its time for another. gimme your best shot
idk why that pic looks so terrible when uploaded...
post your profile!
Photos angled upwards are conventionally masculine.
post what profile... and why would i
oh, im an idiot... profile as in side view lol
>>5809387
Profile being the side of your face.
You can post your teen-goth.com profile too if you want.
>>5809387
the outline of your face from one side
In order to see your bone structure
>>5809383 my profile looks like aids
>>5809397 no, second is next day... just me not careing about my apperrance
>>5809383
jfc be my boyfriend
Felt alright today
Today's outfit/makeup
>>5809431
My favorite trans cavewoman.
>>5809448
420 blaze it faggot
>>5809381
No OP not even for an ugly girl
>>5809370
You remind me of Claire from House of Cards, who's really hot imho
>>5809412
If you taper your sideburns, it'll feminize your hairline a lot, too
trying to pass as male
>>5809448
pass. you're naturally pretty, you could look more put-together with better skin and hair. skin looks either really greasy or discolored - get a skincare routine (/r/skincareaddiction is v helpful). your hair looks messy as well. simple hairstyles from youtube are great, i think braids would look rly cute on you.
>>5809383
cute, pass. warm up your makeup with a blush or warmer eyeshadow tones, right now it's pallid. get a bra if you're leaving the house, no girls have the awkward budding boobs thing poking through the shirt past middle school
>>5809381
nice hair & makeup senpai. i think you look the best you possibly can without FFS. if you like looser clothing, wear the women's version of it. it draws the eye to a feminine shape.
moi
>>5809867
Almost there
I'm kinda iffy on it
>>5809867
very cute!
your eyes are beautiful
You pass as a really cute young boy!
>>5809953
thank you. glad to hear :)
>>5809370
pass as a grandpa trying on makeup sorry
just a variety of looks including boymode Titty skittles should be arriving in a couple days but i can't help but feel 24 is too late to transition ;(
>>5810259
Bullshit, how can you look this good and only start at 24
you win
>>5810259
(you)
>>5810291
well i knew i was trans since i was like 18 so i had time to practice make up and stuff . I guess it helps that I have a baby face. Still, I need laser for my awful facial hair, so getting a consultation for that next week
I know I don't pass I know my hair is too short, and I know I'm not wearing makeup... I thought it would be easier for help that way.
What I don't know is how to fix myself
Please for the love of god help me, I don't know what to do.
>>5810381
wear makeup, then come back.
>>5810381
u look like a middle aged, puritanical german woman.
>>5810549
umm.... thanks?
at least Im a woman
>>5810381
Your hair is absolutely terrible. If your voice was fine I'd say you pass but I'd be like damn girl your hair is fucking terrible, I hope you fucking slit your hair stylists throat after seeing what they did to you.
I don't think I've ever posted body here
>>5810622
pass
>>5810621
Yeah, im not allowed to do anything too it, much less grow it out. Sadly this is the best I can do.
Well my voice is the only thing I am confidant about, soo lucky I kept singing
>>5810381
Supercute face, you have SOOO much potential. Short hair would be OK if you got a proper pixie cut and not... that.
>>5809383
>tfw I look better from the side
I guess I'll just talk to people at and angle.
>>5810622
Pass, and I love your boots.
>>5810381
Put on some damn makeup, you'll prolly pass. Also ditch the flower dress 'till you're 50
>>5810259
Stop posting, you are like some creepy zodiak doll or something
>>5809871
Pass
>>5809867
If everything else is on point you could prolly pass. Remind me of an ugly Emma Watson for some reason (not in a bad way)
>>5809448
I hate you and your 'having boobs'. Look like a cis girl I work with. Then again you're both black and I'm probably racist.
>>5809381
it's hopeless
>>5809381
you've got potential, but not a pass
>>5809383
aw man, cutie! you pass
>>5809448
holy smokes, you pass with flying colors. you look more feminine than most cis girls i know.
>>5809867
nah, not totally male yet. looking a bit androgynous, but i wouldn't guess you're male right off the bat.
>>5809871
i'd give it a pass
>>5810259
you're pretty cute! you pass
>>5810381
slap some makeup on that face, grow your hair out to at least your shoulders, and you'll be passin' in no time.
