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▶Makeup Tutorial: http://imgur.com/a/JO33K/
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▶Transition timelines: http://imgur.com/a/qWpxv
▶Voice Training: http://pastebin.com/dgipdsge
▶HRT info: https://web.archive.org/web/00000000000000/http://taimapedia.org/index.php?title=Hormones
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Previous -> >>5514085
Can you even get on implants in the UK? Seen results of them and they seem cis tier.
>minecraft server
>broken discord link
this has been brought up like 5 times and still not fixed i'm actrually a little depressed.
I want pizza
>>5515412
bob implants?
>>5515413
mfw I changed the minecraft link many threads ago
when will I get a gf/bf?
>>5515417
'already?'
nine hours.
>crush wakes me up at 7:30 AM because she really needed smokes and said she'd smoke some weed with me
>go there, smoke weed
>get hella fuckin high
>walk around Bellevue before she starts work
>now home
fun mornin desu.
>>5515415
HRT implants.
>>5515417
Preferably without the mask though
>>5515388
iktf
Going to see five finger death punch & black sabbath in April, guaranteed sausage fest.
20 hours of not eating!
>>5515410
Honestly, it's a pretty common misconception, one generally assumes that if you're putting something directly into the body that it disperses at a constant rate, but your blood levels spike immediately after the injection and drop until they bottom out before your next injection. It spikes, just in a different way.
>>5515428
I'm listening to Daughter, can I have passable music taste?
>>5515431
Eating is for losers tbhon
>>5515435
>to be hon
http://www.obsev.com/entertainment/25-most-arresting-jawlines-hollywood.html
Daily reminder if you have a jawline like these celebrities, you shouldn't transition
>>5515435
>Daughter
You have a good taste in general.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEpMj-tqixs
>>5515443
im not transitioning, im just popping skittles in my basement
>>5515443
My is on the right, should I continue my transition?
>>5515443
" Robert Pattinson’s face is like an actual hexagon." nice.
>>5515420
pls respond
>>5515444
T-thanks
https://youtu.be/S5MpD6b-bkE
>tfw meet up with a trans girl
>tfw go back to her place
>tfw her hands are so much bigger than mine and its so hot and she just overpowers me and we have vicious sex for hours
>>5515455
if you're anything like me then never
>>5515453
Did you get a virtual ffs?
>>5515420
I don't know, anon.
>tfw no bf
>>5515402
>>5515458
You should check out Wildlight.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUOasDGMh_U
>>5515467
its scary outside tho
>>5515466
It did it myself. My FFS in 31 days.
>>5515473
Not bad anon.
>>5515478
Jelly of those photoshop skills
>>5515467
what makes you think i was even shitposting
i was talking about a nice time i had
wtf mane
>>5515443
There's nothing wrong with those jawlines on those female celebrities.
God this place is so ficked up with its standards.
>>5515474
Will do!
Here have something you too
https://youtu.be/MfvcPeWO8yk
>>5515485
I can try yours if you want. 4fun.
>>5515478
hope it turns out well, anon!
>>5515489
If you're not 10/10 you don't pass obviously, kek.
Yeah its stupid.
>>5515478
unless that photo of you on the right is uncommonly flattering for you, i think you're already ok. idk i'd find the pre-ffs picture of you more attractive than the photoshopped-ffs one, and i'm attracted to women, but it's hard to assess, the picture on the left makes you look very young.
maybe you need a trachea shave? unless other photos of you are worse, you might easily already be fine, really
>>5515490
Have you posted in the music thread over at /wsg?
>>5515492
Ah no, it's ok. I appreciate it but I'm far too paranoid to post my face to anyone on here. Not that I don't trust you I'm just autistic about it. Did you use photoshop a lot before trying your face though?
Good luck with your ffs, I hope it goes well!
>>5515495
Everyone is a hon. Everyone. ;~;
>>5515496
talk shit get hit
jk for real tho gratson the sex(?)
Girls! I did it!! I got estro, spiro, and progesterone. I survived the blood test too!
