What's your go-to/daily face or makeup routine mtfg?
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old >>5485801
1st for no bullying.
>>5487245
Kayla likes BBC edition!
>tfw no trans gf to show my parents
>No laser hair removal in my city
>get IPL
>It does nothing son
>no laser anywhere without either moving several hundred kms away or spending more on travel for a day trip than the cost itself
??????????????????????????????
>>5487239
>WAH WAH WAH WAH LOOK AT ME COMPARING MYSELF TO OTHER PEOPLE AND BEING SELF DEFEATING WHEN TRANSITION IS SUPPOSED TO BE FOR THE BENEFIT OF MY MENTAL HEALTH RATHER THAN A DETRIMENT TO IT. LOOK AT ME, I'M GOING TO KILL MYSELF WITHIN THE NEXT 10 YEARS BECAUSE OTHER PEOPLE LOOK BETTER THAN I DO
- Kayla 2016
Never change desu
>>5487221
wait what, source?
>>5487162
Everyone struggles Kayla. Being pretty isn't a get out of jail free card unless you want a sugar daddy/mommy. It just attracts a lot more attention and makes socializing a bit easier. The nature of being a tranny is that we will never stop struggling. For instance, being born in the South to a southern baptist family wasn't fair. Neither was being told that I was going to hell by everyone from strangers to my therapist when I was a kid, or being fired from my 4+ year long job solely for being a tranny. It sucks. It really really really sucks, but your going to stay miserable if you don't take action. I promise you that working towards a better life, in any sort of sense, is the only way to stop the wild ride. And if your family is anything like mine, then you are the only one who will make it happen. Whatever you end up doing, I truly do wish you the best.
>>5487245
i wash with cetaphil once a day
that's it, seems to work
How'd I do?
>>5487258
You must be such a disappointment to them.
>>5487245
1. Cleanse
2. Moisturize
3. Makeup
4. Cry
5. Wash it all off
6. Stay in
>>5487270
perfect
>>5487261
tbf, in western society if you don't look nice you might as well not live at all because you're basically part of an underclass, looks are everything here
>>5487214
Still could never get into Handegg too much but I like having an idea of whats happening now. Yeah she missed having more people around for sure. She almost got stuck yesterday under the shed o.O shes such a silly little pup. How has Nina been? Yeah sm4sh was great. Sorry to hear that things aren't better but everyone kinda has that 'growing up' experience of life just hitting you all at once. You can grow from that though!
>>5487227
You are so frustrating. You could be happy just like the rest of us too. Also IDK what you mean, I pass these days fine. I just don't have to update mtfg about every single thing so you seem to think I'm just moping around in self hate like you do.
>>5487258
>introduce parents to second trans gf
>mom says "so do you have a tranny fetish or something"
looks like im never coming out to her lmao
>>5487254
It's already starting.
>>5487273
No because I've never showed them one yet. Gee you can't win with you girls can you?
Wanna be my gf?
>>5487269
how do you like it? i use cerave products but i always see cetaphil sitting right next to it ._.;;
What should I have for dinner tonight lads feelin a bit like stew to go with my brew
>>5487291
Chaser here
Even though your anus has been anally devastated by the bbc id still fuck you.
>>5487288
Nope.
>>5487291
I used to use some harsher products that I slowly phased out with my dermatologist. Cetaphil seems to be all I need and doesn't leave me dried out. Plus I can get it at costco so that's a huge plus.
>>5487293
>lads
u triggered me
>>5487293
pls no
>>5487286
Are you a chaser or a transbian?
>you know you've made it when kayla starts hating you
it's a shame kayla is nuts
>>5487295
kill yourself you degenerate
>>5487270
Post more like this.
>>5487282
aww sorry just write me on skype if you wanna see it too
And kayla before you say that I'm lying.
Just ask elf. She has seen me in person and knows what I look like in body size
>>5487296
well shit... you could get a home laser kit off amazon or something i guess but i don't know which ones are good
>>5487289
Ignore the bullies, you're better than them.
