Do any other bisexual guys notice that gay men are fucking lunatics?
I consider myself fully bi, in that I want to do gay shit with gay dudes and get ultra-gay sometimes. Fine, great, no problems so far. But I guess I'm "straight-acting" or whatever, because I seem to identify more with the "straight" culture of courtship and/or hookup culture.
What I mean is, whether I pursue a girl romantically or just hook up with her, it's after chatting and making a connection. We fundamentally talk to each other as human beings, on a normal human level, even if we're just going to fuck. Even though she's judging my every move, even though I'm seeing her as a piece of meat, even though it's pretty ugly in that sense, we're still at least TALKING to each other.
But gay men are immediately like this, right out of the gate:
>HEY bro! HOT ad! Super HOT! I'm touchin my HUGE ROD to your HOT AD! Let's FUCK ;) There's a HOT park near my condo ;^)))
I've been trying to put my finger on it for a while. It's not just that it's overly aggressive, which is what I thought at first. It's that it's actually fucking insane. Every goddamn message is like this, they're all eerily over-excited and sound like a bootleg gay porno from the 80s. What the fuck is happening?
Because you're probably hot and you scramble their homo brains
>>5461469
bi guy here.
i tend to agree. most gays i know are hypersexual. like all their interests and hobbies are somehow connected to their sexuality.
but then i also know some gay guys who lie low - they are not hypersexual. they are tempered, normal, boring but cool adults.
so yeah, i think hypersexual gay men are a phenomenon. but they don't represent everybody. maybe half the gay guys i know are like that.
>>5461469
Are you me? This has been jarring as fuck. I'm told you have sex first and then talk. Can't assimilate into this.
>>5461469
The answer is in your own post, op.
You've said so yourself. You see a girl like a piece of meat, but she's judging you so you have to "push the right buttons" in order to sleep with her.
When a guy hooks up with another guy, they are both seeing the other as a piece of meat. Of course, there is some judging, but not in the same level. As men, they both know that the other guy ultimately only wants to get off, so there's no point in judging anything else than the physical appareance of your guy.
Now, this sounds shallow as fuck, but then again so are hook ups. If you are looking for something more meaningful, and find another guy who is looking for that, then the chances of having an actual conversation increase.
Of course, a lot of relationships are born when you hookup with someone several times and during pillow talk you realize you like them. But not all of them.
Trust me, I've been trying to pursue something more serious with a guy for over a month. All we really do is talk. We haven't had sex and only kissed for the last time during our last date, after hanging out several times before.
>>5461518
gay monogamy effectively does not exist though, at least statistically
it's so goddamn rare that it's basically not a thing
As a hypersexual bisexual I'd like to say this isn't exclusive to gay men.
I didn't know the names of most of the guys I've been with.
>>5461557
HOT post bro, sick tight THICK post ! Gettin HOT just lookin at your SICK post bro !
>>5461564
Underrated schtick
>>5461527
That's a whole different thing, though. Many people, not only gays, are perfectly fine with open relationships.
Also I think it has to be taken into account that gay marriage is a very new thing. Most of the grown up gays were born in a world where being in a gay relationship was still frowned upon.
My guess is that in a couple of years gay monogamy won't be so rare, as more gays will be able to easily adjust into a more 'traditional' lifestyle.
>>5461469
Same thing gets to me bro. I'm a regular guy and I hate that dating guys is so much different than dating girls- I just want to fucking talk to a person a little, get to know them, etc before we jump to banging or whatever. I pretty much gave up on guys entirely because they're either such faggots or overly sexually aggressive rather than normal dudes that don't want to fuck five seconds after seeing you.
I thought bisexuals/str8s were supposed to be the slutty scum of the earth. Now the gay agenda truth comes out!
>>5461825
Bi guys seem to exist on a dichotomy- on the one hand you've got the manslores, on the other hand you've got the normal guys that happen to like both sides and are into monogamy and stuff. The former gets most of the reputation because the latter is too busy being monogamous, and half the time with a woman at that. Who's going to bitch about the bi guy with a steady relationship?
Gay men don't value the ritual of courtship. Seduction is a ritual, that, if it's not followed will bring misery and loneliness. The dynamic between women and men hooking up is fundamentally understood because you have to both prove yourselves.
Since homosexuality became an identity and through sexual liberation gay men just wanted to have all the sex they could, or rather lust, this in term leads to the overfocusing on apperance and creating more identities on apperance rather than on action. And what do gay men complain about? Not finding a loving partner, being alone, cheating...
>>5461917
>And what do gay men complain about? Not finding a loving partner, being alone, cheating...
tbf all the single people I know complain about that, whatever their sexual orientation is. Even a guy I know who says he's asexual complains about it.
>>5461469
Bi here
Its just ease of access and girls having to appear to themselves/society that they're not slags even when they obviously are.
Girls have to maintain the image that they won't just give it away or they lose their value.
Many guys just want to fuck and everyone knows that. Horny gay guys know they're gonna fuck 99% of the time within minutes
>>5461917
So basically gays are nice people but gay culture is cancer... filled with AIDS. Seems about right.
The only attractive guys that messaged me want to have conversations and form a boyfriend relationship.
What the fuck? I thought these apps were for hookups?
>>5462068
Maybe the decent biscum/str8s are the only attractive guys to you?
>>5461480
My little theory is that some gay men, the hypersexual ones, are compensating for something, perhaps a parent who slighted them for being gay, and act out by being totally and obsessively sexual as if to say "fuck you I do what I want." But also as a way to sort of come to terms or assert their desires in rebellion with norms that disapprove of them.