>>5810622
purdy cute! pass
>>5810834
i want to say pass, but something about your face feels dude-ish
>>5809867
pass as 17-19 y/o male, change your hair tho
>>5810869
>something about your face feels dude-ish
It's my chin. Need FFS badly.
>>5810834
Your hair colour is a red flag for me. Other than that you look fine(at least from that angle).
Most of my hair is in a ponytail btw
>>5809383
Is it hopeless mi familia?
>>5810834
Don't really pass 100% but honestly that just kinda makes you cuter. 8/10 would cuddle.
>>5809448
Damn. Pass for sure.
>>5809867
Pass, but changing up the hair would help even more.
>>5809871
nigga, someone needs to teach you how to use makeup
>>5810259
Pass. You look prettier when you avoid MySpace angles.
>>5810622
Pass! reminds me of pic related
>>5811040
You look like 5/10 dude with babyface, but a dude nonetheless
>>5811040
nice nose you got there
>>5811040
w-wait, do you/did you work at a Panera Bread?
>>5809431
cis female
this is cutest in thread, she looks like bjork and like she wouldn't bite my head off for having a uterus
>>5810259
the Asian thing looks awful
>>5809383
pass
>>5809431
pass
>>5809448
pass
>>5809871
pass
>>5810259
I really don't know what you do with your makeup but it's way too full on and looks very creepy.
>>5810381
you'd pass regardless of short hair IMO, you have a very effeminate face.
>>5810622
ultra pass
>>5810834
not enough data
>>5811010
sort of pass
>>5811011
don't believe you're even MTF
>>5811153
>it depends, why do you ask
because you look uncannily like my coworker when I used to work at one. Are you in Pennsylvania?
How am I doing yall? Picture from going out the other day
>>5809448
Pass af, also really cute outfit!
>>5809867
You'd totally pass as a pretty young dood
>>5810381
Pass even with the shorter hair
>>5810622
Pass
>>5811166
Nope.
>>5811185
Oh yes, and I love that emohair on you.
>>5811185
post tits pls
>>5811227
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GT4YrrtVEJs
>>5811185
You are mtf right? If so, pass and cute af.
>>5809381
you dont really pass but you still look pretty with makeup
>>5809736
yeah like a cross between Claire there and Moot
looks like a man right now but there is definitely potential for some sort of elegant female beauty
>>5809370
>>5809381
no
>>5809383
yes
>>5809412
no
>>5809448
yes
>>5809867
no
>>5809871
yes
>>5810259
top 5 pics yes, bottom two no.
>>5810381
no
>>5810622
ehhh.. face pic in right is a pass, but you look manly on left pic. Debatable.
>>5810834
not sure
>>5811010
hard jaw, but I'd say pass with that photo.
>>5811011
yes
>>5811040
I think you have a very fem face for a boy.
>>5811185
looking good
>>5809383
Post more red.
18 mtf no hrt. Do i have a good chance of passing later when on hrt?
>>5811495
probably, you look very young and rather androgynous
are you wearing lenses? your eyes look scary and super big
>>5811460
>>5811495
If I was a little kid, and I saw you on the street, I'd be that brat to loudly ask my mom whether you were a boy or a girl.
Keep workin'! You'll be a full time pass soon enough.
>>5811514
Front shott
>>5809381
bowie tier androgynous
>>5809383
ya made it
>>5809448
cis girl pls go c:
>>5809867
change ya hair and youll be fine
>>5809871
i really cant tell. i just think i dont like this picture
>>5810259
beauty shot/10
dont be daft. you can do either. generally dont part your hair in the middle if you want to pass as female. but you look like you might be an exception.
>>5810381
fix that hair girl. you look pretty cute tho
>>5810622
maddie u babe. i dont like horizontal stripes all that much but you still pass. also ur lashes are great. you really do have great eyes.
>>5810834
i like your hair dont listen to the plebs. also i think you pass but a little bit of rhino couldn't hurt. its not make or break but it would help.
>>5811010
i have similar glasses and i dont like wearing them because they emphasize my nose. i think thats what happened in this picture too.
>>5811011
there cis girls with worse noses than you dont worry too much
>>5811185
youll make it with more time
hugbox me pls
(ive cleaned my room since no bully)
>>5811527
>>5811495
Jacob?
>>5811555
Your face is so aesthetically pleasing and is that you real hair colour?
I would chase./10
>>5811552
qt/pie, would pat on head.
>>5811576
yep! orange hair don't care!
