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>>5388632
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>>5390222
Going to war?

>>5390225
Going on holiday?

>>5390228
I'm sure I can wrangle you an elf
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>>5390195
I know all that you dummy, I even said if you don't want to post it here don't or just write it out in a word doc to yourself.

>>5390219
I hope he brings me a rhinoplasty and a bf.
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>>5390222
>what did you do ?
got tied up and stuff
>wat.jpg
I don't have anything against traditions and holidays as such, I'd rather not associate them with religion though.
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>>5390236
Have you been naughty or nice.
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>>5390219
electrolysis

Saw my dr, she was like "oh hey want a Rx for dutasteride while you're here? it lowers DHT instead of T"

do i want that? i said i'd google it.
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>>5390229
how ?
pro tip : exploit the transmen problem of society thinking everything with tits or a female voice that has short hair is female
>>5390233
sword as is sword
not as in schmeckel you weirdo
>>5390228
it isn't
>>5390235
no I just like HEMA
>>5390237
>got tied up and stuff
lewd :o
>I don't have anything against traditions and holidays as such, I'd rather not associate them with religion though.
nobody I know ties them with religions
maybe saturnalias at best but that's just me being sub for gf during that time
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>>5390238
I am always nice.
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>>5390227
You're probably right senpai, considering I'd end up doing a decent amount of Bed-Stuy deliveries.
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>>5390240
>this coming from Lalalily
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>>5390240
>lewd :o
mhm
>nobody I know ties them with religions
I guess, I just try to avoid vocabulary with a religious touch to it.
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>>5390245
maybe he'll have something just perfect for you
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>>5390232
I know, but what I'm saying is that knowing there are people in your life that care and want to see you improve has a far deeper and longer lasting effect than any drug does. They may not be able to help, but they can be there throughout. Food for thought, it hurts to see people making the same mistakes I did.
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>>5390240
What kind of sword?
Will you look dress up like this with it?
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>>5390239
What AA are you on right now?

>>5390240
You can have a sword if you promise me there'll be no beheading or stabbings.
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>>5390261
cypro
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>>5390264
Cypro's pretty great, if it's working for you I wouldn't switch.
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>>5390250
>mhm
details we demand them
>words
ah fair enough
i don't mind it
>>5390247
>replies to a post with multiple replies
>doesn't specify what he means
good one
>>5390256
eww no
more like pic related
>>5390261
lol
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>>5390268
Santa
For christmas can I be a girl this year? I won't ask for anything else.
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>>5390261
Will you give me your dick?
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>>5390268
naah i like cypro i wouldnt switch i think she meant add duta on top
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>>5390271
he? Check yourself.
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>>5390273
Wishing is waste of time
Doing isn't
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Do you even lift?
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>>5390277
please, every anon here is just a chaser or a crossdressing dude
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>>5390273
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OrWQOHkEgQ
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I don't think I will ever be able to socially transition. I waited too long and I can't bring myself to be girly around people. That coupled with my horrid man face and i am left with thinking all this year was just a waste and only put my imminent suicide on hold.
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>>5390273
You're already a girl Kuppy,

>>5390274
No, I'm trans. I'm transanta.

>>5390275
Then take it, better to have it in you doing something.
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>>5390268
Santa, for Christmas I really want a boyfriend.
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>>5390284
.........you really think men hang out in mtfg really early like 6am?
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>>5390277
anons are neither male nor female to me
I randomly pic pronouns depending on what is faster to type
don't like it ? get a trip
>>5390286
it's ok miss cock
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>>5390236
>just write it out in a word doc to yourself.
Just thinking about my problems kills me inside, I'd rather not.
>>5390254
I appreciate the concern Elanna but until you walk a mile in my shoes you're never going to understand why I am like I am and why I dont want help, so just let it rest.

I'm going AFK now.
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>>5390286
why dont you post some of your timelines, that usually cheers you up.
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>>5390295
its just not working, some people can transition and some people are too masculine, I am the later
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>>5390286
Kayla don't be a fucking retard
what the hell is being 'girly' around people?
If you're on about learning mannerisms and stuff you've just got to make a conscious effort you will get it in time
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>>5390292
Im not a trip yet.

let me work on my histrionic disorder a bit first
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>>5390288
Not a real one ;~;

>>5390286
From what I've seen of you, your face isn't that masculine
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>>5390289
I'm sorry we're all out
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>>5390286
yeah that's right, you ugly gross crossdressing fetishist

just leave already
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>>5390293
If you keep bottling them up the feeling is only going to get worse.

