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Butch dyke thread: >>5681569
Old thread was better
Kill
>>5682516
I don't know why you're so mean.
>>5682520
'cause I'm a B I T C H
>>5682522
noh
>>5682522
Why are you dragging drama into a new thread? Are you this desperate for attention?
Good night /mtfg/
>tfw xsmall is too tight around your shoulders but small is too big.
It's impossible to find clothes that fit
>>5682541
>tfw I would be a small but shoulders make me have to wear a large
>>5682538
Good morning Kuppycake
>>5682546
What how big are they? That sounds comically disproportionate.
I love Zizek. Anybody have rare audio of him speaking? I've seen and heard hours of stuff.
What are going to do on this wonderful morning you filthy meatbags?
>>5682581
Walking to work right now
Kill me please
Fuck! I missed the butch dyke edition.
Good morning. Does anyone else's voice go a little deeper after they have sex, drink alcohol, or smoke? Mine does. I find myself talking aloud to get it in a suitable range. Guessing my neighbors think I'm a nut if they can hear me through the walls.
>>5682581
feel alive, hopefully.
>tfw started as a 8/10 attractive guy
>tfw pig-fucking-ugly as a girl
euthanasia for trans when
>>5682581
Moving back to my grandparents house to dodge homelessness. I keep telling myself it's not a step backward..
I'll finally have food though. Can you imagine? I get to eat something that isn't rice or beans!
>>5682588
Enjoy work
>>5682600
Better than being homeless
Want to buy black over knee socks because it would go well with a dress I have, but mtfg has convinced me they're AGP.
Wat do
>>5682581
i just got up and im making coffee and a bagel
1st for remove kebab
>>5682600
Good luck with all that. Could end up being a rewarding experience for you all.
>>5682581
Headed to the library to read and write until the sun goes down. I don't have to study too hard but if I get it done now then it will completely be off my mind later :) Trying not 2 be gigantic procrastinatorrrrrr
>>5682611
buy them anyway because PC's come with AGP standard on the motherboards because it's 2016
>>5682606
>enjoy work
No
>>5682611
Normies don't know about meme socks irl. I rock them in the fall semi often and hear nothing but compliments.
>>5682611
I just wear black leggings with everything because they look good and feel good.
>>5682620
not mine :')
>>5682581
today I have to decide my fate, move in a rented room in laguna beach and work shit jobs to stay alive or stay with mom and go back to school.
>>5682631
or 3.) neither just continue to play the worlds loudest violin for yourself
>>5682622
I won't enjoy my day at work either.
Working on stupid bowl day sucks
>>5682635
I can't, my parents are totally finally divorced and step dad is out of my life and state on the 20th so I have to either move into a smaller place with my insane mom or live in the room I rented in orange country.
>>5682642
but you're doing it right now.
So the weekend is almost over. How was your weekend /mtfg/? What are you plans for the week?
>>5681561
this is a depressing thread
>tfw started at 20
>tfw will never have a satisfying or happy life
>>5682659
It was good! Stayed out late on Friday drinking with friends and grinded on some straight guys who had no idea, lol. Hung out with ex yesterday and did some shopping with her. It's silly but we almost constantly make eachother laugh. We watched Peep Show at her place and she wanted me to stay but I can't get involved again for the wrong reasons.
This week I plan on attending my classes and doing what I need 2 do to pay bills.
I need to shorten my replies, fuvk.
Tell me about your week/weekend? :)
>>5682672
My weekend was pretty good. Had a friend visiting from down south, so everyone got together for that on Saturday night which was pretty gucci. I had a pretty bad day today, just feeling really shit about myself, but I'm better now, so :thumbs:. I have Monday off work,I've got speech pathologist, 2nd laser treatment and psych, all in one day. So that is pretty crazy, but I'm looking forward to it.
>>5682660
This whole thread is bullshit by people who aren't even trying.
>>5682700
I've been trying, trying for you :)
>>5682696
Cool. I'm glad you feel better. Does a speech pathologist make your vocals more femme? If so, I'm jealous.
>>5682704
I have no idea. I've only seen them once and we didn't really do any training. It was all measuring my vocal range and stuff (Which apparently I have a good vocal range but maybe she was hugboxing me). She will give me actual training stuff and advice tomorrow. The first session was more of a consultation/analysis.
>>5682702
Maybe not you, but fuck. You're just starting and listening to retarded cis memesters who would love nothing more than to think their sick, distorted understanding of biology is some sort of god-given truth.
