/lgbt/, why is it that femmes who like other femmes seem to be, like. Mythical creatures.
Every single girl who's ever been into me (which is not a lot) has been butch or at least chapstick. I've been told by more than one lesbian that my "very straight" appearance is off-putting. The fuck. mffw.
Other femmes who like femmes, if you're out there. Pls post ITT so I know I'm not alone in this world orz
AGP Lesbians. They exist, though they usually fetishize men as AAP gays do women.
Am I Chapstick lesbian if i wear plain v necks and shorts? I don't wear a shit ton of makeup but mostly mascara eyeshadow and sometimes gloss. Trying to be more femme
mostly cause there's a ton of political lesbians running around nowadays
>>5607200
Nah. I mean, from your description you sound to me more femme than chapstick. Also, you don't need to try to be more femme if you don't want to m'dear.
>>5607171
I'm butch so I'm probably biased here, but... anything more feminine than chapstick requires a lot of effort. Makeup and fashion require a huge time investment to learn and practice routinely. Just look at /mtfg/. There's no purpose to it either, other than looking good.
I feel like a lot of straight women go full lipstick because they know that's what men want, and lesbians just... don't give a fuck. There's no reason to try that hard to get a woman to sleep with you. There's some strict femme4femme types out there but even the women that actively avoid butches aren't going to complain if you never wear eyeliner. The only lesbians who go full femme are the ones who just really, really care about looking like the women on billboards for whatever reason.
>>5607219
I respectfully but completely disagree with almost everything you've said.
>There's no purpose to it either, other than looking good.
Wrong. If I do my hair/makeup/put on a nice outfit, it's not because I want to look good for the sake of looking good. It's all about how it makes me feel. Presenting myself in a way that feels right to be is a huge part of my identity and a big factor playing into my daily happiness.
>The only lesbians who go full femme are the ones who just really, really care about looking like the women on billboards for whatever reason.
So wrong. I'm not sure what you mean by "full femme", but. I'm a conventionally attractive woman. I'm fit, have a nice face, I wear nice clothes, etc. I don't give a flying winged fuck about looking at the women on the billboards. I look cute because I want to look cute FOR MYSELF. I have never in my life dolled my appearance for the sole purpose of attracting a partner.
>>5607235
Yeah, I just don't understand that mentality at all. I get absolutely no pleasure out of painting my face in the morning, it feels like a huge waste of time and I love how I look without the hassle. You do you though anon.
i consider myself a femme who likes other femmes! it's nice to hear i'm not alone :')
>>5607171
That's like my biggest fantasy and it's hard to find femmes because some of them are either in the closet or straight.
How do you even tell if she's a femme lesbian? Some girls who are straight just flirt for fun which is pretty fucked up
>>5607249
Honestly, I hate makeup. Makeup is expensive and the process of putting it on fucking sucks. But to me, there's nothing quite like heading out feeling like I look beautiful. To me, doing some killer eyeliner and putting on red lipstick can turn a shit day into a great day. Again tho, all with utmost respect, anon. Lesbians on the internet must look out for one another since, y'know, we don't exist.
>>5607255
Nope, you're not alone and neither am I. Hi qt.
>>5607261
It is fucked up. I can't tell you how many of my straight friends get drunk and start hella flirting with me only to be all "ew that was so weird I can't believe I tried to kiss you" in the morning. I like to drop subtle hints in my appearance that I'm gay. Like, I have a bunch of rainbow pins on my bag, hah. I also wear flannel a lot.
>>5607275
>But to me, there's nothing quite like heading out feeling like I look beautiful.
I think is the difference between us. I don't feel like makeup makes me any more or less attractive than I normally am. It just makes me look different. I've never prioritized my appearance very highly either though, so what do I know.
But yeah, all respect to what you're doing. Hope you find a qt 3.14 femme to date soon.
>>5607275
I really hate those girls who say they support lgbt and they are full on straight. Like really? They even made their header the lgbt flag on some gay pride day. What a fucking tease.