Worst case scenario of doing it: You waste a little bit of your time.
Possible benefits of doing it: You might feel better tomorrow.
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>>5390301
>If you're on about learning mannerisms and stuff you've just got to make a conscious effort you will get it in time
I don't pass though so I can't practice anything. Maybe being stuck with my parents is making me feel this way but I am not permitted to do anything feminine except for my room.
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>>5390289
Would you accept a tranny that is detransitioning?
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>>5390306
You're real Kuppy. Don't question Santa or Santa will get mad.
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>>5390286
>to be girly around people.
stop sounding like a typical 50 year old AGP fetishist faggot
reeee
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>>5390312
as long as they still have little boobs i can play with and shave their legs and look cute and stuff

if they were like "i discovered im actually a daddy bear..."
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>>5390312
>detrans
Why?
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>>5390301
it means he is too preoccupied with playing dressup and is disappointed because no one will ever see him as a woman and only as a gross confused dude he is
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>>5390316
You're getting coal.
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>>5390313
What will santa get for me this year? I've been, moderately good at least.
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>>5390307
Santa funny
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>>5390303
lol then don't complain xir
>>5390314
kayla the living proof that agp isn't tied to sexual orientation
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>>5390293
>posting anime girls as your reaction images
just transition already, nigga
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>>5390319
You're going on the nasty list.
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>>5390310
You literally said you were gendered Miss at home fucking depot the other day
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>>5390271
>details we demand them
can tell you in skype later if you want ^^, still at work
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>>5390319
I'm sending Krampus to visit you.

>>5390321
How about moderate breast growth?
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>miss cock having second doubts about his lifestyle choices
ahahahahahahahaha
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>>5390323
how rebellious. you must be a real handful for your parents.
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Should I get bangs? or get short hair like lily
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>>5390310
You underestimate yourself, you've said in the past even when trying to detransition you use feminine mannerisms. I believe in you.
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>>5390293
Bye for now cartman, just remember that nothing is impossible. I don't know what your problems are, but I can assure you everyone has a long list of them and eventually finds an effective way to cope.

>>5390312
Depends on the reason for detransing. If due to circumstances then I'd rather be a supportive friend and get you back on the right track, but if due to being cis, absolutely.

>>5390307
Oh ;~; do you have any girlfriends left?
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>>5390326
>The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood. Only an autistic fool would take anything posted here as fact.
remember that kayla is a passionate fiction story teller like e.l. james
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>>5390337
AGPs get nothing.
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>>5390334
get it short like lily
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>>5390338
kek
Regardless of if it is fact or fiction, if she's going to come her and whine she needs to be a bit consistent.
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>>5390326
yeah but like that is so few and far between
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>>5390334
Grow it longer.
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>>5390345
And how often do you actually go out the house in some sort of girlmode?
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>>5390333
did you have to think long for this comeback ?
what do you suggest in regards to gendering anons then ?
>>5390334
short hair is best hair if you wanna easy pass and have an easy time showering and maintaining
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>>5390341
That's not really in the spirit of the season ;~;
I'm not even agp
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>>5390329
Can I get hormones?
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>>5390348
It's currently mid-back length, no bangs.
>>5390351
Yeah I was thinking about it, maybe even one of those cute undercuts I see on /fa/
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>>5390348
Santa you never told me if I'm getting a rhinoplasty and/or a bf.
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>>5390341
not even new rainbow socks?

wow rude
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>>5390337
I'll sneak to Canadia and be ur gf senpai
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Whats agp?
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>>5390354
humbug!

>>5390355
I'll give you the confidence to buy them

>>5390359
Santa was distracted, one of the elves fell into some machinery. I'm giving you the gift of accepting your nose.

