FAQ:
▶What is a fem guy?
A young, androgynous guy with soft features. Mostly gay, but not all.
▶Are fem guys trans?
Some inevitably turn out trans. Some age into twunkhood and continue slutting it up on Grindr well past their mid twenties. Losers are constantly invading this thread to try and convince everyone that we're all secretly trannys. Don't fall for the tricks of those sad and miserable failures.
▶Can I be a fem guy?
Often with enough effort, yes. Masculine bone structure, height, and aging make it hard.
▶Should I go on HRT?
If you can deal with the tits and infertility, you'll look younger longer and you won't age like a man.
▶Is liking fem guys considered gay or straight?
Gay. If you're on the fence, you're bi, like a lot of people.
▶Makeup: https://masterposter.tumblr.com/post/116605714860 and /r/MakeupAddiction
▶Skincare: https://reddit.com/r/SkincareAddiction/wiki
▶Hair care: https://reddit.com/r/HaircareScience/wiki and /r/FancyFollicles
▶Skype: Post your Skype, and someone from the group will add you.
Previously: >>5816628
Has /femgen/ been getting faster lately or is is just me?
>>5827618
More crosstalk from other threads about tit skits I think. Femgen is seen as the resident experts/alternate users who people want to ask questions.
Otherwise this general barely moves.
I kind of want to know what femgen fashion looks like when it's not obviously female clothes. The most I can think is skinny jeans and kind of girly tops.
Andro haircuts that look good on long faces and heads? As low maintenance as possible
>>5827669
long hair is your only choice
>>5827748
and it's your only choice if you have a long face
>>5827748
>shorts and a t-shirt
I'm super conflicted about my legs
I hate having hairy legs but showing them off shaved seems like asking for unwanted attention.
The few times I have shown them off shaved literally no one's mentioned them. Not even people who knew me. It's probably just be being super self-conscious.
>>5827772
Just shave them and wear a cute dress. They'll see you and think god damn that man is fucking alpha. I don't want to fuck with that guy.
>>5827778
Maybe some day when HRT makes me prettier.
>>5827772
If you've done it before and no one mentioned it, why are you afraid of showing them shaved?
>>5827816
Different group of "friends".
Also potentially different shorts.
>>5827823
Everybody shaves dude
>>5827836
Yeah, they really do. There's so many reasons why a person could shave. Even if it's just personal aesthetic reasons. At this point in our society it's weird for people to point out your lack of hair.
Thanks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COrhxaJrJQE
are all fembois this autist?
>>5827899
>When he screams into the plunger
Oh god my sides
>>5827899
>are all fembois this fun?
Unfortunately not.
>>5827968
I want someone to scream in my boyhole.
>>5827535
Why does that model look like a faggy Kylo Ren?
>>5828024
http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/mark-hamill-reveals-luke-skywalker-gay-article-1.2554083
Why do I want this to be true?
>>5828043
Kylo Ren has daddy issues, his father's been iced, unless he's a necrophiliac too the only logical consequence is that he's going to be ass fucked by dear ol' Luke. Let the fanfictions roll, my friend.
Have any of you kids done modeling before?
I've got a chance to maybe give it a go and I'd like to know what it's like.
>>5828078
Luke is too sub to fuck.
Just look at how he played damsel in distress throughout ESB.
how do I fit girls' jeans? i can't figure out where they're supposed to rest and whether they don't fit right because of hips or anything else
>>5827535
That's one sexy giraffe, OP.
>>5827634
posting some not-obviously-crossdressing pics from this guy senpai
hope that helps senpai!
http://www.menshealth.com/health/3-signs-you-started-as-a-girl
>>5827535
>>5828191
>>hat over chest to hide the fact he's got boyboobs
>just skittle my shit up desu senpai
hes not on skittles and I think he'd look even better on them
>>5828355
why did this make me feel so depressed
d-don't answer that
>>5828079
lel implying i'm attractive in any way
>>5828388
It's ok anon. Me too.
