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Now that he's sure to be president of the USA, how does it feel that you'll be forced in the sex offender registry in two years tops?
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>>5774596
>>5774619
Pretty shoddy stumping attempt here
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>>5774680
This
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>>5774969
You'll be fucking rooted out before long. Trump serves the wild right wing idiot masses and the moment they get back into power gays are back on the hit list. A republican will never be your friend, though he will still try to use you when he can.

Let's just hope you aren't stupid enough to allow yourself to be used by the people who would see you destroyed.
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>>5774984
...it's incredibly unfortunate that so many LGBT on here are too young to properly remember Bush 2004 and the depths of populist rage that can be whipped up against LGBT people in a heartbeat. Overnight vast swaths of us drooling, tv-fed Americans were terrified of the gays infiltrating our schools and our marriages and our government.

It will happen again if you let it. If you think a bunch of broke goat farmers running from cluster bombs threaten you as much as the vast, rich evangelical establishment that lies slumbering in the conference rooms behind all of these republican primaries then you're probably stupid enough to let it happen again.
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>>5774995
>Implying the majority of lgbt is so underage they don't remember 2004.
That was some scary shit, and I was 8 at the time. Didn't realize it then (I'm out as biscum now) and it was still scary to see all the hate.
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>>5774995
Shit. Never realized that a lot of these impressionable young adult /pol/lacks were small children when Bush ran. They don't even see how much the Trump/Bush playbook overlaps.
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>>5775589
Are you fucking kidding? Trump is the anti-Bush.

From a person who was old enough when W was president. Trump knows that gays aren't the main issue. The main issue is losing our country to the shitskin hordes, and uncucking us from trade deals that have absolutely fucked us.

But, the ebil Republicans! You think the fucking Hindus, gooks, mudslimes, and wetbacks are going to treat you better?
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You either vote for someone who publically dislikes you or you vote for someone who will stab you in the back sooner or later.
Either way LGBT is gonna be on the receiving end.

So, do you want to hear "Allahu Akbar" or "Deus Vult" when you die?
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>>5775657
lol
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>>5774606
First they came for the Mexicans, and I said nothing because I'm not Mexican.
Next they came for the Muslims, and I said nothing because I'm not Muslim.
After that they came for the blacks, and I said nothing because I'm white.
Then they came for the liberals, and I said nothing because I registered Republican to vote for Trump in the primaries.
Then they came for me, and by then nobody was left to speak up for me.
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>>5774596
Not gonna happen. He has a good chance at winning the nomination, but next to no chance at actually winning the presidency.
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Although he is against gay marriage but has never tried to make it illegal and has honored the laws in states that did legalize it before the SCOTUS made it finale.
That is as far as his homophobia goes. As for being an ally, I'll just leave this here https://archive.is/YJ2yC
Go ahead and tell my why I should ignore all this and just consider him a literal Nazi for wearing an elephant pin instead of a donkey one? Go ahead and tell my why I should put my trust in a party (Democrat) who's trying get rid of the guy (Sanders), who has been actively fighting for our rights, to make sure the woman (Clinton) who helped pass DOMA, did nothing afterwards to fix it and to this day refuses to apologize and defends it. If I'm to vote on whether or not a president is going to throw me in a camp, which is insane, why wouldn't I vote for the party who's (maybe) front runner be the one who's been for amending the anti-discrimination act to apply to us? I won't be voting for Trump if it's him vs. Bernie but if the decision comes down to Trump vs. Clinton, I'm going for Trump. I'd rather have one corporate sleezeball that wants to keep the (brown) religious extremists out and protect my right to live than someone controlled by a bunch of corporate sleezeballs that thinks I shouldn't even allowed to get married. The Democrats doing their best to get Hillary to be president instead of Sanders shows how little they care about their voters and the gay community
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If he wins the nomination (which is looking very likely) then there's every chance he'll win the presidency, I know you're a little mad that he's doing well but don't let your biased nature cloud your rational thought.

It seems like at every stage people have said the same "lol he doesn't have a chance!", the guy will be in the oval office and people will still be in denial.
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>>5775749
>He has a good chance at winning the nomination, but next to no chance at actually winning the presidency

Who is he going to lose against?

Hillary is no chance of winning the election and most people won't get behind liberal Bernie. The only way Trump can't win is if Hillary gets a ton of fake votes.
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>>5775766
He loses in head to heads against both Hillary and Bernie. Look it up on RealClearPolitics
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>>5774596
C A N T S T U M P T H E T R U M P
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>>5775769

Trump would eat Bernie alive in a 1-1 debate, let's be honest. I'm really hoping it'll get to that stage.
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>>5775766
>Who is he going to lose against?
An unfortunate accident that just happens to cost his life and nobody could have possibly seen coming.
Or just a bullet.