Fucking kill yourselves
>>5811552
Your room (in the pic) is a little too clean for my tastes. Also, pass.
>>5811690
hon plz go
>>5811501
No lenses i was just doing something weird with my eyes in that picture
>>5811633
let's raise bunch soulless children together
>>5811514
oh my gawsh you look so cute! x3 I had to pretty you up to make you even cuter!
>>5811851
Who installed photoshop on this downies computer?
Get good reject
>>5811552
oink oink x3
>>5811875
I-I was only trying to be nice ;_; l-let me try again? <3
>>5811851
ahhh thank you so much!!!!
New to this shit, butt virgin, no HRT just a 90% straight boy in a dress come at me.
>>5811937
i....don't wiggle or suck my cheeks in?
Oh, also I get consistently gendered female by strangers about 100% nowadays
Why don't you post some pictures yourself, lmao~
>>5811946
post a good pic and i'll give you a serious reply
>>5811851
>>5811910
When sensei shows up
>>5811971
ahhhh it's really beautiful!
you're so sweet, beeps!
I want to cuddle and kiss you~
>>5811971
>>5811979
>>5811971
still got a harelip and 5 o'clock shadow senpai
>>5812007
I dont see anything and I'm not a jealous hon so eat shit
>>5812007
Trip on, hips
>>5811495
Stop straightening hair your hair and get it chem straightened and wash every other day.
>>5811946
>>5811966
Better pic
>>5812139
congrats man
if you start now, there's no chance in hell you're not gonna pass
>>5812184
Too bad I have manhands the size of the fucking moon.
>>5812014
No, they def got some wispies on the upper lip that hurts the femininity
>>5812240
whatever
least you got a good face, unlike the majority of /mtf/
also post cock
>>5809370
Pass
>>5809381
needs work but close
>>5809383
Pass
>>5809412
pass
>>5809448
pass and gorgeous
>>5809867
Need haircut
>>5809871
pass
>>5810259
totally pass
wear makeup, but you aren't bad honestly
>>5810622
pretty and pass
>>5810834
pass
>>5811010
pass
>>5811011
pass
>>5811040
not hopeless at all
>>5811185
pass
>>5811552
pass and cute
>>5811555
pass
Pre-T, hoping to get on it soon though.
Sorry for potato quality.
>>5813873
Dude, don't worry you pass for really cute boy
I would totally date you
If I even resemble anything close to a girl >.>
>>5813324
You look like an older version of a Girl I was with in college, cutepass tier.
>>5813951
aww. However I just got clocked in like 3 seconds flat in video chat. hmmm
>>5813939
Thanks! It means a lot to hear that, actually.
>>5813984
sorry what do you mean by clocked?
>>5813873
SOCUTE
>>5813873
huh I read carelessly and took this for a pre-hormones would-be MTF, and I was like, "yeah this could probably be a girl, if he made a few changes"
so, yeah, I guess you're doing okay then
>>5809370
Hey I think I'm mtf pre everything. How fucked am I? I know balding, big jaw, broad shoulders. Any help is appreciated. I have an appointment with an informed consent clinic in two weeks.
>>5814060
A guy said pretty quickly your a dude right?
>>5814133
Not sure, i don't really lurk pass threads much, i just noticed your pic\ and wanted to give you some encouragement.
>>5814132
oh boy you're cute
face is actually not too fucked, but it'll take a while to grow out your hair and everything
>>5814132
I'd recommend bangs for that forehead, but you have a nice nose and rounded jaw line, I think you'll pass after HRT and stuff
>>5814180
Thanks for the advice I use to have long hair and bangs but now I have a norwood 2 hairline. I'm screwed I hope HRT helps.
>>5814167
Thanks I hope I can make it through this and finally have a real relationship.
>>5814075
Sweet
>>5809381
clean your room, savage
>>5814154
Thanks. I really appreciate it. I am improving all the time.
pre-everything ftm, 19yo
>>5814359
Well I look forward to hearing more about that. I hope i can see more of you smiling someday.
>>5809381
The first pic your makeup it too heavy. I think you're beautiful, and I like your andro style a lot, but you might not pass so much. Can't tell completely. Love the short hair, though.
>>5814371
Why is your hair so big? And there's something about your eyes that don't pass. Everything else is fine.
>>5814371
well you look angry and jaded, so you are the perfect passing male teenager anon.
