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Last >>5421054
Hey bitches
>>5422192
hey mangie
I'm starting hormones in the next month, still kind of scared, even though I know it's the right decision. At least I know I'll be able to pass in a few months, just need to work on my voice. :^)
also, anyone /mu/ here?
>tfw they don't look like moobs anymore
feels great but fuck now I've got to start hiding them from my parents every day, summer's gonna be 'fun'...
ayy I just got back from seeing star wars
>tfw have intense dysphoria about my forehead and then calculating the height percentage of the face female foreheads take up and then averaging a bunch of pictures together to create an average female forehead index
>tfw my forehead is below the average female forehead index for women who look normal but have relatively high forheads
>tfw mathematically eliminating dysphoria
>>5422503
So what did you find? What is the average female forehead size?
>>5422519
from 10 pictures that are straight on/very close to straight on the average index is 0.3205. it seems like depending on the face (from what i can tell anything over the average looking good is dependent on the length of the face and height of the eyebrows), anything up to 0.35 can look normal but anything over that is strictly male territory.
its not anything exact but it gives a good metric. mine came out to be 0.316 and everyone says it looks just fine but im retarded
>>5422530
Hmm. I'm suddenly interested in measuring my forehead.
>>5422530
Huh. This is interesting. My forehead ratio comes out to be about .3125. Which is weird because I have a fairly long forehead.
>>5422601
makes sense. that index isnt for all females but for females that had large foreheads but still looked normal to me. youre close to the average so your fairly large forehead isnt necessarily un-female in height, just not small.
>>5422621
That's what I was thinking. I would be interested to see what kind of ratio women with small/average foreheads have.
>>5422627
maybe ill make a chart in a few days
>>5422629
That could be interesting. I'm sure you would get a lot of trans girls measuring their foreheads.
>tfw no mtfg sleepover
>>5422681
It really just comes of as an insult against a typical male insecurity, all it does is serve to remind me I'm not a girl.
>>5422706
is there any explanation for Vivian being a lesbian or is it just someones "headcanon"?
Post your cute voice again Kiwi.
>>5422697
Why is everyone molesting kit?
>>5422727
it's not that cute
just look it up in the archive
Anything exciting happen here this weekend? I was too busy gayming to shitpost.
>>5422732
Hi welcome to mtfg. Since you're new here, any transition questions we can help with?
>>5422743
>implying i'm new
>>5422735
I want to hear something new you precious dove.
>>5422746
look at this convo and tell me it's not awkward as heck though
12:10 AM - me: i have a morning shift tomorrow
12:11 AM - him: butts :c are you gonna go to bed early, then?
12:11 AM - me: mayhaps
12:11 AM - him: i guess the positive of having a morning shift is that you get off earlier, i think
12:18 AM - him: anyway, any things to tlak aboot?
12:18 AM - me: nope nothing really
12:18 AM - him: mm, das fine. i haven't done anything interesting lately
12:20 AM - him: what're you up to now? c:
12:20 AM - kiwi: still nothing
12:21 AM - him: ohkay lol
12:27 AM - him: soooo anything interesting??
12:29 AM - him: uhm..you there?
>>5422751
m-maybe later tonight i'll get my mic out again
>>5422757
why do you respond?
>>5422757
He wants the booty.
>>5422757
Honestly, I'd just block him. It's mean but it's the only answer.
>>5422759
honestly i guess i just like having someone to bother me, i just wish it wasn't this guy
>>5422776
yea i guess i'll just block him, it's mean but he's so creepy ;~;
>>5422697
>tfw you probably wouldnt be invited bc unpopular
:T
>>5422781
that's just pathetic honestly
>>5422782
We'll have our own party
>>5422697
This is borderline creepy
>>5422787
with blackjack and hookers right?
Post Spats!
>>5422781
Yeah, I mean it sucks, but sometimes you just have to do it. I don't take any joy in the deed but have to do it once in a while.