It happened earlier, so why wouldn't it happen this time?
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Jeb is a mess.
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>>5775782
>Trump would eat Bernie alive in a 1-1 debate
Not one based on logic and reason. He could definitely win the insult/pandering aspect of it.

>beating a Jew at intellect
Goy please
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>>5775657
>Trump is the anti-Bush.
Lol

>The main issue is losing our country to the shitskin hordes
But brown people are still going to outnumber whites in America in a few decades. No wall or immigration policy is going to fix this. Unless Trump's wall is actually sectioning off all of the Southern/Southwestern United States then it seems like the shitskin hordes are already poised to take over in about 3 decades.

>You think the fucking Hindus, gooks, mudslimes, and wetbacks are going to treat you better?
Wow what a great argument for something, you should work in marketing. What do you think of this slogan: "Cancer: well, it's better than having AIDS!". Absolutely compelling.
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>gays are voting republican, not libertarian.

Can't teach you guys anything. One of the big reasons there's a shitstorm about Scalia's death is because neocons see a chance to defend marriage. Not that I would ever marry, but the precedent is dangerous.

If you are actually a small-government conservative you'll run as far away as you can from Pastor Ted Cruz) Rubio (who is actually a bigger liar than Hillary), and Trump. Donald is actually just a democrat cashing in on republican rage, and a smart conservative should see right through him.

While Cruz and Rubio will get in office, get their first security briefing, and suddenly reverse their positions on destroying the Iran deal and a no-fly-zone in Syria where Russian jets are already flying, in order to avoid WWIII.

We already lost our chance for Paul this time, so just vote for Kaisch so we'll actually have country for 2020.
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>>5774984
>But um... Milo is a gay- I mean a faggot- and he's totally cool with calling gay guys faggots, and that Trump is good for gays. Milo is just totally fabulous, didn't you get the memo?
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>>5774995
>>5775050
I want to know exactly what you're referring to.
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>>5775769
Bernie is already done
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What makes people here think that Trump's for trans rights? Everything I've seen claiming that he's for LGBT rights only shows that he's for LGB rights, which is nice but not ideal. What makes you guys think that he won't throw trans people under the bus when the neo-cons wanna ban our health care again or use bathroom bullshit to keep us out of anti-discrimination laws? Let's not forget that Trump is anti-SJW and how everyone loves to conflate transsexuals with SJWs.
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If Trump becomes president there will be so much chaos nobody will have time to care about the gays.

We'll be to busy dealing with the international reputational blowback from trump declaring wars and insulting foreign diplomats and race rights from his crazy policies
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Just popping in to remind all the hyperventilating Liberals that "carpet bomb them all" Cruz and "kill planned parenthood" Rubio are just as extreme (but are pro-TPP neoliberals and thus acceptably "moderate" to GOP establishment). And also that none of them has any shot of winning in the general.
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It ain't over yet. There is no way they will allow trump to win the primary. Out true saviour Cruz will win this.
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>>5776022
>what happens on 4chan also happens in real life
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>>5776022
Libertarian here. Generally we actually believe government should fuck off outta marriage.

Kasich also pulled some dirty illegal tricks to win against a libertarian. If Kasich hadn't done what he did, a true libertarian would have won governor putting us one step closer to the white house. Voting Kasich is less libertarian than voting Cruz.

Also, Cruz may not be perfect, but he's the best from both sides. I want Johnson, but it just ain't happening yet. Cruz is a constitutionalist and believes in some libertarian ideals like auditing the fed and abolishing the IRS.
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>Democrats expecting gays to be a secure voting bloc for doing one or two issues for us
We're not fucking idiots, you authoritarian cunts, and we don't owe you shit for making a few basic rights legal.
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>>5775742
>First they came for the illegals and I said nothing because I don't break the law
>Next they stopped people with the most dangerous ideology in 2016 from entering the country and I said nothing because I don't worship a warlord and am currently in the country
>After that they went after the rich globalists bleeding our money dry and I said nothing because I am not a globalist
>After that they stopped coming after people because all of our problems were solved
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>>5775903
>he thinks people vote based on logic
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>>5778500
>this
paranoid liberals actually believe Trump is the second coming of Hitler
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>>5778556
If only
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>>5774596
>liberals being scared of trump
Are they afraid of their own shadows, too?
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>>5778616
Generally people prefer when ideologically similar people are in power
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I don't want to read leftist ramblings so I'm just going to post Trump menes.
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>>5778634
>menes
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I seriously don't understand why people on /lgbt/ and reddit act like a republican getting elected means that they'll be rounded up into camps and executed.
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>>5778638
yes, dank menes
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>>5778647
I believe you mean mems
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>>5778645
Because water headed mainstream normie shitlibs are sensationalist as fuck
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>>5778647
>>5778634
>>5778639
These aren't even good menes
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>>5778660
Trump is the definition of sensationalism
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>gay
>voting for donald trump