>>5814371
Dont know about the rest, but your face can definitely pass for a guy
>>5814429
then congratulations anon, you have achieved perfect FTM stealth even before mones.
>>5814371
Your face looks masculine, you have a good nose and your face is nice and long. You will definitely look like a natal male eventually. Are you on T? If so, for how long?
Do i pass?
>>5814759
do you fuckers even try anymore. Ofc you don't.
>>5814759
That depends on which way youre going
>>5814765
You're so egotistical, you don't even recognize a post meant to be fun and carefree.
>>5810259
I have a thing for baby faces. God, you're cute. That is, if you're still lurking.
>>5814785
I dunno; I'm a bit jaded in the community desu.Shit excuse; but it's just the way it is.
![PassThread[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/y5M7aoE.jpg "PassThread[1].jpg")
>18
>No make-up
>Pre -everything
Be nice pls
>>5814841
No pass yet, but that's because you're only 18 and not on hormones.
>>5814785
>>5814765
Yeah I was just screwing around. Here's a not-dumb picture.
>>5814770
The only way I'm going is up, yo.
>>5814872
Stop making that face, its like your trying to hide you are the one releasing a helium fart.
>>5814899
Suck my helium dick, nigga.
>>5814955
I'm gunna suck your dick.
>>5814955
you keep making faces like you are trying to laugh off you peed yourself or something. are you so worried people will say you are ugly you need to make stupid faces?
>>5814985
Naw, I'm just feeling really fucking awesome. I just started my first paid job in almost 4 years and everyone I work with is great.
Also I have no decent pictures on hand so I'm just posting some random pics that I took a few days ago.
>>5815019
Good for you!
>>5815019
That's fine, better stupid faces because happy than stupid faces because think your ugly.
>>5811010
Scrolling through and this pic surprised me when it came up so I actually said 'ayy lmao' out loud kinda as an involuntary reaction
You look like the interstellar race from outer space anon, consider a brown paper bag i hear theyre in season
>>5809383
do you have a sloped forehead that is covered by hair? i do and want to see if it possible to pass
>>5814132
WOW you are hot.
But if you must go girl then I think you'll do fine.
I know I dont pass as a girl, but am I at least feminine looking?
>>5815122
I honestly hope I dont know you.
You ironic meme spouting retard.
>>5815413
People might mistake you for a guy, but if you correct them they wouldn't necessarily think you are trans.
>>5815413
You actually are on the verge of passing. You have a great face shape. I'm thinking some makeup to make your face more even colored would really help.
>>5815492
what you mean by "more even colored"?
I had to use a lot of lightning and camera's brightness to look like that, I hate having brown skin.
Also I have a horrible birthmark in my chin.
>>5815413
Start hormones
>>5815501
Your skin is a bit darker above your lips and on your jawline, since that's where facial hair grows. Covering up your lower face with some concealer would make it less noticeable. I actually like your skin tone. I didn't notice you had a birthmark! You're going to pass flawlessly on hrt.
>>5815530
>Covering up your lower face
in every single one of my pictures i hide my lower face.
>I actually like your skin tone.
thanks
>>5814132
Omg you are so fucking cute. You're goina be a qt. No agp.
>>5814132
Dam son. How old?
>>5809867
>trying to pass as male
fug, andro or actually ftm? I've had a crush on you for awhile
Well, shit.
How is my face doing
>>5815676
pretty damn cute
>>5814841
please don't do that creepy hand thing
Pre-everything, 21
(Have an appointment with psych next month)
Is it a lost cause?
>>5815715
Did you do something to your face? it has a somewhat femenine essence to it, maybe is not a lost cause, How tall are you?
>>5815726
Maybe my eyelashes look feminine? They have always been really Long naturally.
I'm 5'4''
>>5815539
Your nose ruins you
>>5815413
You look like a super geeky girl in this pic.
>>5815715
You'll do fine hon
>>5816119
Really that bad?
21y.o 2nd month hrt.
Haven't touched E yet, passable?
>>5815388
Cute AF pass pass pass
>>5816220
Da ti je buryat s dvacha, pomnu tebya.
>>5811010
Don't listen to them. Im a straight dude, you are cutest in thread.
>>5816233
yes, lucky you
>>5816251
Thank you :3
>>5816243
:^)
>>5816233
Pass AF like seriously.
