After having something with a trans girl the past month, my thoughts so far:
-The female brain in male body shit is a total lie. Theyre easier to talk to, more understanding, less confusing, easier to read, more caring, sweeter etc than all real women ive ever met.
-Theyre not just women, theyre more like women on XTC. Im convinced theyre the gayest people alive on this planet. My gf wants to cook and clean for me, suck my dick whenever I want. Women were like this 60 years ago maybe.
-Theyre easier? Maybe its because they have less potential guys to begin with because most guys would be "not gay at all bruhhh", but I joke and troll around and call her a nigger and faggot every 2 seconds and she told me she has feelings for me yesterday. (Dont worry you fags, im sweet to her too). No actual girl ever would.
Does anybody recognize these things?
>>5708097
>easier to talk to, more understanding, less confusing, easier to read, more caring, sweeter
that's because cis women are the most desired creatures on the planet and trans people are the least, so they have to be people pleasers if they want to have social lives
Cis women take their femininity for granted. Most have thrown theirs out the window and have become aggressive pseudo-males. At best you'll find a woman who embraces her femininity enough to let you open doors for her without calling you a rapist, but you aren't gonna find one resembling a 50s housewife.
Meanwhile, tgirls not only embrace femininity completely but they study it and try their best to emulate it. Even the SJW trannies really want nothing more than to be a subservient housewife. I'm a tranny girl and this is how I treat my boyfriend...I make him meals and do his dishes, do whatever he likes in bed, respect him etc. Same with all my tgirlfriends and their bfs. This comes from overcompensation. Us tgirls want to feel as 'real' of girls as possible. This often leads to taking things a bit too far.
>>5708097
ITT
>bait.jpg
>>5708208
>Meanwhile, tgirls not only embrace femininity completely but they study it and try their best to emulate it. Even the SJW trannies really want nothing more than to be a subservient housewife.
i'm trans and i want more than to be a housewife
i want to be financially independent and individually happy
>I'm a tranny girl and this is how I treat my boyfriend...I make him meals and do his dishes, do whatever he likes in bed, respect him etc. Same with all my tgirlfriends and their bfs.
none of that precludes enjoying when i make food for the guy i like and he says it's delicious
>This comes from overcompensation. Us tgirls want to feel as 'real' of girls as possible. This often leads to taking things a bit too far.
tomboys are no less girls than airheaded ultrafems
>>5708097
Isn't this like a basic contradiction of the transcomunity/feminist movement?
They want to detroy stereotypical gender roles, but trans people try the hardest to imitate those roles to be recognized as the other gender.
By transitioning they are actually reproducing stereotypical hetero normative behavior, that harms trans people who haven't had surgery yet..
>>5708251
>transcomunity/feminist movement?
If you think they have the same goals you have no idea what either represents.
>They want to detroy stereotypical gender roles
Most transpeople do not. That's why they
>try the hardest to imitate those roles to be recognized as the other gender.
>that harms trans people who haven't had surgery yet..
You do realize that transpeople are the most selfish group of people out there, right?
t. MtF
>>5708097
there is no female or mail brain
you have very little experience with both trans and genetic women
sounds like you got a really sweet one, congrats, enjoy your relationship
Why are chasers so quick to talk down about the women they're so attracted to and go on about how they're not 'real women'? Legit question. Wouldn't most MtFs be extremely turned off at the fact that their partner doesn't even see them as a woman?
>>5708387
yes
>>5708387
But look at how nice he's being to her. OP, do you gender her female when talking to/about her?
>>5708383
>there is no female or mail brain
This is false. Prenatal exposure to higher levels of testosterone change the fetus's default female brain to that of a male brain.
Men and women are biologically different, and it has more to do than just muscles and fat. They do in fact think and behave differently, even if just slightyly.
The notion that socialization accounts for all male and female differences is fubar. Even monkies, who have zero gender socialization, will gravitate to the gendered toys that correspond to their sex.
Trans women are born with male brains, and the scans that show similarities to cis women are likely accounted for by HRT (there are no brain scans of a pre-HRT brains that show a trans women's brains to mimic cis women's brains).
The end results are that trans women's brains are a feminized male brain. It makes complete sense that trans women would get along well with men and less of a hassle in many regards.
>>5708097
Insightul, and inciteful.
