Staring into darkness because I cant sleep edition
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▶infographs suck for makeup
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I just want to be a girl
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Previous thread >>5578505
First for nocturnal
>>5579921
>cringe
I guess I would too if it wasn't me
sorry I'm so silly lol
First for failed transitions!
>>5579929
Me on the left
>>5579929
>First for failed transitions!
finally a thread for me
>>5579929
>failed
>still better than I'd come up with
>>5579929
count me in t b h ....
Can't say my transition failed, it's going quite well. It's a bit sad that it's the only thing about my life that isn't thoroughly fucked up, though.
>>5579934
still think you should go to your reunion in a dress and nice hair + makeup
>>5579927
>sorry im so silly
well why dont you fucking..... quit.... then... ?
>tfw i know some of you are posting in my thread on r9k right now
>>5579947
My shoulders are too wide for dresses tho desu
>>5579950
Kayla pls
>>5579948
quit what senpai
how abt we stop shitposting together and go cuddle and watch anime ^ _ ^
>>5579949
WHAT THREAD
>>5579949
>doesn't post link
Post the trip you hope gets stoned to death.
someone should find this pic here useful
>>5579950
>jörmo will never play with your train set
>>5579956
All cisposters.
>>5579953
Pls kayla actually wears dresses
>>5579920
HI evert body! My name is Tanisha I'm a new a gurrl on teh block ans I'm hoping you gals cans shows me a ting two about being a womynz and how to make my black ancestors proud. Thx. Bai.
>>5579956
that's a lot of weed
>>5579956
Anon
>>5579962
korra?
>>5579962
Fuck off korra
>>5579956
Kit.
>>5579956
>lizbell
>maybe caterpoller too
>>5579958
>tfw own train sim and ~15 dlc
I'll toot toot with u any day anon ;)
>>5579961
u could pull one off if u wanted
>>5579961
Post a pic of you in a dress and let the public decide
>>5579972
>ywn pull off jormys dress and play with her soft body
>>5579950
Are you gonna go tho?
Do I win? My transition fails most huh?
>>5579989
give me a year honny
>>5579975
This is the only one I can find at the moment
>>5579987
I want to, I might chicken out on the day tho
I worry that Im just a transtrender. I mean I want to be a girl. I really always have. I just never really started thinking about it much until the past year or so. But what about all those years secretly cross dressing... what am I.
>>5579970
That sounds hot. Can you toot toot my butte jörmo?
>>5579995
You're cute and can totally wear dresses.
>>5579954
you as a person confound me
why dont you quit self loathing
>>5579995
Don't wear an off the shoulder dress and you're golden
>>5579995
Jormy its late and I cant sleep and you're a slut. Give me a fresh new voice recording of you doing an awoo.
>>5579995
Your shoulders don't look to big. What's their width?
You could probably pull off a dress, unless that's not your thing.
>>5580001
>you as a person confound me
how come o-o
>self loathing
Yeah I've been doing this a lot the past couple days
I upped my E dose and think I'm going a LITTLE crazy so I apologize.
>>5579985
whoa wacky thread especially that anon that gave huggge replies trying to give kind of weird advice
>>5579996
Probably trans desu !
>>5579995
Have you come out to your family yet?
>>5579995
why is your waist so thick?
>>5579996
don't worry about it desu just transition anyway
Alright, I know I have to shave for a full laser session, but what about the patch test? Should I just shave a small area of the neck or something? And should it be a close razor shave or will just trimming it real short do? Or does shaving not matter for patch test?
>>5579929
I can relate to that
if i have to pee again tonight ill literally die
also having a girl haircut in boymode is awkward
>>5580013
>>5580021
every1 just thinks ur a girl anways t b h
>>5580021
put on makeup as they are doing it
>>5580022
>>5579995
>sailor jormy
not train driver jormy ;~;
>>5580026
Anon has a point
>>5580010
>how come
youre so contradictory
your attitude, your logic, your reaction to people calling you shitty for being raped? its so fucking baffling
im very concerned for your mental health and puzzled beyond belief, how someone could feel the way you do
like, fuck. people are fucking insane
>>5579999
I'll send my train down ur tunnel :3
>>5580000
They make me feel like a gross hon tho ;~;
>>5580003
Ok I'll wear a plaid shirt
>>5580004
Do not sexualise the awoo!
