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Previous Thread >>5490985
i love you guys i have no friends but you make it ok
>>5491648
I can be your friend anon I bet you're great
>tfw no daddy
>>5491652
>tfw no cummies
still makes me lol, but is it still an accurate representation?
>>5491648
I'm transmitting friendship to you through the internet presently.
>>5491648
hai and goodnight /mtfg/
>>5491654
okay lets be fair
those last two are actually reasonable reactions
you have to understand, the attention whores who are transitioning are going through puberty again
>>5491657
Nighty night Liz, nice catching up with you today.
>>5491651
.///. i accept <3
>>5491655
<3 thank you :D
>>5491657
nini
>>5491654
An exaggeration (mostly) of common attitudes. It has truthiness.
11th for Kiwi is a dirty moaning MACHINE
>>5491664
I SAID STOP POSTING HERE
>>5491664
lewd
Just ordered this jacket bcus dont have one and its -11 outside and will be even colder.
So annoyed though, didnt get it in deep navy blue since it was sold out :7
Good or bad buy?
>>5491667
Looks pretty warm and comfy
>>5491665
You said a lot of things with that sweet voice of yours, but you know I'm fully intent on embarrassing you.
>>5491668
How did you get that pic of me
>>5491670
is that you cheska?
are you cucking sophie with kiwi?
i ended up naming him Rory c:
>tfw you miss your ex.
this pic is for you kiwi
>>5491676
Oh no, I'm not Cheska.
hey good morning
i know this probably isnt the best place to ask but idk where else, soooooooooo
anyone know a way of getting priced albums off bandcamp for free? :,D
>>5491685
are you a boy or a girl?
>>5491690
you can only do it if the artist allows. if you can choose your own price just put in 0
>>5491693
Good question!
>>5491695
yes i know, i mean are there any ways to
>not pay for it and still get it
>>5491698
>you can only do it if the artist allows it
>>5491699
but what about stealing
>>5491701
nop
For anyone wondering how voice surgery result sounded like before yeson
http://www.voicedoctor.net/surgery/pitch/feminization-laryngoplasty
>tfw you wake up at 1pm
>>5491714
>tfw you wake up 20 mins before you have to leave the house
>>5491711
do NOT click on this link. trojan RAT
>this will never be you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByBhwrwp5Kg&t=76m49s
>>5491718
>mfw tfw
>>5491726
Intentional. Really.
>>5491724
Who would marry an ugly hon like you?
>>5491664
>tfw moaning last night
>>5491664
trip on sonic
>>5491730
exactly ,_,
>>5491724
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjdxragMip4
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"I transitioned in my mid-20, SRS at 27, been living stealth since. I was rarely misgendered until my mid-40's."
WTF MTFG I thought I would not age like a male. You lied to me!!!
>>5491745
The ride never ends
>stealth transition for 6 months now
>at home for holidays with parents watching TV
>trailer for Le Ebin Trans Meme Movie starring Eddie Redmayne comes on
>"hahahahaha lol wtf look at that freak" / "omg who could ruin their body like that" etc. from my parents
>dad turns to me
>"anon what's the problem, you're not one of those nonces are you?"
>realise I'm visibly whole-body-cringing and trying not to look at the TV
>"o-of course not, what the fuck, who would ever want to humiliate themselves like that, right? it's disgusting!"
>parents seem satisfied, we go back to watching Shrek 2 or whatever
how long do you estimate before I have to come out? this is getting pretty uncomfortable, the other day my mum came inches from finding my HRT stash, urgh, but I know they won't be accepting and will make life a living hell for me
>>5491742
>trying to give passing tips
>with a transgender symbol with some satanist shit tattooed onto your fucking chest
>dat gross looking blouse
nah m8
skimming back at the last thread amongst the blaaaabla it looks like we've retreated back to a homo theme. i appreicate this and thank you
>>5491664
>tfw you actulaly recognize this porn
fuuuck
>>5491760
what
>>5491762
>tfw you're a MtF (Male)
>>5491681
is that game fun?