Your "femininity" is nothing more than a fetish. I'll bet you get off on being a used, cumrag and a sissy don't you? My femininity is something I was born with,. No amount of learned behavior will ever erase your natural male tendencies, they are ingrained so deeply into you. Also, you're spitting out the grass is greener argument. Some women would say that men take their masculinity for granted... What even is femininity to you? Letting men walk all over you? Never speaking up for yourself? Being a housewife? Wearing slutty clothing?
>>5708423
i want to live my life as a productive member of society
your fearmongering doesn't change anything and it doesn't help anyone
>>5708401
So? If he doesn't even see her as a girl it's disingenuous. At best, he's humoring her so she won't make a fuss about it. In my experience, a lot of chasers will do this in order to have a tighter grip on the girl in question.
>>5708208
Really... :-|
It's not just that you know what a man wants so you can cater to his simple ass? ( yeah know the whole only gay men actually know what it is to love a MAN theory)
>>5708419
>monkies [sic]...have zero gender socialization
[citation needed]
>>5708419
no it doesnt change BRAIN
there is a tiny bit responsible for sexuality and self-gender, and they are not even exactly same for mtfs and genetic women picrelated
there is like ~5% exclusively female and male parts of the brain, the rest is overlapping in various combinations http://www.sciencealert.com/study-reveals-there-s-no-such-thing-as-male-or-female-brains
the hormones affect everything hugely
even the experiments with toddlers and toys correlated higher test with interest in technical toys while higher estrogen with interest in faces and dolls
>>5708387
Im not a chaser. We just started talking and both enjoyed it, and it grew out like this. I didnt mean to have this at first.
>>5708401
Yea, I do, shes my qt pie. Its a little akward with friends though, its like im delusional and trying to lie to them (they know about it), so I just use a nickname. I like to call her a faggot and make jokes about it, and we both laugh, so I guess its okay.
>>5708423
Something about how submissive and adorable she is, is just better than a real woman. Maybe some people like to be submissive to men? Not everybody is a dumb feminazi.
>>5708442
Dafuq are you on. I see her as a girl, I even totally forget at times, but I like to make jokes about it.
>>5708453
Maybe thats it desu. They seem to understand us more and act on it.
>>5708559
> Its a little akward with friends though, its like im delusional and trying to lie to them (they know about it), so I just use a nickname. I like to call her a faggot and make jokes about it, and we both laugh, so I guess its okay.
you sound like a piece of shit tbhonest
>>5708619
You sound like a faggot tbhonest
>>5708619
>other people seem to get humor and arent an ass
>lets be an ass
>>5708559
>Yea, I do, shes my qt pie. Its a little akward with friends though, its like im delusional and trying to lie to them (they know about it), so I just use a nickname. I like to call her a faggot and make jokes about it, and we both laugh, so I guess its okay.
This is half cute and half reasonable. I don't get why people are upset with you. Very happy for that girl OP, be nice to her.
>>5708559
On the making jokes part I have friends that sometimes make jokes about me being trans, I laugh as well but I am kjnda hurt. But in to beta and nice to say anything.
Maybe you should check if she really is comfortable with it? Maybe you need to be more mature about it, often with delicate situations humor is used to try and make things less awkward.
Idk do whatever.
>>5708652
She told me she doesnt really know if Im okay with her being trans, and I told her that it makes her who she is and I really like her for who she is and that im completely fine with it.
Im more nice to her lately because she is always so sweet to me. I was a bit scared for that because guys are seen as neckbeard losers whenever we try to be nice, but Im nicer now.
>>5708669
I see and think of her as a girl, but I know she isnt really truly, but I guess shes better that way.
>>5708669
just because he doesn't think of her as a normal girl doesn't mean he doesn't see her as a girl at all
i mean it's just true to the point where i feel like it should go without saying that being a trans woman is not the same thing as being a cis woman
>>5708423
is this a projection of the fact that you personally only embrace your femininity as a sexual kink, and otherwise have a more androgynous personality?
believe it or not other people can be so different from you that you'll never be able to understand them better than they understand themselves, as much as you might have an impulse to form a strong opinion about them.
but who knows maybe i'm the one projecting and you're actually an expert on gender expression and sexuality, and i should be thanking you for anonymously gracing us with your totally non-reductive two cents
>>5708423
What is being feminine to you cunt? Tell us about your amazing pure female self that for some reason feels threatened by this thread. Women are such jealous creatures
>>5708423
Your various insults aside, I can see what you are trying to say. Maybe trans women aren't just like cis women, maybe they need to accentuate their feminine aspects.