>>5390360
I'll give you aids if you keep this up
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hail santa
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>>5390384
Damn straight.
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where in Canada do you live
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>>5390382
>santa wants to give me his aids
o-oh gosh
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>>5390382
give me something that can make me shorter please
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>>5390382
I need more than confidence desu
there are a few things that I need to get before I can acquire them
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>>5390382
No, I don't want that, if at least not the rhinoplasty give the bf. pls.
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>>5390368
But I'm so old ;~;

>>5390382
W-will you bring me someone to cuddle if you can't bring a gf or a bf?
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>>5390404
how old we talking
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>santa will never stuff his candy cane inside you
why live
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>>5390368
Omg I just opened the image kuppy you're too nice to me ;~;
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>>5390350
rarely
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>>5390404
oh come on
you're not too old
besides I can be useful
I can do hugs, cuddles and when you are away I can clean the house and shit.

>>5390410
^~^
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>>5390408
I'm 24
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>>5390416
Then how do you expect to be gendered female?
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>>5390390
I'll travel back in time and give you polio

>>5390391
What do you need?

>>5390393
Too late it's shipped

>>5390404
Cuddly toy is in he mail
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>>5390421
>24
>so old
then what am I ;~;
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>>5390421
That's not that old!
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>>5390424
Cash, credit card and PO box

>>5390426
A fossil
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>>5390433
Do I look like a bank?
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>>5390421
>tfw older that elanna and I'm not even on HRT yet
hon4lyfe.
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>>5390433
rood 2bh
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>>5390440
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>>5390433
>A fossil
>tfw at least important for science
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>>5390423
I dunno, everyone here who passes said they do boy mode till people just auto assume they are girls and then they switch over
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>>5390289
me too ;~;
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>>5390445
wanna cry together?
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>>5390438
I-I'm just listing what I need
You don't have to get it for me, I can get it on my own.
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>>5390450
>everyone here who passes said
stop rewriting shit to fit your narrative
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>>5390451
If I could make boyfriends do you think I'd be doing this shtick

>>5390455
Santa apologises
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>>5390453
ok
;_;
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>>5390450
like who???
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>>5390460
I'm sorry santa

c-can i get sunglasses instead?
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>>5390464
Sure, what make?
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>>5390463
faye for starters, rawr, angie, and a few others
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>>5390468
cute ones i guess ><
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>>5390460
Kuppy forgives
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hey santa, get me this for cribmas
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>>5390451
Why don't you ask for a girlfriend instead? That might work.
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>>5390471
according to them they don't pass, also have u seen some of their boymodes????

do u know what fishing for compliments means???

js kayla a tranny thread on 4chan ain't real life
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>>5390450
Some people here come in and be like oh boy mode failed, but either way they're still further along than you are.
Make it your resolution for 2k16, go out more in girl mode and see how many more people with gender you miss
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>>5390475
Your ginger though it wouldn't work
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>>5390475
Loading it onto the sleigh as we speak.
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>>5390479
>a tranny thread on 4chan ain't real life
I guess not, but its all i got to go by because the only trans people i can meet irl are 50 year old hons.

>>5390481
...I know
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>>5390488
well isn't that a good thing??

it means ur ahead of the curve
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>>5390493
>it means ur ahead of the curve
but I am behind almost everyone here progress wise
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>>5390495
How long have you been on hrt now?
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>>5390501
almost 11 months
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>>5390419
You make a convincing argument, that would be amazing.

>>5390424
Thanks Santa, I needed a body pillow ;~;

>>5390426
Old is a relative term, I'm saying that I'm pretty old for kuppy.

>>5390431
It feels like it when you're still at home and at school

>>5390440
It's never too late j.me
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>>5390502
Post a timeline pls

>>5390504
It would
but I'm stuck in this shithole
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>>5390508
I didn't really make a real one. No need, since I look the same
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>>5390508
Ayy I'm stuck in a shithole too. Let's escape together.
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>>5390514
>This meme
I doubt it, it is probably dysphoria fucking with your perception
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>>5390516
>it is probably dysphoria fucking with your perception
naw, I know what would make me passing or not
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>>5390515
Escape where though?
I'm willing to go anywhere that is in the Western World, anywhere else and I'll worry about being beaten to death.
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>>5390502
There's no rush to go full time, starting hormones is the only thing that's time sensitive, and you're ahead of a lot of people here who haven't even started. You should feel like you've accomplished something right now rather than you haven't done enough, you'll have more time than you'll know what to do with when you start talking to doctors.