>>5422795
Oh
I think I'm too poor to avoid hookers ;~;
>>5422796
post bats
>>5422806
no one likes you
>>5422798
i waited like 20 minutes to delete him and then he sent me a friend request within the minute, what the hell
now he's blocked
>>5422809
but i like gem
Should I shower or keep browsing /mtfg/?
>>5422809
thats cool
>>5422817
Kiwi got a stalker?
>>5422833
take a shower and then browse mtfg while you're drying your hair and whatever else you do for your routine
>>5422833
Invite someone from mtfg into your shower.
so what are you listening to tonight/today /mtfg/?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsax4Akbaqg
i really really love this remix
>>5422836
it feels like a weight is off my shoulders now
>>5422840
i hope he doesn't stalk me now ;~; that would be scary
>>5422847
>so what are you listening to tonight/today /mtfg/?
the screaming voices of my regrets and mistakes
>>5422847
Guest mix at 1:06
https://soundcloud.com/john00fleming/john-00-fleming-global-trance-grooves-150-daniel-lesden
>>5422850
Do they have a bandcamp? ;~;
>>5422855
no they live in my head
>>5422364
good luck senpai
>tfw not /mu/ but still pretty patrician
>>5422697
>bexe -> elanna -> kit -> undefined reference
pretty accurate
>>5422850
;~; you should listen to music, it always helps clear my mind and drown out the voices
>>5422855
unce unce unce!
>>5422862
>justice - cross
what's your favorite song on the album? my favorites are genesis, newjack, stress
>>5422867
nah i'm lonely anyway
>>5422867
>genesis
nice
genesis, valentine, and one minute to midnight
>new jack
tied with DVNO as the worst song on the album desu
>>5422867
>unce unce unce!
>tfw psytrance is dead
Afternoon /mtfg/ how is everyone!?
>>5422880
>newjack tied with DVNO as the worst song on the album
take that back ;~; the groove in that song is so unf
well everyone can't have the same music tastes so i forgive you bexe-chan
>>5422886
Bored desu
>>5422888
the groove is pretty damn good but the vocals i just can't get over, sorry ;_;
we can still be friends
The realization that Christmas is in 4 days and I'm going to be all alone is setting in and it really sucks.
>>5422894
>tfw going to be with family but it's going to magnify the biggest hole in my heart
>>5422894
yeh iktf basiclly ... worst is even if I can travel anywhere there is nobody on earth that wants me over lol
>>5422903
Come have xmas with me ;_;
>>5422894
I'd spend christmas with you maddie
>tfw /mtfg/ will never have a Christmas get together.
mtfg group christmas sleepover when for all us alones? ;~;
>>5422906
Thanks anon <3
>>5422884
do you like hardcore?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUDUSQ31Tbo
>>5422886
ohayou!
i'm visiting my aunt for christmas eve and she was really accepting about my brother coming out so i'm hoping maybe i can come out to her, it would be nice to have family i can rely on
>>5422921
Come out to her using your cute voice.
>>5422927
pls my girl voice isn't even that good yet
>>5422929
It was good enough to jerk off to bb
>>5422932
creepy desu
>>5422933
license pictures are almost always garbage but I'll be honest yours looks fine Shan
>>5422921
>>5422921
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUDUSQ31Tbo
Noice
I don't actively seek out hardcore, but I do really enjoy it. There was never much of a scene here for it though, makes me sad ;~;
I prefer hard techno but there's just none of it on this continent period
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePOAaRFglzA
>>5422935
Dont act like you're not flattered.
>>5422933
Congrats Sheen!
You look good in the pic too.
No gender on wa ones for some reason.
>>5422933
yay congrats sheen!
that reminds me i need to renew my license ;~; ugh
>>5422929
Better than me
all I can do is light voice shit impression.
>>5422933
better pic than mine on my licence, I'm actually rlly un-photogenic
tbqh it sometimes seems like ur edging into the territory of denying how much progress u've made and how well u pass
Hello mtfg! What's up? ^-^
>>5422933
good on ya m8
>>5422894
Did you come out your family yet?
