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old thread: >>5470432
>>5471554
western art is horrible :)
Girls can't love girls
First for only single person at New Years party.
>>5471558
my life is horrible :(
>>5471558
lol no, but yes, the image is ugly.
Reposting from last thread
Who here is a jobless neet or works at most a minimum wage job? Has it make it easier to transition because you can experiment with stuff and not have to worry about going outside where people can see you?
>>5471561
>tfw you realize your life is tumblr art
my god, even my nose is too red.
>>5471563
I know from third hand experience that its a double edged blade.
>>5471561
Is your life a form of Western art?
>>5471552
I won't break up with him and who knows when I'll be back in philly
>>5471555
If it helps their dysphoria
>>5471555
>5/10
you're being a little generous there.
anyway, my Cisquisition marches onward, the combat isn't great but I'm enjoying the game so far
>>5471566
How tho
For example want to try arching my eyebrows but if I fuck up and it doesn't help me pass I still have to go to work, I can't just hide til they grow back.
>>5471565
thanks for proving my point of japanese arts superiority.
>>5471569
>tfw Franku has a bf and u don't
How weeaboo faggot does it make me that I took a "nico nico nii" image of me
For someone else?
>>5471572
Because who else do you have to form an opinion other than you and the internet?
Also hormones can be expensive on min wage
My dreamscape needs to chill the fuck out
>>5471574
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRvdJxwvjhs
>>5471575
I have nobody because I keep to myself at work and nobody talks to me
And I can't get the internets opinion because since I'm not a neet that nobody knows people might recognize me
>>5471580
Well, then you will be critical of yourself.
>>5471580
post to unsee?
>>5471579
Don't give me an existential crisis now, Angie.
>>5471585
I didn't post that though :/
I don't want anyone to die
>>5471586
Same for me.
>>5471587
Neither desu
>>5471587
>I don't want anyone to die
Me neither.
Except for Kayla and myself
>>5471601
everyone is so mean to eachother
>>5471601
Never been in /mtfg/ discord?
>>5471604
Welcome to mtfg where if you aren't model tier, you're a hon
>>5471612
Even when she's nice, people shot on her because she makes it easy to troll her
>>5471608
Hon lyf 4 me then
>>5471612
You would want a lot more people to kill themselves if you were a part of it.
For example, Kaylee.
Not Kayla, Kaylee.
>>5471578
Me on the left desu
>>5471608
you're talking to Attilla the Hon
>>5471619
Morning Elanna
Being a hon is sooooo 2015
>dream about ex again
brain pls stop.
How expensive is it to move out of your parents house and into your SO's apartment halfway across the country? My bf wants to move in with me and I don't know how much to tell him he should save up before he does.
>>5471617
>>5471620
It can't be that bad
I mean I started off really bad but I'm ok now I guess
>>5471619
Morning elanna
>>5471626
Depends on the area you're moving to
>>5471623
Morning Kuppy, happy new year! How's it going?
>>5471626
O_O
you need the first two months or three months up front
then he should have enough to cover rent and utilities for 1/2 or all for at least one year
most housing contracts are one year
>>5471629
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKnE98Wk2lM
Eighth time in an airport this month. I'm starting to find it calming.
>>5471624
2016 is the year of the passer? Good.
No hons no more. Other slogans.
>>5471635
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LeMVDuIO3J0
>>5471620
>Attila the Hon
>>5471629
Nah
I'm just hon by /mtfg/ standards
Perhaps I could look at least half as cute as Elanna or something.
>>5471631
Well
Positivity came back :)
Though New Years was kinda lame, mother had to work so we did nothing this year. I watched the fireworks at least.
>>5471629
CO to either southern PA or northern DE. I'm not moved out yet myself either so I don't know exactly where yet, still need to figure that out.
>>5471633
Ya I figured I'd tell him 6 months of his share of rent/urilities/food so he has a buffer in case he can't find a new job right away. But I meant more the actual cost of the move, like if he's going to have to pay to fly himself and his stuff out here, etc. I'm worried there's costs I'm not thinking about.
>>5471647
You should look up the average rent in those areas so you can plan ahead.
>>5471649
Iktf
I did ffs, but still have srs to get which won't happen for a long time
So easy to hate some of the /mtfg/ discord degenerates
>>5471629
Morning Angie ^^
Got anything exciting planned for new years?
>>5471636
To be fair, your airport is one of the more relaxing airports you could be spending time in. I don't think somewhere like Pearson could ever be relaxing, but maybe I'm wrong ;~;
>>5471643
Glad that you're feeling a bit more positive. Kinda sucks about new years but fireworks are still awesome.