>>5390504
Santa doesn't indulge weeaboos, you'll have to squeeze a regular pillow like everybody else.
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Good morning mtfg!!!!

>>5390508
>>5390515
escape plan when
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>>5390525
I dunno, I see people going full time at like 4 months hrt and its killing me. Even fucking madison of all people is getting cock and here I am stuck as a man.
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>>5390495
Which, and I hate to get you down, is your own fault for stalling it so long.
Make your peace with your past and look towards the future. Next year you'll be a year on HRT and considering how old you are say a fucking prayer to Rosie for not looking like absolute shit
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>>5390523
Vancouver is plan A, but I'm willing to consider other options.

>>5390525
For a saint you seem to have a lot of stipulations, I don't remember saint nick being this judgemental ;~;

>>5390529
Escape plan as soon as humanly possible. How's it going mei?
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>>5390539
See you say stuff like that and it makes it hard for us to feel bad for you
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>>5390504
We'll get you moved out in no time!
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>>5390539
Save up for FFS.
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>>5390545
Vancouver seems comfy and not too hot either. Plus they are on the liberal side (right)
Perfect place to take hormones and chill

Time to escape British prison
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>Post trip you most want to fuck
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>>5390546
but its the truth, she is living full time at like 4 months hrt and its not fair

>>5390542
rosie looks more like a woman than I do
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>>5390560
I want kayla or madison to top me
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>>5390539
>Even fucking madison of all people
Extraordinarily rude. Madison worked her ass off to pass.
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>>5390564
She is, and you say it like she should't .
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>>5390481
Wait, is this true ;~;
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>>5390564
I'm as jealous as the easily passable trips as the next person but I don't feel any contempt for them what so ever. You just gotta keep trying
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>>5390564
Then stop being a little bitch and go and live fulltime yourself
the only person stopping you is you
fulltime=/= passing.
I was living 'fulltime' before I even had hormones.
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>>5390572
Lasers for dark hair, right? Like electro is for lighter hair
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>>5390568
>Madison worked her ass off to pass.
She has money from being a phd, so she didn't have to worry about getting fired or becoming homeless so it was easier for her

>>5390575
Its not contempt, I am just upset and frustrated.

>>5390570
maybe not, maybe no one should live full time till I get to

>>5390576
>I was living 'fulltime' before I even had hormones.
but how? I don't look like a female so I would get the shit kicked out of me
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>>5390556
BC is definitely on the liberal side. It's also warmer than here. Moving to BC or Ontario is a goal of mine.

>>5390576
>>5390564
This. I went fulltime before I passed, a lot of people do. Fulltime when Kayla?
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>>5390577
>>5390577
Laser works best on dark hair/light skin because its looking for contrast but there are a few that attempt to use radio frequencies for lighter hair

Elelectrolysis for anyone
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>>5390539
I know you're frustrated, but it's pointless to compare yourself to other people in different circumstances, that's not to say I'm not hideously jealous of some people but you just have to put it in perspective; you will be full time one day and you wont be like this forever.
Are you in girl mode at home most of the time?

>>5390545
Living with elves will do that to you.
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>>5390582
lol no one wants to live in ontario over BC
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>>5390582
British Columbia borders the sea, would feel more like home with beaches near by.

In all honesty in the future I'd probably move to Melbourne or something, but I would definitely love to travel the world and maybe move somewhere nice. If that's possible at least.
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>>5390580
Phaha, maybe they shouldn't Kayla, but then no one would because you're never changing .
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I love these kayler moments, it's the only reason to browse these threads
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>>5390582
>I went fulltime before I passed
But like how did you deal with the death threats and shouting and name calling? Oh wait, you don't live in the US so you have zero frame of reference on this.

