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sisterhood of the traveling bantz edition


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old >>5758689

Let's do our best today, girls!
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>>5760864
Fuck off rawr. Kayla is better than you. Kayla is far more beautiful than you.

And most importantly SHE'S ACTUALLY A WOMAN. Fuck off to where creepy fat bald gay men like yourself hang around.
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>>5760890
rawrs not that bad. I dunno
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>tfw hon forever
a-at least i tried
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>>5760890
hi kayla :3
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>>5760890
you dropped your trip Kayla
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>>5760894
Fuck off rawr no-one likes you.
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>>5760890
I have been mistaken for rawr.
It's an abstract kind of feel.
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>>5760898
>>5760899
Nice samefagging Christopher
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>>5760896
Did you cut yourself shaving?
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>>5760860
Also I made you some OC. I doubt you'll listen to it, but maybe at least someone will.

>>5760859
That's understandable.
How far along in transition are you?

>>5760896
You look like a girl ya dingus
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>>5760901
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>>5760905
y-yeah i'm only on my 3rd session of laser so i still have to shave and it's terrible
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>>5760890
Did you have to do that?

>>5760883
where did you find that pic of me?

>>5760896
pass
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>>5760890
Stop trolling yourself Michelle, you pass unlike anyone here.
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>>5760896
>ywn see lewd webms of cheska sophie and kiwi 3way
why live
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>>5760903
>posted less than one second apart
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>>5760916
>tfw no webm of them cucking each other
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>>5760913
Be sure to repost that picture of him each time he shittalks you.

You are beautiful and that hon Christopher needs to learn his place.
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>>5760916
you should see davids cock inside cheska's mouth
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>>5760916
sorry anon i'm into monogamy
and boys
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>>5760913
Go away mockery.

>>5760909
The things people do to live out their fetishes.
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>>5760921
can we not do this at all?
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Ugh, fine. Time to shave all the places, then hit the gym. Doing my best is annoying.

To respond to the poll from last thread in detail, I'm not fulltime but will be at roughly 7 months HRT, because that's when I'll have sufficient financial security (and projected facial hair reduction) to make it plausible/safe. I'll also have roommates to socialize with even if I'm too miserable to go out.
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>>5760896
Could you, korra and kayla just stop posting pictures of yourselves. You disgust me beyond belief.
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>>5760927
He's been harassing you for years and needs to learn his place. You deserve to be happy more than he does.
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>>5760921
Christopher? Since when are Polish slavshits named Christopher?
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>>5760929
Korra explicitly cannot stop posting pictures of herself, because she has an adorable hopeful-shy smile that melts my heart.
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>>5760929
I 2nd that. Enough is enough.
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>>5760934
The ugliest ones usually are.
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>>5760896
Lmao you can pass as Hellen Keller, can't even tell you look like a chick and can't hear everyone gender you F
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>>5760896
You pass for Ayn Rand.
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fuck you you fucking gross anime posting transbian dipshits, stop hugboxing each other already
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well, so much for coming out. i get the pleasure of having the blame pinned on me for moving out by my mum's ultimatum, for choosing to be such a disgusting and repulsive person.
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>ywn play hockey for the third reich
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>>5760957
Fuck off faggot.
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>>5760955
Fuck off rawr. You're the only ugly one here.
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>>5760896
holic if he transitioned 10 years earlier/5
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>>5760955
I don't post anime, only my beautiful self.
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>>5760890
Pretty, feminine girlface.

>>5760896
People are ragging to fuck. You look cute.
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>>5760958
I hate when I run out of estrogen and can't fill my script too
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>>5760961
Edgar 2.0 in the works
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>>5760967
Who's Edgar? I see this all the time
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>>5760961
Ur beautiful hon
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>>5760967
More like finished version of edgar.

