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Are any LGBT in Europe somewhat worried or concerned about the influx of migrants from an area/religion that isn't exactly known for it's tolerance of gays and transexuals? After all, there will most likely be an increase in attacks against LGBT people in Europe.
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>>5719677
There is no solid ground on which you can make those assumptions other than muh feels

in fact muslims are very tolerant with trans people
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>>5719677
To put things into perspective, if all immigrants currently coming into the EU would permanently settle here, there will be one immigrant for every 5000 EU citizens. now, the vast majority of these people will not give a flying fuck about LGBT issues. Not all of them are muslim either if that's what you're implying. I would be more worried about the large number of EU countries that currently do not allow gay marriage for example. That's your average white christian brethren for you.
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>>5719715
The ones that live in the west and respect the cultures and laws of that country do, yes.
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>>5719677
if it weren't for the "it's the current year, we don't do that anymore I mean come on" mentality our friendly white allies would be throwing us from rooftops too.

And besides that the dangers of this muslim invasion were already known 20 years ago.
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>>5719715
>There is no solid ground on which you can make those assumptions other than muh feels
>Here is an assumption based on muh feels

LGBT are not treated well in the areas that most of these migrants are coming from, why would they suddenly become tolerant when they enter europe.
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>>5719715
OK

http://www.expressen.se/gt/la-dod-orm-vid-likets-hals-jag-ar-ormradd/
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>>5719726
>the vast majority of these people will not give a flying fuck about LGBT issues

Why do you assume that?
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>>5719745
because they wouldn't be the majority anymore
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>>5719756
these are people that have lost everything they own except what they can carry, and they have carried these possessions while traversing this continent, a lot of them have lost several family members if not all of them. do you honestly think that what's on their mind is where the locals put their dicks, rather than trying to start anew and mend their broken lives? your kind of reasoning is severely racist, and thus it's hard to take it seriously.
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>>5719759
You have to be in the majority to commit hate crimes or hold hateful views? You are being ridiculous. Look at those survey results, how do you not find that worrying?
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>>5719766
>severely racist
Are you serious? What is racist about what i have said?
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>>5719774
this whole thread is typical right wing fear mongering
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>>5719766
Do you think that they are never going to settle and try to commit to a life in Europe? Once they do, why would they not care about something that the locals do/ accept that they most likely find morally abhorrent?
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>>5719766
They come from a place where sodomites were killed for sport and that happens to the lucky ones.

They come here because they either want money or a small vacation from the ultraviolence while their women fight for them.

>but /pol/ and christians do exactly the same!!

No, they don't and you'll see what i mean once they'll declare your neighborhood a sharia-zone.
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>>5719771
>You have to be in the majority to commit hate crimes
Yes, otherwise the majority will stop you and punish you.
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>>5719715
there are literally boys and women being raped by packs of feral niggers all over europe

this is not tolerance
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>>5719788
still, the current stream of immigrants make up 1/5000th of all EU citizens. each and everyone one of them will not be gay bashers. so who are you actually afraid of?

>>5719795
you're confusing ISIS with syrian immigrants, i know that it's difficult to educate yourself about the difference, but i'm sure that you can if you try hard!
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>>5719786
Right-wing fear mongering? No it isn't, i'm not right-wing nor do i hate Muslims. You are just so invested in your ideology that you lash out when anyone points out something that you find uncomfortable and label it racist as an easy way to dismiss it.

LOOK AT THE SURVEY RESULTS. This is not an unreasonable fear and it is certainly not racist.
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>>5719799
Punishing after the fact doesn't stop the attacks from happening.
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>>5719804
>quotes tabloid as truth
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>>5719677
>>5719755
>>5719795
>>5719774
>>5719806

This is you.
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>>5719795
>No, they don't and you'll see what i mean once they'll declare your neighborhood a sharia-zone.
But they actually do.
And whether my neighbourhood turns into Sharia or some neonazi right wing Deus vult zone, I'd be dead either way.