>>5515402
Is that Shirely?
>>5515503
Never
Why?
>>5515478
>My FFS in 31 days.
oh by this you mean you are already getting it? well it should turn out well, you aren't starting off without already having nice features to work with. good luck
>>5515507
>>5515507
there is nothing hotter than another trans girl (who actually passes pretty well) with fingers twice the volume of yours iron gripping your wrists and slapping you until you squeak that you're her bitch and then having her shove your head down to her cock
NOTHING
I have seen the enlightenment buddha spoke of
>>5515502
Normally I would be happy to hear that but yesterday I accepted a 'friend' request on my FB from some local MtF trans. She is in pic related.
She told me I look like a balding male with hollow lips and no cheeks. And I kind of agree with her. For me she looks like a cis women and I look like a man.
I need my surgery.
>>5515520
she looks more tranny than you tho
>>5515519
yes, there is.
>>5515525
no there isnt
>>5515520
i'm sorry you received that abuse. she looks like an overconfident asshole who just uses other trans women as cannibalistic fodder for her own ego. those people are full of shit. they're on here too, but they're also full of shit.
>>5515512
Someone also posted songs by Keaton Henson.
>>>/wsg/868661
>>5515505
I'm not an artist by any means. But I do use it all the time for last... I dunno 15 years? :P
My surgeon also pointed out that I have adam's apple even though it's barely visible with normal condition (BMI 24 so it's probably because I'm fat).
But I decided to skip it for now because I want to undergo Voice Feminisation Surgery at Yeson.
>>5515534
I'm sure a lot of people listen to him.
>>5515532
whatever happened to cuddlesex and cuddlesex ethos?
>>5515533
Yeah you are probably right but I can change the fact that I see her as more attractive than myself.
i want someone to hold me
>>5515546
iktf anon..
>>5515540
I never heard of him.
>>5515545
You should link her Andreja.
I want to kiss a boy
>>5515545
she isn't more attractive. her appearance but also her whole affect in that photo, she looks like a goofball
>>5515546
I'll hold you in my big strong manly arms.
>>5515551
Oh okay ;-;
I like comfy calm music
https://youtu.be/844wpvZxTxk
>>5515556
I want a boy to kiss me tbhon
>>5515552
i'm happy for you, i won't ruin your moment.
>>5515511
congrats sweetheart!! <3
>>5515557
the hugboxing is real
>>5515561
pls do
>>5515506
i need to petition the ontario government to allow me replace my gender marker with HON
>>5515537
>15 years
Waaay beyond me lol.
>>5515557
I tell myself that I'm more natural and that I'm more real than her but truth is there is more woman inside her that in me.
I'm shy nerdy girl and she is this gigi style glamour woman.
for fuck sake I'm not even full time.
>>5515556
I want to kiss you on the mouth.
>>5515511
gjgj welcome to the club
>>5515562
ruin it pls
>>5515571
desu between anon and her fb friend it's pretty subjective. anon looks like a fairly normal attractive "girl next door" type girl, whereas the fb girl looks like a high glam, over the top, pornstar type girl.
One is the type that normal people like, the other is the type 15 year old boys like.
That said, I do think anons virtual ffs is an improvement.
>>5515533
>>5515571
no, i imagine her personality is repulsive. she says gross things about people as described and poses like a phoney like that--i can't imagine enjoying being around her. i'm sure some people find her attractive, but i can't tell behind how obnoxious she looks
>>5515520
>I accepted a 'friend' request on my FB from some local MtF trans
Why are you living out and proud in the first place. You could go stealth and live a good, non-politically charged life.
>>5515597
ruin it. tell me what is objectively hotter than what i had. TELL ME
>>5515584
>angles to be dishonest
I can't even do that.
>>5515586
aaah shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWZwLCKyR1Q
>>5515601
make me. as i said, i'd rather just deny you and not be a degenerate.
