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Old Thread: >>5701195
xth for slowly worsening self hatred
>>5702588
>tfw your instructor asked where you were going away to and went "oh you're not just going away, you're going somewhere nice"
>>5702597
>tfw you are finally starting to realise that you don't look like a guy anymore and you can see the girl in the mirror everyone else sees you as.
Actually cried tears of joy this morning
>>5702600
just flip your thoughts mammal,
theres no point in anything, go for what you want you CAN do it
how do i transition into bilinda butcher?
>>5702605
forecast is starting to look very very wet
>>5702597
>>5702608
woof.
>>5702611
Sadly hrt doesn't come with the guitar lessons, but the world has never enough shoegaze bands.
>>5702600
>>5702608
>>5702613
>>5702617
disinfo, my endocrinologist plays guitar.
>>5702609
I think that will happen to me the day what I see in the mirror is the woman I see myself as, not the one everyone else does...
I'm afraid I'll need plastic surgery for that, though. And I don't mean FFS.
>>5702612
Lewd
>>5702610
its not that anon, its just that i feel that i'm a traitor to pretty much everyone i know and its making me go back into my shell ;_;
>>5702618
>>5702633
Please don't let that happen Remy. You're not a traitor to anyone, and you don't have to compromise on your own happiness because of what the rest of the world may think of you.
>tfw no puppy to step on for 18 billion dollars.
>tfw no knot bf
17 38
>>5702611
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpoOjoiYcWY
>>5702646
iktf.
>>5702611
please don't post pictures of my waifu
>>5702605
>ffs
thats exactly the approach I am going for ;-;
just needto get the money I am lacking atm
i am never drinking again
my head hurts so fucking bad, I used to never get hang overs before hrt
tfw your tits are hurting massively, and it's been almost a year since they last felt like this.
My first day of work was wonderful. My coworkers are the sweetest. The owners are awesome. People were so kind.
I had so much happy anxiety I walked to the fancy grocery store and bought a bottle of Chardonnay and sad on the patio and drank the whole thing. Then walked home and passed out.
The people who work in the evenings are kids. The girl is in high school, and the guy is in his first year of college.
Just doll face angels. The owner didn't care about my ID. He looked at it, as I was nervously telling him I will get it changed. Meh whatever Olivia. That was it.
I have a real life. yay a totally real life.
You can't be a hon with a customer facing job right? Even though when I was walking home I noticed a person starring.
I will continue to improve.
my internet connection is so devoted to playing weeb mmos that pandora keeps skipping songs
>>5702664
Are you on spiro? That doesn't mix well with alcohol. I learned that the hard way. Felt like i was dying and I leaked blood from my dick for days...
>>5702664
OMG I am dying this morning just from a bottle of wine.
>>5702668
yay!
i believe in you!
>>5702661
I'm unlikely to have any money for ffs in the near future. I've also been told that a number of ffs surgeons probably wouldn't want to operate on me ;_;
I'm really really sick of seeing a boy in the mirror though. It doesn't matter what other people see, every time I need to use a mirror for an extended period is condensed dysphoria.
No one's home
Time for butt stuff
>>5702672
>Felt like i was dying
>leaked blood from my dick for days
Holy shit. My gf (also tranny) and I never get shit like this. While we can't take as much alcohol as we used to, and feel slightly hungover the next day every time, we still don't feel like dying or having blood leak from dicks and such horrid things.
We also rarely drink, so maybe that has something to do with it. A bottle of vodka split between us will make us both feel like death the next morning of course.
>>5702352
Because you're an idiot.
I'm saying that most trans people would not transition if they couldn't be attractive
>>5702677
what a valuable use of privacy time.
>>5702676
The main problem with ffs is... it doesn't wholly fix the insecurity. So if you get into it without a clear idea of what you want besides making the boy disappear, it's not a great start.
>>5702675
Thank you. It feels good to be able to do normal things.
This is the best board for trans on the whole interwebs.
>>5702682
I wouldn't believe a fucking word that idiot says.