>>5487293
Cheeky nandos t b h
I have terrible skin so I use those 2x a day:
http://www.vichyusa.com/normaderm-gel-cleanser-853559010057.html?cgid=our-products
http://www.vichyusa.com/normaderm-anti-acne-hydrating-lotion-3337871324056.html?cgid=our-products
And toner also by vichy
I don't use makeup. It makes me look older.
>>5487293
Get some greasy pork m8. Never fails.
>>5487311
>j.me
OI SENPAI WAGWAN
>>5487295
oh my goodness
>>5487287
>implying there are any good new trips
>>5487273
I think my parents would be overjoyed if I brought anyone of any kind home, at this point. They've made their peace with the fact that they aren't going to be getting any grandchildren out of me, at least.
>>5487321
I-I don't get it.
>>5487303
im trans, i guess im bi? ive dated guys, girls, and trans girls
>>5487317
>I have terrible skin
another tard who is over reacting to acne
>>5487331
BOY BETTER KNOW
>>5487305
Trip on cartman
>>5487281
Nope. Analyse that statement for a just a second and it falls through.
>looks are everything here
Are they important for you to get a good job? No. Plenty of ugly people have jobs that pay well and gr8 careers. Pic related is the highest earning female CEO in the world, who is also an uggo tranny.
Are they important for you to have fun? Nope. You can enjoy yourself without being madly attractive, as most uggos do. Pretty people even have uggo friends that do fun stuff with them all the time.
Which leads me onto the next point, are they important for you to have friendships? No. Ugly people can have friends too, pretty or ugly, you are not limited by your appearance in having friends.
Relationships is really the final stone here. Now, if you want a super attractive guy, damn straight that's going to be difficult to achieve as an uggo, but its not impossible. Plenty of ugly people have really good looking partners, can't explain it, it just happens. Probably because looks aren't actually that important or something.
So yeah no. Looks aren't important. Transition is something you do for yourself and if you're getting cuaght up in the I NEED TO BE PRETTIER THAN ALL MY FRIENDS thing, you might as well kill yourself now because you're never going to be happy.
>>5487338
lmao, so thats why Jme feels lonely, shes actually a black rapper that cant let down her fans and homies by bee-ing herself.
>>5487352
I dont call out chasers cause its white knighting which is even worse.
>>5487356
cartman either admit ur trans or leave
>>5487356
you're not allowed to bully me onii-senpai. I was nice to you as anon from the start and stuff.
>>5487364
It's just a joke, unless you actually are a black rapper.
In which case gimme your mixtape bruh.
>>5487304
Yep. She needs to be put in the asylum tbdesu
>>5487354
>implying uggo people can have fun anyway
>implying we aren't all secretly dying inside from embarrassment and self-disgust the whole time
>>5487327
I hope I'll be a good trip someday. Maybe even lawful good.
>>5487287
>It's the circle of Kayla.
From the day she arrived on MTFG
And blinking, typed up her first post
There's more clothes to burn, than can ever be burnt,
More to read than can ever be read.
There's too much shitpost to take in here
More sulk than can ever be quelled
But the posts just fly by
Piling up to the sky
Years of whine, going round and around
It's the Circle of Kayla
And it trolls us all
Through despair and hope
Through shitposting and nope
Til she finds her place
On the WPATH
In the Circle
The Circle of Kayla
>>5487366
It would melt your face of so I wouldn't do that. nty.
>>5487366
>Cartman 5.0
>WaFFenSS
why was I so surprised
>>5487378
good meme
>>5487369
hi korra
>>5487372
holy shit 10/10 keks
>>5487378
I only deal high quality memes kid.
>>5487337
>over reacting
>>5487381
Hello frog sup?
>>5487354
Well said. o.O
>>5487354
Tbqh some pretty people I know refuse to hang out with ugly people
>>5487384
>I only deal high quality memes kid.