>>5580005
16 inches
>>5580012
N-no
>>5580013
The dress is too big, I was worried about it being too small so I bought a huge one
>>5580028
S-sorry anon
>>5580026
>>5580033
You're not in the slightest tho
How to deal with being a gross hon
>>5580037
luckily you don't need to know because you're not one
>>5580037
Angie pls
>>5580037
just be an ugly girl
>>5580032
idk I thought my reaction was pretty ordinary for that
I really don't understand myself at ALL so this is kinda helpful to me thanks
>people are fucking insane
yeh I prolly am t b h
I'm curious what my attitude and logic and stuff is tho !!
>>5580027
Just tell him u wanted to copy me then come glomp me ^ _ ^
>>5580029
m-meyb
>>5580037
lmk when u find out ok I need advice
>>5580037
Stop being so crazy and let your inner beauty shine.
>>5580044
What if you're even uglier on the inside than on the outside? I know I am...
>>5580030
>>5580034
>there are anons who haven't filtered me
>>5580043
i dont know what to make of you
why do you keep this cutesy anime bullshit persona up
doesnt it make you feel bad to know people think youre a whore after seeing so many pics of you? just how do you live with so many things to be ashamed of?
>>5580045
but I'm not a hon yet, just gross. I don't have all the answers
>>5580045
I'm an expert? What are you trying to imply?
>>5580051
He's implying that all of you are hons. Which is patently untrue in your case because you aren't even on hormones yet.
>>5580051
You didn't get it? I know you want to become a woman but you didn't have to get rid of your male intelligence.
>>5580050
You'll never be a hon you shit
>>5580052
>those man shoulders
>that anvil jaw
>those catchers mitts for hands
>that shapeless dadbod
>no ass
nice try hon
>>5580039
>>5580041
>>5580043
>>5580044
>16" shoulders
>0.76 whr
>big hands
>have to wear mediums
>no hips
>huge masculine jawline
Pic related, my skull looks as masculine as this skull and that sucks
>>5580053
>Le tripfag circlejerk sekrit clup XD
>>5580052
That jaw is like something out of an 80s action movie
>>5580052
Is this what you looked like before?
>>5580065
That name pls
You're going to pass great.
>>5580055
I'll be what I wanna do and your witnessed doubles won't stop me
>>5580063
Uh......masculine is ugly or did you not get the memo?
>>5580045
Idk t b h I don't deal w/ it well
>>5580049
>why do you keep this cutesy anime bullshit persona up
I don't really think it's a persona it's kind of just how I act o-o
before I came here I typed a lot more fem w/ more emotes (I know, that's hard to do)
>doesnt it make you feel bad to know people think youre a whore after seeing so many pics of you?
Yeh, little bit. The people I really care about and cherish as friends don't care I made a dumb mistake though
>just how do you live with so many things to be ashamed of?
By keeping up this "cutesy anime persona" and trying to make others happy.
My life is a worthless mess and if I can give someone nice advice or make them smile or something before I kmy then I at least have that to cope with
T-thanks anon
>>5580065
Biology disagrees
>>5580059
>>5580062
I think you guys are missing the point.
>>5580065
Great name.
>>5580066
Sarahon.
CFHon.
Hoonkie.
I slept last night, but I'm no more rested
I tripped on a door frame and fell a moment ago
>>5580070
>le lazy irresponsible tranny who gets validation from a chinese drag queen board
>>5580072
What point?
The girl in that webm doesn't pass
>>5580072
I doubt those shoulders would fit through most doorways. Look at those steroided basketballs.
meme
>>5580078
>meme
>>5580075
The point that he came in just to gather cheap compliments and wasn't looking for any kind of sincere interaction.
Don't worry anon, when rope day comes... This'll all be over.
how to deal with wanting to hurt myself because I will never be a cis girl?
>>5580049
>just how do you live with so many things to be ashamed of?