>I'm just hon
Dammit Kuppy you're pre-everything, you're not a hon ;_;
>>5471649
Morning lizbell, how're you doing?
>>5471655
Me and bf are suppose to go out but he's been sick so that may not happen
>>5471655
I had a migraine last time I was in yyz and it was basically hell.
Ooh boarding now.
>>5471651
I have been. The areas aren't too expensive, it's just a tradeoff between slightly higher rent vs. a slightly longer drive for me to get to work. I lived in my own for a few years before I went back to my parents so I have a decent idea about judging cost of living.
>>5471655
By /mtfg/ standards I'm a hon
Perhaps I could pass, we'll see in the future.
Feeling a little positive about my chest, I think. So I can see myself passing maybe.
>>5471655
possibly as good as I'm going to get, happy new year to you
>plan to stay up all night drinking and having fun because i work on new year's
>pass out at like midnight and wake up at 5am completely sober with plenty of alcohol remaining
>>5471661
By mtfg standards your mother would be considered a hon
>>5471667
Now that I think about it
You are correct.
>>5471614
trolls are always going after everyone who's vulnerable but her being nice for a thread or two doesn't erase past bs for most people
>>5471672
That is true but people can always change
>>5471658
That sucks ;_; nothing wrong with a quieter night in either, I hope that he's feeling well enough to do at least something
>>5471659
That sounds awful, navigating Pearson is hellish enough without a migraine on top ;_;
Have a good flight!
>>5471661
>/mtfg/ standards
Please don't make the mistake of taking mtfg seriously, by mtfg standards a number of cis women are hons.
>>5471663
That's good, happy new years!
Got anything planned or has new years already happened where you live?
>>5471674
It's sometimes hard to feel that way when nothing has changed for more than 4 years.
>>5471674
they can but her changes never quite seem to stick because she expects that a little effort means everyone has to forgive and forget everything bad
>>5471675
I don't though.
Come to think of it, who isn't a hon by /mtfg/ standards?
> don't know what time I start work
> come in at 8 because that's when I usually start
> don't work until 6 pm
Ugggghh.
>>5471679
final destination, no items, everyone is hon
>>5471679
To me, a day of posting on mtfg doesn't feel complete without being called a hon.
>>5471684
I can't remember being called a hon, have I failed?
>>5471679
Not a hon:
Me
Is a hon:
Everyone else
>>5471679
anime characters, that's why they say we'll never be one
>>5471675
new years has gone and passed, I went on a date and watched the fireworks, came home after a nice night then dysphoria settled in with me at home
>>5471686
ur a hon (i luv u really)
>>5471695
I got the hon body going
>>5471699
:~: also happy new year Kuppy
>>5471704
And Happy New Year yourself
>>5471706
I think I can get my underbust to be 33-36 in size if I lost weight
Still looks too big for me ;~;
I think I can handle my shoulders though
>>5471675
I could go out without him but I rather stay home with him
His health is more important
>>5471706
I feel it Kaz this "Phantom Pain" the guy I went out with tonight knows and he's really nice about it and tries to make me feel better about myself, I just wish I could see it that way I mean yeah I could never be super pretty but I'd like to just be plain enough to blend in
>>5471717
Angie senpai knows my pain?
Then about a hug?
>>5471731
I have a 32.5/33" under bust with 16" shoulders and it sucks
>>5471736
5'9
I hope the bully feels better about himself, he officially drove everyone away from mtfg.
>>5471736
Whether I look it or not, I'm 5'10", have 17" shoulders and a 36" underbust. I really wish my ribcage weren't so big.
My little chest isn't too little anymore.
YayyYyyy
>>5471738
;~;
Man chested sisters unite
>>5471743
>I really wish my ribcage weren't so big
I know that feel so bad
>tfw when just want to crush my ribcage to make it smaller
>tfw used to be super fat so lost like most of the weight to look good
>now skin looks awful everywhere and you realize how big your ribcage is and how wide the shoulders are
>barely any breast growth during the first year because was losing weight all that time
also like 6ft2, why live an another year
>>5471751
It wouldn't look so bad if my breasts were bigger.
I want to get a BA badly
For the lurkers
If there was absolutely no stigma to doing it and you were guaranteed to pass well as a girl, would you become a mtf transgender?