But really it's funny how these morally upstanding right wingers come to warn lgbt for the dangers of the muslim hordes, when we've already known for over 20 fucking years.

Old news.
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>>5719806
you're asking me to relate to information in a picture posted on 4chan, you best be joking. those "survey results" means shit and you know it.
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>>5719813
I also said they would stop them from happening but why I guess that wasn't convenient for your non argument.
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>>5719677
Yes I'm concerned about polish immigrants too
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>>5719829
I approve of this post.
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>>5719805
Who am i afraid of? The millions of people who hold hateful views. Millions of people is not a small number and the vast majority (based on pew research statistics and based on common sense) will have regressive views about homosexuality and jews. I find it incredibly worrying and saying that it is 1/5000 doesn't change that and i don't consider that a such a small number that it isn't cause for concern
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>>5719827
How? Is there a scheme to read their fucking minds and anticipate their actions?
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>>5719822
>Survey results mean shit
You're retarded.
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>>5719817
Nope, don't recall going to any neo-nazi rallies.
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>>5719835
Yeah. The same mind reading thing you're doing to assume they are going to start killing people just because.
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>>5719677
>worried
Nope.
Being worried now would be like being worried that someone is going to set your house on fire, oblivious to the fact that it's already an inferno.
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>>5719833
>The millions of people who hold hateful views
yes, they're called your neighbours. look around you, you're more likely to have your shit beaten out of you by your friendly white neighbour if he knew you worship the dick, rather than an immigrant trying to rebuild their lives. if you fail to see the difference here, that's the part that makes you a racist.

>>5719837
i have a survey right here that says that i'm of average intelligence. would you like to dispute that claim with your own indepedent study?
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>>5719821
Just wait for the enrichment when you have to live with them.

I worked in Leicester (40% English) and get death stares and insulted just for walking hand in hand with my bf down the wrong street.

Always by Muslims funnily enough, never by white English.

Thank god we're out of that shithole
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>>5719844
Survey results are not mind-reading and if you increase the number of homophobes you will increase the amount of homophobic hate crimes. This is common sense.
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>>5719846
You don't seem to understand what a survey is. Pew Research survey results are not useless you fucking idiot.
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The issue isn't the immigrants, they could normally be integrated, and many will be. The issue is that most won't be because Islam is not being converted to our use. What folly!

If it were just an alien system of morals that would already be plenty challenging, but Islam is far worse than that. It is an alien system of morals that demands to be considered before, and be instated as, the law of the land. In the game of memetic warfare, the world as a whole seems to be giving Islam a pass. It's a weapon like any other. We either need to unmake it and all its bearers, or we need to make it harmless to us.
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>>5719715
shiite muslims are. Sunni are just horrible.
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>>5719849
>implying
I'd rather not have to deal with any group with a shady history when it comes to gays.
Which includes quite a few of them.
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>>5719858
you're talking as if the numbers of refugees would make it so they would become the majority of Europe's population, while they would be a really small proportion of it. Any change they could make in any survey would be really low to non existent.
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>>5719846
>Some Christians are homophobes so why should anyone care about bringing in millions of homophobes
Really sound reasoning there. And you can scream racist as many times as you want, it doesn't make it true.
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>>5719881
>millions of homophobes
[Citation needed]

or did you just make that number up because it sounds scary?
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>>5719879
You don't need to be in a majority to cause trouble. Bringing millions of people into your country who hold homophobic/ misogynistic views will have a negative effect on those countries.
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These refugees should fuck off anyway.
Majority of them is uneducated or outright illiterate, majority holds backward views incompatible with western values, majority is here just for economic benefits, majority does not even belong here since they're technically not even refugees.
But sure try to tell that to a bleeding heart liberal.
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>>5719885
Millions of immigrants who are mostly muslim from North Africa and the Middle-east + Pew research indicating that almost all Muslims in those areas are homophobic = millions of homophobes. Idiot.
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Apparently being against a disgusting homophobic sexist religion is racist, as opposed to y'know, just being against the religion, and not their race

lmao tumblrfag fuck off
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>>5719869
do you know how statistics can be used to support a certain view even if the research doesn't support it? that's what happens when you select a few numbers out of a survey you've never even read just to prove your point. How come only three countries on that list are european countries? What are the number for poland, belarus etc? Also, "morally wrong" does not equal "must beat in head with rock"
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>>5719900
the majority of EU immigrants right now are from Syria, why is that not on your survey? are you saying that one middle eastern country equals all of them? that almost sounds...racist :)
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>>5719904
"Christianity is homophobic"
> True. They're so brave.
"Islam is homophobic"
> Fucking racist