>>5422956
Booooooorrrrrrrreeeeeeedddddddddd
>>5422941
>tfw your butt eats your panties
send help senpai
>>5422964
Well that's unfortunate :(
>>5422913
Someone do the trip names thing
>>5422956
mentally bracing myself for intense lonely christmas feels
how's work and stuff?
hahaha, this is terrible, shaving my head and giving up was absolutely the right course of action. thank god the holidays are nearly over so i can neck myself
https://unsee.
cc/zanegisu/
>>5422992
lose weight and trim your eyebrows and you'll be potentially cute
>>5422986
You live alone? Uhh I'm OK. Finally got an off day today after working 6 days in a row. I ended up skipping church since it takes up like half the fucking day on Sundays (wake up for 8, get there at 10 and the servixr lasts from 11 - 1 and I get back home around 2). I just spent today sleeping and cleaning up my room a bit.
In between that I've been playing the heck outta Persona DAN
>>5422992
Are you wearing a wig?
Either way, trim those brows and give yourself a more flattering hairstyle and you stand a fighting chance.
>>5422998
>"A woman must not wear men's clothing, nor a man wear women's clothing, for the Lord your God detests anyone who does this." - Deuteronomy 22:5
retard
>>5422994
nah nigga they need FFS
>>5422941
>this gif
>>5423004
but we are women
at worst we are eunuchs
>>5423006
>tfw ur about to get up to that sort'a lewdness
>>5423011
>tfw no lewdness ever
>>5423005
not really her nose is a bit large and male shaped so yeah getting that fixed,get an implant in her upper lip to make it thicker and dermal fillers in her acne scars as well as trimming her brows and she could be really cute
>>5423004
Lol that's Old Testament m8. Also that was rules specifically for the Levites under the old covenant. As if 2015 were under an entirely new covenant and no longer under the law if the OT.
FYI, I study the Bible academically along with attending church weekly and hosting a bible study ihr of my home, so I highly doubt you'd understand it in its proper context. The fact that you're throwing around that outdated scrupitue to try and make a point pretty much prices giw little you *actually* know about the bible or having faith xD
>>5422992
Some Cis women have to rely on wigs too
Tfw I will too if that day comes
who do you think is the more [physically] passing tgirl ?
pic relatered
>>5422913
>>5422982
How'd I do?
>>5423013
It would help to not be a creepy virgin. You're the kind of person who makes me pull my skirt taut when Im walking up stairs.
>>5423025
Am I harassing Jormy?
>>5423019
>muh context
Not even gonna touch this one.
>>5423004
reminder that technically the bible is entirely the word of false prophets and all that really matters is the love in your heart spilling out from the fractal godhead
>>5423025
W-what is kuppy doing?
>>5423038
What do you expect from a christian in 2015
And to think he mentions "relevance" unironically
>>5423025
I wish there were more brown girls in anime : (
>>5423038
Its not snide if its true lol. You wouldn't believe how many self proclaimed intellectuals get the bible wrong and cherry pick things out of context to fit w/e argument they're making at the time.
But I'm too tired to get into a theological debate rn, believe what you want it doesn't affect me in any way
>>5423027
>implying I act the same way irl as I do on this shitposting general
just ask plant, she'll tell you irl I'm shy as fuck and generally can't even talk to people unless they talk to me first and I pretty much can't even look at people.
>>5423041
Not in that way >_<
>>5422994
>you'll be potentially cute
nah
>>5423003
>Are you wearing a wig?
yeah. i'd been growing my hair out for a couple of years but i'm pretty bald so i shaved it all off a few months ago
i know the brows need doing but i gave up on maintaining that kind of stuff when i shaved my head.
don't really know what would be a more flattering style or how much i can really do with this wig anyway
>>5423005
>they need FFS
yep
>>5423024
Did you mean to post a picture of two people?
