>female face and body very attractive
>vagina unattractive
>male face and body completely unattractive
>penis highly arousing
Kill me please
>>5805457
Just seek a femboy, or penis-positive trans girl, and be a good match. Don't kill yourself over something as stupid as that.
>>5805457
Will you cuddle me?
>>5805457
I have the exact same predicament OP.
>>5805476
I don't find femboys attractive, they're still male looking, just younger/feminine. There's unlikely to be a single penis positive trans girl in this country, let alone finding and courting one. I also still have standards and wouldn't want one who didn't pass which is <5/10% of them.
>>5805498
Start saving up for yearly trips to Thailand.
>>5805554
I'd rather just live there. Been before and its an amazing quality of life for how cheap it is.
Sadly I've got commitments here for at least a few years
>>5805645
Too hot climate to live there. If you're good looking and a smart, nice guy, I'm sure you'll be able to find a qt trans girl. Most are obsessed with the finding-a-"straight"-guy-who's-not-a-chaser meme, so just play into that.
>>5805457
SAME prob OP no idea what to do :(
>>5805992
As I said before, there's probably 5-10 trans girls in the entire country. So that's 1 passable one if I'm lucky and I'll never meet her. Guess I'll just stay single
I also don't understand how they can really be so picky with "straight" guys. There's no reason for a heterosexual guy to go for them rather than a cis girl, especially if he wants a long term relationship/kids. I understand that most want to be rid of the dick and don't want it as a focus point, but I'm betting they write off 95% of their realistic partners for being "chasers". If an attraction to literally what they are is all that constitutes that then it seems pretty ridiculous. After all they're looking for a relationship and not just a fuck so the person should matter more than the physicality on both sides.
>>5806269
I think some of them write off chasers because they see them as gay men where the Top only is seen as straight. Since they dont see themselves as men and as female, a "straight" man being attracted to them does not make him gay so long as he is only a top.
When it comes down to it, it seems the the trans girl is just as homophobic towards bi men/chasers as cis women are towards bi men/ men who want to be pegged.
>>5806282
But they've got to realise reality is completely stacked against them for heterosexual men compared to a cis girl.
Beggars can't be choosers
>>5806305
I totally agree.
But i think common sense is thrown out the window for a fair amount of trans people when they live a life where they are treated so differently from everyone else for no real good reason.
Reality is always stacked against them, why accept that finding a straight" top only guy is unrealistic when becoming a trans in the first place might have been just as unrealistic for them considering their circumstances.
Also this is a personal opinion, But i have also noticed alot of trans girls i have hooked up with arnt very educated and do not have much of a family network.
We have mom, dad teachers and professers to tell us to smarten up and that affects our worldview whether we like it or not, alot of trans people dont (again in my personal experience).
>>5806251
Traps?
>>5806325
traps meaning femboys? the problem with them has already been discussed. Traps meaning tgirls? again the problem with them has aready been discussed
>>5806269
what country do you even live in
>>5806344
ya it must be some small ass country to have 10 tgirls
>>5806346
cause my town alone has like more than 10 at least including myself. And its only 95,000 people, smaller than just about all countries.
>>5806352
huh thats interesting. my home town has 150 000 people and there are no traps trans that I know of. only gays
stop watching porn and obsessing over your attractions, it's unbecoming of even a bifag
>>5806378
I agree but I think this has turned more into a discussion of "why this is the case" and not "is it realistic to expect this"
>>5805457
See a psychiatrist.
>>5805457
>vagina unattractive
So you're like every other straight boy who won't go down?
So basically you are either a gay or bi man with a lot of insecurities, possibly from bullying or parents/family/friends/peers view on homosexuality.
It's by virtue impossible to not find people of both sexes attractive, even if it is in the most banal way, such as
'Hey, look at that dude, I understand why he has a lot of chicks chasing after him because he's attractive'.
In psychology there is a concept called splitting, and it's more or less a defense mechanism. That's the way you have constructed your sexuality, you've green lit for yourself that it's ok to like dicks as long as they are on women. This is called baby steps, whether you move further along or not is probably up to you.
>>5805457
People just have this penis and vagina thing totally backwards.
I'm a kinda bi guy. Vagina is awesome, and penis is the worst part of the male body. Rest of the male body is ok sometimes, except for the face. And then I see all these guys lusting over cock and calling vaginas gross and unattractive. It's so weird.
>>5806322
>blaming trannies for not wanting to be your personal fuck toys
First time poster. If you're really looking for a relationship with a trans cutie and you don't look like a sperglord I'll send you a photo. Throwaway email: [email protected]
Same bro. Its amazing how much I love dick despite not being really attracted to dudes. I could go to any public place and point out many woman I find attractive, but not a single male. Yet when I see a nice dick I just want be someones bitch and get ran though all night.