>>5702678
>I had two 4Loko's last night
Jesus Christ, no wonder you don't feel good.
That's almost like drinking two bottles of wine, except instead of wine it's the shittiest of shit tier hobo-drinks essentially. Why not get something a little less turbo?
>>5702672
I've never had a problem with hrt and alcohol other than lowered tolerance. That doesn't really sound normal...
>>5702644
i know what you mean but because my way of dealing with emotional stuff is to bottle it up and put on a brave face, you get to a point where the bottle is full and just break down. thats what it happening right now and it nearly made me quit my job yesterday
>>5702686
I think so too
>>5702676
>I've also been told that a number of ffs surgeons probably wouldn't want to operate on me ;_;
thats incredibly unlikely. I mean, suporns assistant told me the same thing, but they will do anything as long as you have money, since they dont give a shit.
the rest is exactly what I feel ;-;
>>5702678
>two 4Loko's.
What are you mental that stuff is poison. They sure are strong. No wonder you are sick.
Ladies drink crisp white wine with cute or inspirational saying on it.
>>5702676
Why would they refuse to operate?
I used to feel like that about mirrors. Now I see a woman but she doesn't look like my self image. So, out of the frying pan and into the fire, i've traded gender dysphoria for BDD...
>>5702701
Kayla is someone who should kill themselves along with a few others here
>>5702693
I just wanted to get fucked up because my day was so shit yesterday. If things don't turn around I have no other choice but to kill myself.
>>5702701
chardonay makes me want to puke, I like Zinfandel but I was out
>>5702682
Well, got really drunk on champagne that night. I think I drank two bottles out of the two crates I opened for the party.
>>5702650
Can we force the government to make sure we all have woof bfs to tie the knot with?
>>5702704
who else? is it me? please pick me.
Hello /mtfg/ I can no longer come here anymore so this will be my final post, I met alot of pretty cool people here and transitioning gave me a taste of what my life could really be I travelled further than I ever imagined possible and was part of things I never felt important enough to be in so thank you all for these memories and I will miss you all... Im just tired and I need to rest
>Losing interest in women
>Starting to like guys a lot more than i used to
>dreams of having sex with women replaced by being a cumslut for guys
hormones pls stahp...
>>5702705
I understand shitty days. Don't really think of killing yourself. You are cute and awesome. I would cry for days if you hurt yourself. I love you and think you are just swell.
>>5702713
Rest implies coming back and actually being rested at some point. Things heal, even if sometimes the scars pull a little still.
>>5702712
Kayla, sheen, angie, sonic, potc, holic, cfh, olivia and Korra should kill themselves
>>5702704
Me desu
>>5702720
What about you go first
>>5702716
yea but everyone has their own shit to deal with in life, they dont need my problems tacked on to theirs
>>5702713
Anon, I hope you are ok and not thinking about hurting yourself. People are there for you if you need someone to talk to.
>>5702724
I'm not a hon
>>5702726
People who care about you will understand. It's normal to have problems in your life. People make the burdens easier to carry when you share them.
>>5702711
>tie the knot
i want to buy you a pizza or something.
>>5702715
h u g b o x b o y s
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>>5702720
list needs revisions and additions but otherwise it's pretty solid. can i be an honorary anon for suicide?
>>5702735
Make your list?
>>5702716
Well, given how you look, you might well be right. I think the only FFS surgeons who would operate on me are Asian ones, and their work is definitely not in the direction I want my face to go.
So I'll probably just go to a plastic surgeon who doesn't think in FFS terms. Most of the work I want done is on my lower face so it shouldn't be an issue.
>>5702720
Sorry, you're late. I'm not in the mood for death anymore.
>>5702729
Im not hurting myself, I'm just going somewhere I never been before my decision has been made over a long period of time and I made it past my waiting period and I feel the same.
>>5702720
olivia is not crazy like the rest
Being sick is the worst, flu symptoms, fever, lost my voice so all I can do is a strangled squeak, exhausted, fever dreams about being left behind on a coach trip while looking for a public restroom and suddenly my voice is unpassing and I'm lost and alone.
