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ded thred >>5539883
first for men are gods and i want their dicks inside me
>>5541502
Can hardly drink anymore. Maybe I should invest in brownies?
My therapist told in my last visit that she was going to start writing up a template for a letter of recommendation for hormones. Pretty excited about that, I guess.
>>5541513
It's the dicks that are the gods desu, men are merely the vessel.
>>5541502
Ohhhhhh mtfg don't you dare be sourah
>>5541502
post eyes
>tfw green eye masterrace
>>5541513
>men are gods
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>5541495
it's a /fit/ joke because most of them are insecure about their height
>>5541513
Um, I iktf with the later part.
Apathy edition?
More like get off my lawn edition.
Oldfag checking in.
>>5541497
>tfw 179cm
>tfw getting hugged by a person one head taller
I just really want to cuddle and have someone validate my existence tonight desu
>>5541517
I don't think i'm silly though.
>tfw need ffs
>>5541529
>tfw only ever been hugged by femlets
kill me
>>5541531
you should get kit to come make you cocktails and listen to your troubles behind a cozy bar
>>5541522
My naturally long eye lashes are like the only good feature I have going for me tbhon.
>>5541512
>implying my ex was a chaser
>implying he was more than an inch shorter than me or manlet height
I can't explain why chasers are invariably manlets, I don't have much experience with them. ;~;
>>5541528
How old are you, 35N-chan
>>5541533
>kill me
me first
>>5541535
Kit seems like a super nice person and that sounds pleasant
>>5541531
I O U - 1 hug, redeemable March 2016
>>5541522
blue gray-ish bad tier here
>>5541522
>>5541544
Forgot pic
>>5541540
35S not November.
Yeesh In retrospect I kind of wish I was a November. Their promotion points were fucking low. I could have been a Sergeant First class by the time I got out.
Also, 30. I know that's not "old" in the grand scheme of things, but let's face it, I've been browsing this site for 12 years and I feel old sometimes. Especially when the kids on here these days are like 18-20.
>>5541503
you called me a hugboxer then literally went "muh archives" when i wanted to see you and form a valid opinion. like i get it you'd rather not post it but you cant pull the stalker meme on me. that's the rude part. i aint about that life. you are just fucking with me if you think im actively profiling anyone in these threads based on information and trivia that people show you when they post.
>>5541522
>tfw eyes of 40 year old father of 5
>>5541522
My eyes are some sort of grey-ish hazel.
tfw have eyes so brown they look solid black with eye bags of a cancer patient
>tfw you realize how manly your eyes are by looking at these pics
>>5541551
>nazi
I find that offensive
the correct term is National Socialist
>>5541554
>form a valid opinion
for what purpose, I don't need to know it, you could have just taken my word for it like anyone else instead of choosing to waste that time backtracking to learn what I say is true
>>5541552
a-are you in a box yet with the ice cream ?
>tfw no one to spoon with tonight
>>5541551
my eyes aren't aryan blue
theyre multiculturalism and such blue
>>5541552
>n o
I really can't have anything I guess ._.
>>5541571
Like Afghan blue? A lot of them have strange eyes
>Blonde and blue eyes
sieg heil
>>5541513
P O R T L A N D
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if your worried about around your eyes use this before bed, its amazing
>>5541581
I was under the assumption that anything like this was horseshit.
>>5541586
Nope, you can literally see it work in a week. I tried every other brand and this one actually does it.
>>5541522
>tfw not aryan
you tell me what color eet ees
>>5541551
It's just a good lighting and a close shot bringing out those colours. If you're more than a meter away they just look brown
>>5541522
>>5541513
Lewd...also yes
>>5541522
Hi
>>5541586
They never do as much as they say they do but they're not completely ineffective.
Though most people here probably have bags because of sleep deprivation which no amount of cream will fix.
>>5541589
What does it do? I need something to help with undereye circles. My eyes are gross and puffy.