Progressives only dislike homophobia and misogyny when a white guy/Christian holds those views. Apparently if Muslims are homophobic and misogynistic then it's totally fine. It's disgusting.
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>>5719914
Do you really think that the numbers would be mysteriously different in Syria as opposed to every other country in the middle-east?

>Majority are from Syria
Prove it
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>>5719946
>Prove it
all you have to do is google, darling: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34131911 (third graphic)
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>>5719907
Pew Research is the gold standard of research. They are reputable, I have read the survey and it is worrying.

And if someone thinks homosexuality is morally wrong, they are more likely to commit a hate crime, don't you think?
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>>5719963
>BBC
I find that ironic, seemingly how they are forgetting to include "refugees" from Africa, especially N Africa.

Please hang yourself or educate yourself.
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>>5719974
okay sir, if you can find one other source that is as credible as the BBC to prove that the majority of the current immigrants are *not* from Syria, then i will agree with you, otherwise you can just go and fuck yourself. do we have a deal?
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>>5719963
Maybe you should try learning arithmetic again. Being the top source of migrants does not mean the majority you stupid fuck. That graphic proves that the majority are not Syrian.
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>>5719963
It was very generous of you to prove my point for me, thank you. The majority are not Syrian.
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>>5719919
Because i'm sure we are supportive and non-critcizing of this disgusting 'religion' nothing bad will happen.. right?

I don't usually use terrible newspapers for evidence, but the town this happened in is very close to where I live, so I do take it quite personally
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>>5719984
damn so many spelling errors with this, sorry, hahah
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>>5719979
This is from the UN Human Rights Council, created in 2016 from data from 2015.

Please get bent and start looking big picture and not just what the media tells you.
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>>5719979
The graphic that you just cited for a start. Holy shit.
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>>5719979
Are you still here? Now that you have established that the majority are not Syrian, can you admit that you were wrong? If you were wrong about something so basic, don't you think that you might be wrong about your other points.
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>>5720008
No? Still not here? Are you too embarrassed to respond and quit or are you desperately searching for a source to prove your original point (you won't find one)?
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>>5720017
I understand that you are embarrassed (which you should be because ... holy shit) but you really should admit that you were wrong
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>>5719715
So are you willingly retarded or just actually retarded?
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>>5721073
They are really that retarded. You just can't fake autism at that level.
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>>5719766
>a lot of them have lost several family members

more like left them behind and not fight for their country

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8n-eo5fDYU
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holy shit, lgbt people are actually defending the islamic invasion? i thought it was just a meme, never thought anyone could actually be this dumb

pro-tip, shariah law exists on the planet and they stone gays, this isn't a conspiracy and it isn't right wing propaganda, they are actually pretty proud of such a fact as it is part of their religion

you people really are useful idiots, it's hilarious
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>>5721601
Christians used to kill homosexuals too. Do they still do it?