>>5828251
He looks like an anime character in this one.
Reminder to join the group
https://join.skype.com/wlmWHCUgGEIU
>>5828455
no tho
>>5828464
SKINCARE AND DICKS
>>5828397
I just wanna know what it's like man
I didn't think I was attractive and all of a sudden this guy wants me to meet a scout
>>5828545
uh huh, and did he say you have to buy headshots first?
>>5828570
no?
I'm not sure I understand
I feel like you're talking shit but I don't get it
>>5828607
He's trying to warn you that it might be a scam. Be on your toes.
Am I fem enough for /femgen/ yet?
>>5828610
nah the guy I was talking to is a pretty public figure and he seems like a good dude
>>5828629
How long on T?
>>5828629
dunno what's on your neck. you're trying to pass as a girl with that hair?
>>5828629
fem enough for me to be jelly. Gotta get my ass on E
>>5828650
you do a great job with your skin. what products do you use if any?
>>5828629
how did you find a gril who likes such a feminine boy?
>>5828653
<3 It's not hard, and believe me it's worth it. I can't tell you how happy I am that I finally made the decision to transition. I've never been happier
>>5828657
Morning:
1. Cerave facial foaming cleanser during shower
2. Paula's Choice AHA toner
3. Paula's Choice Spot cleanser if any bad zits show up (usually not thanks to mones =3)
4. Cerave moisturizer
5. SUNSCREEN! At least 50spf. God, I can't tell you how important this step is. The sun is the natural enemy to our skin, and if you don't protect it you'll get wrinkles so bad later on.
Night:
Same as above without the sunscreen.
>>5828673
ohh you use a toner. i'm not looking for advice, just the products.
how did paula's choice help? why a foaming in-shower cleanser? and what specific sunscreen, anything water-based or generic?
>>5828686
Paula's Choice is a great company. They have good products, and great customer service. I'd recommend them any day.
You need to use the foaming facial cleanser to clean your skin before adding the other products. Regular bath soap isn't great for facial skin, and this is a good replacement.
I use an Elta MD Skincare "Broad-Spectrum" 46spf sunscreen. Love it. It's the only sunscreen I've ever had that doesn't leave that weird white residue on your skin like some sunscreens do.
>>5828704
I like there vit c serum helped a lot with my hyperpigmentation
>>5828704
yes but why a foaming cleanser? i'm not going to put bar soap on my face lol, i use the basic cetaphil gel cleanser morning and night. yeah paula's choice is a great company but they're expensive and a lot of products are superfluous here.
>>5828722
yeah i'm at the point where i'm running with cerave and aveeno shit. skincare isn't that expensive as a whole though; it's just trialing new products that is.
>>5827535
skype
jessica.yessy
>>5828738
tranny pls go
>>5828738
Jessica is a strange name for a man...
>>5828738
are you openly trans? we have trans in the group but that's only for the sorta non-binary-questioning-genderfuck people
>>5828742
>>5828743
>being this hostile
>>5828749
yeah most of the people who pull this shit in the chat get booted out after a few times
>>5828641
ask on /fit/ - all the models are there
>>5828789
why don't you just go on the tranny chat? i mean, this is femboy general. i find it odd that you would use a female name in your skype and want to join a chat explicitly for people who don't identify as women when there are several for those who do
>>5828758
literal hugbox
>>5828793
>>5828795
I'm not even the anon that wanted into the chat, but I don't have to be to know that you're being stupidly hostile to a random person that wants to hangout in the chat. As long as they aren't disruptive, what could it hurt to have someone new in the chat, trans or not?
>>5828801
Trannies go to the femgen skype group for honest passing advice from time to time, mostly from the group leader. It's hardly a hugbox.
>>5828673
>made the decision to transition
Don't call it that. We aren't supposed to be trans and hormone use doesn't automatically make us trans.
>>5828831
I'm trans, and I did transition though. I never said he/she was trans, and I never said that taking hormones makes you trans...