>>5815122
At least there is space for a brain between my eyes, something you obviously lack.
Also I look amazing, don't be a dick.
I know you want to look like me, but sadly you are not me. Get over it.
>>5816355
<3 <3
>>5815630
I'm 24 thats why I'm worried wish I did it earlier or even in college.
>>5814855
ahh thank you, that means a lot!
also a pic of my profile (?) which i posted once before i think.. its a bit different from my other picture. my hair wasnt fucked up and i liked it. (thanks barber)
>>5816617
top half (nose and up) =laineybot
bottom half= dylan klebold
>>5809383
>>5816624
Omfg dylan klebold, im dying lol! also laineybot is very cute imo, so i´ll take both as a compliment :D
>>5816617
Whenever I see this photo posted here, my sides shoot off into orbit. I saved it last time you posted due to the sheer laughter it brings to me. Thank you, ftm-anon.
>>5816762
No problem! why is that though? any advice perhaps?
>>5815413
No, you look like a man. Sorry.
>>5816494
Honestly I think you're gonna pass if you put some legitimate effort in. Also eat well when you start HRT.
>>5816659
Cis girl trolling
5 months on HRT, do I pass yet??
>>5817025
I hope you get passed over by a freight train, you ugly cunt
>>5817025
yes, you pass, you look amazing imo
>>5817025
fuck yeah
>>5814132
>> people of 4chan actually say nice things and surprisingly consider you cute.
>> still hate self and think of dying every waking second.
>> unsatisfiable pain.
>>5815539
shape your eyebrows, a lot of famous women has strong jawlines.
How the fuck do you people post here without wanting to kill yourselves if you get no's?
>>5817425
>> too many negatives to bother reading
Bonus voice does it pass?http://vocaroo.com/i/s0kNtQkeQbEd
>>5817425
I don't
>>5817425
if you ask you pass you get a yes or a no its that simple. and who cares anyways, if they say no, they should add advice and why. besides most of the people are pre here, im sure once on hormones for a while it would change a lot. if not, then you have the right to be sad lol.
>>5817425
I already hate myself enough as to kill myself without anybody calling me ugly.
And my self esteem is already way too fucked up, somebody just calling me ugly isnt that bad, I used to think I was uglier than down syndrome kids, like for real.
>>5817510
It kinda sorta passes, and not only that you sound really cute as well. But perhaps you were helped by the fact that you spoke so softly and quietly, what happens when you speak up?
I know I don't pass but any advice would be appreciated
>>5817631
yeah pretty much this ^
>>5817674
You're actually very feminine. I think that in your case it will come down to behavior and your voice. Work with a speech therapist and gradually you'll see that people start thinking of you as a girl. It will boost your confidence and accelerate the process.
>>5817631
I'm sorry to hear that. I hope you're in a better place now.
>>5817674
I think it might help to have a different haircut, hair like that makes your face look longer and i think less feminine. If you curl it a bit or make it a bit messy so its less straight I think it would look more feminine. Besides that you have nice eyes, and a good feminine body!
>>5817699
yea, my selfesteem is way better now, I used to not even be able to look myself on mirrors, I will never know if it was just low self esteem or dysphoria, Im very feminine now and feel better with myself but I havent transition.
Also always I post I get some good feedback and compliments, it doesnt make me feel much better about myself, but at least helps me realize how wrong I am about how I see myself.
>>5817732
Well that's something, going from hating the way you look to starting to accept yourself. How's your life otherwise? Do you have a job or a school to go to? Getting out and meeting people and having some kind of purpose helps immensely as it takes your mind off of things.
>>5817753
I go to college, but I live in south america, so people isnt nice at all with lgbt people, I used to live in a city where I used to get beaten at night and spitted at college, hopefully I moved from that shithole.
The point of the story is that being lgbt in a homophobic country makes me feel even worse
>>5817674
youre fine, would fuck alot
>>5817773
Do you have the means/will to leave? Are there some way you can find a better city to live in if you can"t leave the country?
>>5817793
A better city near? No, I already live in probably one of the best places for /lgbt/ around here.
I have some money, but I don't think its enough to move, moving to another country is complicated, specially with my depression.
And moving to another country isnt like just taking a plane, get there and find a job. I probably wont be even given a working visa.
How do I look from profile?
>>5817881
Does anyone know what the best city to live in for trans people is? I'm thinking San Fransisco but the rent there makes it impossible to live.