The only magic hrt does is on your body and dysphoria. It won't make you not depressed if you are, and it won't put your life on the rails alone.
>>5682711
>hugboxxing vocal range
lol?
if you can hit the note she wanted, you can speak in a female pitch. that's just science, son.
>>5682715
I didn't speak a 'female' note. She just asked to say things like 'aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa', 'nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo' and 'eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee' for as long as I could, slowly increasing volume and pitch as possible in my natural (male) voice. She just said I had really good results for range. I still naturally have really masculine voice so maybe she was just saying I had potential because get clients, get dosh.
>>5682711
>hugbox
>range
You can't hugbox with a tuner.
>>5682660
I started in earnest at 35. And it looks like I'm headed towards a kind of life I never even imagined. Certainly a lot better than where i was when I started out.
>>5682714
Uh wat....?
>>5682746
idk dude, I slept two hours
Anime girls.
>>5682642
I stood up for you last night, people said you were as bad as Chris Chan but I was like no way.
>>5682737
all very well and good if you don't have absolute shit-tier genetics like some of us
who /bruises easily on hrt/ here?
>>5682765
you, judging by your ego.
>>5682768
Yeah, my ego and hubris is killing my life. I just wasn't prepared for the social downgrade being trans does to a person.
>>5682770
you can be a tolerable person if you work towards it, puffnips.
>>5682752
>>5682774
I hate work, I don't know why but work actually seems like torture. I wish I could afford a life coach to follow me and make me do stuff and make sure I am not slacking off.
>>5682565
nope. but I love him too.
What is the least painful method of suicide? Is there a consensus?
>inb4 'old age'
HRT stops male pattern baldness, right? Im not sure if im actually going bald but im fucking terrified of it.
>>5682796
suspension drop hanging, if you do it right you will pass out 30 seconds or less and die in 5
>>5682802
Correct, anon :)
>>5682809
taking that long to pass out feels like it'd trigger the panic response, if I take strong sleeping pills so that I'm unconscious when I fall that should still work, right?
i'm kind of in shock still from some recent events
mtfg in the most autistic way ever got me the best bf i could ever dream for
>>5682822
hanging is literally the most variable way to die ever and is most of the time horribly painful
coming from someone who DID try to hang themselves and was left choking for what felt like forever.
do yourself a favor and make a suicide machine
get some basic crafting skills and rig up a stand with shotguns pointing at various vital spots that shoots them all at the same time, and have one aimed at the back of your head, brainstem level
rig it so the head level one goes off a fraction before the other ones, they'll follow and destroy your heart. lungs, ect
>>5682825
yea?
>>5682835
well ok
i just dont want someone else to wind up with brain damage like me for just wanting to end their suffering
>>5682834
I was worried your first point might be the case...
guns seem like they'd be even more painful though? would sleeping pills really not make the former easier??
>>5682844
no, sleeping pills will just make you wake up in a pool of vomit and you'll need your stomach pumped
a shotgun blast to the brainstem won't hurt, and if it does it'll be the briefiest pain ever
making a stand to put several on and aiming at the brain plus other organs is just an idea of mine i'm working on creating for myself
i don't want to slip up again
you should either not kill yourself or kill the fuck out of yourself. you can't go back once you pick one
>>5682839
yeah
literally got the best bf ever from shitposting and deciding to chase him when i saw his post
and now im cured of the transbian disease
>>5682844
double barrel to the reptile brain at a slight upwards angle should take care of it. i hope. ive already designed such a device on paper, all i need is some pipe to build it
>>5682865
you live close by?
>>5682874
i don't think sleeping pills work like that
if you want to be knocked OUT you'd need be sedated dude
>>5682796
Don't know, for my latest attempt, I chose the most protracted and exacting method: terminal starvation and dehydration. Got pretty close to death. The good thing about it is that you get a lot of time to think about what you're doing, and because of that, it can't be dismissed as an impulsive gesture like most other methods. I think it's part of why I made such a strong impression on the shrinks here. The head psychiatrist keeps talking about my terrifying willpower to everyone she shows me to.
>>5682869
yeah he just made me cum
>>5682887
oh wow, congrats anon =]
>>5682865
how does this work, i havent met anyone who could cure mine but good on you that you have!
>>5682784
>I wish I could afford a life coach to follow me and make me do stuff and make sure I am not slacking off
but you'd just shit on their advice and say you know better and trying is too hard
>>5682923
i mean, i get that too, but ive just never been attracted to guys in person. idk maybe i should just look harder for a gf
>>5682940
just become your own gf :^)
>>5682784
That's because work IS torture.