>>5828193
smaller crotch so you have to tuck if you want perfect fit
>>5828673
is this the moisturizer you use?
http://www.amazon.co.uk/CeraVe-Facial-Moisturizing-Lotion-PM/dp/B00N43VZEA/ref=pd_sim_194_4?ie=UTF8&dpID=31FDHl2cJ9L&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL160_SR160%2C160_&refRID=1P88EHA6S5BZWMKQR5G3
>>5828722
>no tranny cone tits, so wonder if dude is all natty?
the way it should be. a femboy on estrogen is a tranny. real beauty is earned through moisturizing.
>>5829185
It's all the same.
Unless you're buying the $100 bottles.
>>5828650
>collared femboy on 'mones
cute, post boyboobs
>>5828844
you're a tranny then
what are you doing here?
>>5828722
yep, no hrt, which is funny because they identify as non-binary trans
still, good reference for fem fashion
>>5829226
Sure~
unsee: /bupimado/
spamfilter won't let me post the link.
>>5829227
Yeah, I just wanted to post for fun. I'm a bit of a masochist, and thought people would hit me a bit harder when I posted a pic. Then they started asking for skincare products, so I stayed. Hope that's okay~
>>5829258
aw okay I was hoping for boyboobs :/
tho I'm into transgirls too, just other femboys most of all, so looking good!
>>5829234
>no hrt
that's makes him the ultimate femboy
>>5827535
Does Van still live in Portland?
>>5829282
>I was hoping for boyboobs :/
o-oh ;~;
sorry to dissappoint you, s-senpai
>>5829305
it's a good pic tho and good girlboobs
I just like the boyishness of my fellow femboys and didn't see you'd said you're trans
>Regardless of age, men have a higher collagen density than women.
>Because collagen content is directly related to the signs of skin aging, it has been said a woman’s skin is about 15 years older than a man’s of the same age.
EVERYBODY POST YOUR BOYBOOBS!!!! (doesnt have to be nekkid)
http://pasteboard.co/23ZqCyCm.gif
this was this morning just before the bf took me for morning walkies <3
oh and also gonna see my mom today for the first time since starting hrt, not sure how/whether to break it to her lol
How do people deal with masculine shoulders?
>>5829353
strong shoulders can be an asset for harnessing model-esque looks senpai, maybe not the best thing foe cuteness but they make fancy jackets and stuff look cool
try wearing crop-tops like >>5829345 or wearing waist-belts with tunic tops to place emphasis on your (hopefully nicely defined) midriff region instead
Is it ok for me to be here if im on hormones and sometimes i sorta feel like a girl or want to be a girl but I hate trannies and i dont want to be one
>>5829373
It's ok if you're ok with it. You gotta make peace with yourself, m8. If taking mones makes you happy or thinking of yourself as a girl makes you happy, go for it.
>>5829373
sure senpai, that's basically 30% of the general after all. myself included. I just hope being a feminine boy is enough to sate the dysphoria long-term ;-; I don't want to be a repulsive freak
>>5829382
I'm a boy, i know that, i know it's dumb but like... In my head, let's sayi plan out what im going to do today, i imagine a girl doing it
Didnt really start until like half a year of hormones but it hasnt gone away and it makes me feel like a delusional tranny
>>5829388
>takes hormones without having dysphoria
>gets dysphoria
This is what people were warning you about...