>>5541594
you never answered my question about whether you're on hrt ._. i don't want to bug you tho if you don't want to talk about it
beady black eyes reporting in..
>>5541602
>Says qt
>Calls me a pleb
t-thanks?
>>5541602
At least we have souls. Unlike you ginger irish folk.
Isn't that why you can't get your picture taken?
>>5541602
>tfw your your Irish parent gave you blue eyes
>>5541609
are you not able to order online and self med? that's what i'm doing.
>>5541602
Blue eyes are pretty gud though
Should stop squinting as much so people can see them
Is it gay to be pre-op and have sex with another pre-op trans woman?
>tfw you will never even internet date a cute anon/trip
>>5541598
that's why makeup exists ^^
>>5541609
:\
>>5541619
double gay
>>5541522
master race of course
>>5541619
yeah but why would you care?
How do you research and find a suitable FFS surgeon? After a few days in Trans-help gen no one seems to have a clue.
>>5541571
Posting from a box rn tbhon
>>5541630
I seconded that request did it still not get answers? Pity...
>>5541633
>Irish
>Not ginger.
>tfw huge nose and huge caveman brow
;________________;
>>5541616
>not even on hormones
>still boy-mode 90% of the time.
>no makeup skill at all
>get called hot
Th-thanks.
>>5541637
>tfw liz is passable and I'm not
I knew it
>>5541622
Makeup is so much work thoooo ;~;
There's a couple mechanisms that cause dark circles and they all have different treatment methods. One of them is hollowness under the skin though which isn't really fixable outside of getting a plastic surgeon to inject them to fill. I can't really tell by the picture what's going on with yours.
>>5541630
I haven't found a good centralized resource for surgeons so it's kinda hard. The archives here are okay for finding pictures of people who have gone to different places that might help. Outside of that just a lot of googling.
>>5541637
>yeah but sometimes I wonder if I should even bother you know?
...not really. if you can't afford it i could understand, and that's a pity. as soon as i stopped suppressing and realised who i wanted to be, i ordered my own meds. i've experienced general mental healthcare in the NHS and it sucks balls, no way was i going through gender identity clinics and endocrinologists.
what is stopping you?
>>5541644
Caitlyn Jenner pls
>>5541644
lel get over yourself
>>5541607
i hate my ugly asian eyes too
>>5541522
>>5541522
They change color o.O
shit potato cam, but can still see effect
yay for anemia circles
concealer is love
>>5541657
>>5541656
For the record >>5541644 isn't me.
Idk, it just seems kind of weird, like some part of me still struggles to see myself as female, but I saw her as female very easily. Conversely, I've told a couple people about it who seem to consider me entirely female and were probably imagining me as just fucking some burly dude in a skirt.
>>5541634
aa-aawww
when shud i expect the delivery to be <:
>>5541663
they do ? they look pretty though
also teach me how to make-up, pretty pleease
>>5541658
qt big eyes, also nice lashes *-*
>>5541622
When you apply your mascara you are making your lashes touch and look weird, roll the brush more as you put it on and then use your finger to curl them up.
>>5541668
It is the will of anon you can't argue
>>5541609
yeah but the honposting was the whole reason i wanted to see in the first place, because "im ugly hon xd" is USUALLY just a meme. so of course i want to see if you're being a memequeen. because it's kind of just a way of life. anyways sry i guess????
>>5541672
Yeah mine change between blue and green. I'd be happy to help with makeup though! I've been doing a lot with my routine lately. For a while I was doing too bold of a look so I started focusing on eyes and reducing what I did elsewhere, it's been working great! Symphonia32 is my skype if you have questions or anything :D I can show you my trick for holding the eyeliner pen too,but not posting those pics here lol. I was in fuck the world mode during those pics.
>>5541638
????????????