Answer the poll and bump the thread after you vote please so we can get accurate numbers.
http://strawpoll.me/6413540
>tfw you sleep for 15 hours
>>5471761
I'm still tired too
the ride never ends
>tfw will probably work 11 hours tonight and might not even be home for midnight
oh well, bye mtfg, happy new year's
>>5471760
>>5471756
What size are they right now?
>>5471760
https://unsee
.cc/tedupora/
Enjoy
>>5471767
Aww. Better luck with drinking next time, Bexe. Sad state of affairs when you pass out before knocking yourself out.
>tfw you can't tell if you look like a boy with long hair or something feminine
>>5471761
Thats really impressive!
Also I sign of severe depression...
>>5471733
I know it's early days for me, it's just hard and I don't have the foresight for this kind of thing and that's what scares me, I'm a fashionista, not human biologist.
>>5471761
i slept for 11 hours last night compared to my usual 4-5, i've never woken up feeling that good in a long ass time
http://strawpoll.me/6413645
http://strawpoll.me/6413645
http://strawpoll.me/6413645
>>5471773
34 a/b
>>5471783
>Also I sign of severe depression
Maybe it's because I forgot to take my antidepressants or because i'm stuck in my transition as a man, it's a mystery.
I do love sleeping though and it's like my favorite thing to do.
>>5471790
I'm always still tired when I wake up no matter how long I sleep.
>All of the above
MONSTERS
I will never afford srs
I just want to die
>>5471760
My 6'2'' warriors chest, also the skin.. why did i have to be so useless before and so freaking fat.
https://unsee
.cc/pamerosi/
>>5471810
>hips
Just kill me now senpai
>>5471810
>tfw free srs but it's probably shit but at least better than a gt
>>5471802
iktf
>>5471792
Roasted garlic, red onions, hot peppers, and Italian sausage, desu. Assert your solitude like a xenophobic state asserts its borders.
>>5471823
Where are you at in this world?
>>5471554
Since when did we have a radio
>>5471835
Sweden
>>5471824
My new year's resolution is to make you love me
I want to lick Pookie's soles
>>5471801
16" is bad to me and my 9W feet are also bad ;-;
>>5471849
since im spamming it with weeb shit
>>5471850
I would move to that shit hole if it meant getting a free vagina.
>>5471850
Have you checked with SRSgen? Might be someone has some cause for optimism there?
>>5471857
womens 9, is that US measurements?
cus that's like the same as me and I've never had any trouble
Hi friends~
>>5471871
Maddie which trip do you want to kiss the most?
Ey nerd happy new years eve.
>>5471851
o.o;;
D-do you have a strategy of choice?
>>5471869
Yeah and I still feel that my feet are too big
Like quite a few people say I'm super big despite wearing nothing but medium clothing
>>5471868
I think you need to go fulltime for like two years before you can get srs so it's pretty far away.
>>5471881
Post your soles desu so we can judge
>>5471878
I will try all the strategies before the year is out
I must have you, Elanna
>>5471876
a-anonymous.
so many personalities. i'm sure it'd never be dull
>>5471898
bah trip on
>>5471881
my partner's younger sister has bigger
>tfw no bf to cuddle when cold
Fuck it, I'm going to bed.
Good night /mtfg/, I hope I fucking die in my sleep.
>>5471897
But I'm pretty sure that I'm not worth that kind of effort. ;~; I was literally described as tsundere within the past few days by an IRL friend.
>tfw don't wanna get out of bed desu
>>5471917
You are worth more to me that Donald Trump's Empire; I will not cease until you are held, adoringly, in my arms
>>5471914
>tfw spending tonight alone
>and every other night
>>5471927
iktf
>tfw could maybe get a geek boy bf if I passed because i'm nice and stuff
>tfw will never pass
>>5471735
>and it sucks
One day this thread won't be a fucking pity party over shit cis women have regularly.
>>5471937
I would be, we can start anew, you and I. Wherever you want to go, I will take you
What's up grills ?
>tfw been to Arminius Statue
>tfw been to Roman excavations everywhere near us
>tfw been to the crowning place in Aachen
good times
what's everyone else up to today ?
any plans for NYE ?
did you reach your goals this year ?
what are your goals for the new year ?
>>5471920
that feel
I don't want to be awake
>>5471957
My goal for the new year is to be the next Charlemagne
>>5471990
Flounder aimlessly kicking everything around with no long term objective, leave everything you built in the hands of morons, and bang your daughters, while hoping that historians will make shit up to make you look good?
