not already on it. It can help your face some and it some people get some reduction of facial hair.
>>5833266
But I don't look like a girl at all.
>>5833271
Nice meme
>>5833275
but you're not me. :')
>>5833261
If I wanted validation I'd go out and fuck somebody like a normal human being.
>>5833265
>projecting
>tfw 6'1 broad shoulders
Should I just end it now /mftg/?
>>5833277
why are they calling you cis male? i'm assuming you're not?
>>5833283
I'm not a cis male
It's just a shitty meme
>>5833283
>they post anime and use a tripcode
>they must be trans
>>5833281
i believe it's you who projected while saying "neck yourself' while crying and whining about being depressed though. again the irony is evident here.
I've told my gf twice I've detransitioned she just said "you missed one pill oh nooooo, shut your ass up"
>ask boyfriend if we're gonna have kids
>he says yes, i ask how
>he says we'll have to just keep trying
>>5833281
>projecting
Maybe you should look in the mirror again.
>>5833293
he's a keeper
>>5833288
Tell me how I'm not trans?
>>5833158
Haha, hi Akaka! Well, I think that's how I've been before I started talking about that and I still am, but oh well; I'm not stopping transitioning or anything at least, haha. And yeah, I've not been on /mtfg/ as much in the past week or so, but it's been for a positive reason, hehe; I've been spending more time talking with someone on Skype chat so that's eaten into my /mtfg/ shitposting time. :)
>>5833274
i rarely feel like i have any chance of ever passing, im not on hrt, i dont have a job and havent find any in a lot of time and my parents are extremly homophobic
>>5833287
>meme
way to deflect the truth, bootlicker. you are really good at being a parasite to the personality traits of elanna.
>>5833292
you're not allowed to detransition. shut up.
>>5833282
No, Gwendolyn Christie is very pretty
>>5833293
>tfw no nice bf
>tfw no pass
>>5833292
faye pls dont
I love u
>>5833272
post pic
>>5833296
get on hrt, you've been memeing about being trans for forever without getting off your lazy ass and doing anything about it so noone believes you anymore when you say you're trans
>>5833291
That's not how projecting works.
>>5833282
Why kill yourself when you've got the perfect build to be a cute amazonian waifu
>>5833298
>parents are extremly homophobic
You're 24, that shouldn't matter at all. Hell I started hrt a week or two before I turned 18 while living with my parents and I initially thought they wouldn't be accepting.
>i rarely feel like i have any chance of ever passing
If you use that as a reason to put off getting on hrt you really will have no hope of passing.
>>5833236
Have you considered a black dress?
>>5833293
I think I might let myself get lost in the charm of a boy life that. Really happy for you.
>>5833292
are you actually going to detransition or is this a joke again?
>>5833292
Stfu faye
Fuck. Sorry...
>>5833313
that's exactly how it works, by projecting their suicidal tendencies onto others.
>>5833311
>leave chasers alone
why should i listen to your stupidity because of your bias towards being validated by him?
>>5833308
So anyone who isn't on hormones isn't trans?
>>5833308
>what is australias retarded healthcare system
>and implying you had your transition figured out at her age
eat shit
>>5833315
I've been thinking about it...
Seriously though, what style of dress works best on trans girls?
>>5833297
That's great! Shoot. Now I'm jealous of everyone. Maybe I'll try dating again next month, instead of waiting for June.
Unreal how lonely I get these days...
>>5833270
thats pretty normal, i still hate my jaw even after ffs so I understand what you mean
>>5833321
Telling someone to kill themselves isn't projecting. If I say that it's plainly obvious that you wish for the sweet release of death whilst being a sad empty depressed fuck myself, it's likely that I'm actually the one who wants to die. Now if I tell you to kill yourself, that's just because I'd honestly prefer it if you just killed yourself.
Kill yourself.
>>5833322
Kys
>>5833323
are you refusing to take hormones or are you in the process of getting there? two different things obviously?
>>5833311
> I know they're not real, I've very thoroughly established that they're not. On a rational level I see that I'm having some sort of dysmorphia, but that doesn't change what I see and the emotional response that follows.
Right, I know that; doing that sort of thing does seem to help get the emotional response under control as well, though.
>>5833331
you're obviously projecting.
>>5833322
I'm a chaser now?
>>5833323
its been FOREVER and you have done NOTHING twoards your transition but sit here and whine about it, maybe if you actually put effort into something related to it people would believe you
>>5833324
shes really not in a bad place
>>5833326
she could be on hrt within a few weeks, and have it ordered tomorrow if she actually cared enough to do it, but she just doesnt and is fine living as a guy
>>5833340
tell me you're not, since your word has so much weight to it. you're literally spending the time you could be using to look for employment to shitpost on a tranny general.
>>5833313
>You're 24, that shouldn't matter at all. Hell I started hrt a week or two before I turned 18 while living with my parents and I initially thought they wouldn't be accepting.
how shouldnt that matter?
they're paying my college and all my life, im midway in college because i get sick very often, which my parents pay too
Fuck it, I'm out for a tonight, I'm not in the mood to deal with this.