daily reminder that not all skittles are good, some are great
>CPA has been found to bind non-selectively to the opioid receptors, albeit very weakly relative to its other actions
>It has been suggested that activation of opioid receptors could have the potential to explain the side effect of sedation sometimes seen at high doses with CPA
>>5829388
don't overthink it senpai
you can just be a cute person who is on hrt and not bother with beating yourself up over arbitrary details
what you're feeling is sorta the result of the tumblr mindset of putting increasingly specific labels on everyone so suddenly you're wondering whether you're a gay transfeminine genderfluid or a straight stargender demigirl
it's all dumb bullshit at the end of the day, just make yourself feel comfortable in your body by changing it with hormones or w/e and mix and match your presentation however you feel suits you best
>>5829398
It's not dysphoria
I wanted to be a girl since like forever but obviously i knew i was a boy and i should just be a boy. Skittles were cuz i doubted myself a lot and i had to try, it was like a last ditch effort, and they boosted the fuck out of my self esteem/image so here i am
I'd rather deal with feeling like a girl sometimes but being a boy over the anxiety hell that is not taking the skittles and facing getting rugged and masculine as fuck
>>5827535
nice job op,
van went down tranny path, but then aborted
and became successful andro model
>>5829406
Lol no i dont wonder if im genderfluid or any of that bullshit, by sometimes i feel that way, i meant it doesnt bother me all the time
I like your other points though... It doesnt really matter what i am. Thanks anon
>>5829407
>I wanted to be a girl since like forever
>I should just be a boy
should... why?
Like, I know I want to be a boy but sometimes I want to be a girl too and don't want fit into the 'man' standards, despite what everyone tells me I 'should' be,
But I wouldn't want to be a full-time woman either. Im pretty comfy as a boy, just want to be more androgynous.
I dont support the 'trans in denial' meme, but maybe its more serious for you?
>>5829448
Because, thats who i am, i gotta be realistic here. Im not the kind of guy that can drop tens of thousands on surgery, change my clothes and say to everybody "hey im a girl now"
My ego is too fragile for that shit. Also im kinda hoping it will go away with age.
I don't mind being a boy anymore, im ok with myself as i am. I have no intention of transitioning or whatever so im just a boy, not mtf trans
>>5829452
man you're a weak boy
but I understand your feeling
>>5829452
same desu
>>5829452
I think most of us become comfortable in our skin as we mature,
and for those that can never find peace, well there's always transitioning
>>5829234
>>5829288
>Giant chin, nose, brow. Small eyes. Dyed facial hair.
>tumblr snowflake gender
>ultimate feminine boy
Nah he looks like one of the crazies from tumblr. Doesn't have the neoteny either so hardly fem or a boy.
Better a sane qt on meds than a weird man from tumblr I say.
>>5829506
qt af,
I don't see anyone who isn't a supermodel rocking it like him
>>5829509
As I imagined he looks much better with normal hair than with purple bs tmblr style
>>5829509
Boy clothes but looking like a girl >>> girl clothes and looking like a tumblr snowflake man
>>5829519
>gender stereotypes
smhtbhondesu
>>5829518
That chin & six o'clock shadow tho
>>5829522
>Looking like a girl on boy clothes and calling yourself a boy = gender stereotypes
>man in dress say the clothes make him a strong womyn= smashing stereotypes
Uhh... Top route sure seems a lot more tasteful.
>>5829509
>be tumblrfluid degenerate
>order shirt from this person's store because I'm autistic as fuck
>comes with free stickers for the website
>stick one up on my door 'cause I'm out to my flatmates (duh, they can tell by looking at me) and idk maybe they'd be curious
flashforward several months
>parents, who I'm not out to and always had to act masc around, come up to visit
>hide all trace of fem stuff from my room
>let them in
>realise while talking to them that I forgot about that fucking sticker on the door
flashforward several MORE months
>visit parents for the weekend this one time
>go out for dinner
>need to look something up, borrow my dad's phone
>first autocomplete term when typing in the first letter is the store URL from that fucking sticker
>no idea whether he just briefly glanced at it and thought it was a random online clothes vendor or whether he delved into it and realised what a degenerate I am
lesson learned, kids- don't be an autist like me :/
>>5828629
dude... holy shit. you're amazing.