Dysphoria offset by effects of sixth laser session starting to be seen. Hit five months mones this week. Feel gross and sad.
Plus fucking terrified, I don't think I can self med from inhouse anymore, an order I made has gone missing and they're saying if it returns to them with unpaid customs charges on it, they won't deal with me anymore. I have an appointment with my Gp next week on hopefully getting a script and I'm terrified he'll be unhelpful. I /need/ it to go well, my estrogen runs out in April. The fear and pressure is getting to me and I need HRT or else I'll just die. Life is awful, I've spent all day crying, none of my friends ever want to see me these days. I'm pretty sure I'm depressed again. Life sucks.
>>5702733
You sound like one.
>>5702736
i'm honestly not a fan of lists/polls so i won't add more cancer of that flavor, sorry.
>>5702748
aww that is sweet. Thank you.
>>5702737
Any face surgeon in the world would have to do the full list of procedures on you and you would still look like a man.
Enough of this delusion you cunt
>>5702750
Tell the GP you've been self-medding and that you want to have a followup of some sort. Make sure he understands that not giving you the bloodwork or the script will not make you stop.
>>5702758
Well, you're the delusional cunt here if you really think you can convince me I look like a man...
>>5702737
fuck off, people ignore you because you're delusional and disgusting with your lame attention whoring
>>5702773
I hope a Muslim beats you to death
>>5702758
I agree CFH is either a troll or a deeply deeply sad man who has convinced himself that he is a passable woman. Easily the worst person on lgbt
>>5702726
That's what friends are for right? The people around you will understand if you share your feelings. Everyone has their struggles which is why they generally want to help others with theirs.
>>5702713
I hope by rest you don't mean what I think you mean. Please don't do it anon, you can still go further, even if it doesn't feel like it right now.
>>5702737
I'm still of the opinion I have things that I need to have fixed. I'm not sure where the delusion ends and where the reality begins though. Maybe you're making the right approach though, maybe it's not an ffs thing, maybe it's a bdd thing and I need to look at normal plastic surgery.
>>5702775
Your jealous ranting is so sweet...
>>5702784
Your 6 o clock shadow is so sour
>>5702784
>>5702784
You're a qt
>>5702784
THAT is the pic you chose to show people you look like a girl?
Wow, delusional munt, its like a cunt but youre a man
>>5702784
Don't listen to them, hon. You look good.
>>5702784
Eyebrows, laser
>>5702788
Don't hugbox it
It's obviously selfie time.
>>5702794
I bet your mom is hot
>>5702798
not bad, at least you don't look like a 60 year old crossdresser (CFH), just a 30 year old one
>>5702798
>>5702784
>>5702798
I seriously hope I look as good as you at your age.
>>5702788
I know. And the simple fact that I'm fully aware of it makes some anons incredibly salty... They're amusing.
>>5702797
Being nice isn't hugboxing. She is cute. She didn't ask for advice. I think she is doing great.
>>5702763
I told him back in September. I was meant to have him check my liver function every few months but I've been busy with name changes, full time, working two jobs, surgery and recovery etc. He can't check hormone levels so I'm gonna ask for him to either contact a local endo or refer me to one, and start prescribing me stuff because I need it done at this point. I've been on a waiting list for a clinic for the same time I've been self medding and I've heard nothing so far. It feels like everything is against me and all the NHS policy documents to say he really should do this won't help.
>>5702805
hahahahahahahahahahahahaha
>>5702802
Ah yes, the black transgirl, after 6 years on HRT and full facial reconstruction.
>>5702805
>I know
>>5702798
Did you ever post on passgen?
I'm kinda impressed.
Shit bruh i took a while
clyp.it/t1uo5tz5
I had an internet problem a while back and got bored and looked through the stuff Ive saved on my hard drive
does anyone remember pic related?
did we ever find out if this was a hoax or if this really exists/existed?
since barely anyone from here actually offed themselves, does that mean they now bet on who fucks whom and who gets which surgery?