Ayy LM-AO1
https://youtu.be/lCnqzIYIgUs
>>5487386
I wouldn't call that heavy acne
do your best not to touch them, I wish someone told me that
>>5487370
>>5487391
>>5487392
like don't get me wrong, i have a lot of anxiety and often enough it gets focused into how i look before i leave the house. But even then, in my most anxious state I can still realistically understand that my looks don't mean shit to any of my friends, family, the people i'm going to walk passed in the street on my way to where i'm going. I wouldn't have more or less fun if i was a 3/10 than being an 8/10. Its retarded to think otherwise in the face of all the evidence of ugly people not having shitty lives and managing to continue to procreate and make your ratchet ass.
the big problem is how people confuse being trans with being attractive, and they end up transitioning because they think they'll be more attractive - then they get there and its like oh shit im not attractive, i just look like a slightly feminine me. They get to het up about whether they are attractive or not that they end up letting all the important things slide, because they can't focus on anything else. So they don't get good jobs, they don't get good careers, they don't get good relationships and they don't get happy. It's not because they're ugly that all of this falls down, it's because they're retarded and only focussing on the fact they're ugly.
also @ anon
>Tbqh some pretty people I know refuse to hang out with ugly people
Shitty people exist. I wouldn't hang out with shitty people even if they deemed me attractive enough. Fuck that noise.
>>5487375
> j.me will never drop some sick beats just for you
>>5487371
>lawful good
I like you already. Your complimentary healslut robes and rainbow thigh-highs are in the back room.
I'm still high from yesterday off to play more video games
>>5487398
d-doesn't the mtfg guild uniform require kneesocks??? >.>;;
>>5487398
Yay!
>>5487393
This isn't funny, I suffer from a serious disease known as anmemeia, there is an intrinsic lack of memes in my blood, cause by a deficiency of hememeoglobin. I'll thank you not to joke about it.
>>5487404
lately I have been trying hometown story ... I have a shop and sell fruits and veggies o.o;;
>>5487354
>meet lot's of friends
>have fun with them daily
>shopping, clubbing, having fun all around
>waiting for a train with a friend
>some random couple
>"Look at those disgusting girls over there"
>mfw
I stopped seeing them after that. Now I'm all alone again. I have no confidence whatsoever.
degenrates get out
>>5487404
>I'm still high from yesterday off to play more video games
Drugs are bad Korra, you can escape the ghetto if you just leave Mary Jane behind.
>>5487408
j.me you're not that funny, just be quiet and look cute and leave the memes to the professionals.
>>5487396
>they end up transitioning because they think they'll be more attractive
I recall peach in the beginning
kept on asking if she was going to be qt
It doesn't really matter why people transition, b/c it's their life
>>5487396
Yeah, the way I thought about it or got to that mentality recently was like, idk I realized it's not like I had ever walked around in my life thinking 'is that a guy or a girl' except in a few very specific androgynous cases where it was just on the fence. People don't really make conscious evaluations to figure out the gender of each person they talk to. I've been a lot better off since taking a huge break from here and avoiding those mentalities it brings out.
>>5487405
Rainbow thigh high socks yeah she already told her where to find them o.O
>>5487414
> tfw you will never pass even as a disgusting girl
>not being Neutral Evil
>not going for ranger or warrior class
>being a mage
>even worse being an elf
>even worser being an elf mage
Rebost
>>5487376
>>>5487287
>>everyone you listed has gone through a lot of stuff
>I'm actually honored to be mentioned by kayla in this context. It means she thinks i pass or something, and its basically total proof that i work hard and dont let life get me down too much, which is huge for me.
>>5487301
I think she liked your house more tho because it had a doggy door.
>>5487335
Hello alison. As someone whos never played lol, i hear its easier and more forgiving. Dota is balanced only for high level play, so low level players have to adjust to that, not the other way around. I think its the coolest game in the world and i want to get very good at it.
>>5487423
be happy your scarring is very little and not big/deep
>>5487418
I'm not in the ghetto nor do I even live in the city. I live on a farm dude lol imma country farm girl
>>5487405
this one?
>>5487418
Nigga i'll fight you.
>>5487433
That's good, farmers are honest working people, you're alright Korra.
>>5487431
Aw yeah that way she didn't have to wait on you to let her out XD
>>5487432
Still the damage won't let me use makeup.
>>5487438
go away
>>5487440
why not?
>>5487270
I miss erin.