>>5471994
>You mean BIG cis woman have regularly
No, despite what the retards in here think, the word average doesn't mean "upper limit". Cis women with shoulders over 16 inches aren't big, shoulders don't develop because of fat. It's because they're either tall or physically active.
The cliche about the typical female body comes from girls who are encouraged to be primarily inactive.
>>5472003
mtfg's standards on what women should look like are straight up delusional and anyone who believes them needs to see a shrink
>>5472020
yikes
Why must my body insist on being disgusting
I hate shaving so much I want to jump in a fire
>>5471554
Happy new year.
>>5471957
ah hi Lils. sounds fun. I want to travel so bad.
No plans yet. may just order pizza
>tfw you want to go fulltime but can't because man face and need surgery
>>5471995
Oh look, here's the radfem.
>>5472025
Also, 20 week trannyversary today woo
>>5471956
Well, I'm eager to see what you have in store over the coming year ^^
>>5472026
start transitioning pls
you willmake it
>>5472003
I know cis girls taller than me with snaller shoulders...
>>5472020
how is that "lol"? unless u you have 2d aesthetics you're a hon according to this thread
>>5472039
where is the nearest airport to you?
>>5472033
Despite what people in this thread think, you probably can as long as your voice is good. There are plenty of cis girls with manly faces and people won't look at you jaw and start screaming "Tranny" at you.
>>5472040
I doubt it. But I don't have a choice, I will be lucky if I get on HRT in march.
>>5472045
Edmonton international, but I think it would be better to get to know each other first don't you think? ;~;
>>5472056
I don't think you understand how manly my face is though.
My voice isn't very deep but it sounds boyish still because not a lot of practice.
>>5472060
>don't a bunch around here have like literal bdd?
I think a better question is: who around here doesn't have bdd?
>>5472058
Even if you can't there's always FFS
we are going to make you beautiful
>>5472079
I don't think I do...
>>5472042
Mom says I shouldn't wear makeup
>>5472079
Still dont know what BDD entails. Does it mean i have a giant dick or I am a giant dick?
>>5472062
was already there a few hours ago, omw now, looking for u house, going to look thru all the windows to make sure I got the right place
>>5472062
Oh, don't you worry, we will, but I need to know how much I need to save to fly there and then take you somewhere else
>>5472086
Body Dysmorphia
It's a psychological disorder
>>5472074
Sure, he's not everything he's hyped up to be but he still achieved enough to warrant me trying to replace my own shit life with his
>>5472086
Body Dysmorphic Disorder? Like you don't like you're body to the point it is almost or is a mental illness.
>>5472081
I actually gave up smoking for this year, but I'm honestly thinking of taking it up again for 2k16.
Do you still smoke?
>>5472093
So is it body dismorphia disorder?
>>5472093
can you have bdd and be trans?
>>5472099
Yeha no just not familiar with abbreviations
Will i regret it if i stay at home tonight ?
I feel really sad and geeky because im probably spending night alone unless i go get alcohol.
Though dont feel like starting the year again in a hang over. Maybe this makes it one day less bad?
>>5472020
you have beautiful eyes oryx
So I've gotten myself in trouble.
I'm only just starting to come out and really get into an MTF transition.
I still don't have good hair, just a cheap $30 wig that's not in good shape to begin with. It looks pretty damn bad.
I have no makeup yet. Nor do I have experience applying that makeup.
But I made a profile on OkCupid to try to feel out the I'm-after-a-trangirl-scene around where I live.
And then I got in touch with this guy: handsome. 6'3". Not a druggy or a freak, responsible guy it seems.
And he's looking for a long-term fuck buddy, which is exactly what I'm after.
And I don't yet have the financial resources to take care of my hair and makeup problem. And he's about to ask me out on a date I think. And I don't wan to look like the Queen of the Transvestites with shitty thin hair and a shoddy makeup job. What the hell do I do apart from accept the problem I got my own self into?
>>5472108
Staying home alone is what cool people do.
>>5472108
can't you just take it easy on the alcohol? WHy can't you just not drink?
>>5471957
>what's everyone else up to today ?
>any plans for NYE ?
>Chilling in sofa
>Dog in lap
>Got laptop on an elevation
>Friend is over with his friends cause they needed a place for new year and they're all faggits who live with their parents
>They got booze and more weed
>Been smoking my brains out all day with them
>one friend is a mean cook and made some awesome roastbeef he brought with him
I expected to be alone this new year, feels good.
I'd feel bad for everyone alone right now on new year but vid related: https://youtu.be/cGYNuoCigGY
I'm gonna fuck off now and socialize, I dont wanna be caught posting here either.