>>5760965
Completely wasted on you. You'll forever be a loser faggot no matter what you do.
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>>5760970
I dunno lol
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>>5760906
>that divide by self-hatred cubed
uh oh
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>>5760906
>0.03125
I-Is this a good score?
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>>5760906
Im 9 months hrt, been praticing my voice for most of that time and had like 5 sessions of laser and bit of electro to get rid of some red hairs
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>>5760970
A trip that went by OlRapeyFace and Noelle, trips hugboxed him despite him being extremely creepy and posting pictures of himself in fetish wear and at bdsm events. His posts were really cringy and anons called him out for being mental but it wasnt until someone found out he had been stalking people here for years and everyone told him to leave
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>>5760974
Fuck off rawr.
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>>5760906
>tfw 0.00274
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>>5760991
>it wasnt until someone found out he had been stalking people here for years
>
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Well I knew there was a reason I only posted as anon.
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>>5760991
You forgot to mention his interest in scat and vomit, among other things.

>>5760993
Man I am telling you I am not rawr.
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>>5760906
I have 7 happiness. What can I spend it on?
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>>5760982
oh right the math
um
.05664
>>5760988
it scales from .02 to 200 so no
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>>5760991
OH SNAP. Spoopy....
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>>5760990
Honestly, if you've been practicing your voice that whole time, you're probably going to have very few issues when you go ft.

>>5760988
;~;
Not really, definitely work on that self hatred

>>5760997
What values are you feeding it to get that?
All the variables are supposed to be in the range [1,10]

>>5760991
>trips hugboxed him
I would like to take this opportunity to remind people that I was a megabitch to him from the get go.
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>>5761005
>it scales from .02 to 200 so no
JUST
U
S
T
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>>5760906
That is the most neckbeard thing I saw all day.
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I'm at 7 months when do hormones start working
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>>5761010
Doin the Lords work elanna.
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>>5761003
And the huge list of "disabilities"
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>>5761018
Spaaaarky! How are you? Looking girlier by the minute. Soon you won't be able to post on /femgen.
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>>5761010
passing = 1
attractiveness = 1
self- hatred = 9
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>>5760896
try actually passing
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>>5761018
remove 1 cm of your face length from the nose and trim brows and you'll be fine
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>>5761005
>.02 to 200
0.002 to 200, actually.
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>>5761018
image flipped

>>5761024
I've only posted there like once although I'm considering just migrating permanently if I don't pass.
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>>5761018

You look really good but just need laser on the five o clock shadow.
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>>5760957
they all look like cis boys to me

there's no way you could guess which one of them would turn out a tranny
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>>5761012
Kiwi and you have to stop this shit, who are you trying to convince?
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>>5761031
oh right, 10^3 is 1000
sorry
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>>5761010
>hon misgenders another hon
classic
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>>5760906
>.028
seems high desu
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>>5761010
I feel like my voice could be better I slip up alot when im not talking into a mic to myself
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>>5761032
sexy emo boy/5
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>>5760961
You claim that you pass in real life but I don't believe you. You look too much like a man. This pic >>5760971 seriously looks like the over-the-hill edgy male host of a ghost hunting reality show. Besides, you've already made it clear that you have a host of mental problems and are literally delusional.

Would anyone so secure with themselves really need to post so many pictures seeking validation from people literally half of their age? No.
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>>5760906
.012
god damn I am unhappy
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>>5761014
Thanks, I felt inspired while I was rearranging my body pillows

>>5761025
;_;