So who isn't a hon in here anyway? It looks like all of you are
>ywn turn cartman into your personal sissy whiteboi fucktoy
why live
>>5487418
>drugs are bad
This is a terrible meme that needs to die. Drugs are great.
>>5487270
>not being part of shit anime
Feels good mane
>>5487427
>implying a mage
Good Elf Bard master class
>>5487414
Thats because youre a faggot and care about other people's opinions. Don't do that. You're just wasting your time and energy by actually caring. You didn't transition so other people would accept you or think you were pretty, you transitioned because you have a medical condition/mental disorder that meant you felt shitty living one way and needed to fix it to feel better.
If youre trans and other people's opinions affect you this much, you're going to have a really fucking lousy time until you start giving less fucks about what people say.
>>5487419
Of course it matters. If you're transitioning for any other reason than having a need to to feel less depressed and dysphoric about yourself - then you're doing it wrong, and it's going to fuck your life up.
If you want to talk to people transitioning for non-dysphoria and depression related reasons, you should head on over to tumblr. There's lots of them there.
>>5487420
this place is so toxic as an environment for new transitioners desu. it gives them all the wrong ideas about shit and holds them back more than they can tell at first. i left for a couple of years, hung out with cis people online and IRL instead. I'm pretty happy with my transition and my life now.
>>5487440
I have scars on my face from being in fights as a teenager and getting my ass handed to me. There's one right above my lip. The scars in your pic ain't nothing. Stop being a faggot.
>>5487437
>Finnish memes
The best
>>5487449
Sorry that we all dont look like supermodels, chaser
>>5487427
>not being a chaotic good decker
>>5487448
she lives on skype now ^^
>>5487447
When your skin have big pores/scars you can't really use any foundation.
>dramatic lighting to show my point
>>5487427
>mfw my usual build is elf wizard
>>5487459
>If you want to talk to people transitioning for non-dysphoria and depression related reasons, you should head on over to tumblr.
Or /femgen/, although a lot of them are legit trans in denial.
>>5487457
>>5487442
>>5487465
>>5487470
Disgusting.
>>5487468
http://theblondeshell.com/2014/07/29/best-primers-for-large-pores/
Chaser here
Why am I a bad person for wanting maddie to cum on my face?
>>5487427
>2016
>hating on elves
come on anon
>>5487473
I bet you use street samurais.
>>5487470
>elf wizard
>>5487467
Tell her I miss her. I don't go on skype anymore.
>>5487474
Of course I'm using one of those. I have enough money to try everything. Thankfully I don't need it to pass but it's a bummer I can't put full makeup when I go on a party or something...
>>5487468
you have skype?
>>5487476
>>5487485
yes, why?
>>5487487
oi fag want pic write me on skype <3
>>5487489
Yes, watch yourself around your betters, dwarf.
>>5487473
idk rangers kinda suck, better off going bard/druid or druid/barbarian >__>;;
>>5487470
elf wizard is p good desu ^^;;
>>5487487
Aww, yeah she needs her exercise! Though I mean I'm totally one to talk with how often I take Shadow for walks XD But she's got her big wall and all, though shes been ending up outside the yard a couple times since you left. Silly jumpy pup.
>>5487493
I just realized i changed my skype so i dont have you on it any more. Re add me: "alljadetaylor"
Ohyea and anyone else feel fee to add me as well. Always welcoming new friends.
>>5487479
You just haven't seen what I can do maddie.
I know im being kind of an asshole but you seem fun and I like to play around.
Everyone post which trip you would want as your sister RIGHT NOW
>>5487492
it's better way to communicate
post yours and I might be able to help
>>5487508
err we don't know each other.
>>5487511
erin
>>5487487
>Chaotic good
Plebiest alignment after Neutral Good.
>>5487498
>impligni I'm anything but human
>>5487511
Elanna
>>5487511
kit
>>5487511
Elfie!
>>5487520
>human
Your greatgrandmothers were quite the lookers.
>>5487525
>>5487396
not passing is part of being uggo, it's what I meant
if you don't pass people think you look like an ugly freak, as someone who has been trannybashed plenty of times thanks to being clocked I think the idea that you can easily have a life just as good as an attractive and passing transwoman if you are an ugly hon is a total fallacy, very idealistic of you
>>5487511
I'd like Lily as my daughter... She's someone a mother can be proud of.