>>5515613
I can't make you but I have to know. tell me what degeneracy I must do to get more pleasure
>>5515577
>I'm shy nerdy girl and she is this gigi style glamour woman.
You shouldn't feel bad about that famm.... I'd rather be friends with a shy nerd girl than some vapid idiot.
>>5515598
I'm not out and proud we meet at some trans dating site. With my look I can't go stealth. I need FFS for that and VFS.
>>5515572
me and u
>>5515597
>>5515610
>you will never kidnap the entirety of mtfg and force them to show you their handwriting.
breaks my heart.
>>5515629
>>5515619
Do you have skype maybe? You seems like a pretty cool person across several threads.
>>5515636
this
>>5515634
honestly I have facial characteristics similar to her and stealth isnt possible with them unless you live in the south. and even then...
she is feminine enough that she can go full time without passing to 100% of people and she wouldn't look gross at all but stealth just isnt in the cards without ffs
i say this with experience interacting with hundreds of people. some of them just clock or get uncanny valley. just how it is.
the sad truth is many male puberty things aren't even easy for us to see but other people detect them subconsciously, so pictures arent all they seem. for that reason, unfortunately, trans girls really are held to a higher standard to pass than cis girls. it sucks but thats life
>tfw ugly boobs with stretch marks
>>5515644
Yeah I'm FFS anon and I completely agree with you.
Let's add that I'm 5'11" with 17" shoulders - I really need those surgeries.
>>5515619
>vapid idiot
But vapid idiots are hot.
>>5515655
I'm glad you're in a position to get them. its really gonna help. ffs is so magical for us honestly, its better than srs for psychological problems
just remember you're beautiful right now. that bitch is totally wrong. you do not look like a man and your cheeks are gorgeous and your lips are nice. don't feel like you're doing this because you're an ogre because you arent, you need to do it for your own identity
>>5515662
prove it pls.
stretch marks on my arms, stomach, knees, spine. i really want to die and that's not even the reason. shame oddish isnt a murderer.
>>5515655
>Let's add that I'm 5'11" with 17" shoulders
This is the sort of thing that makes FFS necessary. It's fine having a few somewhat more "masculine" features, but when you have like a whole bunch of them that's when it starts to effect passing and fixing the ones you can will hopefully tip the balance the way you want it.
>>5515636
>>5515643
I'm incredibly awkward in one on one convos but if you want to sure. Do you have a throwaway email I can send my Skype to, or you can send me yours to my throwaway at [email protected] and I'll add you.
>>5515674
this
>>5515665
>ffs is so magical for us honestly, its better than srs for psychological problems
Have you had both to judge this? I'm post-srs but not post-ffs and it's amazing what srs does for you self-image when you're genitally dysphoric. I've never felt so good in my body since srs, it's near enough cured my dysphoria and any psychological problems I had.
I'd still like ffs I'm not in anyway near a rush to get it now.
>tfw voice is deep as fuck with no hope of ever sounding female
;_;
>>5515689
>whats speech training
>>5515689
>tfw you sound like an emo vocalist
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zIHSwQgMk8
>>5515689
Maybe you can join a barbershop quartet?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdTS6-fbNH0
>>5515670
I assume you want me to prove my handwriting is bad?
>>5515695
can u name some pitch apps, pref one for android but if not ipad will do.
>>5515689
The important thing is you tried with consistent effort over time before resigning yourself to buckling down at your job and saving for voice surgery.
Post man voices
>>5515683
My SRS should be at Q1 2017
>>5515683
hmm well I mean that in general terms. everyone has different levels of dyphoria. majority of trans girls are more about face than about their genitals is what i mean
are you stealth?
>>5515712
Well if you have genital dysphoria it'll be amazing for you. I get the mindset of "oh well no one sees your genitals anyway so it doesn't really matter as much as ffs" but until you've had it you really don't understand how much better it makes your life.
>>5515709
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1mxQd0tIxr1
>>5515709
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2qm8-urk5c
damn near identical to mine
>>5515709
http://vocaroo.com/i/s02iVk4oAof1
Muh man voice
Shit mic
>>5515709
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0p4I7weBDk0
>>5515715
>are you stealth?