It's easy when no one knows what you're ashamed of
>>5580078
>le mad honposting
So we can all agree that skull is masculine, right?
>>5580082
Do it faggot
>>5580075
The point being that you can't apply tranny standards to real girls. They are qualitatively different category.
>>5580076
Damn hons cluttering the instagram.
>>5580083
A whore of your caliber wouldn't be ashamed of being a one and that makes me wonder what is bad enough that you would feel shame like a normal human being. Did you sell your little brothers anal virginity for a crack rock or something?
>>5580082
Maybe hit the gym?
>>5580089
Yeah you can
>>5580089
>They are qualitatively different category.
In layman's terms:
The quality of cis girl beauty is here
and trannies is here
>>5580091
Don't be ridiculous, I don't have a younger brother
>>5580070
>worthless mess
I know life's been so far from good, but it's not that, you have a lot of time ahead of you and I'll be here, okay? I don't really think most people can have some kind of totally ideal life
but it'll definitely be worth it.
Get some good rest bebby, go easy on yourself tomorrow
night night for real now, love you to bits
>>5580082
Find something to take your mind off it
Maybe go for a walk
hey /mtfg/ on a scale of 1-10 how suicidal is it to go swimming pre-op? like will it be fine or will everyone point and laugh at me?
>>5580096
Oh, my bad. I haven't delved into tripfag lore.
>>5580099
tuck properly and you should be fine
>>5580099
People don't point and laugh. They are unnerved and quietly disgusted. The complaints are voiced in private with the staff.
>>5580099
Depending on the pool you go to, they might drown you
>>5580097
>le if you need to talk I'm here meme
>>5580106
If you want to deny biology, good luck with that
>>5580106
I tried to add like a 50 empty lines but I forgot that the messages get formatted automatically
Night /mtfg/ I hope to be 2d by sunrise
anons keep it real af
tell me to kill myself
if you don't I might get discouraged !!
<3 ~ <3
>>5580084
>abluu-bloo-bluu
>>5580080
it's true t b h
>>5580097
t-thanks
love you
<3
>>5580099
depends how well u pass and tuck
>>5580107
my fav meme xd
>>5580099
you'll get beaten up by angry dads protecting their kids and be put on the sex offenders' register
>>5580100
No matter
>>5580111
Good night, Pookie.
You're great and I like u.
>>5580108
>If you want to deny biology, good luck with that
You do realize that this general exists for people who live in denial of their biology and for their futile attempts to change it?
when people say "fake it til you make it" how do they get past the "trying to fake it but just breaking down in tears and failing instead" phase?
>>5580115
Exactly
You're catching on now
>>5580116
Usually they kill themselves and that solves a number of problems for them and for society.
>>5580116
That saying was never meant for trannies.
>>5580121
Please let that be a man...
Is what /fit/ would say
>>5580116
when you learn to be an adult anon you learn to just fucking do something, even if you hate it and dont want to do it, you just fucking do it
it's like like, you calm down and dry your tears and just do it
>>5580122
>>5580127
There are traps and fems regularly lurking and posting on /fit/ because that's the only board that truly has a boner for them
>>5580127
why the fuck does he get hips like that and I dont
reeeeeeeeee
>>5580131
In all honesty they are awfully annoying. Plus /fit being as insecure as they are, traps are seen as a bit more approachable compared to actual girls (whoa re scary).
>>5580132
because god is actually a real cruel cunt and gives cis boys girlish figures and structure and makes gorillas and he-men into trans
>>5580132
because existence is unfair and cruel
stuff like this is why I support voluntary extinction of our species
>>5580115
Look at that skull I posted earlier, despite it being a female skull, it's extremely masculine
>>5580135
>In all honesty they are awfully annoying.
I think that comes with the territory of trying to be like a girl.
>>5580139
I don't really know what you're getting at, but skulls don't have that many gender-specific features, only different proportions and whatnot. There's this one MtF I know who looked like skeletor before transitioning and now he looks like skeletor with make-up.
>>5580137
Then why haven't you killed yourself yet? Or are you just being an edgy teenybopper cunt?