>>5487526
>>5487505
I swear every edition Barbarian gets more compelling. The only reason to even roll ranger in 5e is for an arcane archer and iirc Valor Bard does it better.
Wait, this isn't 5eg
>>5487530
>>5487511
elfginger desu
then we could like dress up as elves on halloween and play rpgs and stuff
>>5487534
being ugly is a harder life
but you have to just keep going
I've been an ugly guy and so imagine how hard it's going to be now as an ugly trans
but life goes on
>>5487511
I want
>bexe as my sister who I play video games with each day while we laze about at home
>maddie as our older sister who works and makes us food and cleans up after us
>kit as the neighborhood girl who sleeps over and we molest in her sleep
Who here /mtfurry/?
>>5487505
>>5487533
I'm not quite sure what this response is meant to mean?
>>5487537
Thats not me ;_;
>>5487550
kira before the lobotomy
>>5487548
>>5487420
but that's nonsense, whenever I'm out with my parents (who I'm not out to, total kayla-bikermode) they're always whispering "is that a man or a woman?" to each other and laughing at anyone even slightly androgynous, it's a very real thing people do, I've had to physically pull my dad inside the car so he doesn't lean out and yell things at trans-looking people before, you really underestimate how awful people can be
>>5487456
>>5487479
>>5487511
I'd prefer being a lonely child desu.
And the only trip I ever really liked is a boy so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>>5487511
Elanna, Kit, Elf, Nycteri, Erin, idk, a lot would be good sisters
>>5487553
Whats the difference? You're both ugly hons.
>>5487558
angie
>>5487459
>you're going to have a really fucking lousy time until you start giving less fucks about what people say
oh wow tell me something I don't know, you make it sound so fucking easy
I don't even know where to begin changing something like that, it's not like a switch on the side of my head I can flick. I'd love to care less than I do, I really would, but I don't know how.
>>5487562
chaser, plz, the only people who will settle for morons like you are on Susan's.
>>5487539
dunno about 5th but if u want an aa in 3rd it depends on what u want ... but bard and fighter make a better base in 3rd for a raw power aa that will make most toe to toe fighters jealous
>>5487511
idk I would be a bad sister lol ... a trip called me oneesama for a while, that was qt hehe but I'd suck as a sister
>>5487129
>>Elanna: Girlcock
N-no
>>5487553
>>5487571
Hugboxer pls
Oddish is top 3 ugliest men here.
>>5487557
It's been my experience.. idk. Worst I got was hearing 'is that a guy' a few months back but haven't gotten similar stuff since and even before then, never had anyone say anything about it beyond a misgendering. Just different places I guess?
>>5487511
This autism
>>5487559
Treasure Planet is bae.
>>5487459
>>5487558
>>5487563
I look nothing like that person
The nose, philtrum, eyes, hair is all wrong
>>5487574
I don't believe you.
>>5487548
I'm more of an animegao person myself.
>>5487574
Elanna you bitch you owe me an answer.
>>5487548
duh
>>5487588
>>5487571
Pretty much, I have enough guys respectfully flirting with me, who think I'm cis and who'd probably be horrified if they knew that I don't need chasers on top of that. Not that they'd notice me as a potential target anyway. But the more attentions I politely turn down, the more I think I could get cynical and greedy enough to overcome my dislike of men after surgery...
>>5487573
>B/F
Even without the full trappy feat chains, Pure Elf Bard makes a pretty solid archer.
>>5487597
Look at that chin.
>>5487597
Still doesn't look like me
Try again anon
Remember, I don't have a heavy brow anymore
I want to smash a brick over dollface and watch him bleed to death.
>>5487605
why so angry honey ?
>>5487601
This is what you noticed? Look at those eyebrows!
>>5487607
why is this me...
i kinda like it desu
>>5487602
>>5487609
Look what I brought out.
Its Larry!
The king of hons himself!
>>5487601
>tfw large chinned
>>5487612
>still trying this hard
>>5487583
Indeed.