>>5607171
I'm femme but I'm only interested in chapstick and butch because I don't really like girls. I want a boyfriend but I hate dick and love vagina.
>>5607171
i'm a gay dude but every single one of the lesbians i know are femmes who are into femmes... maybe it's just where you live anon
>>5607411
Seriously where do you live lmao
>>5607411
Word. Please tell me where this femme wonderland is so I can move there.
>>5607411
NYC. i don't know if that's the norm here and it's not like i hang out with dozens and dozens of lesbians but the ones i do know are all lipstick.
>>5607401
Sounds to me like you date to date an FTM.
I'm a femme and I like both femme and butch girls, but I'm bi so idk if I help dispel the mythical creature status. Either way I'm going to college in Boston :)
>>5607435
why are you even posting here
Can I just say being a femme who likes femme makes me insecure at time. I mean not to be stereotypical, but most femmes won't even look or talk to me if you don't reach a certain level of attractiveness. Idk if this makes any sense. But being a femme liking femme is tough because everyone is constantly out prettying each other and you can never be pretty enough for anyone for fucks sake.
In femme and I think other femmes are cunts a majority of the time.
>>5607583
Totally get it. It sucks. :/ I also feel like most femmes who like femmes have a specific type that they like and I don't fit that type.
>>5607590
how about u leave
>>5607182
>AGP
Stop spreading this crap all over the board.
>>5607595
Fuck off fatso
>>5607171
i'm butch, but i don't understand lesbians who like us honestly, femme or otherwise
>>5607626
Low selfo is weak.
Not butch but I do get intimidated by pretty feminine women. I get nervous and don't know what to say so try to avoid them where possible. With butches or chapsticks I don't get flustered. Just comes with have low self-confidence which is terrible.
I wonder if this also happens with gay men. Like. Do guys also feel insecure around really attractive masculine dudes? Hm.
>>5607636
nothing to do with my self esteem. i just don't look like a woman, not sure why women who go out of their way to be attracted to women would like me
>>5607275
>Makeup is expensive and the process of putting it on fucking sucks. But to me, there's nothing quite like heading out feeling like I look beautiful
this is why i dont trust girls when they say "i dont do it for anyone else/cause of society". theres a reason you feel ugly without makeup on. i just dont understand why girls dont deal with that poor self esteem instead of giving tons of money to men to put a bandaid on a festering wound
inb4 "i do it to express myself" obviously that's different
>>5607743
straight pls leave
>>5607583
I know this feel so fucking hard. I like unconventionally attractive girls so I don't mind if her face is like 4/10 but even those girls are expecting a solid 7 or 8 /10.
Im bi, but very girly and would love to date a lipstick lesbian
>>5607171
My rebuttal is why don't femmes ever go for chapstick lesbians? Tomboys always get the short end of the stick.
femme who only really likes femmes here. i love my gf
>>5607171
my cis friend was a lipstick lesbian, but she was a tranny chaser so idk
>>5607743
Not fem/butch but always thought the same thing (no offence to you anon)
But I guess they do, like some men have a thing for twinks, some women have a thing for butch
>>5608607
Ironically enough they almost always get the long end of the dick.
>>5608607
>tfw femme
>tfw no chapstick gf
Try and find a trans girl. Those seem to be the only lesbians I know of that actually try to seem feminine most of the time. I know dicks are gross, but you can get past it if they're attractive in every other way.
>>5607171
there are plenty of femmes who like femmes. They don't get together because they act like straight girls, and wait to be approached. If two femmes are at a girlbar, they will glance at each other from across the room, and think that it is the other girl's job to come over and talk to them. In the meantime, a butch girl will come and hit on one of them.
>>5607664
No, we gays guys are usually not that afraid of really attractive guys. Although we try to avoid them before knowing whether or not they are gay. Straight guys are really insecure about that.
By what I've heard from my straight guy friends it seems attractive women are kinda cunts. They know they are highest up in any social ladder and therefor they act as if allowing lower creatures near them is politeness enough.