>tfw lying in bed last night imagining being spooned with a nice hard dick against my butt
>tfw brought myself to orgasm from the slightest of movements pretty much by accident and without using hands
>tfw nothing came out because HRT
>tfw no clean up and can keep lying there
>tfw fall asleep in the warm afterglow of female orgasm
HRT is pretty fucking ace
>>5491681
>level 31
>wearing oxfords and cuffed raw denim
Socks or no? It's cold rn and I have black ones on but debating taking them off
>>5491771
yeah I've not had enough growth for the boobs to be an issue but I keep almost outing myself by reacting awkwardly whenever trans stuff comes up on TV or wherever... especially when it's feelsy; if they'd seen me crying at the Louis Theroux documentary they'd have caught on for sure, for example
also they keep going on about how my mannerisms and stuff have gotten more girly and stuff, idk, that's subconscious on my part, I've not been trying to do that
>>5491781
yeah, 7.5 months in rn
>>5491782
i think you just get more emotionally expressive on estrogen and mannerisms are part of that.
i was watching myself walk in a reflection the other day and realized how fucking faggy i look.
>>5491783
i'm only at 5
[cocklust intensifies]
>>5491783
Too bad you still look like a man hon
>>5491781
Thanks senpai that's what I was leaning towards
>>5491752
How long until you have a potentially survivable financial situation (for no less than 5 months) assuming your parents try to disown you?
>>5491796
a while, minimum wage sucks
Is there a way to make sure I don't grow huge tits? Most of the women have them in my family but I'm pretty okay with small ones. I'm already under eating and exercising.
>>5491802
Stop taking estrogen
>>5491711
Holy shit like 1 recording out of all of them was ok
>>5491805
Okay now can I get an answer from someone whose not a complete retard?
>>5491808
Let me fill in that post for you senpai.
>>5491813
>>5491815
Me IRL
>>5491801
It so does. Work on it, but remember to factor in allowable couch-surfing rotations. Hopefully things work out, but having time to finish your (present) semester and make your financial situation viable is an essential part of coming out trans unless you're sure of your parents' positive reactions.
>>5491813
It's okay don't be shy
(Ty cartman that's what I was going for)
>>5491822
Akaka? Who the fuck are you? Piss off with all these new trips
>>5491802
There's no way to guarantee it but if you stay really skinny they shouldn't grow much.
Quitting E is the only other viable choice.
>>5491827
Like your hon ass knows what you are talking about
>>5491802
Lily complained about the size of her boobs constantly, ask her.
>>5491825
No?
>>5491817
Me irl tbdesu
>>5491836
It wasn't a question hon
>>5491786
I thought about my mom's husband in the shower today. Cocklust is kind of just a terrible side effect.
Gmornin mtfg what is up this morning?
>>5491837
Dope earrings.
What's the best shade of brown tho.
>>5491846
more like sun tan
>>5491846
Scent of cinnamon ofc
So what happens when an MtF reaches her 40s.
Like does E stop working totally and the effects of HRT are reverted? or do we just age like normal women?
>>5491861
why would it stop working?
>>5491861
I guess it would depend on how long you'd been on hrt
>>5491857
Top tier taste Korra.
>>5491861
nope, we age like normal women except better since we still have e unlike normies who get menopause instead
>>5491861
>Implying most here are going to make it
Let's face it, the numbers of experience d transitioned are slim
>>5491872
I'm not sure why u think hormones stop working ...
>>5491872
E works just fine for older people, it's just that as we age T does more and more impossible-to-reverse-for-hormones things.
>>5491872
It's not that it doesn't work for older people, older transitioners just start from a much worse position physically to ever pass. Some cis women take estrogen replacement as they age to minimize some of the effects of menopause.
I get wanting to be a cis girl, but why would anyone ever want to be a trans girl? I'd much rather be a guy.
>>5491874
I'm 37 and HRT hasn't worked too bad for me. Pretty much lifted five years from the age people think I am. And given I've seen it work the same for older women, I'd think that if I get FFS and manage to keep up with proper skincare, I'll keep looking in my thirties for the next couple decades.
>>5491881
Some here are deluded enough to think they are better then cis (read above)
>>5491881
Don't let the femboys, transtrenders and sundry fetishists who push the idea around, being trans isn't something you choose. Tried my best to be male for years, but in the end, I transitioned even as I had given up the idea for a long while since I realized I'd never pass reliably as my officially assigned gender.
>>5491891
What stopped you from living your entire life as a cis guy? Just crushing non stop dysphoria?
>>5491881
Because there are people who would rather be a trans woman transitioning than a trans woman not transitioning, and still others who would rather be a trans woman than a corpse.
>>5491891
Have you been full-time starting from 90s?
your time line looks like you're just a guy w long hair
>be at work
>go to bathroom
>adjust bra
>bra tears in half at the middle
>slowly cry
>>5491902
Damn that sux dude sorry to hear it. How much did it cost?