>>5702816
Why would cfh be laughing at his own delusion you fucking idiot?
>>5702822
thanks bruh
>>5702818
>an old lady old transitioner
Wait... you mean a transitioner who got old, right? When did you start?
>>5702817
Not really. I started posting in threads that hate on hons cause I thought they were talking about me. I might have posted one time in a passing thread.
I think I am doing great for 41 and just starting month 9 of hrt.
>>5702818
>Where are the other almost normal old transitioners? I can't be the only one
People your age who are mentally stable and have successful lives don't normally need to post selfies on the internet with people 20 years their junior for validation.
>>5702800
kek
>>5702720
>tfw never on the kys lists
>>5702818
I started at 40. I have just started month 9 hrt
>>5702818
I know a few. They also tend not to fit in well with the weirder older transitioners so it's probably a good thing.
>>5702823
I figure if it exists they're still hoping someone does it. There's a few suicidal girls anyway.
I wouldn't be surprised if some idiot really believed the lifetime suicide attempt = suicide rate unironically enough to do this, but maybe not as a group.
>>5702823
Delete this posts and never speak of it again or else
>>5702833
Why not? I know plenty of bitches that post too many selfies all day every day on facebook. I think my friends are just as sad as me.
This is the most normal site for trans I could find. People my age creep me out.
>>5702835
Lonely birthday party pics always make me so sad :( I wish I could be a friend for hire and go to peoples birthdays to keep them company
who here /flying across the country to join the yume harem/
>>5702827
You know i got awyou bruh. Trust fall, any time.
>>5702842
>I wouldn't be surprised if some idiot really believed the lifetime suicide attempt = suicide rate unironically enough to do this,
yeah the actual ratio is like wayyy less than 1%. I dont know anyone who did it.
>>5702845
D:
oh god I am so sorry
>>5702850
you seem cool. I bet youre fun to be around irl.
can you bake?
>>5702850
>This is the most normal site [...] I could find.
Proof that your generation is shit with computers.
Glad to have you though.
>>5702798
Definitely not a hons idk why you think of yourself that way. You one of the rare late transitioners that actually had things work out.
>>5702856
>awyou
god you're fucking silly. thank you.
>almost 2y hrt
>
>tfw no passerino
>>5702857
you know too much
>>5702870
Ive been here for years, I pick up a thing or two.
heres the deal: get me in on the betting (which, obviously doesnt exist) and I wont tell anyone.
your call.
>really want srs
>painfully so, feel like I can't wait till I get through this wait list
>searching around for some info
>find a video of the procedure
>NOPE
why can't I just have a vagina without needing surgery ;~;
>>5702851
mine's may 24 if you want to come hang out and braid each other's hair
>>5702876
you wont have to do the surgery yourself. youll just sleep through it all. it isnt that bad honestly.
>>5702876
The procedure isn't that bad... no pain no gain.
I'm not pleased with the results.
>tfw synthvag never
>>5702877
My friend is coming to visit in a couple weeks, if thats what you're asking. Still no clue what I'm gonna do though.
>>5702857
>you seem cool. I bet youre fun to be around irl.
can you bake?
Thank you. Yes I am super fun to be around unless I am in a boo hoo anxiety attack, but when I am happy I am awesome.
Yes I can bake. I am a really good cook all around.
>>5702858
I am certainly shit with computers, but not my whole generation. My old college roomate was some sort of computer super genius. He could do stuff that was like tv. He got arrested by the FBI when he was 16 for hacking the phone company. Now he works for a data collection company and I think secretly for the NSA.
>>5702860
I thought hon just meant late transitioner. I didn't know what it really meant. Also, I get it. I have met enough in real life to think. Yuck something is off about them.
I am very blessed to have pulled this off it appears. People are nice to me and I have a job. So that is transition success. I think many older transitioners could if they learned how to actually fulfill the role and not be a caricature.
>>5702818
>Where are the other almost normal old transitioners? I can't be the only one
There isnt many because testosterone eventually fucks up your face over that many years. But you ended up very lucky.
YUME FESS UP
DID YOU FUCC VEKTROID?