Why is this board filled with self loathing /pol/ faggots? The right hates you, it has always hated you, and if it had its way would immediately reclassify homosexuality as a mental disorder, revoke your right to marriage, and prevent you adopting children.

>b-but these crazy SJW liberals!
Hokay! Enjoy your second class citizenship.
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>>5778661
What are you, blind? These are top quality menes my friend.
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>>5778582
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>>5778678
I feel like he's pretty on point desu. I feel like the ones painting him as
>OH MY GOD HE'S LITERALLY HITLER ITS ANUDDAH SHOAH IM LITERALLY CRYING RN
are more sensationalist
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>>5778679
>the right hates you
only far rights
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>>5775657
>he's part of a discriminated minority
>discriminates minorities

You faggots are hilarious
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>>5778693
He's tapping into a generic well of populist anger. he's pretty standard predictable given who his fans generally are
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>>5778699
So because someone is part of a minority group they default have to have a hard-on for all other minority groups? You also forget the fact that if that anon is white that makes him part of that majority group.

This "If you're [insert """oppressed""" minority group here] then you MUST support [insert leftist cuck politician here]" mentality is beyond cancerous.
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>>5778699
I'm a Euro-American above all. Apes aren't my people.
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>>5778708
>He's tapping into a generic well of populist anger
This isn't a new strategy at all in American politics, there's not necessarily anything wrong with it either.
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>>5778717
>So because someone is part of a minority group they default have to have a hard-on for all other minority groups?

Nah. But if you're the first one discriminating different people, don't be surprised when people will discriminate you because you're different. Because that's what you deserve.
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>>5778749
Fuck off with your kikery.
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>>5778724
I'm a Euro-American above all too. Faggots aren't my people.
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>>5778755
>that burn
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>>5775782
Anon, Trump will just have another nervous breakdown and cancel when the moderator proves disinterested in sucking his dick.

Which is for the best. If he were present, he'd have to argue with a person that knows things.
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>>5774596
He's the most secular, progressive republican candidate. And he's going to give the people who hate us most out of the country.

Who else do you have, Clinton and her appalling record of gay rights?
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>>5778755
Omg, people won't like me! Big fucking deal.
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>>5778780
Yeah. Then one night they will beat you to death on the street like they do here, just because you're not like everybody else.
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>>5778717
It's useful for appearance and power politics, which is obviously all that matters
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>>5778791
>thinking I care about that
Oh, scary! At least my grave won't be trampled on by hordes of mudslimes like what's happening in Europe.
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>>5778755
I'm gay and I agree with this post.
>>5778749
People won't discriminate against me though because I'm not a flaming faggot and I keep my sexual preferences private and in the bedroom.
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>>5778804
>ow the edge
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>>5778791
>actually coming out
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>>5778815
It's the truth, faggot.
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>>5778804
>I don't care about being dead!
How about getting deported in a country full of terrorists with a civil war on?
How does that sound?
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>>5778822
I don't empathize with middle easterners. I don't care if they're also lgbt, or that their husbands beat them, or that some other sect wants to genocide them, or that they are starving. It's not our problem to solve or feel guilty about.
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>>5778820
>ow the edge part 2: im gonna go home and listen to linkin park
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>>5778856
>using "edge" out of context

>>>/reddit/
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>>5778849
>I don't empathize with middle easterners.
Do it now then. Would you like to be deported just because you're different?
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>>5778849
>literally admitting to being a psychopath
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>>5778874
>different
>Implying coloreds are human

C'mon now, anon, you're getting silly.
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>>5778902
>implying faggots are humans
Your /pol/ memes aren't that effective considering the amount of cock you want to suck daily.
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>>5778874
>Would you like to be deported just because you're different?
If my culture, worldview, and behavior were entirely incongruent with my host country, then yes I'd accept deportation. We aren't just a liberal platform for anyone in the world to prance on in and just "exist" upon. The whole reason a nation is a nation and not just a plot of land is because it has a distinct people, law, and culture that differentiate it from the rest of the world.
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>>5778919
Why do my views upset you so much? I'm not the one calling for destroying one's culture.
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>>5778900
Dunbar's number you fucking mongoloid.
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>>5778942
>I'm not the one calling for destroying one's culture.
>he says, literally being a gay homo faggot queer
J E J
E
J
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>>5778965
>implying that 2% of people dropping out of the reproduction game is morally equivalent of flooding a country with foreigners and making the native population a minority.