>>5491894
Nope. Just couldn't pass as a guy. My last ex didn't believe being trans was something else than a pretending game, and even though I tried my best, in the end she dumped me because I made her doubt her sexual orientation. She said that even though she loved me, being in bed with me felt like doing it with a woman and she couldn't see herself as a lesbian. That pretty much was the eye opener for me. And since I had been teetering on the brink of occupational burnout for a few years anyway, I just threw away the male mask to breathe a bit. Did work.
>>5491903
>dude
@_@
>>5491895
Why would you rather be a corpse than a cis guy?
>>5491903
It was a vs bombshell. About $42
Had it for about a year
>>5491901
Nah, tried to transition when I was 18, was gatekept hard and had very fucked-up but non trans-related things happen in my life so I was distracted from it by worse issues. Went full time back in 2014 because I really needed a breather and that was one of the last options I still hadn't thoroughly tried.
>>5491910
were you wearimg it daily? You need to let the elastic rest or itll stretch too much and tear
>>5491902
RIP
>>5491906
Hey, you have guys going "better dead than red" or "death before dishonor" so why not?
>>5491914
Every other day.
I have only a couple Of bras.
I need to get more
>>5491918
angie why dont uou trip again. I think youve changed enough that nobody important would still have you filtered
>>5491906
Good point
Passing is hard and being a hon sucks
This has taken up so much of me and I welcome the day when I can be at peace w being cis male
>>5491902
Try to find some safety pins and temp repair it. Girls will mostly likely have them.
>>5491922
Because I don't want to be part of the circle jerk
>>5491925
having a trip doeant make you part of the circle jerk unless you try to join it ypurself
>>5491918
>fultimer
>owning just 2 bras
First day of ID controls at Swedish border is going good, the Danes just announced they are closing the german border for refugees because of these Swedish ID checks. Which now stop refugees at the border and at the ferries they try to sneak into the country with, meaning they are sent the fuck back to Denmark and they dont want em either.
[Sabaton music plays in background]
>>5491912
Are you working since you went full-time?
>>5491930
chill out family
in any givrn 2 day period you only need 2 bras anywau
>>5491906
I can't be a cis man any more than I can be a cis woman. When comparing possible things I'd rather be, I don't add impossible things into the mix.
>>5491846
Cali gold
>>5491934
So Schengen is basically dead then huh?
>>5491939
we ahould make a faq and put it in a pastebim and put it at the tip of the thread so people who wabna ask questions like that can juat be directed tgere
>tfw gave stranger my number
>sends a message with sweetie at the end
whoops
>>5491943
I don't see why
Can you explain cus it doesn't seem like a big deal.
>>5491935
I did for a year, but since the last push that got me to transition was that I was burning out real fast at work, I set myself on a course for a disability pension. Some inconvenience along the way, like spending a year at a clinic, but I'm fine with retiring at 41 with a 25 k€/year pension on account of melancholic depression.
>>5491947
Or Bedouin Dreams
>>5491950
its forty two dollas nigga.
>>5491929
I guess
>>5491930
Yeah I should own more
>>5491954
Ok and?
>>5491950
Its 42$ idk what ur income is but that's a lot to me and if it suddenly broke I'd have a frustrated cry
>>5491956
I wanna make a trip bur im pretty stupod and i make typos a lot so i think id misspell my name or lassword a lot
>>5491957
Money doesn't grow on trees.
>>5491947
where are you from?
>>5491959
My income sucks
>>5491967
This
>>5491947
France deported gypsies a few years ago.
And Schengen is brilliant so long as the government doesn't tell millions of people they're welcome, because I can imagine it's a nightmare for anyone who frequently travels between Sweden and Denmark.
Tfw old men stare at you
>>5491967
I got bills to pay
I got mouths to feed
There ain't nothin in this world for freeeeeeee
>>5491960
just make your password and name a typo and you're good to go
>>5491959
42 doesn't seem like that much for an article of clothing you wear every other day for years. To be honest I'd say that's far too little to spend on something that's supposed to last and that can be very uncomfortable if it gets too worn out. I don't make much money at all but imo a well fitting bra is something that should be splurged on.
>>5491641
In America, first you get the money, then you get the women, then you get the power...zzz
>>5491969
I'll give you a hint, it's the gayest country in the world.