Yeah, no one aside from my partner knows I'm trans. Though I don't lead and incredibly social life but I've not been misgendered or even questioned ("are you a boy or a girl?" type thing) in like 4 years.
I don't love my face but I'm okay with it. What really helped my confidence/dysphoria in that area was been gendered correctly many times while in no makeup, hair not done up and just in androgynous pajamas to people at the door.
>>5515738
>what
W-what?
I said one two three in swedish.
>>5515737
now i want popcorn. wait where the fuck do you work? i think i asked that before but i am blind AND have awful memory. regarldess i like your handwriting it's pretty easy to read. i used to have that exaxt same nail polish then a housemate stole it rip.
>>5515745
oh, you just said it really fast so i didnt underst - "in swedish" okay now i REALLY didnt udnerstrand.
>>5515738
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1FzhGobNROL
what do I sound like.. ._.
>>5515749
I regret painting my nails. Work ruined them immediately. And i work in a gourmet popcorn shop, silly blind-anon.
>>5515749
Doesn't really matter what I say when i'm just posting to show my manly voice
>>5515756
It's not very manly.
Say a full sentence.
>>5515754
i cant even paint my own nails, my sister used to help. gourmet popcorn, huh. wish i could try.
>>5515756
im not sure thats how phonetics works u gotta speak like slow and clear, yknow. probably.
>>5515757
see, they agree, im not completely winging it.
>>5515750
i'm not ver ygood with descriptive words. you're like slightly deeper than the norm. i cant actually tell which accent it is.
>>5515757
Say what?
>>5515709
https://clyp.it/qlszssul
>>5515764
hello my name is anime and i like sunlight.
>>5515768
English is hard
>>5515766
What the fuck was that
>>5515761
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1hYAsOdjkXy
a longer sentence..
>>5515771
https://clyp.it/howesr2i
>>5515769
Juniorkronorna gick felfritt genom gruppspelet och i kvartsfinalen mot Slovakien fortsatte det på samma sätt.
>>5515761
Painting nails is easy. If you make a mess just wait for it to dry. The only thing you have to be careful of is laying it even.
>>5515781
No, here's the thing you said but in swedish.
Such a manly handsome voice tbhon
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0hz7jHRTmfV
>>5515785
Still very short, still not manly. Young boy is the most manly I'll give you.
>>5515783
i just have really shaky hands so i fuck it up and get impatient. also i like it when other people do it, i like feeling like im being pampered. i miss my ex giving me footbaths and painting nails and stuff.
>>5515787
its okay. I get asked ALL the time where Im from lol
>>5515789
Young manly man?
I need to start working on my female voice more often, I don't have one at all.
>mfw i find a trip's amateur porn
>>5515800
rawr? finally geezzz leak it anon lol
i deserve a boyfriend why don't i have one
I was actually thinking of doing porn for money in my spare time. Would be good extra change.
But then again thats gross.
>>5515800
Spill it, who
>>5515805
Because the cast majority of them are straight.
>>5515800
That's not very difficult, half the people here have shit all over the Internet.
>>5515809
im a girl tho
tfw gotta go to a breakfast with wacky family after only 2hrs sleep soon.
Kill me.
>>5515812
can confirm
>you will never have a bf who's taller than you because you're really tall
>>5515823
5'10" or something actually tall?
>>5515823
>tfw you will never have a bf whos taller than you even though you're 5'4" because youll never have a bf
>>5515827
Very tall
>>5515823
I am sorry to hear that anon.
>>5515814
Still true, I'm scared of contact and want to do a relationship right. But porn makes money and trannies are a niche market. I'm trying to pay rent and buy a car.
>>5515827
5´10" but everyone is such a manlet these days.
>>5515823
>tfw neighbor sees you as a guy and will never deep throat fuck you
>tfw hes really really cute
>tfw he paints portraits but oils fuck up his hands
>tfw too scared to askk..