Worked out really well for the indians, lol.
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>>5778948
>literally being this assblasted
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>>5778982
>implying dropping out of the reproductive game is all fags do
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>>5778982
AHAHAHAHA BUT YOU'RE DOING MORE THAN THAT

YOU'RE SPREADING COMPLETELY PREVENTABLE STD'S BECAUSE YOUR FELLOW GAY MEN BELIEVE GETTING A GOOD FUCK IN THE ASS IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN LIVING PAST 40

YOU SERIOUSLY BELIEVE YOUR """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""MARRIAGES"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" ARE LEGIT WHEN THE ONLY REASON THEY STAY STABLE IS BECAUSE OF KEKOLDRY

HOLY FUCKING SHIT MAN
HOW THE FUCK CAN YOU BE THIS DELUSIONAL

JUST
FUCK
MY
KEKS
UP
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>>5778942
>I'm not the one calling for destroying one's culture.

You literally are, anon. Your kind is seen as pretty much the antichrist in most conservatives and traditional countries.
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>>5779002
When did I say anything about gay sex, or marriages, faggot?

>>5779005
>implying there isn't a third way that is neither left nor right
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>>5779002
>YOU'RE SPREADING COMPLETELY PREVENTABLE STD'S
No one here has any STDs most likely
>BECAUSE YOUR FELLOW GAY MEN
Fellow? We're not a club, obviously we have different lifestyles but I will admit there's a lot of homos that are promiscuous degenerates who spread these diseases, they're their own group.
YOU SERIOUSLY BELIEVE YOUR """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""MARRIAGES"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" ARE LEGIT
I don't think gays should get have marriages
>HOLY FUCKING SHIT MAN
HOW THE FUCK CAN YOU BE THIS DELUSIONAL
You seem like the delusional one, your entire perspective is centered upon a straw man.
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>>5779014
>implying the third way doesn't still want you dead
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At this point it's either Trump who claims to be neutral on LGBT and hasn't done anything to act for or against it, or Hilary Clinton who claims to be pro LGBT but only very recently and has acted against it.
Fucked either way, but Trump is the safer option
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>>5779017
Just because you don't do it doesn't mean that thousands of others just like you don't :^)

http://www.towleroad.com/2015/11/cdc-sti-rates/
http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2013/06/26/most_gay_couples_aren_t_monogamous_will_straight_couples_go_monogamish.html
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Absolute monarchy when?

I'm just counting the days until the American public finally comes to a consensus that we need Leviathan to exist.
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>>5779005
>Your kind is seen as pretty much the antichrist
Politicized gays are literally the antichrist, but not all gays center their ideology around their sexual proclivities.
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>>5779031
Your shitty """""country""""" is already a neo-feudalist failed state of cuckoldry by the super-rich to begin. You probably should go all the way, because why stop pretending?
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>>5779036
Many traditional conservatives see it inherent in homosexuality

And a lot of the trump supporters itt do so on base of their sexuality
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>>5779030
>Just because you don't do it doesn't mean that thousands of others just like you don't :^)
Yea, I know and fuck them, I'm not one of them and there's a lot of homos who find them detestable. No one here, myself included, is trying to be apologists for these people. What's so hard to comprehend here?
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>>5779014
>implying there isn't a third way that is neither left nor right
My county has around 60 parties, anon. As I said, only you Americans see everything black or white.

Still, do you realize that a fully-christian country would rather get invaded by Muslims than faggots? Think about that for a moment.
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>>5779045
>Many traditional conservatives see it inherent in homosexuality
I don't blame them because the prevailing image in the media of a homosexual is one embodies everything conservatives hate.
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>>5779048
>im a good boy i don rape no white girls
It's not your fault but it is your problem
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>>5779039
Leviathan isn't a feudal state. It's an individualist commonwealth whose subjects vest their common authority into a singular person, Leviathan, which is borne by one man, the Sovereign.