>>5702889
I did. Think I need some ffs though? Would it help?
>>5702901
i meant your pandalinks jeez. idk just do you, if you feel comfortable with it, make fucc???
Do I pass?
>>5702910
#dontpassdespitefat
i just lost the gene lottery, mang. also i had to deal with transfeels for 13 years, why haven't i shot up a school yet?
>>5702915
you look great hon
>tfw you try to take a picture of your problem features and for some reason they don't show up in photos when they're super obvious in mirrors
>>5702914
they gave me some benzos the day before I think. probably wont be a problem :3
>>5702851
>ywn go to his birthday party
>ywn have him teach you about jazz while you eat cake with him
>>5702915
Cis/10
>>5702919
Iktf. No passing, not ever.
>>5702876
Because you already are a huge pussy. Lol jk. Seriously though, totally creeped out by it but it will be so worth it.
>>5702927
youre better off than me, faggot. as i said AGAIN AND AGAIN just hang on until you sort out your co-pay homie.
im so hungover
someone send me greasy food
>>5702907
>make fuck
Hoky shit what if i make fuck what if i make fuck all over the floor
Hes already seen my panda links. He knows im a degenerate. He hates cuckong and wont let me ntr him. Holy shit, me, a neet ladyboy, will make fuck?
>>5702910
What does kohai even mean? Is that like senpai?
I should be writing my scooby doo script but instead I'm reading shoujo
>>5702928
>dysmorphia
Is this what insanity feels like?
>>5702944
You're calling yourself my senpai?!?!?!?!
Gufawh
my friend left a message that sounds like she was raped last night, and I fell asleep and didn't get it, and now I feel sick, and I can't talk to anyone really about it or trip because people might figure it out, this is ducking horrible and I hope she's ok
>>5702938
> scooby doo script
When ever this thread catches my eye its aways something like this .
>>5702944
I want off this wild ride :(
>>5702871
Smart girl, your cut will be in the mail
>>5702958
samee
>>5702964
nice, i'm in.
>>5702968
CAN ANYBODY FIND MEEEEEEEE
Somebody to cuuuuuuuuuuuck~
Why do I look so male?
>>5702933
But I have like $0.75 right now. I gotta respond to job emails when I get discharged. .-.
Also, I mean I might be looking at more too..
Here's a (f)artist's interpretation of my profile desu.
>>5702945
He seems like he would be pretty cool desu. Berkeley jazz kids seem like they would be patrician as fuck.
>>5702989
why are you even in hospital again?
i didn't hear the meme behind it.
>>5702980
Because you were born with XY chromosomes.
>>5702955
if I got raped I would jump for joy because at least that would mean I pass enough to me mistaken as a real girl
>>5702995
>implying males don't get raped
epic.try jumping for joy off a cliff.
>>5702995
I think you'd end up killing him.
>>5702994
But even after hrt I look more male than most men.
>>5702992
Just a fever and then my parents panicked because they couldn't do anything about it. Well, rather my mom panicked.
>>5702995
(you)
>>5703005
sounds dumb. i hope you can get back on your feet soon.
>>5702995
(You)
>>5702995
It's a terrible feeling that never really goes away and haunts you for he rest of your life
>>5703021
interacting with kayla, or being raped?
Is it safe to shitpost here?
>>5703036
Consider suicide
Omg I'll know in two days whether or not I got my dream job at one of the best companies
I'm freaking out :( There's no way things will work out for once, right?
My gf got us a cooking class for Valentine's Day, we're going to learn how to make macaroons.
>tfw becoming better housewife material
>>5703037
Bruh i got my drank
>>5703041
Good luck
>>5703036
>agreeing with Kayla
>on that of all things
The buoying respect I once had for you just went full Titanic.
>tfw envy trans people because there is no surgery to fix me
>tfw literally impossible to pass because of male face and huge head
>>5703047
Because even though we don't have sex, she still occasionally spanks me and sucks on my breasts, which is a little intimate.
>>5703036
>As stupid and illogical as this is i feel the same way.