>>5491975
yea but my typoa arent very consistent
maybe i can just namefag and type anonymoua into tge name bar amd everyone will know its me bexause its spelled wrong
and my computer is on its way out, brilliant -_-
>>5491973
tfw small cjildren stare at you
>>5491995
well idc im going to fo it anyeay
im honesyly not that dumb im jusy bad at typing on a phone keyboars ans too laxy to fix myistakes unless theyrw conpleyely unreadavle
>>5491995
>>5491973
Looking at a mirror hon?
>>5491974
Oh theres ain't no rest for wicked
until we close our eyes for good
>>5491984
whats wromg wuth your computer
>>5492001
where in sweden? i might consider moving to malmo sometime in the future
>>5491951
Your getting disability for depression?
>>5491999
Auto correct
>>5492012
stuttering/irregular frame drops when im playing vidya when before games ran just fine
>>5492010
You skipped a part!
>>5492015
Have fun getting raped by muslims then :3
>>5492011
thabks :) ya i usually post frpm my conputsr which is a lot easiet to type ob but i now have a 1 hour xommute by traon to my new job and thr bumps make it harx to type
Anyone else got their female privilege card yet? Mine came in the mail today. Feels good.
>>5492023
? by allah they would consider me an abomination
>>5492028
Yeah my graphics card might need replacing, but its only 6 months old @_@
>>5492024
oh, sucks. that's a long ride. is the new job worth it?
>>5492015
Where in Sweden is none of your business.
>i might consider moving to malmo
Just stay away from the brown people, if it's even possible in Malmö where literally half of the population is beginning to be non-swedish. Malmö is also literally the first city refugees come to from Denmark so I really cant recommend Malmö, its just a shithole.
You're better off just avoiding Sweden completely, move to Denmark or Norway.
Who are the current trips and what they do ?
>>5492017
Well, to be precise, I was diagnosed with melancholia, i.e. impossible to cure depression, along with PTSD. Got to see a shrink after a very spectacular interrupted suicide and a trip to the ER. All in all, everyone treats me like a live grenade, shrinks don't want my eventual death pinned on them and my employer doesn't want a PR disaster either, so I'll be discharged on medical grounds in about 4 years, with disability as a poor man's golden parachute.
>>5492022
Can't fully remember the line
>>5492036
If you really need a bra, you don't. If what you need is a padded push-up that doesn't make your silhouette look all wrong, $42 sounds about right.
So I'm starting a Skype group for mtfg. Anyone that's cool with Skype want in?
>>5492034
Me and all I do is sadpost and beg for attention
>>5492034
Well, I'm the same old me. Now funposting from a mad house where I'm staying until I fly to Thailand in May.
>>5492035
So you still have to work for another 4 yrs?
>>5492039
I can't slow down
I can't hold back
Though I know I wish I could
>>5492033
well i was more wondering if you were close to malmo enough to have experienced in to make a fair call. it's a tie between copenhagen and malmo i'd say. malmo seems pretty diverse and it's a young city from what i've read so why don't i add to the number there? i don't have a problem with refugees, but i understand if you do. i get it, the situation can be questionable to a lot of the natives.
>>5492051
Well, not exactly, I'm on an extended medical leave with full wages for those next years. Won't be working in the meantime. Besides, I get to stay all expenses paid at a really nice rehab clinic until all the paperwork is done.
>>5492042
sounds good, have fun on your first day!
>>5492062
tha k you!!
ttyl mtfg
>>5492048
i have a fascination with the nordic culture. my mother is from helsinki. it might sound a bit baffling to you, but i have a strong affinity for that part of the world although i have never even been there.
>>5492067
Oh no i understand, i went to Stockholm in 2014 to see some friends and it was amazing. where are you from anyway if you dont mind me asking?
How many of you here pass or come close to it without putting tons of effort into making yourself presentable? i.e no makeup, doing nothing special to your hair other than maybe ponytail, t shirt + jeans, etc.
>>5492080
Oh and post pics of your no effort mode even if it doesn't look that great.
>>5492087
"Great" Britain lel
>>5492087
>maybe you don't understand how good you have it and you take it for granted.
You have bought into the false notion of a Swedish utopia. I dont blame you, it's a myth our socialist have falsely propagated since world war 2.
>>5492090
hey the uk pound is going strong, you must be doing something right over there. i have never been to europe. i have a sister who's in france now. i would like know a bit more about your experience in stockholm, if it's alright
>>5492090
>United
"Kingdom"
of
>Great
Britain and Northern Ireland
>>5492094
you mean how your system has failed your own people for one? i speak to a few scandinavians so i know about these rants
>>5492094
Cartman
What do I say to those people who view Sweden as a socialist utopia/heaven on Earth?