This is what happens when politically illiterate people try to argue about anything - they pretend to know more than they do.
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>>5779054
Think about the fact that I have a right to not have to see shitskins in my neighborhoods, or my towns, and that your idealistic bullshit doesn't sway me.
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>>5779068
>I need a safe space pls no trigger me
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>>5779063
>equating me with an uncle tom nigger
I'm white, outside of my sexual orientation my worldview and way of thinking is that of most sane Europeans. Tell me again how this is "my" problem?
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>>5779057
And who is it that promotes that brand of homosexuality or transsexualism? The JEWS!!!

>the moment you realize identity politics are just here to divide caucasians
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>>5779074
Because gays have a higher rate of stds, drug use, suicide, etc and you're gay.
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>>5779048
>Yeah, I know the people in ISIS are enacting a brutal expansionist regime of extremist Islam, but fuck them! A lot of Muslims find them detestable, including me :^))))))
This is what you sound like, just saying
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>>5779068
Think about the fact that I have a right to not have to see literal cocksuckers in my neighborhoods, or my towns.
You fucking faggot.
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>>5779077
duh
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>>5779081
>and you're gay.
and I don't spread STDs, use drugs, or contemplate suicide.

How am I responsible for the actions of those that do?
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>>5779068
>I have a right

You literally don't.
Also talking about rights isn't really smart, mr "I would be considered mentally ill if I was born 30 years earlier".
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>>5779085
Have fun living with the ape people. I hope your daughter, wife, or mother don't have to bear the brunt of your naivety.
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>>5779082
>This is what you sound like, just saying
It's also not an equal comparison because dysfunction among gays isn't the same as an Islamic caliphate attempting to kill everyone not-muslim.
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>>5779101
Literally the first amendment of the Bill of Rights, dipshit.

Freedom of association. It's the part of that amendment that they don't talk about much anymore.
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>>5779098
Because you're part of the group that other people put you in. You can scream "IM A GOOD GAY" all day long like all the muzzies who do so every time some german woman's raped but it doesn't change anything
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>>5779068
>just got the rights not to be discriminated
>claims he needs a right to discriminate
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>>5779103
It's cute how you try to fit in with the /pol/ crowd, when far righters absolutely want n o t h i n g to do with you, and would gladly exterminate your cock smoking ass if they had the chance and they could get away with it.
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>>5779107
That's not what that means you literal retard. Unless you create a political party that's literally large enough to build its own town
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>>5779113
>again, thinking I care about my life

Cuck.

>>5779112
see >>5779107
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>>5779103
>Have fun living with the ape people
How? My people are hating them. You're the one that will have to deal with them.
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>>5779107
>Literally the first amendment of the Bill of Rights, dipshit

It says "I have the right not to have different people near the place where I live"?
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>>5779121
>ow the edge part 3: im not suicidal but I don't care about my life
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>>5779121
>thinking I care about my life
Then end it :^)
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>>5779108
>like all the muzzies
But it's not like all the muzzies. The muzzies share the same ideology, the "good" and the bad, so there's more reason to be against them. Homosexuality isn't an ideology, it's just a condition that dictates one part of ones identity, being their sexuality.
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>>5779121
But you're wrong, anon. Unless you have a huge political party. Do you?
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>>5779142
But it is the same because both are mental disorders :^)
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>>5779074
You're a faggot.
Both literal and metaphorical.
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>>5779151
Yea kind of, but of different degrees of severity.
>>5779152
A literal faggot is a bundle of sticks, I can confirm this is not me.
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>>5779169
>massively decreasing population replenishment rates
>spread stds like wildfire
>other mental illnesses out the wazoo
>more likely to commit violent crimes
Maybe not as bad but still fucking awful
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>>5779169
>different degrees of severity.
Yeah, at least you don't kill innocent villagers for the path of Allah.

Can't say much about your STD rates, suicide rates, drug epidemic, literal cuckoldry in marriage, and your subculture's creepy obsession with youth
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>>5779183
>more likely to commit violent crimes
Since when is this a stereotype of gays? Gays are renowned for being nonviolent pussies usually.

>massively decreasing population replenishment rates
this is mainly because heterosexual white people don't have nearly as many children as they used to and they aren't getting married either. Take it up with them.
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>>5779203
Some 60% of male serial killers are homosexual. And decreasing the potential breeding population by al least 5% has massive repercussions when there are so few children
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>>5779191
>and your subculture's creepy obsession with youth
I think it's the same reason women are obsessed with youth, but then again there's subcultures within the subculture that idolize older mature men as well, so this stereotype kind of fizzles out when we include that.
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>>5779209
>Some 60% of male serial killers are homosexual
Maybe homosexuality is a side effect of their psychopathy and not vice-versa? A lot of autistic people tend to be homosexual as well, when certain parts of the brain, primarily the ones regarding personal relationships, are dampened as a result of a psychological condition, homosexuality often is the most logical relationship to engage in, as it benefits the individual more, given they're male.