>>5817657
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1gYz57wdSbB
Here you go also higher res of mt face
>>5817952
look girl to me
>>5816233
I know bushy eyebrows are a thing right now but for me personally coupled with that brow they're a dead giveaway. I would tame the tufty bits on the ends closest to your eyes, and be wary of lifting your eyebrows too high when you're trying to show emotion/expression while talking - this is a skill a lot of cis women develop anyway because raising your eyebrows creates wrinkles for almost anyone. Look at Gillian Anderson if you don't believe me; you'll notice in all her recent photos where she looks even hotter than she did when she was young in her 40s, she's never popping brow.
I know other posters think you pass as is but this is just my honest opinion, in this pic you're clearly MTF, but it's all in the eyes/brows/forehead.
>>5814841
You look like a lesbian. You should get on HRT asap, your facial shape has the potential to be cute af with makeup and a feminine hair style, don't wait for it to be ruined.
>>5817910
cis girl plz go
>>5817674
take a better picture, its hard to tell from that angle.
>>5818230
>everyone that looks better than me is cis
>>5818230
Thanks !
(I think)
m-maybe i'll be a tripfag someday
Um so what do you all think?
Trying to pass as female
>>5818550
Gros your hair out and hide the beard shadow with makeup and youre golden
Hi everyone, am I girling properly?
ITT everyone posts. no one rates.
>>5818595
chin surgery and longer hair and less fat and shorter eyebrows maybe too.
>>5817952
Cute, voice has a long way to go however
>>5818595
yes but your eyebrows are too thin imo aging your face
>>5818749
You look like a drag queen desu
>>5818868
desu
>>5811514
I want - to have sex with you. :)
Rate me lots but be gentle.
can I pass?
>>5810259
You only pass with tons of makeup, a wig, and Instagram filters. I have known since the very first pic I ever saw of you that you were not on HRT.
I wonder if your attention whoring will calm down once HRT starts? Prolly not tho.
BTW that dude you took a pic with looks like he sucks more dick than you do 2bh.
>>5811185
>How am I doing yall?
Goddamn... I mean, hello friend my name is Carth its a pleasure to meet you :^)
Are you Latina? You look Latina. Please be Latina, 5'2", submissive, and looking for a muscular top because you pass really well and I wanna dick you down 2bh.
You dress like a Commie tho... just sayin
>>5811552
>hugbox me pls
Hayyyyyy BeepBeep, you are beautiful, you are gorgeous, you are the Polaris to my big dipper bb girl :^)
I will come over and help you clean your room pham (:
>>5813324
You are getting fat, not trolling, just letting you know because its hurting your passing.
>>5813873
Your jaw looks like it would shatter into a million pieces if someone kissed you on the cheek. Better go hard with that T dose familia.
>>5815413
Thin Amerindians will almost always pass (they are technically Asians after all), but I know you said before you cant transition, etc, etc. You would pass though if you did, and you have really nice hair.
Just curious what country are you from? Peru or Chile or some shit?
>>5816659
This is a textbook example of why FFS is disgusting and should be avoided unless absolutely necessary, and kept as minimal as possible.
So much of your facial musculature and cartilage has been manipulated that you barely look human anymore. Personally for me its physically revolting, I literally want to puke up the 2lbs of vegetables I just ate.... thanks you fucker :x
>>5817674
>any advice would be appreciated
Up your dose, eat more, hop on my dick.
Order is arbitrary :^)
>>5818952
>iFag
>unclean mirror
Kill yourself
am i a muppet or a man?
>>5818990
Unattractive? :(
>>5819099
I think you're qt
how far away am I from being able to pass?
>>5819375
It is hard to be sympathetic to your crying about being on hrt for months and months and still not passing when it looks like you put literally no effort in. Passing doesn't just happen like magic by popping skittles. In this pic you haven't
>styled your hair
>put on makeup
>shaped your eyebrows
Not to mention that you look like you're wearing men's clothing. Even stuff like jewelry helps you pass.
like, what do you expect dude? I'm sorry if this isn't what you wanted to hear but if you want to get something out of transition you have to put something in.
>>5819389
just presenting male until I'm passable senpai
>>5819406
You don't become 'passable' by presenting male. That's like trying to learn a new language and saying you won't speak a word of it out loud until your fluent.