>>5541607
>>5541658
iktf im asia too
>>5541678
I'm glad this was a rich learning experience
>>5541666
I'm going to be mtfg's first Asian hon :^)
;_;
>>5541684
i can't formulate my words for shit right now im going to be real. but yeah don't call me a stalker, pls. i already have enough titles to live up to i can't burden anymore unless they served to inflate my ego.
I'm bored, what's going on ?
>>5541682
Just let me make my old lady jokes without trying to analyze them ya damn Paddy. It's what you do, it's a way of endearing yourself to each other. For example, if you called me a damn braut I'd happily reply in kind. It's how ya greet people you like.
>>5541666
>tfw no asian bf
>>5541670
Human sexuality is complicated. I'm of the opinion that it's better not to over think it and apply labels, just have a good time and sleep with the people that you're attracted to. If you like her, and she likes you, that's really all that matters.
>eye posting
where are the FEET
>>5541668
>some of us that look a certain way recognize that transition may not be a good choice at all, I could remain a 3/10 male or be a 3/10 male with breasts
eh just go for it. if you're worried about breasts outing you before you're confident enough that your face could pass, take an AA and take a SERM like tamoxifen instead of estradiol until you feel more comfortable.
at the very least it will keep you from becoming more manly.
tfw no dumb whore gf
>>5541692
Well that's what I'm going to call you and any other tripless commenter who knows even the slightest of me
>>5541703
stale meme.
>meet this MtF online
>become close friends with her
>she gives me advice and makes me hopeful for the future
>she disappears for a couple of months
>returns
>she's now batshit insane
Why is it the good ones who always go crazy?
>tfw man eyes
>>5541711
Sounds like something I would do if I had friends.
>>5541711
Did tumblr get to her? It happens. I've had that happen with a few friends.
>>5541702
You're probably right. Thanks.
>>5541711
Wait, does that mean my gf is going to go crazy eventually?
>>5541711
poor thing probably had a breakdown
>>5541711
>meet this MtF online
>good ones
>online
>>5541725
what about eyes ?
ew here it's only stormy
thankfully no snow
I hate winter
>>5541720
Possibly
She's not that "check your privilege" type
but she began talking about stuff like "passing is not as important as you think it is, living as a girl is more important".
She also was crazy in other aspects too
>>5541723
Idk
How's her mental state rn?
>>5541724
Maybe she did
>>5541726
I've met tons of MtFs online who are great people
>>5541697
oh i see m8, sorry for autismo
>>5541720
You never hear any good things about Tumblr do you, no idea why people flock to it
>>5541683
Is your name Kara?
>>5541730
You can't live as a girl if you don't pass, lol
>>5541736
i blame the internet famous sjw crowd on youtube. they probably act as a tumblr gateway to their fans.
>>5541742
I tried pointing that out but it fell on deaf ears.
>>5541706
I've posted enough mood killers so I'll make this my last one, hrt will do nothing for my appearance, there will be no point in that time where I will even slightly pass and while I'm happy to stay here and encourage those who can make it I don't see any merit to sincere delusions that I could
>>5541726
o-ok
>>5541730
what she said isn't even crazy. not everyone has to give a shit how idiots in public perceive them. 99% of trannies aren't going to pass regardless of what they think so she sounds pretty reasonable when she prioritizing her own comfort and happiness over the petty standards society and culture tries to shove down your throat.
>>5541736
Some people see these things as positives. Though, at the same time, some people think pineapple is a pizza topping. People don't always do smart things.
>>5541747
don't make passing your main goal. fwiw i'm not.
>>5541751
Trip on larry
>>5541749
imi pls you ain't online
>>5541730
still not a surprise that somebody you only know online can go crazy I mean you don't rly know them that much
>>5541754
>posting eyes
why tho ?
>little snow
fuck no, no snow for me pls
>hey now
nuhu
>>5541757
the mad hun has crawled out of his lair underground i see, not me who said it and completely counter to my views
lurk more in the shadows where i don't have to see you pls, ty :*
>>5541730
That's absolutely right though. Sure plenty of perma-boymode shitposter on /mtfg/ like to encourage everyone to develop a complex about passing, but that's just not as effective as working on yourself and passing naturally and not building it up into some sort of immense social anxiety inducing thing.