>>5390587
>Are you in girl mode at home most of the time?
No, I am not allowed to dress or sound feminine around my parents.
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>>5390580
>maybe no one should live full time till I get to
Jesus fucking christ how bitter can you get
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>>5390601
Jesus Christ, so many people in the US are trannies, deal with the fact that your just a pathetic one that needs to sort his life out.
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>>5390601
Hey K, I live in South Central Los Angeles, you know the fucking ghetto in a hood full of niggas and spics, I'm half-and-half myself, and I went full time before HRT.
You make me feel better about myself, thanks.
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>>5390597
>>5390600
>>5390605
>>5390607
You're all getting coal.
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>getting called a grill in I just woke up and need to study for finals mode (ultimate dude mode, literally no effort at all)
>still scared to try going out in grill mode
What do, /mtfg/?
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>>5390612
get fucked santa, me and krampus are teaming up and taking you down

prepare your anus.
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>>5390613
Study for finals
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>>5390601
You know you can receive death threats and shit in countries that aren't the US right? In a certain area near my home I doubt I'd be taken so kindly desu.

Also what is this fulltime before passing? I thought fulltime implied passing?
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>>5390587
>Living with elves will do that to you.
That's racist.

>>5390547
Soon ;~; just need to get fulltime work

>>5390593
Rent's cheaper than Vancouver, and I'd still take Toronto over Edmonton.

>>5390595
Melbourne also seems really nice. Australian coastal cities in general seem to be.

>>5390601
I live in Alberta, it's conservative as fuck here, this is basically baby Texas. I dealt with the shittiness of not passing, woman the fuck up and start living a little.
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>>5390619
Hons are full time without passing.
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>>5390601
Your parents are toxic and you need to get away from them, could you afford to live alone?

>>5390617
Be gentle, then rough, then gentle again.
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>>5390564
>it's not fair
how are old are you again?
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>>5390620
It's nice except the weather can't make up it's damn mind.

>>5390621
And the ones who went on to pass?
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>>5390289
Wait, didnt you have a boyfriend? What happened.
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>>5390627
Don't misgender bexe!!!
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tfw should be asleep but can't because really frustrated and angry so I opened up some ciders and now I'm going to feel like shit at work tomorrow.
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When did mtfg decide going full time without passing was a good idea?
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>>5390619
>Also what is this fulltime before passing? I thought fulltime implied passing?
Pretty sure it means trying to girlmode all the time, even if you aren't sure if you pass. It's probably a lot better than sitting in boymode forever out of fear of not passing, and it builds confidence and stuff.
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>>5390630
I remember her saying she met a guy who trolled in mtfg and who ended up living near her in germany and they got together.

So whats up with that.
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>>5390627
Cartman you butthole, respond to >>5390293 replies.
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>>5390638
No
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>>5390635
Doesn't being known as a tranny bother you?

>>5390632
Ciderfags unite.
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>>5390633
I said full time before HRT, some people already pass before getting on it...
It's more than just some fat shifting around to be able to pass.
I already had a bunch of girl clothes, knew how to makeup and hair and learned to walk and talk before I was on HRT. It's only here that you find girls sitting and waiting for HRT to work while they don't try to work for it any other way, just like Kayla...
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>>5390627
Nope, my boyfriend and I broke up back in May and have been doing a sort of weird friends with benefits thing over the past month.

>>5390636
Huh? I live in Canada

>>5390633
Sometimes trial by fire is the only way to improve. A large amount of passing is experience.

>>5390626
Better than being minus 40 during winter.
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>>5390639
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>>5390580
stop caring about other people so much.
fix your own life.
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>>5390643
>minus 40
I'm in montreal ;_;
for the plebs, -40 is the same in F and C.
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>>5390646
Just let me suffer alone.
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>>5390643
I'd rather have consistancy than
12PM sunny
12:05 pouring down rain
12:10 sunny
ad infinitum

Plus I'm morbidly curious of the extreme cold
and it might be advantageous as I could cover myself up in cute clothes.
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>>5390650
Suffer alone with a more progressive mentality to fixing your problems and I might.
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>>5390626
They are passing and full-time, given they've continued to live as a woman after passing. How is that hard to wrap your head around?
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>>5390642
>passing pre hrt
So why bother w hrt and it's health risks
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>>5390545
it's good, I'm going to get my hair done today ^^
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>>5390642
Seems like you had the opportunity to practise all your girl shit though, other people aren't in your position, so who are you to judge?