>>5682863
I actually dreamt of owning a gun today, I remember thinking about why I would own a gun or who would even give one to me in my current state.
>>5682948
how can i impregnate myself? i need more science to give me a womb.
tfw dont know if ill ever have a family of my own or forever be alone :c
>tfw u thought u might be able to get a vagina by moving to canada and getting free healthcare but u found out that's not going to work and now u are going to be stuck with a gt forever and its terrible
>>5682962
>forever
Nothing, good or bad, lasts forever. You'll get SRS sooner or later, don't worry.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtIuFToHwUI
>tfw you will never pass and you're a disgusting mess
>tfw sister is coming over to help me do my hair up really fancy for a date
God I love having two sisters. I feel sorry for you girls without sisters. Biggest source of suport and instruction in my transition. I would be so lost without them.
>>5682995
i know this feeling too anon
>>5682996
>tfw my sister is basically boymode and asexual and not very good with femininity
She's a total bro, and I love her
>>5682865
I got the best gf ever from shit posting too. Shit posting is the best way to find true love
>>5682962
lol bitch
>>5683011
My little sister is basically your sister cept shes also gay. Older sister is suoer feminine and loves to hrlp me find clothes and make me all pretty.
Even when we were kids she'd dress me up as her little sister. I fucking love her so much. Id gladly take a bullet for her.
>>5683012
*farts*
>>5682511
Žižek is da man!
>>5683029
n o
>>5683029
i w i s h
>>5683036
its okay anon, we can be disgusting pieces of shit together
>all this sappy family talk
>>5683026
>Id gladly take a bullet for her.
meanwhile, i got to be abused by my brother, who grew up into that same kind of extroverted sociopath that normal people love
So I went for a long run today and didn't forget to lube up my balls beforehand.
Makes post-run recovery so much more pleasant.
>>5682631
Move out, obvs. I haven't been here in a year, and if you don't emancipate yourself you'll never make progress
>>5683055
masturbating?
>>5683047
Have you also not been gendered female in 3 years and is a pig disgusting neet?
>>5683052
Im sorry about that anon I can't imagine how hard that must be
>>5683055
>lube up my balls
wut?
>>5683052
While it's no excuse it must be tough when your brother turns out to be a pathetic tranny.
>>5683064
pig cute neet :3
>>5683064
i... im just starting, but i have an intense fear ill end up worse that now.
im sorry for you not being gendered correctly. i am a pig disgusting neet though
>>5683084
where you from?
>>5683080
You slather your balls and the insides of your running gear so there won't be any friction leading to irritation. It's like butt secks, you even use vaseline.
>>5683090
What torment? Time to man up nigga. It's not like you have anything to loose.
>>5683088
denmark, you?
>>5683082
No ;_;
I'm transpassing tier.
>>5683084
>whining when just starting out
pls
>>5683089
thats a good tip
>>5683070
Yep, now do it!
How's your transition going otherwise?
>>5682995
same
life isn't worth living, I have no hope left
>>5683089
>vaselilne for buttsex
>>5683089
Look at those man shoulders
>>5683089
that sounds uncomfortable as fuck, gross
>>5683103
Oh come on anon. With all those ugly hons (some of them posting in this general) leading happy lives why would you give up?
>>5683108
I meant that you use lube to get rid of friction.
>>5683111
Sexy ain't it?
>>5683097
but im really scared anon. i dont even know who or what i am. all i know is im a failure
>>5683035
*sniff*
>>5683119
>man shoulders
>sexy
Sure if you like men
>>5683119
because the entire problem is that I don't feel comfortable with my body and living in it is like torture
if it was as simple as just flicking a switch in your brain to not minding that anymore then why would any of us transition at all?
>>5683121
sounds pretty familiar ;)
What are the earliest effects of taking hormones and at what dose/etc? Is there somewhere I can get info on this? I want to just take hrt for fun and for fetishist reasons.
But I dont wanna have to spend loadsamoney of dollars over the course of several years just to have minimal effects.
>>5683094
>Time to man up nigga
what? no
i'm here for a reason
>It's not like you have anything to loose.
i don't have anything i want to gain by being nice to him
>>5683133
as in you know me or that this is common?
if the latter, how do i make it though it?
>>5683132
All women have insecurities. Yours are worse because of dysphoria. There's a point where they stop being real.
All trans women have some insecurities, most have trouble believing they pass normally for a long time.