>>5580147
soon
>>5580149
chop chop
>>5580140
They should try harder.
>>5580184
He's just a loser. While common among them, it's not a requirement for being a tranny.
>>5580190
Skip to the end after she shows him his face in the mirror. I have never seen a more >tfw no pass face in my life.
>>5580202
and no one at all in the comments even considers his face at the end
they just go 'omg his reaction to makeup lol!'
>>5580202
He got a bitter wake up call that reality isn't like his animes but he isn't trans.
>>5580202
It looked more like "what am I doing with my life" kind of face. He wanted to be an astronaut or a pilot as a kid and now he's getting make-up by his ugly girlfriend on Youtube.
>>5580231
That's because he's a loser. The grass is always greener on the other side and all that jazz. Probably the reason there are so many transbians in IT.
>>5580231
Plenty of guys say and do dumb shit that doesn't mean they're fucking trans.
>>5580235
Most of the losers are insecure gay men. Real transbians are people like Ufufu.
>>5580246
I don't like greentexting but it's appropriate now.
>Ufufu
>real transbian
Good morning everyone.
I am awful at haikus.
Angie is gorgeous.
( ﾟ∀ﾟ)人(ﾟ∀ﾟ )
alright now with my autism out of my system how is everyone doing? anyone have a nice dream lately?
>>5580252
Everyone gets caught up in the endless roleplay and sexting fantasies on here because they're all a little bi anyway. It doesn't mean shit.
>>5580253
>anyone have a nice dream lately?
I had that recurring nightmare where I wake up
Time to sleep and wish again I don't wake up, night mtfg
>>5580264
pls don't say that. (
>>5580260
Lately the erp-ing has really gotten out of hand.
>>5580276
lf qt to erp with
>>5580275
tripfu a silly. well i'm glad you didnt choke on it or anything. how was sleep bb?
how do i become not trans. like CBT or some sort of drug or something i can do.
i really want to be okay with being a man esp if HRT will be useless for me
>>5580288
through the power of prayer ANYTHING is possible!*
*(results may vary)
>>5580288
aversion therapy and electroshock im sure you can find a camp somewhere to help you find truth through god
>>5580288
Pimozide apparently but the subject had pre-existing mental conditions and I'm too lazy to register in order to read the entire journal
>>5580282
Bad. If you ever stay with me you'll learn quick that I'm anvannoying sleeper. I dont snore or anything but i sleep in the skinny and i need to have some form of comedy playing while i sleep or i have nightmares. Well i fell asleep without putting anything on last night.
>>5580278
No it's not.
>>5580288
You just have to man up anon. Unlike the rest of this general, I might add.
>>5580302
aw. i used to need a movie to sleep too during highschool. i've seen inception like 200 times because of it. i don't think ihave many sleeping quirks. i guess i can only sleep on my side. i also put my pillow on my arm and rest my head on my arm.
>>5580310
I sleep on my stomach, no pillow.
>>5580313
That makes my boobs hurt
>>5580313
hm. i've never known anyone that does that. i guess you're lucky though, sleeping on my side used to always make my ex think i wanted to spoon even if i wasn't in the mood.
Just got a very unsuccessful answer from the thread i just made but
How do i shrink an average penis without hrt? My penis gives me dysphoria and when I get erect it is worse.
>>5580322
Go on HRT
Use a knife
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CatSUg0KyAM
Reminded me of this place.
>>5580319
>not wanting to spoon all the time
>>5580306
kek
>>5580328
You're my kinda person
>>5580326
i guess it explains how you didn't choke on gum though. what's your stance on waking up other people in the morning? i always feel like an asshole when i sleep in, i feel like i'm wasting the others persons time when they have to sit there waiting for me.
>>5580328
if you treat me like utter shit and don't even apologize, don't expect to lay a finger on me unless you want it broken. i mean it was rare but still.
>>5580329
)
>>5580288
>how do i become not trans.
You can't. You don't have to transition, but you're basically down to coping strategies if you really intend not to transition in some way. Is HRT not going to help you?