>>5829526
cause its been long accepted for women (or 100% passable estrogen boys) to wear whatever the fuck they want
while guys are not allowed to be fem and wear anything fancy without being called fags and freaks
>>5829544
Would actually explain why the board gushes over jay but gets mad at clothes guy
>>5829503
And for those who can never transition, well there's always suicide
>>5829519
tastes aside, looking good in girls clothes is much harder then regular boy clothes
femboy presentation is super easy when you can pass as full fem
have you ever seen anyone who looks as good as him with facial hair and girl clothes? and without hrt?
>>5829569
That just looks horrible. Like tumblr horrible.
>>5828790
That's not a bad idea
maybe I'll try and ask in effay too, and get spammed with memes about Trunks
If you -want to be a girl- or -have always wanted to be a girl- and hate trannies because they're "freaks", you're not a femboy, you're trans, you have dysphoria, this is not the place for you, you'll regret it 10 years down the line, stop shitting up our thread. We try, constantly, to establish legitimacy, to fence off an area in this board for us feminine gays, and you keep coming in here normalizing your transsexuality. It's not just /lgbt/, it's 8ch, it's 2ch, it's IRCs, tinychats, discords, everything.
If you want advice, talk to a therapist! Too embarassed to talk to a therapist? Work on your social anxiety! It's that simple. We're not here to talk about your transness, that's /thg/. We're here to socialize with each other. It's that simple.
>>5829544
>>5829570
>cause its been long accepted for women (or 100% passable estrogen boys) to wear whatever the fuck they want while guys are not allowed to be fem and wear anything fancy
Actually, that kinda bothers me was raised in a very traditional and homophobic environment.
Maybe part of my reason for wanting to look like a girl (don't actually want to be one though) is wanting toga in those same rights they have in expression. Also, crushes on straight men.
That's all probably really unhealthy and crazy isn't it?
>>5830076
>If you -want to be a girl- or -have always wanted to be a girl- and hate trannies because they're "freaks", you're not a femboy
Don't actually want to be a girl. Just want to look girly. Aren't you falling into your own trap now?
At any rate, taking stuff to ensure your body remains fem isn't just a trans thing and there's plenty of normal guys who do that and still think of themselves as guys. You're the one undermining legitimacy by insisting everyone is Trans.
>>5830076
>and hate trannies because they're "freaks
trannys are freaks and nothing more
>>5830076
I'd like to be a fem-leaning androgynous tomboyish femboy. I don't really mind growing boobs but I'd quite like to have my working dick.
>>5830247
I don't want melons but smooth chest bumps are ok I guess.
>>5830250
so you don't want tits, okay
>>5830287
I've got a limit. I'm fine with gyno, but not tits.
>>5830247
I take estrogen cause of the whole wanting body to stay fem thing. Doesn't mean I want to be a girl or ever thought of myself as anything other than a boy. You're going with an overly broad brush and painting everyone who does that or is too feminine bodywise as trans. You're doing the delegitimization well enough on your own.
>>5830330
I didn't mention hormones anywhere in any of my posts. I did not imply that taking hormones made you trans; the post was obviously in response to the previous post about "always wanting to be a girl" because it was a direct quote.
>>5829398
you would expect the dysphoria in that case to be wrong though, you know? like
>oh shit i hate these tits and i feel like garbage
not
>oh shit i wanna be a girl more now
>>5829538
what was it, like a qr code?
he knows obviously
I give up, I'm never gonna be a girl.
I'm just gonna start hanging out here if that's ok with you all.
>Only guys near me on OKC and Grindr are old or ugly
I want to die.
>>5830990
that's fine!
all feminine person-shaped things are welcome :3
What's T-Blockers effect on a average 17 y old boy ?
Positive and negative effect pls.
>>5827840
I've been laughed at for having shaved legs in public, years ago.
>>5829506
this is why many members of the lgbt dislike trannies and outright hate femboys.
>>5831014
where did you live?
Do femboys generally get a lot of Grindr attention?
I only made an account a few days ago and I've already got 116 unread messages, and I've opened plenty of others. I'm also from a pretty small city.
>>5831008
>permanent infertility
>osteoporosis
>stunted puberty
>mood swings
>loss of libido
Off the top of my head.