>>5683121
Just don't turn out like me and you'll be fine.
>>5683128
This girl is my 10/10 and has my goal body. Shes my rock climbing role model.
>>5683117
You lube up, you put on that tight running gear, you look 1000% sexier. Guranteed.
>>5683128
That girl is super hot anon. Do you even know who that is?
>>5683132
You will never feel comfortable with your body hence all this shit. But you can come to terms with it. Shape it into something you might find acceptable.
>>5683145
He is never going to respect you until you show some teeth.
>>5683155
how did you turn out more specifically?
i think im a lost cause already though
>>5683138
>liking athletic women
They're just pseduo men :^)
>>5683152
Pretty much this. YMMV, though. I feel 100% secure about my passing, but I have BDD that goes up to 11. People roll eyes when I complain about my face and talk about my surgery plans.
>>5683149
as in it sounds like me, if I knew I wouldn't be here.
>>5683162
Climbers look great.
>>5683166
A manly man after 3 years of hrt
>i think im a lost cause already though
Probably not unless you're old or have shit stats.
>>5683165
i don't want his respect
i want to be left alone
>>5683165
>But you can come to terms with it. Shape it into something you might find acceptable.
tried that- hrt, corset training...
all hairstyles look bad on me because I have a man's face
makeup or female clothes just makes me look like a fucking joke
nothing works when you've got the bottom 2% tier of genetics
>>5683177
Being in shape and pushing yourself is not a soley masculine trait. It shows dedication to your body and is attractive to people who value those traits.
Being able to endure lasting pain is a distinctly human trait. I want to show others that I am a human and not just a creature that picks the easiest path.
Where's Elanna I need someone to flirt with
>>5683182
That ain't happening. He smelled blood in the water.
>>5683177
I spent considerable amount of time watching girls run and I assure you those asses are not flat. Would gymnasts be more to your liking?
>>5683189
Bullshit. Post pic before I berate you more.
>>5683178
Stop lying about yourself lainanon.
>>5683210
Her vidya skills scream manly man to me.
there is a man sleeping on my sidewalk with a can of beer in his hand and a case of bud light as a pillow
>>5683210
I'm not though.
>>5683223
Haven't you said you pass as an ugly girl? Still counts.
>>5683222
pls don't disturb me. it's comfy out hern
>>5683222
same
>>5683227
oh are you having fun this mardi gras season at least?
>>5683225
Other people have said that but ugly girls don't look like men.
>tfw I shouldn't have been born in the first place
>>5683236
you are ugly. mainly on the inside. you're just a disgusting person overall.
>>5683242
That's what I'm certain of about myself. I just hope someday I'll be able to see the beauty others see in me...
>>5683242
Only on the outside tbhon but thanks for your wrong opinion bro.
>>5683236
You've said that about yourself.
People have said that you were full of shit about it.
>>5683260
Full of shit about what?
Passing yes.
>>5683263
Finally you admit you're full of shit about your claims of not passing, good.
Considering you've never, ever claimed to pass, "full of shit about passing" doesn't mean what you want to make people believe in your current nonsense.
>>5683222
Livin da life
>>5683269
I think it's just the pics though, no one who has seen me irl would gender me female tbhon.
>>5683274
>mado will never cut off one of your fingers then stroke your hair while you are crying and bleeding all over the floor.
Good morning mtfg~
>>5683274
im gonna tell him you said that.
do I pass yet?
>>5683278
Post cute pic plox
>>5683290
Grutal. There would be biteing, cutting of fingers probably less so.
>>5683299
Good mornings!
>>5683301
All he needs is sum acid
>>5683301
u gon get raep
>tfw you realize how pointless a concept like passing really is
>>5679943
looks like somebody forgot to take their meds...
>>5683299
heya
>>5683305
not even close lol. clocked just from the thumbnail
>>5683318
>castle
he'll just siege the castle!
>>5683316
idk, maybe im just fine with looking like a cute trap on hormones and i just dont care as much as i did before hrt. I'm kind of just over it, some people call me cute, so I'm happy.
>>5683305
no, good hair but you need to change your face shape
FFS or something
try losing weight
>>5683311
>tfw you live in an area where not passing ensures that you will be treated like subhuman trash
>>5683325
well good for you.
now
>>>/femgen/
>>5683305
is that a penis?
>>5683312
>that post
What
>>5683333
yes
>>5683309
I don't have any cute pics and posting a pic where everyone hates me is dumb lel.
>>5683336
...
>>5683340
???