But saying that it is a mere fetish seems a bit inaccurate. These are people who are just trying to feel comfortable with themselves. They are born with the disturbing knowledge that the sex they were born with isn't the one they were meant to have.
Many of these trans women spent a large part of their lives having to be masculine, in fear of cultural disdain. They had to repress their feelings and live what is essentially a lie.
Why would they not, then, go a bit far when they are allowed to be themselves? Having to hold so much back for so long, how could they not express themselves to the fullest when finally given the chance?
I can see why you would be threatened by this. The things OP stated make his trans girlfriend seem like a dream come true to any man, and the heightened competition would cause many to resort to their more base instincts and attack the opposition.
But please, don't be a hypocrite when you resort to these instincts by insulting the instincts of others. It really belittles your argument.
>>5709127
I like this post and would upvote if I could.
>>5708865
>Women are such jealous creatures
lmao you don't even refer to yourself as a woman
>>5710271
I didn't refer to myself as anything...
>>5708097
>My gf wants to cook and clean for me, suck my dick whenever I want.
That's because they think that's how most women behave. They have a fetishized view of femininity because real femininity doesn't come naturally to them
>>5708480
The BSTc is way to small to be resolved on any non invasive machine like a MRI or CAT scanner. So, at the macro scale there are no significant observable differences. However the study that made the images you provided in your pic did show a very significant micro level difference. Furthermore I expect when we start mapping out the neurons in brains we will find many more differences.
When you get down to it something must tell a cow how to select a bull, and stand for it so it can mount it. Similar for a bull, something must tell it how to sniff out which cows are in heat, and also tell it how to mount and fuck them. Same thing goes for humans. Something tells us which roles to play in the mating game, and what we are to do when we fuck. We instinctively know what to do. We don't need to see porn, or somebody else doing it. I, as a MtF got the programming for a female, not male. I didn't know how to thrust, but I did know to lay on my back and spread 'em. My first gf had to teachme how to fuck, and it felt very wrong.
>>5710339
actually i know that the average woman doesn't do those things, but i still want to do them anyway, because i'm not trying to be a statistical average of all women, i'm trying to be the best version of myself that i can possibly be. that means doing things that make other people happy in the ways that i know how. i would be a nobel prize winning physicist or a great composer or even a typical programmer if i thought i could do any of those things, but i can't, so among other things like volunteering with animals and generally trying to not hurt others' feelings, i also do my best to satisfy men, and yes, i cook food for people because it's a skill i've developed since i was little, and i clean because it's something i take pride in and since i don't have a real job i want to be able to help out those who do
i can't speak for all trans women, but i really don't think what you described sounds like a fetish so much as a normal lifestyle for millions of people. it can certainly be a kink as well, but just because you find it kinky doesn't mean everyone else who participates in it is doing it for that reason
>>5708229
>Not aspiring to be a housewife
Ishygddt
>>5708097
>more understanding, less confusing, easier to read, more caring, sweeter etc
I'm an aloof asshole, does that make me trutrans?
>>5711551
I'm with Anon. While I would certainly afford a few years to (principally) child rearing, I've got ambitions that fit very poorly with being a housewife for any extended period. I'm sure many other trans women are the same.
Yeah, taking care of the people you love is intensely rewarding. But our stories stretch farther than that.
>>5708760
that's wrong though. transwomen are real women, plain and simple; they are no less women than cis women
>>5711642
i mean woman is just a word so who cares i guess. you can define it however you want. just know that some people will choose to define it as someone born with xx chromosomes. personally i don't care if that's how they want to define it. people can call me whatever they want as long as they see me for who i really am, which is something that no single word could ever communicate anyway
>>5711663
This is true. An good for you anon.
>>5708097
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>>5711623
Ill worry about stretching my story when Im old.
>>5709127
You can see something similar to this in Japanese culture, which is why weeaboo stuff is so fucking weird. You're supposed to be all harmonious and shit and not act out or do anything that stands out. Then in the small outlets they're allowed to act out, it's over the top as fuck.
Same principle.
>>5711663
That was beautiful, anon.
>>5708387
>the actions of some are the actions of all
because it's 4chan an people here are followers their superiors told them they are gay or that trans women are men with tits
I for one don't listen to this rubbish
They are presenting the male idea of a "woman". Of course it's going to look like something out of the 50's.