>>5761044
>implying rapeyface is trans

>>5761051
Sucks ;_;
I have the same problem but never quite figured out how to fix it. For the most part it doesn't hurt passing too much unless you're having an extended conversation.
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>>5761062
don' t forget to clean your fighting stick
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>>5761060
And retarded.
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>>5761060
>kayla is demonstrably happier than me
My instincts tell me life shouldn't be so horrible.
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>>5761064
she doesn't have one of those anymore
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>>5761056
What makes you think I'm seeking validation? Attention, yeah. Making fun of the self-proclaimed and self-hating "non passers", yeah. Validation? I'm way past needing any.
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>>5761076
You must be lonely.
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>>5761064
Thanks for the reminder, it was getting a bit covered in doritos dust and grease.
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>>5760896
You should probably part your hair differently. Seems kind of hipster boyish. And thin the outside of your eyebrows.
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>>5761062
they are autistic but it gives you no right to misgender them
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>>5761079
Less than I used to be, more than I'd like.
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>tfw you look like a man
>tfw you will always be a man
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>>5761086
.__.
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>tfw too late to transition
Now what?
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>>5761081
I understand. It's hard to care when you are depressed and erp-ing here.
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>>5760896
Pluck your eye brows you scruff

And think like a hon and a hon you shall be! Attention whore
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>>5761092
suffering
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>>5761092
No such thing as too late...
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>>5761092
/femgen
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>>5761092
Just take estrogen and keep fapping, that's what I'm doing
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>>5761092
Become neet and avoid real life, it's pretty nice.

>tfw sleep all the time, wake up late and just do escapism things

>>5761101
Fucking kill yourself hon trash.
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>>5761062
Dont ever tell me that some form of agp does not exist with people like Edgar in existence.
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>>5761062
dw senpai, it's not a 0.0020 at least!
>>5761069
>tfw least happy person in this thread
>>5761087
>mfw this was true since i turned 15
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>>5761092
>>5761107
>>5761100
>>5761109
>mtfg in a nutshell
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>>5761115
at 16 i still had a chance of becoming a tall and elegant woman.
then 17 happened and now i will always look weirdly disproportionate no matter how much i "pass"
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>>5761117
Full of well adjusted individuals.
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>>5761084
Edgar has enough issues that I think any shrink would have a very hard time taking their word for it without a period of gatekeeping. Edgar at no point gave any indication they were trans, insisted on using a male name multiple times over, and kept posting gross photos of a body that supposedly caused dysphoria. Then there's the stalking and shit.

I'll believe edgar is trans when I see a GID diagnosis, not before.

>>5761111
Quads don't lie. I don't believe in agp but every once in awhile...

>>5761096
I'm actually in a pretty good mood lately.
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I've been on hrt for 2 months and my bobs have grown super-fast.
Just curious, if I de-transitioned now would my boobs disappear??
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>>5761115
>tfw looked like an adult man at 13 years old.
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>>5761125
>had a chance of becoming a tall and elegant woman
I don't think so.

>>5761129
Give it time.
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>>5761130
reee

probably not fully anymore but likely to lose some size
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>>5761130
>tfw 101 years on hrt
>tfw no bobs
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>>5761135
>what anon thinks
>the truth
pick one
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>>5761130
They get smaller with no E but you'll still have something.
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>>5761133
Are you just up?
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>>5760906
>0.9375
I think I'm on my way out of the hole?
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>>5761146
What?
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>>5761141
Do you still have something?
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>>5761135
Give what time? o.o

>>5761149
Definitely a start ^^

>>5761133
Prove it lain
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>>5761152
Yup.
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>>5761151
Have you just woken up?
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Alright you fruits, I tried the help general and they were useless so now I've come to degenerate HQ.
If I wanted to be a girl and took titty skittles but it didn't make make me a cute girl and I just wanted to just be an ugly man again, how much would that cost? I know the sterilization is irreversible but that's probably for the best anyways.
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>>5761152
Watashoo detransitioned??
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Hi /mtfg/

What's your shoulder circumference?

39" reporting in, but I'm a CLAMP noodleperson.
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>>5761159
stopping the titty skittles is free though
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>>5761163
42 inches ;___;
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>>5761159
>wanting to ask important questions related to transitioning
>not shitposting and circlejerking as a trip with people you hate the most instead
lol
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>tfw even my mom called my red lipstick a "Whoreish, fuck me" color
well fuck, who has that lipstick color chart?
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>>5761159
Depends. If you grow hueg oppai, then you'd have to have them chopped off, like FtMs do.