>>5580326
no wonder im flat
>>5580324
Cool more unhelpful answers
>>5580341
ask a GP.
>>5580341
There isn't a penis shrinking pill that isnt hrt, sorry.
>>5580322
You could get an orchi. Should substantially reduce T such that erections are less likely to happen spontaneously. That should eventually make your penis smaller.
The people over on /d/ suggest that keeping yourself in chastity for extended periods might also help.
So, they put a lock on the main door of the womens locker room that locks on the inside.
I only share it with one girl and desu, shes been drunk in her undies in my bed before so no big deal.
However, the male admins saw it necessary to put the lock on and, as far as i can tell, transphobia is at play, like they think im trying to see all the girlies giblets while anyone is changing.
Hell, i walked in on my friend once when she just had on undies and a big t shirt. She squeeled, but only because she didnt know who it was. Afterwards, i rolled my eyes and walked past her to pee. Non issue.
So, wtf,.... should i press this topic with the butthurt middle aged white men?
>>5580334
I dont really care at all. When i wake up is pretty random and if others arent up when i am, I'm gonna try and be nice, but i'm not stopping my life so someone else can snooze.
>>5580351
How do you know the girls haven't requested the lock?
>>5580351
>She squeeled, but only because she didnt know who it was
because clearly you give off that man vibe
>>5580337
I am 20 and masculine as anyone else. It would be pretty disgusting seeing me trying to be a girl.
Yeah I tried coping strategies and that led to an addiction and suicide attempt.
Just wishing there was some way to literally erase these thoughts and feels from my mind.
>>5580355
well please wake me up whenever you wake up. i legitimately got into an argument because my friend was like 'hey we need to go out tomorrow' and i said 'okay, just wake me up in the morning so we can go.' but instead she just lets me sleep in until like 4PM then gives me the silent treatment and fullblown yells at me when i ask her what's wrong. like, how the fuck is that on me?
>>5580288
there's a certain kind of CBT used to cure dysphoria, if by CBT you mean Cock and Ball Torture...
it's called Suporn
>>5580371
:')
>>5580360
I'm pretty much the same but 25, as everything in the brain is governed by chemicals there's probably a way to suppress that part of the brain that causes transgenderism.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8839957 this carries little weight because it wasn't tested again but you could always try and debate the use of that anti schizo med to a psyche and see for yourself
>>5580360
Then you're down to transition. Sorry. The good news is you, like most 20 year olds, are probably going to do just fine with transitioning. Unless not being pretty is a cause for suicide, since passing as a pretty girl is much harder than passing.
>>5580371
Eyyy Rumy.
>>5580380
hi m8, hows life?
>>5580322
use some device to prevent all erections, that should make you impotent and then smaller
>>5580361
Yea i dont really get angry at people like that. Irl i actually am like, the person in the group who adjusts to everyone else usually.
>>5580381
It's crunch time Rumy. No more funposting, eating like a pig or playing vidya.
>>5580392
well you can probably already tell how much of a doormat i am.
>>5580393
wuh?? im playing vidya rn so
I'm so sick of erping in mtfg
>>5580395
Yea its pretty fun so far
*walks all over you*
>>5580397
I have some certification coming up that needs to be done as fast as possible. Otherwise I would be playing Dankest Dungeon. Real life won't let me neet.
>>5580409
Well get on with it then!
>tfw day off work today
>>5580407
muh dick etc etc. i don't know, i'd rather try to be accomodating to others wishes since i am pretty tame in general. i like being comfy and spending time with people i care about.
>>5580413
Thank you for the encouragement. Enjoy your day off.
>>5580409
My near future doesn't make me happy, nothing can, but it would make anyone normal pretty happy. Getting retired at 41 with a pension in the highest earning decile is pretty good. I might even play some video games. Probably waste a lot of time playing the Sims or chatting in a random MMO...
>>5580366
*update*
Shes just as confused as i am about the lock.
Ill ask maintenance and post with difinitive transphobic reasoning for it if that happens to be the case
I
Good morning everyone. Hope you all have a great day. I'm using my last day off from school to play undertale. What are you doing?