>>5423043
Lol yeah a christian would never cherry-pick to prove a point about their stupid outdated desert tales. Im glad youre too tired to argue it. Arguing with christians is the equivalent of sniffing glue if you measure its value in net brain-cells gained/lost.
>>5423024
Great job anon, good to know there's people out there that save our (and Sam's) pics off our Facebooks
>>5423025
My only suggestion would have been milly with the bunny ears, but I think you did good ^^
>>5423025
this is like all wrong and only sorta has one relationship right lol
>>5423025
kit -> elanna
elanna -> kit
maddie -> bexe
bexe -> kitcrushanon
>>5423050
go to a wig shop and they should be able to help with style and realism
>>5422992
I think I bought that same wig (from Amazon)
>>5423063
like almost everything
it's not like ppl keep their secrets very secret but there are at least 4 things going on that I'm not sure any anon has picked up on yet cos they circlejerk over imaginary pairings lol >.>;;
>>5423013
it's not too hard to find lewdness if u rlly try depending on ur standards but basic fucking and stuff an't rlly equal to a real connection and compatible dynamic
>>5423027
the only reason virgins are sometimes creepy for being virgins is cus they don't realize how not-a-big-thing sex is so they come to messed up conclusions from putting too much significance on sex, I'd blame media and a lack of proper sex-ed
>>5423075
Anons are literally always wrong lol. Its not even worth it to acknowledge the large majority of their posts desu
got high and (badly) drew hearts on my nipples. should I get them tattooed, y/y?
>>5423079
w-well I wouldn't go that far but yeh it seems hard to be that wrong sometimes >.>;;
>>5423024
physically or facially?
Facially like an 9/10
Physically(her body)...~22 inch shoulders and no tits no ass havin' stoner/10 desu senpai
>>5423080
Id recommend not considering 20 years from now theyre just gonna be blobs making you look deformed
>>5423080
the one on the right looks good if they both looked like that and you don't expect your boobs to grow more I would do it with you
>>5423080
thats my fetish
thanks for ruining it
>>5423089
>you do probably need FFS, but I do believe that you have a fighting chance
"you have a fighting chance, you just need tens of thousands of dollars worth of surgery for it"
lmao, this is exactly why transition is a bullshit meme
>>5423086
: 3
>>5423100
lilly u meanie, what are u doing today???
I got rune factory and I'm a princess and making a farm and my lesbian waifu is a sleepy girl butler >////>;;;
Am i a virgin if Ive never had buttsecks with a man but have had sex with ~40 women but am only interested in buttsecks with men now?
>>5423097
Fighting chance as in: with considerable effort, and with a carefully picked presentation, you could pass well enough to earn the money required for FFS
That's what I'm saying.
>>5423057
oh, who are you ?
>>5423087
fuckin lol
>"your boobs look like you're wearing a bra"
>tfw your boobs are somehow getting bigger according to your gf
>>5423121
aren't you taking like three times the estrogen that you were + lactation drugs + progesterone now?
>>5423116
I'm just a trip posting as anon, no worries tqbh
Hey peoples.
#swag
>>5423107
I've been playing civilization 5, such a long game but fun since I'm playing with my friend : 3
I wanna be a princess.. I can only be the queen of Spain atm tho
>>5423124
yes
>>5423128
can't tell if I'm still gay or straight now, meh
https://clyp.it/gn02v0kh
rate my girl voice, pretty much no practice was put into this.
That's awesome. Congrats!
>>5423130
so like... I guess they're working?
I started on progesterone last week and my boobs have been having pains and stuff and like they haven't done this since the first couple months on hrt but idk if that means they're growing
>>5423129
>princess of spain
ewww, pic related
>>5423140
that means they're growing or you're about to have a stroke
>>5423129
o-oh... u and ur friend sure do everything together lately
>tfw nobody to play games with
at least I'm a princess and have a farm tho ;~;
>>5423135
still gay as fuck
>>5423114
Going through all of that doesnt sound very appealing when I could just spend one afternoon hanging myself and have it all be over desu
>>5423142
either way I win
>>5423121
No wonder most trannies barely grow boobs, there's a small group of you hoarding them all to yourselves
>>5423146
I'm okay with this
>>5423136
No one?