>>5390643
like I said to ad: Doesn't being known as a tranny bother you?
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>>5390633
I feel like I don't really have a choice both my doctors and family are pressuring me into it
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>>5390654
Geeze I'm fucking working it, god mom.
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>>5390657
Youre really dense
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>>5390657
Are you new?

>>5390661
You couldn't tell them to do one?
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>>5390633
around the time I went full time
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>>5390663
I'm not that old!
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>>5390641
Well what I posted doesn't exactly apply to be, I'm not full time anyway because I'm too afraid of coming out at work, and I don't care enough to put makeup on just to go to the grocery store or whatever. But I'm usually girlmode with my friends now and it doesn't really bother me that I'm known as trans. It actually does feel a lot better than going out in boymode.
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>>5390657
Soft skin, boobs, not developing further as a man.
I got an orchi at 20 and I take a lower dose of E, that's it. big fucking health risks rip me.
>>5390659
kayla has all the time in the world to practice those same things, her voice is decent too.
stop defending someone that has pulled the same shit for 5+ years, if she spent that time learning2girl instead of bitching and moaning she'd be full time and away from her mother.
Fuck off Santa, I never once believed in you, I didn't have the luxury to.
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>>5390667
Well I'm asking everybody else so I'll ask you too: Doesn't being known as a tranny bother you?
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>>5390671
I'm way too high for this.
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>>5390672
Fair enough.

>>5390673
It must be east to judge from your ivory tower.
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>>5390677
I'm a little high too tho so it's okay.
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>>5390651
You say that now, but I've lived in it for long enough to know that super cold weather sucks.

>>5390649
;~;
Montreal > Edmonton

>>5390659
No, because I knew that was only temporary. The only people that definitely know I'm trans now are the people I knew pre-transition.
Besides, presenting and not passing felt more authentic than trying to live a double life, I wasn't prepared to keep presenting as a male.

>>5390658
Noice, how are you getting it styled?
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>>5390675
most people know I'm trans, but they're all nice enough people to not call others or see them as "tranny"

and I don't really care enough about how people see me that I don't know.
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Fuck this. I am DONE playing stupid with myself and everyone around me.

I am a closet transgender.

There, I said it.

What do I do?
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>>5390636
that's phienchen
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>>5390692
fuck sake santa
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>>5390686
>Montreal > Edmonton
I'm asking the real Santa to give you a sweet job so you can move out and live your dreams!
Hopefully somewhere warm lol
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I can't believe I stayed up this late
I need sleep
Night /mtfg/

>>5390686
Maybe
I haven't had much experience with the cold
Perhaps I'm having "the grass is greener on the other side" thoughts going on
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>>5390693
Oh, rite.
Is elanna german?
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>>5390692
welcome to the group, it sucks here
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>>5390700
better, Canadian!
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>>5390692
stop impostering me or you're going on the naughty list.

>>5390686
>>5390688
I don't understand how you don't seem to mind, don't they treat you differently? I hate that anybody knows I'm trans, because they can't help but tell other people.
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>>5390665
I can't really tell that to the doctors if I want to get on offical hrt at some point, it's not a bad thing in of itself I just have very low self esteem and feel like I'm causing people trouble by existing which is made worse by being in girlmode
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>>5390702
Well that explains her leftism.
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>>5390703
>don't they treat you differently?
not that I would have noticed.
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>>5390680
Also people have varying levels of social dysphoria vs physical dysphoria. Meaning, some people care more about identity and pronouns and etc. than they do about how they look, and vice versa. So those people have to try hard to go fulltime before they pass because that's what they need to be happier.
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Everyone post their heritage RIGHT NOW
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>>5390704
woo united kingdom
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>>5390709
Youre literally on black-people drugs you kuk lol
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>hampus complimented me
When do I become an official patrician?
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>>5390713
1/2 irish
1/4 african american
1/8 chinese
1/128 cherokee princess

100% white aryan angel
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>>5390697
Probably, it's awful when the temperature dips that low.

>>5390696
Thanks anon ;~; I don't want my dreams to remain dreams

>>5390703
Not really, I had supportive people around me who respected that I was a girl. Most people treated me OK until I started passing. I expected that boymode fail wasn't going to happen, or it would take too long, so I just hastened it.