I don't think there's one cause to becoming homosexual, and thus all homosexuals can't be realistically clumped into one homogeneous group.

>And decreasing the potential breeding population by al least 5%
The alternative is gay men biting the bullet and getting a wife, which makes me think it wouldn't be the most healthy relationship given the attraction wouldn't quite be mutual.
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>>5779219
Creepy pedos and broken twinks with daddy issues don't have a subtractive effect lol
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>>5779242
>this damage control
Does it matter if it's a loving relationship if they have kids?
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>>5778777
Off by one.
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>>5778679
See >>5775752
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>>5778190
>What makes you guys think that he won't throw trans people under the bus
What makes you think we give a shit? What makes you think we're not more comfortable with voting for him because of that? I'm sick of seeing this movement hijacked by an ultraminority.
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>>5779245
>Creepy pedos and broken twinks with daddy issues
There's a lot of twinks who go for other twinks as well as "daddies" who go for those like them. It's the same way there's a lot of adult straight men who are into teenage girls, it's actually like one of the highest searched porn results on a lot of porn sites.

>>5779255
>damage control
pointing out flaws in your arguments is damage control? I'm not trying to be an apologist here, I'd totally be on your side and think homosexuality should be a criminal offense again but the fact I see so many weaknesses in the argument prevents me from doing so.
>Does it matter if it's a loving relationship if they have kids?
I don't know if it'd be a loving one if the father isn't even attracted to his wife.
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>>5778639
>Inmate# DIN DU 1488
kek
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>>5779317
Gay old for young rates are higher
>homosexuality should be a crime again
It should be punishable by death. The one thing those muzzies have right
>I don't know if it'd be loving
That doesn't matter, as long as kids are produced
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>>5779354
>Gay old for young rates are higher
Could be a lot of pedos or just a lot of repressed old guys who never got to have relationships when they were young. It's still too early to decide. It's also entirely possible that maybe younger people have more attractive and appealing features? Maybe? Just a guess?

>It should be punishable by death. The one thing those muzzies have right
I don't understand the reasoning you took to arrive at this conclusion.

>That doesn't matter, as long as kids are produced
Love does matter though, you of all people, judging by your rhetoric, should know that dysfunctional relationships between parents tend to beget dysfunction in their offspring.
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>>5779392
>Could be a lot of pedos or just a lot of repressed old guys who never got to have relationships when they were young. It's still too early to decide. It's also entirely possible that maybe younger people have more attractive and appealing features? Maybe? Just a guess?
This is that damage control I was talking about
>I don't understand the reasoning
Why wouldn't you get the death penalty for knowingly contributing to the downfall of the west (it's basically treason)
>love does matter though
Not really, the numbers matter
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>>5779419
>This is that damage control I was talking about
They're reasonable objections are they not? Just because they disagree with you doesn't make them damage control. I think you need to understand that I WANT to be proven wrong here because these questions have been plaguing me.

>Why wouldn't you get the death penalty for knowingly contributing to the downfall of the west
Well with this same logic would you also put single men to death as well since they aren't contributing to repopulation?
>Not really, the numbers matter
You ignored the last part of that sentence. The relationship between the parents matters otherwise you'll have kids who end up with a whole array of disorders and character flaws.
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>>5779446
>I want to be proven wrong
I don't understand how you can't see the obvious dysfunction inherent in homosexuals
>should you put single men to death because they aren't contributing to the population
The treason is inherent in the homosexual subculture, not just that they don't have kids
>the relationship matters because it could fuck up the kids later on
You could have some sort of state run facility to take the kids of dysfunctional parents
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>>5774984
>by the people who would see you destroyed
What Muslims? Uneducated Blacks? Spare us of the false flagging, trump is a capitalist at heart, if there's no profit he's not going do indulge it.
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>>5775710
Both means the same shit, the abrahamic god is the worst mustache twirling villain to have been spawned.
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>>5779478
>I don't understand how you can't see the obvious dysfunction inherent in homosexuals
There is in many, but not all, a significant portion are pretty boring and normal.

>The treason is inherent in the homosexual subculture
There's many homosexuals who do not participate in the subculture.