>>5423147
But the difference between going through that and spending an afternoon hanging yourself is that you can at least experience the period after you go through with that, and you can experience that you actually succeeded at it. When you die, you don't experience any of that. You won't even know you're dead.
>>5422164
these editions are not very nice :(
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1pyOKCaBWWf
>>5423173
https://clyp.it/4uppegnh
made it :^)
>>5423170
uuu-uuuuuhhh .... hmmm ... r-right >////>;;
>>5423154
the secret is to sleep next to nude natal women and absorb their boob power
works better if they suck and fondle yours
>>5423178
lmao
>>5423191
you sound british here desu
http://www.people.com/article/female-ranger-school-graduation-planned-advance
jeezzzzz I knew they redid the course twice (totally ok), but literally failing three times at conducting a patrol after seeing the whole course (which is supposed to be a surprise when you see it) for two months straight with one of the best rangers to ever live as your trainer....... it's just too much desu
context: most male officers are allowed to fail once, possibly twice if they're needed to fill a position. No male soldier has been allowed to have 5 total failures in the history of the Ranger regiment.
>>5423179
To the opium den?
>>5423179
what did you do?
>>5423181
I mean anime waifu, my friend stole her, I still have my anime husbando tho
don't judge me I know stuff lol
nini mtfg
>>5423193
I'm not a pommy
>>5423203
Good night Elanna
>>5423203
night elanna, we still have to play smash
>>5423194
my friend wants to be a police woman ^__^
>>5422960
Yeah, that's why i can't go home this year.
>>5423229
how did they take it?
>>5422894
._.
>>5423218
kuroko from scientific railgun ;~;
>>5423231
My mom is coming around. She was incredibly unsupportive initially and kind of in shock but she sent me some jewelry for my birthday and a nightgown. She still doesn't want to see what I look like now tho and won't call me Maddie. Rest of senpai is doing ok, my sisters have been pretty great after some initial rockiness but they live too far away and I can't afford to travel this year. Idk my friends were out of town for my birthday so I spent that alone and now I'm alone for Xmas too and it's never been this way before and I don't function well without people and feel kind of unloved this year. I had friends make halfhearted plans to invite me to Christmas but they flaked out and I'm just alone now.
>>5423025
I love this
I have a crush on my cute trans friend, how do I tell her without coming off as a chaser/weirdo?
>>5423242
kidnap her and tie her up while you read her poems you wrote about her feet
>>5423242
get drunk together
>>5423204
>feeling dysphoric at all
get gud at transitioning
>>5423255
why do you post this image so much? such an ugly expression, and it rarely even portrays relevant emotion to your posts.
>>5423255
Can you please go back to /TLG/ you're annoying
>>5423259
because I can
>>5423260
no
>>5423238
w-wah... what do u mean she stole her??? is it the same friend I'm thinking of?? >.>;;
>>5423262
Nobody wants your smug lesbo hon ass here so continue to embarrass yourself
>>5423255
>pretending you are trans and exploiting palative care just so you can trick lesbians into having sex with you
>>5423264
I will
thanks <3
>>5423265
what ?
>>5423263
nah she's not, other friend, the hurts still there.. il have to turn our friend into an animu then i can have her both ways ;3
>>5423272
no lilly, no!! bad, she's been my friend way longer, also I'm pretty sure she's already an animu desu
having a waifu stolen sucks, but lets face it granma voice loli is a fetishists waifu >.>;;
Tfw I wake up at 3 am
>>5423271
>that hairstyle
Why do people do that?
>>5423285
lesbians think that by dressing like men and gaining 200lbs they repel men who would rape them by talking to them
>>5423280
y-yeah but we are closer!!
she just told me that I can think of her as my anime waifu ^~^
>>5423285
idk personally I prefer something like pic related
>>5423287
>muh generalization
>>5423291
why do you dress like a man then?