>>5472120
Well fucking nothing unless you're willing to suck dick for money or some other sort of quick cash solution.
Or, you tell him you're not ready yet and risk losing a fuck buddy. Your call.
>>5472104
i think people point to brad as an example
>>5472126
kk bye Cartman. Hope you have a good time!
Don't kiss anyone at midnight, though, you'll regret that tomorrow
>>5472104
This thread has a few good examples. Or had.
Where do you horrid abominations go to congregate and have fun?
I want to fuck a trans"girl"
>>5472122
>>5472125
Drinking gets me to places.
Also will be freaking dull to be the only sober one around bunch of drunk people.
Im kinda socially retarded
Reminder that relationships end in pain
Ignore me I'm retarded
>>5472152
You're the kind of guy even escorts turn down.
>>5472165
Count me in
>>5472170
You're the kind of "woman" even drunk guys can't fuck
>>5472152
>>>/craigslist/
>tfw you look like a boy no matter what you do
Why did I get these great viking man genes?
I could even cover up everything but my eyes and still look like a man.
>>5472152
Dark alleyways in the poor parts of big cities
Just roam around a bit shouting out how much you love girl dick
>>5472175
i am so wet please take me now oh baby oh yes baby oooooooooooo
I hope the lack of capitalization conveys the tone well enough, it's all I can muster.
>>5472179
Become man
Work out
Don't be a limp wristed fuccboi
WHATSAPP DIED AAAGH
anyone else??
what a timing, 20 in the evening and supposed to arrange things with people
>>5472186
I was a limp wristed fuccboi before hrt too and i've never worked out in my life but I still looked manly and intimidating.
Like no matter what I do I still see the same boy except with softer skin and long hair and stuff
>>5472194
Really do work out
Your hormones are fucked right now and continuing HRT is just careening toward suicide
Stop drinking the Kool-aid and become a productive member of society
>>5472179
>tfw i have masculine eyes
>>5472212
please kill yourself already kayla
Hello from the future.
2016 is going ok so far.
How is everyone?
>>5472194
Relapsing is bad, lainanon.
And stop trying to start dumb memes about masculine eyes.
>>5472224
My thoughts on the new year
>>5472224
HELLO FUTURE
HERE PAST
DID I INTO GURL ?
>>5472208
My old friends talked me into working out once when I was like 17 but I just went with them to be nice, they were pretty strong.
>>5472228
How do I stop seeing a boy though? ;_;
>>5472183
11 tonight!!!
actually flying to edmonton is surprisingly cheap desu >____>;;;
>>5472231
cute
>>5472224
Is 2016 the shining future we all hoped for or is it just the same with a bigger number?
Happy new year mtfg,
thanks for being there every day,
thanks for the talks, the fun and the silly stuff,
thanks for cheering me up.
I will spend the next 4,5 hours till midnight alone, may go to bed early, and browse the internet just like every day. Thats what today is, just another day.
Don't ever change, 2016 is going to be your year.
>>5472236
>tfw that flight time looks familiar
Kira, are you actually serious?
>>5472234
You stop seeing a boy by becoming a man
Like you can just squat and shit and do some curls
Better than being a skinny limp wristed fag
>>5472255
Literally fuck off mate
>>5472255
I don't want to be a man.
>>5472234
You start seeing a boy less by making effort
>>5472254
m-mebbe .... >___> <___< >___> am I and idiot desu??
>>5472266
Kira I made plans with someone tonight ;____;
>>5472254
>700 round trip, return on Sunday
Maybe...
But I won't land by midnight :(
>>5472234
>How do I stop seeing a boy though?
do what I do and break mirrors
Not really been around for a few days after a nasty argument with my last remaining irl friend, but before midnight hits (GMT) I wanted to come and wish you all a happy new year, and I really do mean ALL of you, the nice trips, the bitchy trips, all the different anons too (chasers/trolling trips/trans who don't want rep). There are some of you I like, and some I don't, but in the last month or so you've all helped me more than you can ever imagine and for that, I love you all.
Lets hope 2016 is better for all of us <3
I hope you all have a good 2016
>>5472265
Effort doing what?
I dunno what I can do with my face anymore other than surgery.
>>5472273
p-pls
I feel like mirrors make me a bit more delusional and cameras really show reality
>>5472268
>>5472236
>>5472254
>>5472266
>>5472268
Hello people I want to suck someone's dick please reply to me
>>5472266
If you were 12 hours faster we could have shared a cab.