>>5541744
Youtube was a mistake
>>5541753
>pineapple is a pizza topping.
I hope no once actually does this in these threads... r-right?
>>5541753
pineapple is a pizza, topping that shit is godlike
>>5541747
Liz pls you can make it to tho
>>5541711
All trans people are crazy. The better one is at hiding it the worse it actually is.
>Mom let her puppy run out the door on new years eve and then he went missing for 5 hours after a firework went off
>stayed up all night and ran around searching for him
>he came back home early in the morning
>fast forward til today
>Mom is chatting with a friend downstairs
>says I let the dog get out
Should I just let this slip or let my reputation get more down the drain in the neighborhood?
>>5541772
ignore my shitty punctuation
>>5541775
ikr.
>>5541747
i'm not trying to be a bitch but look, its going to get worse. you're going to either masculinize more, transition later, and end up being a hon, and REALLY regretting it, or you're going to kill yourself. I guess it's possible that you could also live a long, bitter life as a shell of a person too but I've never really heard of that happening. You can keep your boymode on hrt if you want or need to
>>5541780
Does it matter to you what these people think of you?
How was your day overall /mtfg/?
Mine was pretty gucci. I had first session of laser and I got meeting with psychiatrists. I got my referral so I'm all approved to start hrt when my doctor gets back from holidays on the 25th. I knew I pretty much would get the referral today but I was still really nervous and worried that I wouldn't for some reason. So I'm pretty happy with progress and things today.
>>5541784
you top pizzas? how?
>>5541768
She seemed to discourage me from trying to pass saying that good people will look past and see you as a girl on the inside.
>>5541791
ive been gettingh high as fuck all day
>>5541757
you'd be pretty surprised how satisfying it is to stop fucking hugboxxing, crying and circljerking on imageboards and actually just go outside and be yourself and not have these creeping paranoias every five seconds. because guess what, yeah, you're a tranny, but nobody gives a shit. so yeah, people are going to tell from time to time but it's just something you're going to have to get used to, because even if you opt to do exactly what you're doing right now, it's still the same results except for a lot more stress and depression. physically you're not even any different regardless it's just a different mindset.
>>5541730
Everyones diffeent. You'll never pass in some peoples eyes and some can't gell a drag queen from a cis girl. Focusing on your subjective appearance to the point where you're depressed because you won't pass is unhealthy. The best way to pass is to present, you can't be read as a girl if you're trying to hide your feminimity. There are plenty of cis girls who wouldn't pass if you were checking.
Even an ugly woman is a woman.
>>5541798
ye I'm doing that now too.
>>5541788
Not really.
I hate when people lie and the fact that she is using me as a scapegoat.
>>5541791
i woke up earlier than usual (12pm) and done absolutely nothing. Booking a holiday with my friends to fuerteventura for next month though!
>>5541812
It's super shitty and I would probably confront if it was me but idk
>>5541812
Take Her over the coffee table right there I front of everyone to assert your dominance
>>5541753
I'de take pineapple over fucking corn
>>5541813
Are u a Spanish qt by any chance?
>tfw literally everything about you is hyper masculine
What the fuck do I do? ;_;
>>5541813
Nice, what are you planning to do there?
>>5541831
you get md5'd.
>>5541831
Hi Lain
>>5541831
you could be egging it a bit post face pic so we can see if ffs would fix it, also do you have advanced male pattern baldness?
>>5541826
mtfg is always bizarro 4chan; the best trips are the aussies.
>>5541831
Pretend you pass and go live life anyways.
>>5541834
ebin
>>5541836
Hello
>>5541840
I posted man eyes.
>also do you have advanced male pattern baldness
lol no I have too much hair.