If your hips have already fused, then everything else is reversible. Otherwise, you'll have child-bearing hips regardless, but no one will suspect anything anyway unless they're really wide.
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>>5761163
34
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>>5761155
I don't have pics from that early.

>>5761158
No but I just got out of bed.
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>>5761155
hi elanna

nice trip
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>>5761170
even your own mom thinks you are nothing but a disgusting fetishist and is now probably regretting she didn't have an abortion

shame on you
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>>5761163
how do you measure that without a second person?
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>>5761176
That's what 'just up' would mean my swede friend. Your sleep schedule is fucked.
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>>5761182
You can't, you have to have a bf to do it for you.
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>>5761164
>>5761172
>6,500 USD or free
Oh fuck that's reasonable.
Thanks senpaitachi.
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>>5761182
>>5761186
what, shoulders around is easy
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>>5761170
> Out shopping with mom, don't give fucks and will happily shop in boymode alone, but it's more fun with other people.
> Half the time I'd think to myself 'hey, this outfit might work' and she'd immediately say something to the effect of 'no daughter of mine is going to wear that sort of skankish clothing'!

Mom, I love you, but it's the 21st century and women don't need to wear skirts that go below their knees.

>>5761174
;_;, mad jelly.
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Something trees grass
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>>5761189
>f a m s is filtered special
Way to go the extra mile mootwo.
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>>5761159
if you transitioned after 19 then you won't see much difference before and after hormones

except you will be sterile from now, your boobs won't go away and your penis will possibly never get erect again
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>>5761189
no problem fama llama
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>>5761170
I know I'm a degenerate when I laughed reading this.
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>>5761186
>you have to have a bf
so it's pretty much impossible.
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>>5761182
Dexterity. It's not a perfect measurement, but an approx. is perfectly fine.

It should be done right around where your armpit is.
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>>5761170
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>>5761125
fug, after 14 i never stood a chance.
>>5761133
but then you would look manlier than me. are you imblying that's even possible?
>>5761198
>tfw started before 19 and there is still no difference
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fuck it im moving to femgen later faggots
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Do this kind of cut makes my shoulders smaller?
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>>5761198

>Yes, daddy chaser likes you how you are, why would you ruin your beautiful gt
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>>5761207
See you tomorrow.
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>>5761204
>It should be done right around where your armpit is.
ahh, well that seems easier.
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>>5761208
no it makes them bigger, weirdly enough just having them open makes them 'smaller'
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>>5761184
Maybe but I don't mind, I feel like I pay less attention to how manly and disgusting I look when it's dark all the time.
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>>5761101
stop posting pictures of yourself old man
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>>5761209
wuut
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>>5761198
>tfw started at 19 and there was a massive difference
YMMV, genetics, etc.

>>5761176
But you could phone up your parents and say "someone on 4chan wants me to provide photographic proof of how manly I was at 13 years old because I said that I was manly at 13 years old"
I mean, when you put the statement in those terms it sounds almost ridiculous, no?

>>5761178
Hi gem how's it going?
And thanks ^^
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>>5761163
42". I am certainly not a Clamp noodle person.

>>5761167
Shoulder circumference buddy! We can cry together into our non-alcoholic fruit drinks.

Any day now, CAMH will stop being the exclusive chokepoint for trans surgery in Ontario. Any day now.
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>tfw no big black cock(s) inside me
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>>5761205
thanks
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>>5761221
Yeeaaahhh they don't understand us young people
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>>5761208
It's not bad. Pretty typical way to do it.
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>>5761208
Your shoulders are 100% cis looking. Heck, you look cis so whatever.

Generally, cuts like pic related works. Why does it work? Because you're drawing attention to a positive attribute ('dem clavs), while distracting from the contrast between waist/hips and the shoulders.