>tfw talked about dating someone cool he met online in front of you with his room mate
>tfw will never be able to cuddle and feel him behind you
.____.
>tfw gave you a hug after a week coming back
>tfw first time seeing him again
>tfw liked the stuff mom got me to give to people
^___________^
>>5515834
me on the left ;~;
>>5515826
yeah, I'm drinking an instant one right now. I'm a horrible coffee snob though and I don't have an espresso machine at home so it tastes bad. I might buy a real coffee on the way.
>>5515838
yes please be serious i want to be in your harem
>>5515830
>>tfw you will never have a bf whos taller than you even though you're 5'4" because youll never have a bf
Fuck, anon. Are you me?
>>5515851
ok how do we do this
>>5515840
>tfw too tall, hon, gross voiced and man-faced to ever have a bf
>tfw neet failure without a future
>>5515849
I have the same concern. But if i dont get this second job i dont think I'll have a choice.
Probably I'll try a chaturbate cam once or twice and I'll get no views because I'm gross and I'll quit because the blow to my self esteem is killing me.
>>5515856
no guys... ._.
>>5515858
do you get tips at all if you don't show your face
>>5515858
i like you too much to want you to have to do that, but it's not like i'm in any position to come stop you. sorry, sounds rough.
>>5515856
I wish you wanted to do more with your life than shitpost ;_;
I won't be on here for awhile I doubt anyone would care. My grandfather passed today after a ten year battle with altztimers the last time I saw he he didn't even recognize me I'm glad he never found out I am a tranny and at least he's finally at peace cherish the ones you love because you never know when they will be gone.
>>5515869
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bEDM4bsfWg
>>5515862
No you don't and speaking g makes an impact too don't do it it's a dead end industry go to school or find a real job anon like a call center that's what I do.
>>5515870
Alright, stay safe and stay strong. Sorry to hear that. How old was he, if you don't mind me asking?
>>5515868
lllrrrnnn on kik
>>5515876
>call center isnt dead end
are you serious
face to face customer service isnt dead end but call center is pretty god damn dead end unless you make management (most of us wont we are spergs)
>>5515870
Did your grandfather ever rape and/or molest you. Seems like everyone has had a piece of you.
>>5515868
Sure
>>5515869
I want to but what can I do when i'm so disgustingly manly, I feel too disgusting to do anything.
>tfw feel like shit after posting gross voice
fug
I desperately want sheen to die
>>5515884
God, could you lay off for a minute?
>>5515886
But you don't want it enough to ever leave your comfort zone. If you did you'd be years fulltime by now.
Like your "gross" voice is not deep or manly. The amount of training you would need is tiny. But you'll never believe me because all compliments are hugboxing so you don't have to act on them.
>gf found my porn stache
>asks what it's all about
>is mad I kept this from her and that I got embarassed at her
>tells me she's cool with it and we can watch some together
>talks about some really kinky shit for a while and how she was mostly into it
>all of a sudden she mentions "knotting" and giggles
>mfw
>>5515886
>tfw didn't even get judged for posting
I don't even exist.
>>5515893
Was there anything unusual in your stash?
>>5515886
>sure
post contact baka gaijin
>>5515893
This seems like a good reason to create a carefully curated porn stash to just leave lying around.
>>5515887
trip on sheen
>>5515890
>If you did you'd be years fulltime by now
I know ;_; it really hurts to think about
I'm fucking worthless and I have no idea what to do about my manly face
>>5515899
Which one are you?
>>5515877
He was 89 he lived a very full life had been to multiple countries and shared his compassion with many I'll always cherish the time I spent with him he's a truly amazing man. And thank you for your support in don't know how I'm going to get a tatto in memorial of him thankfully my family has decided to create so we can remember Doyle the way he was.
>>5515904
You won't get anywhere until you start ignoring your dysphoric self image and trying to make progress despite it.
>>5515908
Yeah, I bet you spent some 'quality time' with him did you.