>>5423292
do I ?
I just wear whatever I find comfortable and fast
>>5423300
if that were true you would wear jeans but instead you wear the same shit you used to wear as a neckbeard
>>5423302
*wouldn't wear jeans
>>5423289
wah I'm a lil jello desu
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1Yxt2wVhesx
i need more practice
>>5423309
your voice sounds okay but yeah practice can't hurt
>>5423309
I like it. Much better than mine
>>5423302
pre hrt : wore what was comfortable
now : wearing whatever is comfortable and looks good
fail to see your "point"
>>5423316
and you just happen to be dressed like a guy
pure coincidence
i'm being nice this time, merry christmas!
>>5423320
yoga pants and sportsbra is such a manly attire
>>5423291
I like this kind of hair more
>>5423321
pic of elf is really old, she's way prettier desu
>>5423309
I think your voice is not too terrible
how much have you been practicing
>>5423327
i don't have it, unless you want to link it so i can update it
>>5423331
like um maybe a month on and off
on the way to and home from work and late at night mostly
>>5423333
I still haven't heard your normie voice
>>5423332
nah this is kinda weird desu >.>
>>5423325
looks good
i just have a thing for short hair
but long hair would be nice sometimes
>>5423335
she looks good enough there, don't worry about it
merry christmas mtfg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUMzIKCPFtM
Why are nearly all mtf autistic as fuck?
>>5423342
idk ask your therapist
>>5423344
Uh sorry i did not mean to trigger you. This is a genuine question. Nearly all i have meet are obsessed with LoL, drugs and anime. Its like if /r9k/ pretty much all became mtf. Can some one please put some light onto this situation
>>5423345
stop talking to weebs and weird videogame freaks
there, problem solved
>>5423345
They are failed men.
Failed men are into failed hobbies.
>>5423345
Since when was liking drugs autistic? I'm not going to be super insulted if it is, I've just never heard someone say that before. I looooove psychs.
>>5423345
What do they all have in common? That's right, talking to you. Maybe you're just so incomprehensibly stupid that you make the people around you autistic.
>>5423348
Yes i have tried this. But the problem that no matter were i have gone in the MTF community its tumblr mtf or autistic mtf. Their seems to be atleast in my own experience that their is no mtf that is a normal girl.
>>5423356
then you seem to attract autism
What's a good board to obsessivly autistically shitpost on?
Something like lgbt with no moderation.
One that doesn't like shitposting on it either.
Cooking?
I've been trashing lgbt for about 6 months and im bored of it.
>>5423362
/int/
>>5423354
Well i did not say that using drugs was autistic. I just stated that a lot of them i have meet do drugs a lot. Its a combination of these things that have brought me to this pattern i keep noticing.
>>5423355
I am sorry if i have triggered you please i have the most respect toward transgender people i just noticed this pattern and i have noticed that its either their R9K autism level or they are tumblr level of stupidity. I was asking for you to state why is this so or why it is not so. Not to spew your own personal triggered emotions over me.
>>5423365
They already hate me on there. Id have to change my gimmick up. Im permabanned there.
That place likes shitposting and has rampant mods.
>>5423361
No no no this is not me attracting them to me this is me going into their cliques and their groups and i have done this heaps of times and this is what i have came to. This is a pattern in these groups that i have noticed not my own personal 1on1 experience with the mtf community
today my orchiectomy has taught me that wearing diapers is actually kinda fun and I hate myself for admitting that
>>5423380
Soc would actually be a good one...ive never tried it before...
Ck maybe...
>>5423321
significantly less cute this way.
Name a trip and a christmas gift appropiate for them.
Tfw came out to best friend but it's 6 and he won't be awake until l like 3 in the afternoon. Trying not to delete the message...
>>5423400
Really anon? I think it's more cute.
>>5423402
Dollface
Paper bag
>>5422503
my ratio is lower, but pic don't lie
my big forehead is noticeable