Generally people with broad/boxy shoulders actually have very nice-looking shoulders as well. This is the perfect way of showing off your assets.
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>>5761228

oddish go away
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>>5761209
if you were to live as a man, you probably want a working mantonkler
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>>5761225
I'm frustrated with my voice but other than that I'm good

I got pretty drunk with my gf last night which was really fun
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>>5761225
>using male voice
ew no
Doesn't even matter how manly I was back then when i'm a disgusting man beast now.
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>>5761163
I know they're 17 inch wide ;_;
What would that be about circumference wise?
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>>5761243
You don't have to use male voice, baka

You did practice your voice, yes?
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>>5761244
Just over double that
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>>5761208
how about passers stop posting their pictures here pls
most of us are depressed enough without having to see successful people flaunt
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>>5761163
43" What the hell

I'm 5'11" so m-maybe it's ok

>>5761208 (me)
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>>5761251
Would 38 be a fair guess?
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>>5761252
So stop being a loser.
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Do you believe in Christ Jesus?
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>>5761252
I started hormones because people posted things like that.
>hope
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>>5761244
Just put one end of your measuring tape up against your ribs, fling the other end behind your back, then use your free hand to draw the trailing end up and around your shoulders. Take your measure where the tape meets up with the fixed end, naturally.
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>>5761163
Last time I measured was shoulder to shoulder 16 inches I dont have a tape measure atm
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>>5761252
new idea
you leave
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>>5761251
> Tfw 17" shoulders side to side.
> Tfw biacrominal is smack in the middle of the female range.

FUCKING. PUBERTY. My body still looks like a skinny guy's instead of that of a girl. Fuck this world.
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>>5761259
i don't believe he was the son of god and i don't believe in the god he claims to have represented
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>>5761252
Why this thread should be for all mtfs
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>>5761246
It's shit though and I don't think my mom would appreciate her manly son calling her in some tranny voice.
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>>5761256
Sounds about right buddy. Which is not all that bad.
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yay i finished the performance review i had to write for english class
it's probably terrible but it's like 500 words and i can't think of anything else to write and i covered everything so i'm done
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>>5761259
Sure why not. Seems like he existed and he was a pretty cool dude.

>>5761240
Niceu
May have done a lot of drinking with a certain girl this week as well. Great times.
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Is there any surgery to get fix my shoulders?

Please tell me there is. I don't care if it's a lie.
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>>5761260
hope is a farce

>>5761269
I wish I could

>>5761280
you mean the hot ones should make the ugly ones feel like shit thereby boosting their already huge ego even more
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I've never seen someone take that much acid before man
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will hip abductions give me child beaaring hips?
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>>5761290
fucking go outside
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>>5761293
...No.
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>>5761293
>hip abductions
probably not
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>>5761293
probably not but I do it cuz it anyway cuz it makes them feel bigger
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Trans support group starts in 10 minutes

I want to die.
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>>5761294
no, outside is full of cis people and i hate them
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>>5761293
Yes. Abduct all the hips in the world. Target mothers, if you want child-bearing hips.
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>>5761289
BA can make them appear smaller
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did you know that jörmies was on the walking dead?

rip
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>>5761294
oops thumbnail
better version
>>5761303
do something other than whine
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>>5761302
Crack on
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>>5761302
why would you go to a trans group? that is the worst idea ever
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will squats give me child bearing hips?
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>Mfw the effects of two years of HRT is reversed in one year

Welp, that was fun...
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>>5761316
Because I hate myself.

I'll report back. Going in now.
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>>5761302
>tfw you described /cd/ as an "online support group"
>tfw this may be the reason why my therapist never forced that shit on me
That sucks though anon, good luck
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>>5761313
Crrack
>>5761318
Nope!
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>>5761318
...No.
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>>5761308
BA to an 30E [34E? +4] confirmed.