Sup, babes
I think I'm finally almost done with this fucking map
Had some mix ups and lots some of the assets and progress but I think I'm finally able to get off it, soon..
Having lunch now.
How's /mtfg/?
>>5515913
Fuck off animal rapist
can a bunch of ppl say shit so i can respond
>>5515924
Shit
>>5515924
shit
>>5515924
what kind of shit? im a pretty boring person without much personality desu but ill try
>>5515924
dumb frog poster
>>5515912
I know ;-;
Not sure what I can actually do other than voice though, most of the bad things are out of my control.
>>5515920
Sounds tranny
>>5515924
Text, voice, or otherwise?
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0j5xLQUuQXV
Also, shit.
>>5515934
Most of the bad things probably aren't real.
>>5515934
I'd hope so, I haven't done any speech training yet. Thank you pal.
>>5515940
>good voice
Good bullshit.
I'm just trying to unwind, how about you, amphibifriend?
>>5515883
I'm already in management tho I'm a premier customer service Rep if I can do it you all can.
>>5515937
My huge jaw, chin and browbone are all very real.
I really do want to try though but it's hard to get motivated when how I look and sound make me feel so disgusting and bad, not getting anywhere also makes me feel terrible.
sup girls, who wants a masc bf who lifts?
http://i.imgur.com/2UrEHh9.jpg
>>5515950
Where is the masc bf?
>>5515947
good enough imo
bullshit is a v special kind of shit
how you unwinding?
am making a grilled cheese against my own wishes just because im hungry and we have nothing in the fridge
then im gonna hopefully be full and play vidya till pookies awake rofl
>>5515950
Those are some rosy cheeks.
Who are you?
>>5515949
You need to stop blaming your motivation problems on your appearance and start actually doing something with your life. By this point you're just shifting blame off of yourself.
>>5515940
um, nothing really stands out, but probably the weirdest thing i had for breakfast ever was stingray with pancakes and fried potatoes on a sailboat.
what strange foods do you like?
>>5515950
only if you let me stick my gt in you
>>5515922
What's wrong bb?
>>5515953
I see you are well versed in the art of shit and shitposting. I'm unwinding by listening to music and trying not to take life so seriously.
>>5515955
How do I start then?
I really don't know how
pls help
>>5515955
there's no "problem" with her motivation, if you never recieve any rewards for your effort you'll stop trying eventually
you wouldn't know because you've had positive feedback your whole life and probably have been in several intimate relationships
>>5515950
Clarissa you NEED to leave.
>>5515950
ltierally what >>5515952 said
i woudltn mind a strong gf tho that can lift my lazy ass.
>>5515962
start w/ voice u fucking dork. read link in OP or smething
>>5515965
no dying. four sugars in every coffee will turn anyone sweet. you're still pure, pls don't ruin that bb. then who am i gonna daydream about buying popcorn ffrom?
>>5515957
excuse me but what the FUCK are you trying to do with your Gran Turismo???
>>5515956
oooh why were you on a sailboat
was the stingray any good? taste more like fish or chicken? @_@ can u describe it
i like...i like comfort food mostly
i used to put parmesan on fries when i was a kid...
does that count @______________@
gonna go make some toast now actually
>>5515961
that sounds pretty pleasant, hope you can really relax anon
>>5515962
1. Stop wearing boy clothes, start doing literally anything to push your transition forward. You're doing nothing but sitting at home playing video games, shitposting, and popping skittles.
2. Find work, or something to keep yourself occupied. Being a neet isn't working.
3. Stop endlessly venting here about you're appearance, your obsession is making it worse.
>>5515963
She hasn't done anything but take self med hrt for close to 3 years. It's a motivation problem, call it what it is.
>>5515978
>implying you weren't raped into thinking you were a girl by your family
>>5515965
Its the easiest work ever and so is management cam work will only last while your young call centers look good on a résumé stroking your dick for hours does not. I make like 2 grand a week it is easy as fuck.