>You could have some sort of state run facility to take the kids of dysfunctional parents
A state facility isn't a healthy replacement for parents.
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>>5779541
>a significant portion are boring and normal
No they aren't, they just lack self awareness. The 'normal' ones just think they aren't diseased.
>there are many who don't participate in the subculture
Subculture used in broadest terms, I.e. any homosexual
>a state run facility isn't a healthy replacement for parents
It's probably better than dysfunctional parents if it's well run
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>>5778693
>watch him talk for a few minutes
>he talks about how the big companies control the politics, how they by paying for the candidates's election can later ask big favors from those elected
I wonder why no one tried to kill him yet, want to know what happens when big companies pay your candidates? Look at brazil.

>>5778699
>implying I'll bow down so any nigger can feel superior
You srs?
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>>5778749
So let me get this straight, because I'm part of a minority group, which doesn't mean that by default there's anything wrong with me, I should accept any other minorities, including those with proven reasons to be discriminated against? Are you legitimately retarded?
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>>5779622
>is gay
>"there's nothing wrong with me"
WEW
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>>5778856
>ow I have no arguments better try to insult him
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>>5779582
>The 'normal' ones just think they aren't diseased.
No, the normal ones realize they're abnormal, ironically, but they don't craft their identity around that.
>Subculture used in broadest terms, I.e. any homosexual
A group of punks is a subculture, a man who listens to punk music but isn't a punk is not a member of the punk subculture. Likewise, a homosexual can't accurately be a participant in the subculture as he doesn't get involved in the cultural aspects present in the LGBT subculture (ie: gay bars, pride parades, etc.). And you've still failed to point out what qualities of someone being homosexual are necessarily treasonous.
>It's probably better than dysfunctional parents if it's well run
But it's not because it's not their biological parents. Your motivations seem more focused on the dislike of homosexuals than actually helping the children of a nation.

>>5779600
>I wonder why no one tried to kill him yet
He wears a bullet proof vest to every event he hosts apparently and security at these events has gotten increasingly tighter.
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>>5779633
>ow im going through all the old posts for some reason because I'm a fag with nothing better to do
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>>5779002
>caps
>you're
I mean this thread was b8 for retarded discussions from the beginning, but seriously?
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>>5779082
>comparing HIV to ISIS
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>>5779632
Unless you're thinking about a strawman no being gay doesn't mean there's anything wrong with me.
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>>5779643
>no, the normal ones realize they're abnormal but don't craft their identity around it
I've absolutely never met any gay man in my life who was completely straight acting; even those who profess exactly what you say about how they're the good gays are still flamboyant on some level. Gayness is probably caused by higher levels of estrogen and it shows
>a homosexual can't be considered part of the subculture if he doesn't get involved in the cultural parts
Having gay sex is a core part of that culture
>and you still have failed to point out what qualities of someone being homosexual makes them treasonous
It's self evident
>your motives seem more to focus on your dislike of homosexuals
That's probably true
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>>5779644
>oww all I know is greentexting without any actual arguments or point, I hope I get someone mad because I have nothing better to do
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>>5779669
It means you have a mental disorder and have higher chances of being a worthless leech on society
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>>5779679
I'm not fat or a woman so no there's no chance I'll be obese or lazy.
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>>5779689
You post on 4chan and are literally gay, do you need any more proof of your worthlessness?
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>>5779711
Yes I do, if I take care of my family and earn my money how am I worthless and who are you to judge?
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>>5779672
>I've absolutely never met any gay man in my life who was completely straight acting
So? I've met a lot of faggy straight guys too.
>even those who profess exactly what you say about how they're the good gays are still flamboyant on some level
How many gays have you actually met? My impression is you just are familiar with the gays you "see" which shouldn't need explaining why it seems all gays are flamboyant.
>Gayness is probably caused by higher levels of estrogen and it shows
Maybe, but there's a lot of masculine guys that are probably bigger and hairier than you that are hella gay so I don't think that theory is quite correct.
>Having gay sex is a core part of that culture
It's part of it but like I said it take more than that to be part of the subculture.
>It's self evident
That's not a reason f a m.
>That's probably true
Then you have your own issues to deal with. I could understand if you were against gays out of concern for others but because your motivation is mere spite it doesn't seem like there's any amount of points I can make to convince you otherwise. You're adamant on being totally against all gays and you have no reason for being so outside of "there's a lot that I don't like, so it's easier to just get rid of all of them".
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Campaign stump speeches and promises are meaningless. I base my voting on what the candidate has already done in public office or in private life.
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>>5779721
>his family is so pathetic the gay has to take care of them
You should kill yourself and your whole family
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>>5779747
And why should I care about the opinions of a butthurt anon from 4chan?
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>>5779726
>I've met a lot of faggy straight guys
They probably will reproduce
>how many gays have you actually met
If you mean like got to know them up close and personal then15 or so, and hardly an once of testosterone between them
>there's a lot of masculine gays
And they're still flamboyant af
>but it takes more than that
Not to be treasonous
>that's not a reason
See Munchhausen's trilema
>it's easier to get rid of all of them
I don't see why that's invalid. I mean there might be some short term costs but you gotta break eggs to make an omelette
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>>5779761
Because im right
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>>5779781
>f you mean like got to know them up close and personal then15 or so,
You know more gay guys then I do and I'm literally gay.
>I don't see why that's invalid
Because your view is completely utilitarian and there's numerous issues that arise when you construct a society based off of that. Soon it becomes a matter of merely picking off whatever group whoever is in charge finds distasteful.
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>>5779850
For some reason my first job was full of homosexuals
>that's a totally utilitarian society
I see no problem
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>>5779861
>For some reason my first job was full of homosexuals
what was it?
>I see no problem
The problem is that no one person knows what's best for all people, everyone is flawed. This is why we [probably] created the idea of God: as something higher than man to be obedient to. Authoritarianism will usually fail.
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>>5779882
>what was it
Cashier at a pharmacy
>no one knows what's best
Create a totalitarian state where the people don't know the party doesn't know what's best a la North Korea
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>>5779894
>Create a totalitarian state where the people don't know the party doesn't know what's best a la North Korea
North Koreans are miserable though, and a lot of them actually are aware of the west a la black market peddlers of western media across the border. In this day and age there are no things easily hidden. You won't be able to control the people in such a manner that they aren't aware the government doesn't know what's best; people aren't that stupid anyway.