We gay guys deal with men, and men are just better to be around. They are smart and considerate and always polite and helpful.
I feel for you lesbians.
>>5610616
>I feel for you lesbians
thank
I'm female and I like females. That means boobs and cute faces.
I don't like "females" who look, sound and act exactly like men. What the fuck is the point of that? Just date a man if you're into that
>>5610616
>mfw I wish I was straight
>mfw I'm not attracted to men at all.
I get what you're saying, but life in gayland doesn't seem that good for men either (STDs, anal sex prep, 10 hrs a day at the gym for an average gay bod, tokenized and caricatured by society). Straight women seem like the only ones who have it easy.
I'm a femme who likes a femme.
I wouldn't date another femme. Just her. I'm going to kidnap her and smuggle her into Chile where we'd live together in a bunker and harvest organs for cocaine someday.
Also, I kinda have to wear lipstick because it's so damn dry in my region.
butches make me feel sick, even more so than men because it's like they are raping my eyes by being female and gaining my attention but then looking like men with mustaches who i wouldn't have looked at otherwise
>>5610797
When it comes to STD lesbians are least likely to get them out of all sexual groups.
Anal sex prep is sometimes a hassle, but believe me when i say there is no better feeling on this planet than being fucked deeply in the ass by a large hairy man while he reaches around and jerks you of with his strong manly hands, a couple of times i have passed out from the sheer sexual pleasure of that.
>>5607255
Same here. I'm super femme. Love makeup and only will wear Mac foundation. Its hard finding other femmes out there. Most my exes were chapsticks.
>>5610823
Same here. Are you single?
>>5610942
Yes, but I just said I'm already in love with another femme.
>>5610214
transbian detected
>>5610893
I actually almost vomited twice while reading that post. I had to take antacids, and my mouth tastes like bile. I'm so glad I'm gay, that sounds awful.
Man, I have go-blind orgasms basically every time I have sex, and it can be spontaneous. I feel bad for gay men and all the hassle just for normal function.
>>5607171
You can be femme without looking like a straight girl. Get a side cut, get some queer looking tattoos, get some piecings, dye your hair weird colors, anything that flags that you're not just another straight girl. You gotta advertise your sexuality if you want other girls to pick up on it
>>5607171
Welcome to the world of masculine/normal-acting gay men.
I like my lesbians to look like normal women. If I can tell she's a lesbian from her face, clothes or hairstyle, she's doing it wrong. Rainbow wristband is acceptable for identification.
Dykes are so fucking gross. If I wanted to date a man, I'd just date a man.
>>5612791
I said this to my last gf and it so pissed the off Lol like those exact words. She was so gross. She started to wear these nasty collared shirts and started wearing guy underwear. It was disgusting! I wear pretty femme stuff and she wouldn't even wear makeup. I didn't understand the point of it all. It was weird though because she only wanted to be screwed with a strap on like the biggest ones. Eventually I told her that if I wanted to date a guy I would do so. So I ended it with her. Please lesbians, if you're going to be butch you might as well go all the way and be trans. Or else what is the point?
it's masc4masc all over again
>>5610704
me too
>>5610616
>always polite
HAW HAW
>>5607171
I'm femme I like feminine girls
>femme style
>butch personality
>>5613156
I'm glad you ended it with her. Now she's better off without such a huge, dumb bitch in her life. It's amazing how someone can be so judgemental and so uninformed at the same time.
>>5608001
Exactly. Their thought process begins and ends with "durr I feel good with it therefore it is good hurr"
>>5613940
Me too. She's a gay tranny now. Top kek though
>tfw butch with masculine face and hair
>tfw extremely short with huge boobs and curvy figure
>tfw kinky and dominant in bed
>tfw no cute submissive femme gf
Why live?
>>5615416
I'll be your femme gf
I'm a boy though
You're not alone, OP. But you probably live somewhere like I do, a Southern US city where LGBT aesthetics have yet to progress past 1992. It makes it bloody impossible to find anyone.