>>5831113
No testosterone mean mood swings ? Strange effect...
Can the D shrink ?
>>5831144
The testes will definitely shrink and the penis may atrophy to some degree.
This and the other things I mentioned don't happen to everyone, but you would be stupid to assume they won't happen to you.
>people joining the skype group and then immediately leaving
for what purpose
>>5831155
Sure, but i heard one time that didn't happen depend on your fap regularity.
>>5831179
Yes, but there's still a risk.
>>5831175
He is shy probably.
>>5831175
They join, see how degenerate you fuckers are, then leave.
>>5831198
Savage
>>5831198
>>5831198
We're less degenerate than mtfg!
>>5831389
>we're less degenerate than the people who roleplay as anime girls
That's really not saying much
>>5831113
>>stunted puberty
You grow taller bc growthplates don't seal. Unless you're throwing in estrogen.
That's why Andrej was eldar level tall.
>>5831477
Well who else do we compare ourselves to? gaygen? at least we don't trip
>>5829569
gross
>>5829569
The only thing I don't like about this one are his pointy nails.
>>5829940
why are you so bitter?
who hurt you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LV5eeEXWZyg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvDql_-md-E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kgp82Pv7o4Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxhpjAR-Wbo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mE0y1v_x7nA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VU9DltZTfWk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6inYY6JbQA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEmL3FXAQtU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8y1G-nJpPE
Thoughts on Jacob Nobles (aka Victoria Paris)?
>>5827535
Leviticus 18:22 - Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it [is] abomination.
>>5832366
the fuck?
>>5832381
but i'm straight...
>>5832366
Over the top bait, look at the way he wriggles his body around when he talks. He's trying wayy too hard to be girly
>>5832381
what about femboykind?
>>5833048
Samuel 16:7
But the Lord said to Samuel, “Do not look on his appearance or on the height of his stature, because I have rejected him. For the Lord sees not as man sees: man looks on the outward appearance, but the Lord looks on the heart.”
>>5833068
So if the Lord looks at my malnourished heart instead of my pale, lanky 5'8 body, he's already rejected me?
Was I not good enough for him? Does he want me to go sub-110 or do more squats? Or do I not go deep enough on him? He's not communicating; it's not my fault if I don't know what he wants in a relationship.
>>5833111
I'm not the anon that posted the Leviticus scripture, I posted this in an attempt to help. I take it as "It doesn't matter what you look like as long as you are a good person at heart."
I'm not religious either I googled Bible verses lol.
>>5833133
I think I'm a pretty nice guy, Will God ignore the whole gay thing if I tip my waitress well? And more importantly, does anyone know if he's single?
>>5833160
I personally think God is a metaphor that represents the good of humanity, and if you treat other people well, good things will come to you. Good vibes, breed moregood vibes regardless of the gender of said persons.
>>5833172
Why do so many of God's disciples reject gays then
>>5827535
>femgen male face with a female body
>>5833214
I've generally found that the followers that feel like they have to claim his name to justify their actions, are usually the ones that act the least like his followers should.
>>5833231
that's a platitude and you know it
>>5832366
I thought it ended with one video, but this is horrifying.
>>5833133
>>5833068
>>5833048
It's all irrelevant considering that everyone here sold their souls to Satan for the sake of looking pretty
>>5833333
Witnessed
but when did you guys get your offers from Satan? I've been doing this all myself and if I'm going to hell for eternity I'm gonna be angry when I get there to find out that I had to work for it.
Any other masc bodied men jealous of femboys ?
>>5833381
why are you jealous of us? we get shit from straights, other gays, trannies, minorities, foreigners, and each other.
>>5833214
Because the book they follow says so, subjectively.
I had an argument with an islamic guy where he kept saying the Quran was the word of god himself. Unprogressive behavior imo.
>>5833333
nice quads
Evil is everywhere, it's not like being fem is a particularly evil deed.