>>5492080
I'm starting to pass. I get gendered female 50% of the time probably? I don't put a whole lot of effort into my dress or hair from day to day, mostly just enjoy looking casual and feeling comfy.
>like chocolate
>like cashews
>amazon offers me a free sample of chocolate cashew milk
>take a sip
that shit is nasty omg I almost barfed
>>5492135
How long HRT?
>>5492135
how's your voice?
>>5492135
Have you ever tried really hard with makeup and stuff to see if it helps a lot?
>>5492142
you're welcome m8
>>5491641
Anyone have any links or tips about diet/how to eat/what to avoid while on HRT?
>>5492080
I'm stealth at a clinic, can't get much worse when it comes to constant scrutiny, so I'm 100% secure about my passing. I don't wear much makeup, usually just liner and rimmel, but I definitely overdress every day, simply because I can. I reckon I'd still pass in jeans and t-shirts. It's just that I like the special treatment my outfits garner me.
>>5492046
Sounds neat
>>5491908
What did she mean by this?
>>5492080
I usually present in that way and everyone genders me female except myself and my parents/siblings so I guess I pass. I don't think mtfg would say I do though.
>>5492169
well i wanted to do a little experiment where i post what one considers as not being completely obnoxious to how people actually perceive it. everything i am writing is a c&p or a pastiche of what they have said already in a very similar debate, for fairness
>>5492080
When I used to work as a service girl I got gendered as a girl constantly (even when speaking in guy voice in a very conservative country) but I also get weird looks from time to time.
I also don't wear makeup most of the time. Still wish I could pass better though.
>>5492184
What did she mean by this?
>>5492175
i'm a crayzee!
>>5492005
#rekt
>>5492184
Can you say that in a way that makes sense?
no amount of HRT is going to make me pass.
It's been a year and did absolutely nothing to my face or body besides give me micro tits.
Killing myself now.
>>5492188
me write similarly or copied and paste things edie has said to find if people think its good taste
>>5492067
>Helsinki
>Nordic
:DDDDDDDDDd
>>5492186
>tfw pass better without makeup
>tfw barely pass with it
>>5492067
You know Finns aren't nordic right?
>>5492195
Oh neat, no wonder I found I found it infuriating
>>5492198
only 1/2. are you from there?
>>5492201
It's okay anon, natural girls are the most beautiful.
>>5492201
>with it
Meant to type anyway*
>>5492202
I'm Finnish and I can confirm this.
We're blonde mongolians
>>5492205
But I'm so ugly
>>5492080
I can pass with no voice and guy clothes, but it's because people are blind and dumb.
#justwokeupselfie
>>5492204
No, I grew up on a farm on the Eastern border.
We're not Nordic though
>tfw you look more masculine when you try to look feminine
>tfw ogre tier body and face
>tfw so gross people have to hugbox you
Why do I even bother?
>4 months hrt
>don't pass
Help
>>5492212
But you don't pass tho.
>>5492215
>24 months hrt
>don't pass
Help me more
>>5492215
>3 years hrt
>only got more manly
>cant even be a little bit feminine no matter what
>>5492214
>tfw cis people and your friends tell you you pass when you clearly don't
I want cissies to leave me alone
>>5492213
ya know i'm still trying to educate myself on these things. what do people in that region consider fins as?
>>5492225
>tfw your shrink hugboxes you loads but in reality you're hyper masculine and all normal people agree
Thanks god tier viking genes
>>5492217
Right, I'm just saying that I get labeled female 95% of the time, and if I go around queer people they think I'm an ftm. So stop worrying if you pass or not, because people are retarded
>>5492226
They consider us as Finns.
>>5492232
But I wasn't worried, I was just saying that you don't pass senpai.
>>5492232
>stop worrying if you pass or not
This is equivalent to when your parents say "stop worrying if you're a girl or not, you don't need to transition"
I don't care if I pass to other people I just wish I could roll out of bed and look in the mirror and see a girl without trying so hard
>>5492221
I thought someone with an affinity to Finland would know a bit more about them.
Finns are not Nordic as they 1) Do not speak a Nordic language, they speak a Finnish which is a Finno-Ugric language and more closely related to Hungarian than Nordic languages.
2) They are not even ethnically nordic (with the exception of a Swedish population living in the nation)
>>5492233
people who belong to any cultural region as a Finn?
>>5492235
No, im too old now and ive given up but maybe you will make it!
Im gonna embrace neet boy with boobs life