>>5607275
>"drop subtle hints in my appearance"
>having to keep it hidden
Yep. Putting my money on somewhere in the South.
>>5610704
Same.
>>5610797
Same.
>>5610831
Same.
>>5612505
Well I don't think it's doing it wrong, but I do agree that rainbow wristband is acceptable identification.
>>5615515
Actually I live in Miami. Super liberal place but y'know, I don't wanna have to wear a shirt that says "I'm a lesbian, ask me how" all the time.
>>5615680
Meh. I used to live in Florida. You all are Southerners too, even if you won't admit it.
>>5615686
>I used to live in Florida. You all are Southerners
Not really, most of Florida is snowbirding yankees, and Florida wasn't actually inhabited enough to count back when "the South" meant something.
The only thing southern about Florida is its geographical location. You may as well call Puerto Rico "southern".
>>5615719
>The only thing southern about Florida is its geographical location.
Someone hasn't been to north Florida.
>>5616157
>Someone hasn't been to north Florida.
Lived here for close to 30 years.
>>5616162
Maybe just different experiences then, since I got stuck in Pensacola, FL a few years back and it seemed like an offshoot of Alabama but with a beach.
Where in Florida are you?
>>5607214
>Nah. I mean, from your description you sound to me more femme than chapstick.
>>5607219
>anything more feminine than chapstick requires a lot of effort
Where does the distinction lie between chapstick and lipstick?
I have cute fashion, but I wouldn't call it "high effort" to wear boots, patterned leggings, short skirts, and cute sweaters. And I never wear makeup or jewelry.
What about the inverse? A girl who only wears baggy jeans, tshirts, and sneakers, but does wear some makeup?
>>5615437
A-Anon... no...
>>5610214
nice try TIDF
>>5611449
>side cut
>femme
>in fact, any of the whole dyke uniform
>femme
You and I have been huffing different brands of glue.
>>5616393
I feel like that distinction is usually like, well, porn. "I know it when I see it."
>>5616401
yep that's usually the response I get
>>5616672
Can you give me an example of a chapstick lesbian then? What do I sound like to you?
Is there like a half step above Chapstick but below lipstick lesbian? Because I feel like that's where I'm hovering. I wear very light makeup because I'm mostly too lazy/incompetent to learn how to properly wing eyeliner. I do love figuring out new ways to do updos though and spend a lot of time on my hair.
>>5616815
>Is there like a half step above Chapstick but below lipstick lesbian?
yeah it's called quit worrying about this garbage
people change, you will change, just find the thing you want to fuck and fuck it. your relationship does not need to be tumblr approved™
>>5616862
But what is chapstick?
>>5617304
Some fake-ass label that internet people made up
I think a more important question here is: why do you give a shit?
>>5617339
Because slang interests me.
I don't define myself by these terms.
>>5617438
Ill help you. Chapstick lez is a lez that only wears minimal makeup, usually not mac or sephora, and their outfits are feminine but not fashionable. They also don't out a lot of effort in their hair.
A lipstick will wear name brand makeup and look quite fashionable. She will look like a straight girl so you wouldn't guess she was gay.
>>5610823
FUCK
Im lipstick lesbian in Chile ;^]
>>5613929
THIS! ! !
>>5618758
You could date me. I'm a lipstick from the states.
>>5617898
Is that really a read for lesbian though? I know tons of straight girls who look like that.
Or should I be hitting on makeupless girls more? Maybe they're bi?
I know at least three who are painfully straight. Zero homoflexibility.
allright, I'm pretty chapstick. What do I need to do to upgrade to lipstick? Is it just wearing more makeup? are feminine clothes important or is it more do to with makeup?
also, what do you girls think of /fit/ girls?
>>5618929
Fit girls are 10/10
>>5618881
Okay
>>5619134
Are we married now?
>>5619152
Not legal here
Just civil union
>>5619194
Okay that will work. So are you a dominant or a submissive?
>>5619242
I dont care at all
I enjoy both
>>5607171
You're not alone, op