Fuck these shoulders.
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>>5761318
hip bridges are best for you giving you a butte, still won't give you hips probably
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>>5761321
>tfw the effects of three years of hrt is reversed in 3-4 weeks
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holy fuck everyone should switch to injectable estradiol. its so quick and easy and only once a week
>>5761326
but they will give you a great ass
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>>5761290
Idk how the hell you cook up shit like that in your head but no one posts pictures of themselves for the sole reason of making others feel like shit
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>>5761311
>do something other than whine
well I have to clean the pool but I don't want to because its fucking huge
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will anything give me child bearing hips
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>>5761318
No, but they'll give you a nice butt.
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>>5761318
If you keep chugging those protein shakes
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>>5761336
do it
>>5761338
bearing a child
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>>5761334
And you get needles everybody wins
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>>5761323
kek, I said that too

>>5761318
yes
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>>5761334
>but they will give you a great ass
... Not necessarily.
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>>5761318
side laying leg raises
in theory
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>>5761327
Also im pretty sure you can get fat injections on your hips which would obviously put less emphasis on your sholders
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>>5761302
Time stamp and weapon of choice please
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>>5761335
>no one posts pictures of themselves for the sole reason of making others feel like shit

Gloat: contemplate or flaunt one's own success with smugness or malignant pleasure.

Passers know they pass and like to show that fact off to people like me who will never have the nice life they have.
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>>5761334
Have you tried patches?
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>>5761342
>>5761318
>child bearing hips?

Oh, that, nope, that's a female exclusive

Also, Cooper's ligaments
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cooper's_ligaments
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>>5761361
Don't you post your boobs and butt all the time for exactly that purpose?
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>>5761285
Looks huge to me
Could just be fat or dysphoria that makes them look huge though
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>>5761365
>Cooper's ligaments
Is that the reason why I have cone tits?
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wait
i'm done with my homework
I'M GONNA GO PLAY PHANTASY STAR
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>>5761368
Yeah it's fat
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>>5761366
duh, but my face is the thing I need to pass so I can leave and join reality
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>>5761368
You aren't on hrt right? Muscle atrophy can affect the appearance of them
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>>5761333
That's what my doctor told me, You have one month till your body goes back to normal.

>>5761373
Pretty much
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>>5761365
How would they be a female-exclusive, out of curiousity?

I mean, you're growing tits, kinda assuming that included, well, uh, tits.
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>tfw no general for non-passers to avoid all these disgusting normies
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>>5761377
Thought saw
I reckon it's the chest fat that gives them the bigger appearance, kinda emphasizes it, it seems

>>5761379
I dunno if I have much muscle though
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>>5761382
I would agree but you will just tell me to kill myself
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>>5761352
I know everyone ignores me because I'm a hon but here
http://www.livestrong.com/article/539306-what-muscles-do-side-leg-raises-work/
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>>5760883
>going to show him my surprise tonight
w-whats the best way to do it

i dont mind if he wants to kill me
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>>5761380
It's true too, my skin and everything is just back to normal male now.

>tfw hrt is weak and shit and passing isn't even real

>>5761388
You pass though you autistic faggot.
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if you don't pass then that means God wants you to stay male
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>>5761378
Seems like projecting to assume that everyone else does exactly what you do and for the reasons you do.
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>>5761385
You would be surprised how much fat and muscle you have between bones and stuff that makes you look bigger.
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>>5761362
no, i don't really like things on my skin...
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>>5761399
Nice
Hoping I will lose whatever it is I have
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>>5761404
Kuppy
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>>5761382
we had a /npg/ iirc. it's a bad idea though.
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>>5761408
only because all the passers intentionally post there to troll
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>>5761408
>it's a bad idea though
No, passers suck.
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>>5761391
Thanks, sheen!
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>>5761416
Divided up echo chambers suck even more. The world gives trans women enough shit without trans women dividing themselves further and fighting amongst themselves.
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>>5761381
But you don't grow new ligaments though. Maybe in pre-pueberty or females are born with them. Ligaments are stretchy bands of tissue that, in most cases, hold one bone to another.
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>tfw no black stallion to pound my bp
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>>5761427
Who says men don't have them too?

I want to believe, stop destroying my dreams.
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