I heard someone call this being heteromantic bisexual. You're romantically and sexually attracted to woman, but only sexually attracted to men, so there is no desire for a relationship there, only sex.
I've come across tons of guys like us online, so at least we aren't alone. I blame porn, since that's usually how the curiosity starts. I can't imagine I'd have any interest in gay shit without it since I'm not attracted to men like a normal gay guy.
Now I'm struggling on whether or not I should embrace this. On one had its hot as fuck, but on the other I don't feel like going down that road is gonna make me happy.
>>5807714
okay despite living in western US, I personally know (like we talk on a regular basis) three trans girls from new zealand. I have never been to new zealand, nor have any connection to it, these are just people I met randomly on the internet. seriously, trans girls are not that rare. they are probably about 1/200-1/400, or for a country the size of new zealand, you've got anywhere from 11-20 thousand trans girls. Even if we go by the lowest estimates of like 1/1000 thats still over 4000 trans girls. two thirds of which are either bi or straight, statistically.
>>5807858
Where on the internet? You realise that hanging around and talking within a known community online you're going to meet more than what is normal? Just sounds like confirmation bias to me.
Got any evidence of those numbers?
I've lived here my entire life in the city with half the population and not met one
>>5807714
welly?
>>5808024
>I've lived here my entire life in the city with half the population and not met one
have you asked everyone you met? or do you have some sort of genetic scanner built info your eyes like reading rainbow black guy?
>>5808122
yeah i think one of the things you learn being trans is that the /r9k/ memes are true, women are drowning in options
ree chad
>>5808169
auckland is okay too i guess, not a degenerate sheep farm
well like how places like /r9k/ and mens rights and redpill stuff complain about how easy women have it in terms of mate selection and how you can be fat and ugly, immobile and fed from a tube, and you'll still have choices in men. It's pretty damn true, men are easy
>>5808169
>Because the top few % attractive ones give a good general indication for the whole?
>I only want the top 5-10% who are attractive
>NO THE EXPERIENCES OF THE TOP 5-10% ARE IRRELEVANT
>>5808194
im just saying, your "trannys should date me cuz beggars can't be choosers :ccc" mentality is pretty off, because even the ugliest half woman still has men
>>5808199
That's very enough, I see your point.
But still, even the ugliest girls don't have a penis so most straight men are still going to be out of the picture.
>>5808169
>because the top few % attractive ones give a good general indication for the whole?
No, of course they don't. Most trans women are screwed. However, you said that you have standards, and would only date the few % who pass, let alone who are penis positive. You are severely underestimating the amount and caliber of attention received by someone who fits what you're looking for.
>>5808215
Yes but how much of that attention is based on the assumption she has a vagina?
Even so, even if I was a 10/10 guy it's still very unlikely that I'll meet one let alone date them
>>5805457
I am just like you, it's a pain in the ass to find a match. Which is why I am still a virgin.
Why don't all the guys in here who like female bodies with dicks just ask a girl to wear a realistic strap-on?
>>5808745
Not the same, else a dildo would suffice.
>>5808745
Because the girls who would be into that are one in a million and even with a loving, understanding gf you're risking the relationship with a question like that. Most girls do enjoy being in the typical female role, especially sexually, and to ask something like that as a guy can really shatter the masculine image she has of you. Not to mention the girl's insecurities and thoughts of inadequacy etc if you tell her you want dick
>>5805457
Yep OP,
Futa is probably your area of interest if you're into animu
(Its pretty good tbqh)
>>5808816
If you want to end up in a crappy relationship where you can't fulfill each others sex life that's not a relationship you want to stay in. Your choice if you want to sacrifice happiness to appear masculine tho.
>>5808985
Unfortunately I don't live in a hedonistic dream world where everyone is into non vanilla kinks and is attracted to gender fluid supreme beings.
I'd rather keep a good relationship with an exceptional girl in every other respect that fulfill a partial desire.
Chances are I'll never meet a girl who's into that in my life and even if I do, what are the chances of me bumping into one, having a relationship until the point at which that mutual trust has developed and then finding out she's into that? Next to 0
If she's attracted to me as a man and sees me in that position and her as a conventional woman, what makes you think she'd be anything but disgusted or put off me by the thought? Most women are.
>>5808816
Pegging a cute young man is my kink, and seen from my perspective it's the mirror opposite: "the guys who are into that AND into girls are one in a million so chances are it'll never happen". It hasn't, not yet at least, but I keep hoping.
>>5805457
That's perfect for mtf girls though. It's good people like you exist, everyone deserves love.