>>5487605
>t. Kayla
>>5487603
kek
>>5487612
>>5487599
yeh but fighter gets feats to increase damage plus access to all the feats u want for a bow ...
and u lose less attacks and attack bonus
>>5487625
I wonder how Moko's doing
>>5487616
>not posting the best chin related image
>>5487613
aww someone is salty tonight ?
did you get sir'd again ?
someone laughed at your attempt of hitting on them ?
poor little bee
>>5487638
>vague
>>5487616
i used to joke that i looked like jay leno a lot rofl
>>5487625
whoa creepy anon
http://strawpoll.me/6441932
http://strawpoll.me/6441932
http://strawpoll.me/6441932
>>5487636
ROFL
>>5487653
>http://strawpoll.me/6441932
>no "literally a frog" option
>>5487597
>mfw I saw it on leddit
>>5487653
Dry cereal eating scum.
>>5487663
I don't understand what bexe has to do with me
>>5487666
oops...
>>5487667
if i was a man past his prime i SWEAR m8
id be all over that
>>5487668
anon's weird
>>5487673
nobody said i was...
just tryna get an impression u kno...
>>5487680
>if i was a man past his prime
That's not a very nice thing to say about Pookie.
>>5487640
you're one ugly man cunt.
whats the best way to take 2 100mg spiro tablets? both at the same time? or like 1 at breakfast and 1 at lunch or dinner?
>>5487668
I like that I don't have photos of me on the internet at all; how do you handle it? I hate seeing myself in the mirror, I can't imagine seeing people repost images for everyone to see as well.
>>5487682
do u not know who that girl is
cmon dude this is silly
>>5487680
Anon is just salty
>>5487667
omg lol that's disgusting. is that a trip? must be one of the ones that killed themselves... geez
>>5487687
>do u not know who that girl is
>pretending like that's not you
Oh, ok.
Is it just me or is there an influx of bully anons since New Years?
>hon
>hon
>hon
Just shut the fucking fuck up you condescending piece of shit. I'm sure it gives you a big confidence boost when you insult other people for their appearance. You want to be happy, yet you treat other people like this? You are a bully. You are a disgusting person and you don't deserve happiness.
>>5487685
One in the morning one in the evening, I believe.
>>5487686
Meh
It doesn't bother me.
Anon does this because they are miserable and wants to hurt others.
>>5487683
sick comeback
are you butthurt or why the lack in reply quality ?
want me to buy you a razor for your "lady" beard ?
>>5487693
can u not tell the diff anon ! cmon this is me !
silly willy cmere for tickles
who wants my hrt? I have 8 months worth, I am getting off this ride
>>5487534
>trannybashed
You mean, someone said mean things to you on the street? Get a fucking grip. People say and do mean shit to each other all the time, mostly out of humour, being accepted means that we as trannies also have to accept the rules of the house we want to be accepted in to. Not just try and change everything because it hurts our feelings.
>>5487569
it is pretty easy, you have control over your conscious thoughts and actions. When someone says you're ugly or whatever. Just say "i don't care". Its literally that easy.
>>5487587
who is that dyke?
>>5487707
Crush it all up and snort it live on cam.
>>5487707
why?
c'mon kayla, i don't want to give you a speech but think things through
>>5487704
whoa cutie
>>5487707
yea ill take it
>>5487707
Mail it to me pls
>>5487696
You could say they are atcting like mens.
>>5487715
Anyone but you.
>>5487317
..Doppleganger?
>>5487715
>giving Kayla your address
>>5487711
>belittling someone for getting beaten up for being visibly trans
Weren't you supposed to be less of an asshole after doing molly? Glad to see that lasted all of one day. Maybe you should have a meltdown over the tinychat again to be a little more interesting lmao
>>5487696
I think it's funny because it's one of their friends for sure.
Welcome to 4ch.
>>5487707
can i have your estrogen? i'm good on blockers, although now that i think about it i don't know if border control will let either through
>>5487722
send me your skype here and ill add you
[email protected]
>>5487727
(I wasn't serious m8)
>>5487732
no, you can't have it because you can get it for free
