Is it still agp if I imagine myself as a preteen boy who is forced to crossdress and then gets used like a whore?
Yes, sry bud, and there isn't really much you can do about it. Go see a therapist and see how far your fetish takes you down the rabbit hole
I can't believe this is a big issue for some people. I just feel kind of guilty for how gay the fantasy is, but its not like its driving me insane or anything, get me away from a laptop and I'm fine.
>>5603262
I want to be a politician and this is career ending shit
>>5603368
Not really. You can even crossdress openly and still be a successful politician, just make sure you say it was just a prank.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IrE6FMpai8
>>5603368
True that. Having any kind of severe paraphilia is carreer ending shit. Be glad you're not a pedophile, who has to repress their urges for as long as they love, or face severe legal actions. You're a serious hypersexual pervert, like almost all trannys, and myself, but it's not really hurting anyone but yourself and your own psyche, which is slowly collapsing on itself. You probably won't be able to ever live a normal life and you'll have a terrible mid-life chrisis when you realize that all of your time was wasted on how you would spend your gender transition, because your attraction was directed inward instead of outward. You'll also likely never be able to find love like a heterosexual or a homosexual would be able to, because again, though you're attracted to women, your AGP will compete with your heterosexuality and cause you to be jealous of the women you decide to spend your time with. With all of that being said, good luck in your future endeavors. I find living a life of seclusion to be most relaxing for me. Pick up a video game, some kind of hobby, an expertise, or something, and watch the years of your life go by like unfinished chapters in a book. Only death will bring you relief when you're at rhe point of being on LGBT. Self love can only bring tradgedy.
>>5603368
Not if you embrace it, you'll be looked at as oh so brave. Nowadays it would only work against you if you tried to hide it.
>>5603192
No. Men with AGP want to be women. You have a submissive crossdressing fetish and sound like a pederast, but that isn't AGP. This board uses AGP in a way unrelated to its intended meaning, as a meme with which to bludgeon others.
>>5603477
It is no meme. xD Why would someone become aroused by crossdressing? Just because? The man who coined the term AGP did it to pathogolize trans people, yes, but the term in itself is not wrong. It's like a homosexual being insulted by me calling them a homosexual. It is quite literally "self love as a woman".
>>5603425
>Politician
>Facing legal actions for Paedophilia
>>5603425
I'm not a tranny
>>5603529
I think he's saying that if they acted out on their urges, they would face legal actions, and as an AGP person you are no forbade by law to act out on your sexuality, so we're lucky in the regard that we have no need to repress ourselves.
>>5603535
You will be, hun. This is where it all begins, as a simple, little kink that you just decide to jerk off to one day
>>5603559
No
I'm not attracted to women either
>>5603368
How many years are you from being able to campaign, realistically, if you were normal? What, specifically, is career ending? Becoming a politician publicly known to be a trans woman? What offices do you hope to occupy over your career? From all the offices I can think of: freeholder, mayor, councilman, senator, assemblyman, representative, governor, and president, (do tax collector and county controller/comptroller(?) count?), whether or not this is career ending depends on your constituents and how you choose to handle it. If you keep it secret, or even just not mention it, it will be used against you in smear campaigns. Which is bad if people are not that liberal in your district. But you can still be respected in a conservative district, assuming the public knows who and what you are. You will just have to make it part of your political persona and really hit the pavement. You will also need a husband and children if you want to go up high, in order to be relatable to families. I remember something being said about Bernie Sanders by a farmer in Vermont. My memory is failing me tremendously right now, but it went something like, "I don't trust gun grabbers/socialists, but I know Bernie, and he's a good guy." Have the image of a respectable family woman with a good heart, and you'll make it, brah. The hard part is getting that image, since you are probably old enough to transition into a hon.
Also, does this post trigger your AGP even more?
>>5603507
AGP is real yeah, but a crossdressing fetish by itself isn't AGP. Did everyone just forget the part where you have to fantasize about being a woman? OP is just a fag with an emasculation fetish. Its almost like nobody who uses the term understands what it means. Hence the meme status.
>>5604027
Did you know that most trannys see the emasculation in their fantasies as being a woman, or "repressing" their feminine side in humiliating fantasies?