>>5683330
Yeah, but are at least nice to us non passers here in SoCal, but I travel a fair bit so I have to worry.
In fact I am asking my cousin if I can get a job out in Phoenix in a few days. I got a feeling they will kill me because I look like a dude out there. The LA job market is horrible ;_:
>>5683323
goo luck, im behind seven locks
>>5683305
Cute femboy
>>5683318
Right, cause I need that acid.
>>5683328
I'm pretty good myself just chillin watching gantz with peeps. Still tired from other days party.
I was going to come out to my family today, but my mum killed herself last night. Should I still come out?
>>5683346
well aren't you a sneaky aunt!
>>5683353
>>5683355
yes also rape
>>5683355
>>5683355
delete this
>>5683355
>>5683338
I don't hate you though! I don't even know any who does.
>>5683338
I do hate you though! I even know plenty of others that do.
>>5683370
hot
>>5683371
>>5683355
>>5683370
please remove yourself from the thread, sir
>>5683371
Thanks anon.
>>5683375
>tfw bone structure like quentin tarantino
why even fucking bother trying senpai
>>5683384
show butt
>>5683344
Yeah, travelling tends to make me super nervous. At least I know people won't get violent with me here, elsewhere it's always back of mind.
>>5683350
No, and I do have accepting friends and family. However, there are at least a few that I'm positive would be less comfortable with me if I didn't pass. Dealing with the ridicule of the general public every day too, idk.
>>5683383
iktf friend.
>>5683382
>>5683386
I think its probably more important to be attractive than to pass, but idk im like 12 years old and barely on hormones
>>5683375
...
>>5683389
>>5683394
>tfw your face is too long
why genes, why?
is a maxilla reduction plausible with ffs? please be
>>5683394
my clinginess towards my ex won't stop. kill me.
>>5683394
>>5683399
>>5683404
10/10
>>5683421
Bully
>>5683421
do you have a reading disability? kill me.
>>5683400
I dont think ffs surgeons would do that, sounds pretty extreme so probably would only be done if you had heavy facial damage
>>5683424
Kill me too and you got yourself a deal
>>5683354
yes.
>>5683429
i doubt you will.
>>5683390
Yeah, that's a good attitude to have. Caring less helps you pass more anyways so it's a win-win.
I cared a lot less about passing early transition as well, but I started caring a lot more about passing after a few instances of not passing led to open ridicule, or my safety being threatened.
>>5683401
Iktf, fucking shitty feeling
>>5683426
yea i havent been able to find anything on it either, mostly google brings up results related to complex facial fractures...
it really sucks if it cant be done, its something ive hated about myself since i was a kid. perhaps you know of any alternatives if i post a pic?
>>5683358
anyone save the images of this guy?
I'm gonna dox xer
>>5683432
I am not! ... Only when they like it, mostly.
>>5683437
I woulds if you held up your end
I'm gonna move out of my mom's place tomorrow. Throughout the day I've been okay because playing SMT Nocturne and then RE5 split-screen with my friend occupied me, but now I feel a bit like throwing up. I've only lived on my own for a few short months during my college semester abroad and I didn't manage to keep track of my finances or leave my room in the least, but I mostly feel positive about moving out because I've matured since then.
I want to play with a transsexual's penis against his will as I'm giving him a good pounding from behind bringing him to a screaming orgasm.
>>5683463
Try ftm gen then.
>>5683460
Grats! I hope things go well for you. It's hard to make those decisions for change like that and actually deciding to go for it is the first major step.
Also I totally thought you were someone else here because of name starting with k + the subject matter hah. Shows how common the scenario is really though.
>>5683463
woaw O________O
>>5683457
bully me
I want to buck my hips against a transgirls cute butt as I fill her up to the brim with my cum
>>5683471
You can be such a thirsty slut sometimes Rems
Going to try something about my image issues. Rather than booking a consultation with a FFS surgeon who'll tell me everything has to be fixed, I'm booking a photo shoot with a professional photographer who's done great work about "different" bodies over the years. Won't cost me much more and if the pictures are good, it might be enough to turn me away from expensive and probably unnecessary surgery.
>>5683472
Same.
>>5683472
Good feel ~
>>5683485
kek saved
I dont want to be trans anymore.
![IMG_8521[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/DBmIE2v.jpg "IMG_8521[1].jpg")
>>5683328
got a bunch of stuff today for free. this braclet is pretty neat
>>5683479
*shrugs*
>>5683501
here's another angle for extra kekposting