>>5541846
I can't delude myself like this.
>>5541846
Add to that a little.
Get tomboyish ladyfriends so you don't stand out.
Everytime we hanged out I was the prettiest in the group.
>>5541843
literally wrong. the australian trips are all ugly fucking hons or animeposting losers. the only acceptable one is jörmy.
source: i'm an australian trip.
>>5541828
I wish, just a pale bong that gets sunburnt extremely easily :(
>>5541832
Probably just relaxing, have a decent time in the sun you know. Only me and 2 other friends so won't get too crazy, dead cheap as well like £130 per person and that includes flights, travel insurance, hotel and a shuttlebus
>>5541827
THE FUCK? Corn?! I don't even understand how people think these things up.
>>5541831
Link the fire.
>>5541853
>delude
You don't actually need to believe it yourself in the beginning. You just need to act as if it's true.
>>5541864
Which one?
>>5541672
Just let me know if you do then. Happy to help people out though.
>>5541864
>hating on kit
how does \mtfg\ feel about the asian eyes
>>5541873
That's almost impossible when I know it's not even a little true.
Too real for this ;_;
>>5541879
Better than my pig disgusting ogre eyes.
>>5541879
qt as fuck
>>5541879
>less likely to require nose and brow bossing ffs
>maybe more likely to require jaw ffs if korean? i don't like brown eyes much, but having that facial structure must be easymode.
>>5541865
Damn that cheap as fug.
>>5541883
It's actually really easy. You'd probably find most people here thought they saw a man in the mirror when they started full-time.
>>5541869
Coen pizza sounds amazing. I don't like how restrictive pizza toppings are right now. As it stands theres only one or two I like. Why can't people be experimental with this? Someone though to put yogurt in the freezer and eat it that way but no ones ever made a rice and pea pizza.
>>5541895
Cohen*
>>5541890
I don't just look like a man though, I look like some testosterone beast
Most cis men don't even come close to this.
>>5541904
You're right. You probably don't look like a man.
I'm not really trying to convince you though. Just hoping it's useful advice to anyone else who reads it and actually wants to transition.
so what'd mtfg have for breakfast?
I just had breakfast of champions, leftover pizza
>>5541912
buttered toast yo, feels good man
>>5541912
Marijuana dab for breakfast? IDK I'm thinking about making some pizza soon as a brunch thing.
>>5541910
Not everyone can transition at 20 and pass.
>>5541679
w-wow qt desu
>>5541904
stop making excuses. either do it or don't, but don't post this shit baiting for replies if you're not even going to give pics for us to work off
>>5541513
maddie omggg !!
>>5541921
>being realistic is making excuses
>>5541925
Yeah lol
>>5541912
i made a smoothie with blueberries, raspberries, soya yogurt and almond milk.
i used that to ingest my daily regiment of dietary supplements and psych meds, and finished it off with mones.
>>5541904
No amount of repeating it and making it sound worse. Every single person who has transitioned here can tell you that's what they would have said when they started, that's what they see people always say.
>>5541932
ughhhhh if you're not even going to try why are you here!
today was pretty good
>>5541920
^///^ Thanks :D IDK I think I'm doing better lately at least o.O
>>5541912
I drank some fruit juice and swallowed a bunch of medication. For lunch though I had beef stew.
>>5541943
because euro trash are pathetic and always need to shitpost their pathetic lives.
>>5541945
same
>>5541932
I'm certain you can make it work
and if you can't
Why not just save up for FFS?
>>5541930
Sure, but that's depressing and no one wants to hear that. At least last night the tiny window that showed me while camming looked like a girl. Little victories right?
I always see a girl before I recognize myself.
>>5541791
>tfw nedroid is literally only updating once a month despite getting loads from patriarch.
>>5541943
>replying to lainanon
>>5541957
that explains the trip.
>>5541958
She gave up on life four years before starting HRT.