I forgot nothing ever changes.
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>>5721605
The stopped having children and let women have rights and not have to cover themselves 24/7
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>rapefugees are a meme
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daily reminder there is a genocide of whites going on and its happening in more ways then one

>promoting mass immigration to turn whites into minorities
>promoting race mixing to ensure less white births
>promoting homosexuality to ensure less white births
>politicians and media turning a blind eye to white women being gang raped resulting in thousands of non-white births
http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/5386/british-girls-raped-oxford

>British Girls Raped by Muslim Gangs on "Industrial Scale"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotherham_child_sexual_exploitation_scandal

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peterborough_sex_abuse_case

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derby_sex_gang

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rochdale_sex_trafficking_gang

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxford_sex_gang

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bristol_sex_gang

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telford_sex_gang

and another 2015

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3312376/Schoolgirl-aged-13-14-repeatedly-raped-sexually-abused-passed-round-15-Asian-males.html

http://www.expressandstar.com/news/crime/2015/05/02/sex-abuse-gangs-in-black-country-significant-similarities-to-rotherham-scandal-say-police/
more 2015, 12/13 year olds

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/05/19/child-raped-by-60-men-in-asian-grooming-gang-only-11-ringleaders-in-court/
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/vulnerable-schoolgirl-raped-least-60-5717785

Girls lured into sex trade for the price of a McDonald's: Council faces legal action for not stopping Asian gang
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3225226/Six-members-Asian-child-sex-abuse-gang-jailed-total-82-years-grooming-white-girls-sex-exchange-milkshake-McDonald-s.html

now germany is being culturally enriched

http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/6527/migrants-rape-germany

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3434708/Iraqi-migrant-raped-10-year-old-boy-swimming-pool-Vienna-told-police-sexual-emergency-hadn-t-sex-months.html#comments
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>>5721620
>promoting homosexuality to ensure less white births

Countries are literally making it easier for gays to adopt and even have biological children via surrogates, etc.
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>>5721620
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2013/05/biden-praises-jews-goes-too-far.html


“The embrace of immigration” is part of that, as is the involvement of Jews in social justice movements.

“You can’t talk about the civil rights movement in this country without talking about Jewish freedom riders and Jack Greenberg,” he said, telling a story about seeing a group of Jewish activists at a segregated movie theater in Delaware. “You can’t talk about the women’s movement without talking about Betty Friedan” …

“I believe what affects the movements in America, what affects our attitudes in America are as much the culture and the arts as anything else,” he said. That’s why he spoke out on gay marriage “apparently a little ahead of time.”

“It wasn’t anything we legislatively did. It was ‘Will and Grace,’ it was the social media. Literally. That’s what changed peoples’ attitudes. That’s why I was so certain that the vast majority of people would embrace and rapidly embrace” gay marriage, Biden said.

“Think behind of all that, I bet you 85 percent of those changes, whether it’s in Hollywood or social media are a consequence of Jewish leaders in the industry. The influence is immense, the influence is immense. And, I might add, it is all to the good.”
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>>5721623
>implying homos want kids
>implying they can afford surrogates
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>>5721637
White gay engineer here.
>Want kids.
>Can afford.
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>>5721620
holy shit this is some next level /pol/anoia
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>>5721637
What is this image even saying?
Why do /pol/acks think collages are the greatest form of communication?!
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>>5721697
>white
>gay
>engineer

you're literally a tumblrina worst nightmare. Nice.
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>>5719755
You don't want us to start linking articles about poor white people doing gay bashing. It'll fill up the entire thread. Cherrypicking isn't going to get you anywhere reasonable.
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>>5719715
>in fact muslims are very tolerant with trans people
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>>5719677
I thought we were past this.

Religion doesn't like us. We already have one group demonizing and attacking our existence, we don't need a second one at our doorstep.

>tfw Islam and Christians hate each other
>find common ground in their hatred of homosexuality and lgbt as a whole
>band together to destroy our rights

This is just one horror scenario.
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>>5721817
if you let gay people exist black people will take our women?
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>>5722330
>religious people
>reasonable
Also how many times things like that or like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxyVD0-6Z1E need to happen until it's no longer cherry picking?
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>>5722330

So what you're saying is that even in a western world where Christianity has mostly been de-fanged, they're still bad?