>>5833452
get your checkers checked anon
>>5833460
>Quints
My eyes are weird
>>5833438
Being pretty is worth it. I will never be pretty and feminine.
What ever happened to Niq?
>>5833381
yes. trying to diet away the muscles right now ._.
Hey femgen, how you been
I've been thinking of cutting my hair
and its pretty long now, how do I take care of it?
It's really thick, i comb it sometimes, it tangles easily
>>5833898
I really hope it doesn't take that long for me. I've been feeling the sings that it's working for a while now, and have lost a little bit from what I can tell, AND I didnt have that much to lose to begin with.
Femboy-mode summer, here I come!
>>5833893
post pics
I've no hair expertise tho, my hair is nothing but trouble so I cut them short like very summer then grow again till ~shoulder length
>>5833954
if you are on mones and undereat it should be easier, your body can't support muscle mass on low test
>>5833998
doing the undereating part, but can't get hormones :(
So /femgen/ what is your opinion on electrolysis/laser? Do you prefer to shave?
>>5834056
dont forget to do cardio and sleep less too!
>>5834062
My hair is like steel wool and no amount of makeup could cover my beard shadow. Electro is my only savior from this hell.
I would consider myself to be a "femgay"
>>5834084
If you take E, did you start Electro before or after?
>>5834132
Electro after AAs, otherwise it may partially grow back.
>>5834080
yeah, i do some light exercise every day
but sleep less? is that even good?
>>5834166
No, sleeping less is stupid advice. It'll help you lose weight, but it'll make everything else worse.
>>5834156
How long afterwards did you start electro?
(Sorry if I'm annoying)
>>5834170
So you're basically telling me if I am committed to it, I should stop sleeping at all?
>>5834174
I haven't done either, I'm just basing this off of what I've read. The chart in the trans help general says body hair thinning for MTFs starts around 6 months of HRT. So probably around that point would be good? Starting electro earlier wouldn't cause any problems, you just might end up wasting some money.
>>5834183
technically you need sleep to recover and grow muscle and metabolism slows down in your sleep
but yeah its not very smart to cut your sleep, as it would do more bad that good overall (black circles under my eyes confirm)
better exhaust yourself with aerobic exercises to burn fat and muscles, dont do high intensity workouts
>>5834247
I was just joking, but yeah, that's what I am trying to do right now.
>>5834166
bruh sleeping less to lose weight is mental illness tier bullshit lol. just eat less or exercise more, it's not that complicated. sleep is good for you
>>5834166
Sleeping less is a bad idea. It will fuck up your cortisol, and give you high blood sugar.
>>5833285
hmm new word I like this one, thanks anon
>be me
>19 years old
>cis gay male
>very dominant around guys
>corporate sociopath
>love femboys (not trannys)
>have kinda feminine face
>gay friend says I look like I'm 15 years old at best
>trying to grow out long beautiful hair
>afraid people (especially at work) will stop taking my dominant behavior seriously with my long hair and feminine/baby face
what do?
pic is a model bartek borowiec
>>5834391
do it faggot
>>5834391
>19 years old
>corporate sociopath
So, you're either the errand boy, a secretary, or the owner's effeminate kid who knows he's not a real man, and feels so powerless and weak around older, more manly men, so he tries to deflect those feelings with sociopathic behavior.
>>5834484
Hot
>>5834514
Guess femboys were responsible for the financial meltdown of 2008.
>>5834391
>afraid people (especially at work) will stop taking my dominant behavior seriously with my long hair and feminine/baby face
If you have a real job, it shouldn't matter. If you don't, you shouldn't care.
Is 39€ per session of laser on face okay? or is it too low to not be a scam?
>>5834987
I found 6 sessions on Groupon for 99$, so I would say that's honestly a pretty high price.
>>5835312
Yeah but groupon has really absurd discounts. I found a full face 6 sessions for 89, but it was an 85% discount. It was too far tho
Btw has any of you epilated his face? My beard grows too fast for shaving
where do you buy your cute clothes from /femgen/?