>>5541930
>A very large number can though, which is why nobody believes you desu
pls
>>5541943
I used to try then I realized I was destined to be a hon and gave up on life.
>>5541958
How can I make it work when even my eyes are clockable?
>>5541951
these shoes are so comfy! ^__^
>>5541912
A yogurt cup and a glass of ale
>>5541918
i've just been puffing on some normal bud and there was like half of our lamb-sausage/chick-pea/fermented-beet/hot-capicola white-pizza from last night
>>5541930
it's only agp if it turns u on!
just think of it as a sad little peanut pizza
>>5541933
oh that sounds good besides the soya yogurt and almond milk, I'd prefer kefir/goat-yogurt and just toasting some nuts to put in
>>5541948
it's better to just eat actual fruit, my partner and I have pretty much stopped getting juices besides for specific recipes and stuff
>>5541972
Your eyes look more tired than anything
There are many things to make your eyes look better i.e. Make-up
>>5541974
i hab fuub febbish post feeb :DDDDDDDDDDD
>>5541972
>Why isn't this entire thread about me? Time to derail it with literally the same shit I post every single day
>tfw fell asleep on skype call
embarrassing desu
>>5541977
what kind of ale? I prefer cider for the morning
>>5541974
I took the insole out of my 3 year old sperrys and now they're very comfy too
>>5541979
I'm always tired but they're still deep set hyper masculine eyes lol.
>>5541985
I used to know someone that did that all the time and it's adorable to the person on the other end desu
>>5541982
Bully time!
>>5541978
I tend to eat a lot of fruits. I needed something to wash all the pills down. Plus since I've been a bit crotchety and sick, I needed the fluids.
Most mornings I don't even eat Breakfast though. I'll eat a small lunch and a small dinner usually.
That's the weird thing. As I've gotten older my appetite has gone down. I suspect the hrt is playing a part in it too.
>>5541972
Makeup does work and can hide a lot of problem features.
>>5541992
its true though lmao
>>5541997
>just get ffs :)
>>5541688
Obviously we're not seeing the full picture, but just from your eyes and nose bridge I don't see anything wrong. Good enough for Da Vinci, in any case.
>>5541986
My ale. Just pale ale with mostly mugwort instead of hops.
>>5541522
>>5541963
Candy pls.
>>5542009
>mona lisa was a hon on 16th century hrt
>>5542009
My nose bridge is massive tho.
>>5542009
Fucking old hons ruining renaissance art, I bet everyone hugboxed her too
>>5542017
Your autism is massive too
>>5542017
oh shut the fuck up already! that's literally the easiest bit of FFS to get done.
>>5542017
Kill yourself
>>5542000
either way, you should bully her cuz she likes it :^)
>>5541959
Little victories are worth taking, I love those days or moments where your brain doesn't recognise you or apply those filters. Every once in awhile I get lucky too.
>>5541978
I swear that peanut butter doesn't turn me on, please don't kick me out ;~;
I only get turned on when it's mixed with jelly, that's less agp right?
>>5542023
Is it time?
Kill yourself faggot.
>>5542024
>just get ffs :)
thanks for the tip hon :)
>>5542006
Save up, mongoloid
I tried really hard.
>>5542037
You look so different without glasses
>>5542033
Do you masturbate to the thought of yourself as a peanut butter jelly sandwich? That's pretty autosangaphile.
>>5542035
>thanks for the tip hon :)
you're welcome, you obviously need help
>tfw gf yells "hit me harder"
>tfw red marks on her inner thighs over a day later
I feel pretty good about this tbqh
>>5542035
If you really had dysphoria you would spend some energy trying to improve yourself instead of wasting all day shitposting and displaying your masculine energy defending yourself in this thread. You're just a confused, Edgar-tier gay man. Go back to gaygen hon and leave us girls alone.
>>5542042
I swear that I don't, but my biggest fantasy is to be dunked in marmalade and have people rub me with whole wheat wonder bread.