>Cashier at a pharmacy
a lot of gays get into healthcare or pharmacy it seems. Must also have something to do with our naturally above average IQs :^)
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>two fags arguing on the internet without letting up

Remember guys, it's like the Special Olympics. Even if you """win""", you're still retarded. Everyone who's spectating thinks it's pitiful.
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>>5780000
nice shitpost
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>>5774995

This is all very well and good, but while we're playing identity politics, let me accede to this petty frame, and play the most important identity politics of all: my own.

I am a white bisexual man, most hated of all. The left hates me because I'm a white guy. The right hates me because I'm queer. Therefore, correct management of the rest of the world by me requires that I periodically throw each side under the bus as is my convenience. I cannot be my whole self with either, except in some blessed Rocky-Horror fantasy. And yes, it is all about me. The minute "it", whatever it is, deviates from being all about me, that by definition is "its" failure.

It now seems to me that there is something more fundamental than Dick. And that is that I"m a white guy with an education and a little bit of money and everybody extra-hates me at the moment. This musn't lead to any further erosion of Muh Privilege, therefore I want a head of state who will stay this a bit. It seems to me that Trump is the guy, and it's merciful that he personally is not particularly religious or conservative. Trump is the blessed cypher into which I can read my own perverse needs, as can others more common narratives.

And if gay marriage is rolled back, boo fucking hoo. But as for more substantive things like housing and employment laws... Hence my (D) check, which I detail below.
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>>5780018

I have started to conceptualize the above into a personal vote strategy. Last election, I split my vote across various offices, in an effort to stymie and frustrate the aims of the various factions, prevent any one side from achieving its aims too easily, serve myself above all, and keep the ship of state and corporate retirement accounts running smoothly (it is a one-party system with two aspects, after all). I'm getting older, and this seems to me to be the first properly informed, adult voting tactic that I've really thought about and can intellectually honestly (and better, cynically) continue to implement beyond the partisan.

This is the year that the SJWs go under the bus on general principles... but with a check. I will probably fill in multiple (D)s in the minor offices come November. I reserve the right to throw the rednecks under the bus again, which is also pleasurable.
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>>5780000
>>5780000
>>5780000
quads for truth
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>>5779085
>Think about the fact that I have a right to not have to see literal cocksuckers in my neighborhoods, or my towns.
You're opposed to women sucking cock?
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Can anyone else explain how Trump is anywhere close to bad for us?

> has supported gay causes in past
> only now pandering to GOP voters
> even then nothing dramatic, just blindly repeating "I believe in traditional marriage"
> will be restrictive on immigration which means LESS homophobes in the US

Trump at most would make a face if he saw me making out with a man, but then move on. Maybe at most say "I wish they didn't do that in public!" That's it. I do not fear this mean over my sexuality. My 4th amendment rights and iPhone, maybe, but not being homo.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IrE6FMpai8
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>>5781200
hey

that's pretty good
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