>>5580430
Playing manly games like cs:go and drinking copious amounts of coffee, its breddy gud tbhon
>>5580430
I just got home. on wednesdays i spend half a day at a wildlife reserve doing grounds maintenance with a bunch of other mentally ill people.
have a good day :)
sorry to inform you all but sheen passed away this morning
the cause of death was being overwhelmingly fat
I'm sorry
>>5580432
I seriously miss real coffee. They'll only let us have root chicory since all non-prescribed psychoactive substances except tobacco are banned since this is a rehab clinic. And I stopped tobacco since I'm getting SRS soon, so...
>>5580443
epic, every day until we believe it?
>>5580457
i don ' t talk. trash voice. i dont think ive ever worn a shirt inside out.
still not seeing any erp
>>5580457
by "good company", i have the pleasure of spending time with a schizophrenic 6'6 forest troll with an amish beard who is absolutely adamant that his "device" made out of twisted wire in the shape of an ankh, "powered" by the heat of his cigarette stub, generates enough charge to ionize the sky and clear the clouds.
i had lentil curry for lunch. it was nice. it is always nice.
>>5580460
Almost starved myself to death following occupational burnout. I asked to be sent here instead of a public psychiatric hospital when I was at the ER. That was nine months ago. But the food isn't too bad and my room is larger and more comfortable than most hotel rooms, so I won't complain.
>>5580465
thats not erp. theres no one fucking going *sucks your dick* in this thread.
>>5580479
oh i see, well i hope you get better soon ;_;
>>5580464
A-anon I... >////////<
>>5580430
Getting ready to drive out to the desert and shoot myself
>>5580496
:3
anime is cancer of the mind.
>>5580495
Oh, I'm not going to get better. The melancholic depression and PTSD are here to stay and are getting me closer to a sizeable disability pension everyday. And in the meanwhile, I'll be seeing Chett in May for SRS and a bit of FFS...
>>5580496
*sucks your toes*
>>5580496
i still want to eat you out then make out while missionary fucking you
>>5580507
I liked anime when I was a kid, but I can't really see myself watching that now...
>>5580499
K
E
K
Which desert?
Im at a shooting range atm its gr8 (not fer suicide tho). You could just go to one and rent a gun.
>>5580507
no it isn't. the youtube/tumblr sjw community is.
anime is the alpha particle of mind cancer. laci green is the gamma ray of mind cancer.
>tfw boobs are starting to look like boobs
my gt is diamonds
>>5580538
anime was rotting the weak-willed before tumblr even existed.
tfw just want to sleep forever
>>5580461
We don't need to voice chat, anon. Haha that's funny though.. neither have i...
>>5580473
Sounds kinda fun desu. Think of them as a character not someone you have to put up with! My coworkers are all boring as frick. This redneck high schooler surprised me the other day though when he started defending lgbt rights. I think everyone just thinks im gay. What a surprise they're in for.
>>5580499
Dont joke about that.
>>5580541
Lewdd
>>5580551
>tfw kiwi won't sleep forever
>tfw david is here shitposting
>hanging out with best friend last night because i hate my parents and didn't want to go home
>laughs are had at his expense for saying things that could be misconstrued as romantic interest
>it starts to get late and i mention that i should probably go home
>he starts talking about how i don't need to go home at all, that i could just stay with him
>i bring up reasons that wouldn't work, logistically
>he agrees, but says i belong with him anyway
i am super confused and i didn't have any comeback because i just realized what happened
fuck
>>5580551
don't worry, there will be plenty of time to sleep forever once you die of natural causes in your old age.
in the grand scheme of things, life is barely a blink of an eye. don't be in a rush to leave so soon. but if you do, make a huge fucking mess. trespass on government property and spill your guts everywhere while screaming your manifesto.
>>5580554
i mean the thing is after several months, the novelty kinda wears off and it's just par for the course.
>This redneck high schooler surprised me the other day though when he started defending lgbt rights.
that's good!
>>5580502
Morning Eva Braun :3
>>5580514
S-stop I'm ticklish ;~;
>>5580521
>tfw noone to do this rn
>by that I mean like right now
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