I am creating a new movement for mtf transexuals, feminine boys, crosdressers, traps, and any boy that tries to appear feminine. I'm uniting all of them to promote understanding and remove infighting in the current transexual community. It's called ARGNT, or "Andro Recidivare Gyne Non Traditionalist". It's pronounced "Argent", and I want it to just bring people together.
Anyone want to join in on being an ARGNT?
>>5834784
It actually might matter. Most likely.
I guess I'll just roll with it and see. I may just make some ugly man-bun in case when I need to look professional.
ay /femgen/
What feminizing herbs/supplements aren't just snake-oil, if any?
>>5835828
>Andro Recidivare Gyne Non Traditionalist, Argent
Is tumblr leaking or am I just unfamiliar with this meme? Also pic related
>>5835828
Are you embarking on a crusade to purge the Scourge from the face of Azeroth?
>>5836185
there aren't any. really, unless you want to become tranny. feminizing is all genes and proper healthcare.
>condition and use hair milk for silky smooth hair
>exfoliate and moisturize for silky smooth skin
>use lip balms
>cuticle rubs
>night creams, eye creams and witch hazel toners >drink water. eat your veggies
>take a multivitamin supplement
>don't do red meat
>cardio
>every day is leg day and only leg day
>>5836220
>be actual tranny
>read things like this and get my hopes up
>start hormones
>8 months later
>still just look like a guy except with softer skin
>kinda have boobs but they're not even that noticeable with my shirt off
welp
>>5829288
Dem toothpicks. Is this shoop or does he just never eat or walk anywhere?
>>5836219
>>5836194
>>5836249
>shea butter body scrubs
>shower creams
>my skin is probably softer than yours
:P
>>5836219
I'm gathering people to stop the infighting of groups of similar yet diverse and mutually hateful people, to unite against a common enemy that threatens all groups
Fuck, I was half serious and i can assure you this wasn't intentional
Reminder to join the skype group
https://join.skype.com/wlmWHCUgGEIU
Anyone eating spearmint to help with bodyhair regrowth? I've been taking capsules and a pot of spearmint tea a day. I'm seem to be getting tangible effects but perhaps it's just placebo
>>5836530
holy shit just take bica already
>>5836558
Isn't that an antiacid?
>>5836629
if acids are androgens, yes
>>5836530
If you don't masturbate start doing that, trust me
>>5836645
Start masturbating or start not masturbating?
Got back from a 24 hour walk today only to find my shoulders seem bigger. If I ever have the money in time, I'm going hardcore HRT and cutting my arms off if the muscle won't die. Killin' my curvatures, broseph.
>>5837024
>24 hour walk
test isn't you're problem. you're just insane. save money on meds and see a shrink
>>5837024
Why are you so unfunny?
>>5837024
>namefagging
Well, atleast you'll fit right in at /mtfg/
I really, really, really, really, really fucking hate myself. I don't know why I keep associating myself with trans people. I just envy them, but I know that's fucking absurd, it's not something to be envied. It's something I'm sure no one actually wants, but idk why I always join transgender chat rooms and stuff and just talk. I feel like such a creep, a moron. I wish that I could fucking cure myself of feeling like garbage, I hate myself and I feel like people outside of the internet who I talk to in general think I'm awkward too. I feel like everyone around me is a cold hearted nazi who would be happier if I would be gassed. I look at the attitudes that people have towards others, no one really has any compassion, say one thing wrong and the next thing you know people have a pitchfork and torch mob mentality. I feel like such garbage, please help. I talk to a psychologist twice a week about how I feel, but it never seems to get any better.
>>5837787
I'll talk to you, man. This isn't really the perfect place though. Skype?
Don't you sissies wish you could be a real man?
>>5837923
excluding the trannys that won't fuck out of here, we are all real men except we want to look like girls
there is nothing wrong with wanting to be beautiful
>>5837988
>excluding the trannys that won't fuck out of here