>>5833329
Go for it! Although actually I haven't done anything to deserve this, she's the one who went out of her way to contact me, hehe; I seriously don't deserve this kind of luck, but anyways I hope you end up being equally lucky. :)
>>5833327
Break your features down.
How high/low is your natural waist?
How broad are your shoulders? Hips?
What kind of breasts have you got?
How do your legs look?
Etc..., etc...
There's certainly general things, but this is your prom, right? Get the perfect dress for you, not some generic trans girl.
>>5833336
true but
>implying every transgirl transitioned younger in worse situations
>implying that if you dont immediately transition the second you know you're trans than you arent
>implying that shes a man just because shes afraid of how her friends and family will react
>>5833347
Neck yourself faggot.
>>5833324
Didn't notice I was making a friend distressed in a conversation cause missed the last half of a sentence and just feel bad now. IDK I'm one of those people who just feels like they have to say sorry a million times. Figured I'd just dump it here cause people usually ignore my posts anyways. I don't think they hate me I just feel like an idiot.
>>5833355
projections tend to be very transparent.
>>5833351
i specifically said "some of us".
making zero effort towards it is pretty telling that they aren't trans.
what is self-medding?
>>5833355
>You can take hrt without your parents knowing.
they will find out eventually.
also i take blood exams every month, cant they find out by that?
i still have many years in this house to take a risk
>>5833356
everything cool?
>>5833355
>What world do you live in where being trans is so glamorous someone would want to pretend to be trans
ugly chasers
>>5833359
My dad hasn't noticed anything in 3 years.
Thought those anons had finally stopped shitting on me but I guess not
I'll go back to being anon
>>5833348
Your being a sweetheart probably had a lot to do with it. But thank you for the well-wishing. I'll need it.
>>5833369
back to the chase on anon
>>5833369
>guess people would've changed their views towards cis male chasers overnight.
>guess not.
>guess i'll keep shitting up threads.
then you wonder why we want you gone. spineless as fuck.
>>5833369
not replying to them also works, they only shit on you because you react
>>5833359
>they will find out eventually.
You can hide it for quite awhile.
>i take blood exams every month
What for? And do you need to show your parents the results?
>i still have many years in this house to take a risk
And supposing you don't die you'll spend plenty more years living in your body and living with the consequences of your decision to start transition now or later. At the age of 24 you're approaching that cut-off point for potential passability in the future. Every day you're not on hrt is a day you'll be more masculine than the prior. If you're really trans the longer you put off transitioning the more you'll regret it.
>>5833342
Have you ever thought that some people just hate themselves enough, or are just plain so depressed, that they dont immediately jump out there and do the thing they want most deep down?
If kuppys not trans then I'm not either, nor just about anyone who transitioned after puberty
>>5833358
besides the one line I mentioned australia I was speaking with the assumption that shed self med, which she would need a mailbox and job for unless she came out and her parents were accepting
and shes young and still in school so if they dont then shes fucked for a while
>>5833369
Next time you come back you should probably say that you've started HRT, whether or not you really have; that seems to be what they give you the most shit about. Although I'm sure they'll just find something else to give you grief about, I don't really understand it.
>>5833380
This weekend I'll be free to look for a job
There's your answer ok
>>5833033
I actually can't believe I fucking did this I'm so retarded.
>be me
>16 y/o
>made a gp appointment
>was going to ask for a referral to a gender therapist
>got scared and couldn't stop thinking about it
>appointment rolls round and I just tell him some stupid shit about not being able to concentrate
>month later
>mind keeps drifting to hurting myself or thinking about what everyone would think if i killed myself
>enjoying college
>have great friends
>im just afraid of what my parents and what my friends would say, and I honestly just fucking can't bare it
I really need some advice, I'm getting pretty sick of living like a fucking hermit and not being able to function because I'm scared of what my peers will think of me.
>>5833390
okay sorry for asking?
>>5833378
i'm sure it has absolutely nothing to do with him being ignorant and literally unwilling to do anything to improve. notice they always deflect and straight up "leave" when confronted with criticisms that are valid?
>>5833386
you can get those things while still in school. he's just literally refusing to put in effort.
>>5833388
>you should be a pathological liar like kayla
oh, too late to suggest that.
>>5833386
i want to suck on your bulge and swirl your girl balls around in my mouth
>>5833397
tmi
>>5833367
I thought my dad hadn't noticed for the six months I was taking hormones without telling him; it turned out that he knew from like a month in but just wanted to stay out of my business. Probably this is going to be the same story with all my friends when I decide to come out to them and they tell me 'yeah dude, we know'. Why don't people say anything? ;_;
>check my blood tests
>T levels are within guy levels
so should i kill myself now or later? im already on 200mg spiro
>>5833401
now
Post a selfie of yourself right now.
>>5833401
>spiro
there's your problem. :')
>>5833401
Never. Give it time and keep working with your doctor, it's gonna be okay.