So why the fuck do you want to import a religion that hates us even more and hasn't been de-fanged?
If the low level we have now is bad why the fuck are you okay with importing worse? Just because there aren't very many?
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>>5719677
Not really, senpai. I'm Slavic, so it's not like they want to go to my country. And even if they were forced to go there by the EU - and this is entirely possible - we will just gang up on them with my friends and kick the shit out of them 'cause that's how we roll. And the police? The police is on our side, they won't even attempt to catch us. We're way too racist to let them live among us comfortably and every little incident they cause - even beating of some random tranny locals would hurt without hesitation, too - will be used as an excuse to lynch them.
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I'm worried about them in general, not just for myself. I live in Britain and everyone here saying "there's 1 for every 5000" doesn't get the point. They don't intergrate, they bunch into areas so they are the majority. Just look at Birmingham or London. You don't catch immigrants moving to Cumbria and shooting pheasents with flat caps on, they much prefer beating their wives, racing their cars and accidentally running people over all time, and being violent towards people they don't like.
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>>5719677
Gotta say /lgbt/, i'm disappointed. This is my first time using this board and based on this thread it looks like this board is infested with hypocritical Tumblrinas who cried racist the second i showed some worrying survey results and asked some reasonable questions.
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>>5723524
literally no one cares.

Go back to /pol/ and live your delusions there.
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>>5723555

>the /pol/ boogeyman

you really think they come to your faggoty board?
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>>5723563
>you really think they come to your faggoty board?

There is a reason why polgbt exists.
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>>5723587

It's all in your head, we don't care about your homo cockslut shit
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>>5719799
fear of punishment does not make you tolerant.
it just makes you a closeted bigot.
bury your head in the sand all you like, birds of a feather flock together and before you know it, they've ghettoised into majority muslim areas where for an openly gay or unpassing trans person to walk through, would be putting their lives at risk.
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>>5723593
>we
so you do come here.
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>>5723605

J-just to make fun of you homos. That's all.
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>>5723555
See, this is the sort of shit i'm talking about.
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>>5723605
That's a different anon, idiot
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>>5724079
So?
It's still a /polack/ browsing /lgbt/
You really are stupid, aren't you?
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>>5719715
>Muslims are tolerant
Maybe most but they don't speak out against the minority that commit horrible crimes
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>>5719677
As another anon said, it's 1 migrant in 5000 already established people, some of them can be very homophobic/transphobic.

I firmly believe that if they integrate well, they will become gradually more tolerant. If they don't, then we will have to "fight" them the same way we deal with old annoying Christians fundamentalists, by ignoring them and ridiculing them
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>>5719766
>severely racist
MUSLIM IS NOT A RACE

>>5719817
>having anything but an idealized opinion of Muslim immigrants = neo nazi

Plus I couldn't be a nazi even if I wanted too, i'm not a whitey :^)
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>>5724126
I don't think they need to constantly apologise for everything a small minority does

I don't want to tell everyone that being gay is not like pic related, for example (though I have nothing against this way of being gay, I just find it gross and attention-whoring)

>>5723628
>urge to post crappy /polgbt/ fanart rising
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You guys aren't getting that many people.
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>>5719677
>the influx of migrants from an area/religion
Thanks to the only useful decision the hungarian government made in quite a while, nope.
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>>5724180
>Speaking against homophobia and transphobia in their communities

How did that come off as apologizing? I don't want apologies just for them to try to discourage intolerant behavior among their families and friends
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I'm actually quite worried that due to the increased influence of Muslim beliefs in Europe. I saw someone the other day claiming that arranged marriages and pedophilia aren't bad things and people were agreeing with them. I mean nothing they said got to muder levels but it's still messed up to me.
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>>5724202
I think they simply don't have the courage to speak and get into fights with their loved ones. I don't think I can blame them.

I have tried to get my friends to stop saying faggot every other word, but that didn't serve any purposes, I would imagine they feel the same way - but with much greater risks.
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>>5721554
So a father who is the only sustent of his family is a coward for not wanting to die for a war that he probably doesn't care?

Stop romanticism the war, there is no such thing as honor and glory in fighting a lost war
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>>5721697
Engineer master race
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>>5724171
You don't have to be white to be part of some ultranationalist group
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>>5724562
ISIS seems to beleive in that. Or is it just a small group of muslims that kill in the name of god?
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