Obviously I don't really mean it but yeah, the bit of confirmation would make me feel worth something. You can tell how lonely I am if even the "affection" of a rapist would be comforting.
>>5703048
I really cant help the way i feel. I also have obvious mental issues with my past abuse. I want to date men, but I'm afraid of them because its the second most terrifying experience I've ever had. I'm afraid they'll rape me, but i want to be raped, because it'll prove my feminine worth. Shits stupid.
>>5702590
>tfw I might be str8
JUST
>>5703037
>nobody will ever tell you to kill yourself
>>5703058
live a long happy life
>>5703053
My mom used to spank me and I used to suckle her breasts but I wouldn't say she's my gf now would I?
>>5703061
Hõt
>>5703057
lol sux to be U
>>5702995
iktf
>>5703061
>Breast fed
Reee normie get out
>>5702590
So anyone want to help femgen with their denial before they do something drastic and hurt themselves?
>want to post selfie
>will be told to kill myself if i do because neverpass
nice
>>5703074
>wanting to be raped again
>empowering a rapist who will go on to do it to others
>compounding the problem
All so you can get off? Why don't you not create a criminal who thinks theyre entitled to get off whenever they want and just say you want a bf that will rape play with you.
>>5703075
Leave the pretty boys alone and let me frolic in their beauty.
>mfw people think I'm crazy when I say ugly people have it worse
>>5703060
>>5703083
Well, given how many salty anons are funposting here, you're more likely to be told to kill yourself if you pass than if you don't.
>>5703083
I thought that would happen too. But I posted an unsee and everyone called me cute (I'm not) and gave me some advice.
Post that shit anon
>>5703084
I started at 20 so I guess so ;_;
>>5703091
>being salty of a hon
Cfh has activated damage control mode
>>5703064
I was sexually abused by my opa, fuck you.
>>5703085
Sloooow down. Its not like i was making plans and I have no intention of "creating a rapist". I just am admitting i have some problems and weird thoughts. If someone even tried rape play with me i would probably kill them.
>>5703102
No you were not
>>5703024
Yes.
>>5703103
Kindly remove yourself from this general beergut
>>5703102
is that why you pretend to be trans?
>>5703084
>tfw started blockers in my final days in underageb&land
>tfw still hon
How to cope with losing the genetic lottery this much?
>>5703103
>If someone even tried rape play with me i would probably kill them.
that's all it takes? i've been asking people to kill me for fucking years.
>>5703101
>anything but death threats is hugboxing
Kill yourself my man
>>5703110
no, and I am not pretending, my face is tragic so I can't pass or go fulltime
>>5703084
>wuts wrong?
I'm not entirely sure. I keep trying to kill myself and will probably succeed sooner or later.
>>5703111
pleb, come the fuck on. i am an embodiment of this feeling. you have potential. softly fuck you.
>>5703114
>everyone called me cute (I'm not)
>everyone called me cute (I'm not)
>everyone called me cute (I'm not)
do you have a reading disability, or a fucking mental impairment? don't reply to me, bruh.
this is what the "kill yourself" anon looks like
>>5703115
Buy a gun and shoot yourself.
Geeeez looks like I'm not the only one feeling down today.
>>5703109
Please be nice to me
>>5703123
this meme is growing on me.
>>5703119
What's dysphoria. Exit this thread sir.
>>5703124
Iktf, pull up a chair
>>5703123
u first
>>5703095
yeah I started at 18 and still wish I'd started earlier
when I was younger people constantly thought I was a girl
>>5703111
I try to take solace in at least kinda passing as an ugly girl and realize there are even worse genetic fuck-ups I could be stuck with
>>5703117
do u know y?
have u tried seeing a doc?
>>5703124
It's like how when a bunch of cis girls get together their periods synchronize, except it's trans girls and depression.
>>5703064
>privileged sheltered white girls
This board is a joke
>>5703124
I'm feeling great and want to hug everyone.
>>5703130
do you have to be told twice? fuck off retard.
>tfw manlier then when you started