>>5604027
there's like 4 different types of AGP. Anatomic, behavioural, transvestic (where you get off to crossdressing), and physiologic. So atleast following blanchard's deffinition this nigga'd be AGP. However ma nigga blanchard did point out that most AGPers that eventually became trans were the Anatomic and Physiologic ones rather than the cdssers and behavioural ones; so there's deffo a stronger link there
>>5604038
Only because society has conditioned them to think submissive = woman. Its literally just gender roles. Nothing about what OP said indicates that he's gynephilic or has AGP fantsies. This is why AGP is flawed. Not because it doesn't exist, but because it has to make up an increasing number of subtypes in order to explain away inconvenient data. Its not hard to see why it isn't taken super seriously, but thats entirely the fault of its creators, not its detractors who have rightly called out the portions of it that are bullshit. I mean this is a theory that believes literal ASEXUALS experience a paraphilic attraction to themselves.
>>5603650
I did ask you how being AGP could end your career. How are you AGP if you do not have arousal to imagining yourself as a woman? If you're not a tranny, and you have no plans to transition, what on earth do you have to fear about this ending a political career?
>>5604244
Spoiler: Because he knows he's aroused by imagining himself as a woman
>>5603507
There's a lot of trans people for whom being a woman is necessary to experience arousal, but it is not by itself the cause of arousal, and those people are often incorrectly labeled as AGP. And any trans woman who admits being sexually attracted to women is automatically labeled AGP whether she shows actual signs of the fetish or not. AGP is a real thing, but the term is thrown around as an insult to the point at which it's lost all meaning.
>>5604302
I think that's fair, but it seems like fetishists also drag my identity down with them. Like, so many fetishists I see come to identify as women because of HEAVILY and I cannot stress this enough, HEAVILY masochistic pornography, depicting males forced to wear dresses and take on the female role in some way, shape or form. I don't think I've ever seen one of these people aroused by say a slash, yaoi, or romance novel. It's like they're hypersexualizing women and turning it inward. I get that they can identify as what they please, but geez.
>>5603192
You sound like a gold mine for a psychotherapist.
>>5607861
I may or may not have been diddled as a kid
>>5607974
Why the uncertainty?
>>5607982
I can't remember anything but I fit every single warning sign of a molested child
>>5607982
They're trying to figure out where to take the narrative.
>>5607995
Antisocial behavior, extremely early sexuality, poor social skills, a tendency to cling to adult men for security
>>5608005
When did you think this molestation might have occurred? Pre-verbal?
>>5608025
Probably around then
>>5608044
Who do you think did it? My father keeps thinking I was molested even though I only have two of these warning signs and I don't think I have ever been molested. >>5608005 And I know I was like that only because of dysphoria. He pulls some bullshit about a person I hung out with as a child being trans, and two of the children of the woman who babysat me being miscreants.
>>5608192
probably has some link to escapism
>>5608192
>be a naive kid on 4chan /b/
>constantly subjected to all sorts of porn and weird fetish shit
>reading adult anons perverted fantasies
>if you posted people probably called you a faggot and destroyed your self esteem
maybe similar
>>5608202
>tfw avoiding everything
>>5608220
>tfw you can only go to /d/ for lewd thoughts
>tfw no self-esteem
This place may have fucked me up.
>>5608119
I'm >>5608170. I started browsing 4chan at 18 because I believed the "le epic hacker site" shit. I might have come earlier if my browser didn't warn me the site was filled with viruses the one other time I did try. I don't know how old I was then. I spent a lot of time on the computer, mostly flash games on Miniclip as a child until 8-ish when my parents scared me about it. I hated the research projects I was given during that time because I had such an anxiety over that and plagiarism and copyright lawsuits. That was until I started playing RS again because of some classmates a few weeks before turning 14.
When I wrote a very negative self-evaluation for a school administrator, he actually asked me if I had been molested. He told me people who were sexually abused as children talk about themselves that way. Which surprised me. It's just not accurate.
I was a coward all of my childhood and adolescence, but like I said, I have no reason to think I was diddled.
>>5608170
I first started browsing 4chan in 2007, I was 24 then and had been on the net since 1997. I don't think it's just 4chan, I saw a lot of stuff I probably shouldn't have seen as well.