Another theory is that men are men, and that gives (attractive) men who have sex with men over to a kind of unhindered access to easy sex. They get overexcited by the casual sex that is available to them, and it starts to be something they shape their lives around, sort of as an escape and substitute for drugs. (Many pair drugs with this lifestyle.)
This of course says nothing about gay men as a species, as many don't conform to this trend and actively revolt against it for its shallowness and greasiness.
>>5461469
You find the hypersexuals on grinder/etc., and the norms aren't.
>>5461469
later tonight OP is going to start a thread whining about bisexual hate threads
>HEY bro! HOT ad! Super HOT! I'm touchin my HUGE ROD to your HOT AD! Let's FUCK ;) There's a HOT park near my condo ;^)))
You chase sluts and get sluts then act confused because you found the sluts you were looking for? You sure that you aren't the insane one?
>>5461469
>Do any other bisexual guys notice that gay men are fucking lunatics?
Of the 7 gay guys I know there was only one lunatic. And that was me.
>>5462805
Hey Reddit!
>>5461469
Yes. Bi guys are alright. More hetero guys who like their prostates played with are better. Gay's are self obsessed mentally wrong creatures.
>>5461480
I think the main issue is the dating pool for gay men is significantly smaller than the heterosexual one, which means that those who are in the gay dating pool kind of have to advertise it a bit more to even get noticed by another guy whose into that sorta thing.
you, OP, and I fall into this weird little realm of guys who just want to date a normal guy, but it's hard to find those because they aren't the type to advertise their homosexuality.
tl;dr you just gotta hunt 'em down
>>5465056
This.
Unfortunately I think Anon here's got it, and confirmed one of my worst fears that finding a guy in my area might actually be harder than what I originally thought.
>>5461469
Yep exactly! Gay and most of the gay people I know in my city in Victoria Australia are either criminally insane, hyper sexual or just flat out weird.
Every co conversation with a gay guy ive ever had always consists of "soo cute" "want my 6.5' cock in your ass?" "Cuddlez? :3" and then most bi or straight bi curious people I know are attractive as and completely normal. But I can never have those people.
Wish I was part of the bi master race senpai. :'(
>>5465056
Is there absolutely any venue for finding gay guys who are "normal but happen to be gay" types?
I can't think of a single one. I saw some "bicurious" guy on a dating site recently who seemed well-considered and self-aware and all that, and I messaged him a really detailed and thoughtful message that I thought was on the level with his profile, and he immediately replied with this crazy shit. WHERE ARE THEY HIDING
>>5465419
I was going to say weird is fun, but then I was hit with familiarity. Those conversations are verbatim. Not after a while of talking, but right away. I've known less forward she-hookers.
And being bi/str8 isn't that great.
Gay men are so fucking conflicted I'm amazed they don't all kill themselves.
>I'm bi but mostly in the closet
>hook up with other closeted-ish guys
>scared to interact in public
>as soon as we get in private they become desperate fucking freaks "I WANT TO FUCK YOUR LITTLE BOY BUTT TELL DADDY YOU LOVE HIM" type shit
>alternatively
>"Yeah I just want a bro to hang out with and jerk off, I appreciate big cocks, and just sucking dick doesn't make me gay, or letting you suck mine. And sex is just sex, it doesn't mean anything. Can i cum inside you please?"
>>5467567
Yup
Best way I've ever seen it described (I forget the source) was something like
>Craigslist is full of guys who want you to go over to their place and jerk each other off, but no gay stuff
>>5467576
I had a gym hook up one time, most in denial person I've ever met.
>jerking off together in the showers
>keeps moving closer to me until we're jerking off in front of each other
>I get down and start blowing him, really getting into it
>he hasn't finished after several minutes, he's asking if I want to get fucked, we're both showered and clean so why not
>he fucks me under the shower
>cums inside and everything
>exchange numbers
>calls me over a few days later
>hanging out, we drink a bit
>end up jerking him off, go to kiss
>"WHAT THE FUCK FAGGOT?"
>"You realize we've fucked before right?"
>"That's just releasing tension after a workout, I'm not a fucking faggot."
>>5461469
Bi male here, and I definitely agree. So many homosexual men seem hypersexual and interested in nothing other than sexual relationships, and even where there's a romantic aspect, it tends to be dysfunctional due to mental retardation (e.g. "I love you daddy...please pound your little boi's pu$$i").
>>5467567
>dating repressed people
>getting surprised when they go crazy when they finally get an outlet
dem gays amirite
>>5463322
>le reddit meme XDD
>>5467667
Iktf. Even though that kind of dirty talk does it for me in small doses. Like, not at Applebee's, ya know.
>>5467522
They're hard to find.... unless you advertise the shit out of your homosexuality. therein lies the issue.
I found a few such guys, but I did it by asking out almost every cute guy I met. I've stopped doing that, but it's what kinda brought the issue to my attention.
My suggestion: talk to your friends. let them know what the issue is, and if they know any cute, gay guys who aren't over the top gay.
>>5461469
>Even though she's judging my every move, even though I'm seeing her as a piece of meat,
>gay men are fucking lunatics
Seems to me like you ought to worry about your own weird bullshit before you go trying to diagnose gay men.
That's because they freak out when realise bisexuality exists and a man can like other men without being a fag, then they just go full denial on this and consider you a not self discovered gay.
The same happens to not stereotyped gays. The stereotyped ones get so frustrated they have tons of excuses like "you are a victim of patriarchy" and shit like this and drop out all the be yourself arguments used to defend themselves.
People are different. They've gotta fucking accept that.