>>5833401
Were they absurdly high before starting or are you just resistant to spiro for some reason?
>>5833400
Only thing my dad has said was something about how certain things can mess up your hormone levels.
Sugar pills
>>5833391
You don't need to come out the moment you get on hrt, if you really are 16 you could be starting at a better point than most of us here in this thread did. Like I said to the other anon up there, starting hrt doesn't mean coming out right away, and the longer you go without starting the more you'll regret it.
>>5833401
If you're self-medding, you might not be getting a full dose, and could also consider ordering a stronger AA. If you're doing official, then idk, if your doc is willing to prescribe stronger AA you can ask, otherwise your T should eventually drop with time.
>>5833411
>admits they're tripdropping to shitpost
they are literally the definition of spineless.
>>5833411
mm salty girl balls
>>5833403
Is it time for a new tier-list already?
>>5833421
i was just pranking. spiro is fine.
>>5833419
Are you cute?
>>5833423
Grace is cute.
>>5833414
are you seriously going to make fun of someone for dropping trip because anons are attacking her and making her feel like garbage?
what the fuck is wrong with you
>>5833425
Trip on Grace
>>5833426
>trying to talk reason to them
>>5833426
"hey maybe you should actually use your time to do something productive towards transitioning instead of crying about your epic dysphoria feels on 4chan for hours every single day."
"no"
>>5833421
>ill try~
N E V E R. You're absolutely not allowed to. No "I'll try", I wanna hear "Okay Gracey, I won't kill myself and I'm gonna keep going and be the best girl ever"
>>5833423
>>5833428
>>5833425
Grace is cute. (For a boy I don't come close to passing yet lol)
hormones don't do absolutely anything (unless you already look fem before)
>>5833428
I'm not Grace.
>>5833432
Good thing I already looked fem then.
>>5833350
Oh, sorry for the late response, IDK anything about dresses really.
I am 5'11" with hips about 2'6" high
My shoulders are 16" across
No tits
Average legs, kinda' thick for a girl.
If I posted a pic would an anon help me?
>>5833433
Okay Grace
using this place to fill that big gaping whole of uncertainty that comes from realizing you're trans and suddenly extremely alone is dangerous, it's like getting into a relationship when you aren't stable and don't love yourself
>>5833430
Hey fuck you
I wasn't even crying about dysphoria today, I made no mention of my own personal dysphoria and you still come and attack me
Piss off
>>5833432
Tru
>>5833441
>implying you should only be judged on your current actions and not past actions you've made no efforts to change since.
that's not how it works, sir.
>>5833433
Whoever you are, thank you. <3
>>5833439
Trip on grace
>>5833426
i would like rub your tiny girl balls and lick the saltiness off of the skin inch by inch when you hadn't showered
>>5833434
Good for you, I am happy for you
[rages internally]
>>5833062
>when I'm detrans that's the real me
>when I'm detrans that's the real me
>bae
>>5833449
http://iwitnessbullying.org/
>>5833449
>>5833397
>>5833417
Please seek professional help.
>>5833453
I'm not even trolling. I was always mistaken for a girl when I was younger and throughout teenage years. I had long hair then too. I wonder if I'm one of the cases where I'm legit meant to be a girl but something triggered the Y chromosome instead. Yeah, it's nice to pass flawless but it's kind of annoying too. Since I'm pretty I get too much unwanted attention, sometimes I just want to be fucking left alone..
>tfw fleas biting me cause my cat has fleas
>>5833469
Get your cat treated already geez, how do you think your cat feels about it?
>>5833444
I'm sorry that I'm a pathetic lazy shit who won't get of their ass and work towards their desired goals.
There, now that I've fucking admitted it will you fuck off and leave me alone?
>>5833474
no. you're literally beneath kayla in terms of progression. kayla of all people. just let that sink in.
>>5833478
At least I don't attack people for no good reason
>>5833478
Kayla fucked around for years before doing shit about her gd, and has done nothing but fuck around since taking hormones. Stop talking out your ass.
>>5833480
those are pretty good reasons. it's the same reason everyone attacks kayla for being a fucking retard.
>>5833482
I meant Kayla attacking people dipshit
>>5833466
[rage intensifies]
>tfw no muff diapergal gf
>>5833473
I've tried everything. They're like super-fleas
>craving queso dip
>have had nothing but trash food all weekend
I really shouldn't but I reaaaaaallllyyyyy want to
>>5833491
But if your body is telling you it needs something, shouldn't it get it?
>>5833491
Whenever I crave junk food but I know I really shouldn't, I imagine myself having a loud poop session on the toilet and my crush could hear me. Have some fruits instead.
Lipstick color: I hate way to many flamin hot cheerios
>>5833489
muff? like hairy?
Why is he so perfect, girls? :3
>>5833496
Whatever
I'm done talking to you
Find someone else to berate in the mean time
>>5833494
She's not pregnant?
>know your leg is hurt
>know it's going to be painful
>know you're going to go down the worst hills you can find
>know you need the adrenaline
>know you need to forget and become the next you