>>5390709
The irony is that I live in a province that's very far right. Texas of Canada
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>>5390692
Avoid /mtfg/ at all costs.
For your own good, do not surround yourself with this cancer.
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>>5390686
dunno, probably gonna go with something shorter

>>5390692
seems like the year you didn't bring me a vagina for christmas is coming back to bite you, santa
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>>5390715
>Black people drugs
Doesn't fucking exist, lmao.
>>5390723
Elanna I swear you're gonna pop one of my blood vessels if we ever discuss politics, I hope you're not a lost cause, maybe you can change for the better.
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>>5390724
Santa has been nothing But cancer, I don't know what you're even warning that fake Santa for...
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>>5390704
They still demand RLE? That sucks.
I know it's hard not to feel like a burden but it's not like you chose this, it's a disability not a lifestyle.

>>5390712
Alright, I think I understand you a little better.
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>>5390713
Irish-Austrian burger
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>>5390713

75% french
25% south african

born in australia tho
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>>5390713
irish/english
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>>5390732
;-; why'd I get deleeted
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>>5390713
I don't even know my heritage.
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>>5390713
Irish + ???
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>>5390714
I love being in nhs purgatory, actually they haven't been too bad but I can't bring my self to disagree with what they ask me to do

I live in manchester now and look more like a femboy then a hon so going full time isn't to bad for me now just scary
>>5390732
Thanks I just need to get over some self hatred I have problems with
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>>5390712
those people are extra batshit insane.
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>>5390713
slav + welsh/scottish/unknown uk
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>>5390664
>>5390665
Not new enough to fall for Kayla's non sense

Im pre everything and passing now, and probably halfway done w voice

I'm worried hrt will wreck my mind (not to mention my liver which is not 100℅)
I already have enough anxiety as it is

>>5390724
Sure, you have to ignore the bad, but
Mtfg has really changed my life
I got here less then a yr ago, and seeing the fultimers really got me motivated
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>>5390725
Cool, well good luck ^^

>>5390713
Mostly Scottish, part English and Irish, sprinkle of Swedish.

>>5390730
Isn't that the fun of discussing politics with someone you disagree with? ^^ I don't like discussing politics with people I share the same views with, it's boring.

I'd be happy to tell you about Canadian politics though, we're further right than Sweden for sure.
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>>5390749
HRT shouldn't do anything to your mind apart from make you feel better and less dysphoric. If it doesn't do that then you might not be trans.
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>>5390749
>no hrt

You may not be a hon now but you 100 percent will be eventually if you dont.
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>>5390749
There are ways to do hrt without harming your liver though. I didn't have any mental changes aside from less anger because no T.
I don't know why you wouldn't be working towards not having T in you body though.
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>>5390713
Half Italian
Quarter dutch
Quarter British

>>5390746
You can say that but they're just trying to make themselves happy. And like numerous people have said, trying to go fulltime before passing gives both confidence and experience with socially transitioning.
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>>5390713
>muh heritage
http://webmshare.com/MnnMr
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>>5390713
Laplandian
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>>5390750
I would stay sober for our debate, I'm constantly handicapped ITT when it comes to rhetoric cause I'm baked as shit.

And I dont know, you guys are way more leftist than Sweden, your anti immigration sentiment doesnt even have a party in power. And Canadians are way more obsessed by being "progressive" and "Liberal" in Canada.

I mean just look at your ministers and shit, they're all fucking women or shitskins, Sweden is nowhere near this bad.
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Wat up /mtfgay?
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gn mtfg im going to sleep !

everyone please take care
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>>5390801
Did you go to see the doctor?
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>>5390801
nini Kit.
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>>5390806
No but if I'm still sick or have blood in my pee tomorrow morning I will go. gn anon !
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>>5390793
We only just voted the party with anti immigration sentiment out of power. The CPC implemented a ton of stuff to make it harder for people to move here. One of their campaign issues was to ban muslim women in public service from wearing niqabs. Also, maybe other parts of Canada are concerned with being progressive and liberal, but definitely not here, Alberta is pretty much like America.

Also, we've only ever elected white male prime ministers.

>>5390801
Goodnight Kit
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>>5390817
Take your own advice.
Good night.
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