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I would have asked this in /adv/ but I would realistically value your input more.

After submitting an application and interviewing, I am about to start working in gay porn. I haven't fully accepted the offer yet, because I wanted to take some time to think about it.

I am doing this for the extra money. However, there are some things that make me worry that I don't think I've ever had full answers to.

Will I be safe being a gay "pornstar"? They say that they make sure everyone is clean, but I have doubts.

We have not discussed money yet. Do gay pornstars make good income? I am moving from a job that is paying me nearly $11/hr.

Are there any warnings you guys would like to give me before proceeding with this? Any advice?

I would seriously appreciate it.
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>>5389604
Well, I know zip about the business, but for safety questions, I assume you're not going to do bareback stuff? Most studios/whatever don't I assume, but that's the one thing to worry about no?
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>>5389636
The studio I'm in talks with does have some bareback scenes, and I'm not sure if that's something they'll give me a say in or not if I sign with them...

But yeah, safety is one of the things that's making me uneasy about all of this. I'm sort of assuming that I'll be taken care of since they'll be making sure everyone's good and whatnot, but I doubt things are perfect in that kind of industry. It scares me.

The majority of the models are twinks, by the way.
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You're scared. You're scared because you think there's still hope.

The only hope you have is to accept the fact that you already have HIV. The sooner you accept that, the sooner you'll be able to function as a porn star is supposed to function.
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>>5389604
>They say that they make sure everyone is clean, but I have doubts.

Have they tested you to make sure you are clean?

If they don't test you you know they don't test anyone else.
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>>5389655
>If they don't test you you know they don't test anyone else.

Well, I haven't accepted the offer yet. They test afterwards.

It's not that I'm doubtful they don't test, it's just that there's always the possibility of something bad, you know? I'm sure there are things that can't be caught with tests...right?

I wouldn't know because I've never been tested.
Actually, this is going to sound super fucking ridiculous, but I am actually a virgin.
Yes, I am possibly going into porn as a virgin.

I've always been someone to turn down opportunities because of how suspicious I am of people possibly lying to me.

It's kind of stupid that I might possibly be losing my V card with porn, but I don't know, honestly...I can't say I really care that much.

I just want to make sure I'm safe is all. I feel like if I can be sure with that, I will be fully satisfied.
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If you have any intention--whatsoever--of EVER working for of with the following:

Government
Children
Highly Professional Environments -- Medicine, Law, Upper White Collar

Then do not do it. It could significantly wreck your career later or prevent you from entering it in the first place. Also, you will likely contract all standard viral STDs--namely herpes and HPV. HIV is always a risk if you come into contact with sexual fluids as infection cannot be detected until roughly six months after occurrence. Basically, if you do bareback you run a risk for HIV even if the other guy is supposedly "clean." While porn actors/actresses are regularly screened their lives outside of porn cannot be documented as efficiently. If they sleep with people with STDs and work a film there could be a lapse between infection and detection, which could leave you infected.

Basically, flesh-to-flesh contact always runs a risk for HPV and herpes. HPV has been shown to run risks for cancer in men, particularly laryngeal cancer. So if you are swallowing the loads you have that to be concerned with. Herpes can cause very painful blister outbreaks in the genital region. While you are unlikely to catch bacterial diseases due to screening, they are treatable with antibiotics--however more and more antibiotic resistant strains are popping up all the time, making them much harder to treat. Syphilis is a particular problem.

Anyhow, use your better judgment. Weigh if the money is genuinely worth the risks, and my personal advice is this: Don't do it unless you plan to make a full career of it and the compensation is highly attractive.
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So my hometown friend got into porn became huge and then left it to transition.

Basically they said to get an agent because you will get screwed by these companies who'll fuck you like a ragdoll and give you pennies in return.

Friends and family WILL find out, be okay with that and also if you are in it create a loyal fan base will to give you things if and when you ever leave that world
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>>5389667
I'm the guy that wrote >>5389674

I would strongly discourage you from entering the porn industry without prior sexual experiences. The reason being that it could result in psychological trauma in the form of dissociation between sex and intimacy. If you have no point of reference for what sex is like with someone you love, you may have trouble associating emotional intimacy with sex when the time comes. I'm not a psychologist, just an epidemiologist, but my basic background in psychology and common sense leaves me concerned about this for you.
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>>5389674
Firstly, I truly thank you for being so straightforward. This is what I was looking for...

Also -- regarding working for professional environments -- how exactly would they even know if I ever did porn unless I told them?
I would be performing under a moniker anyway, right? I'm an engineering major if that helps...

Also, yeah, that's specifically why I was so worried -- the lapse between infection and detection. I haven't asked the person I interviewed with if there's a choice involved with the way bareback scenes go down. But either way, I will definitely refuse them no matter what. I don't give a shit; not risking it.

I will definitely weigh things out a bit. I'm trying to settle myself down and make some solid income.

My parents kicked me out about two months ago simply for not being able to tolerate me, and things have been rather tough. I'm putting my foot down and trying to see this as a possible route, as ridiculous as it might seem to a lot of people, but I think I would genuinely enjoy it (wink wink) as long as I can make sure I'm safe.

I'm also a student, so it's not like it's going to be my permanent career if I get into porn.
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>>5389683
>If you have no point of reference for what sex is like with someone you love, you may have trouble associating emotional intimacy with sex when the time comes.

While you make an incredibly good point of this, I have pondered this concept in the past, but I understand the differences of what being intimate with someone I love will do for me, versus having flat-out sex.

Despite being a virgin, I tend to view sex (without love), as simple joy -- something to feed the sexual drive. And at the same time, I am aware of being able to have better sex if there is a bond involved.

I honestly doubt I'd be psychologically afflicted in a negative way by it, but I fully appreciate your input. Definitely a great point...

Although to be quite honest with you, I HAVE thought about trying to lose my virginity before entering porn (if I do so), but I don't have a relationship right now to lose it on a more sentimental note.

I just never cared too much because I've always been too cynical and bitter about taking advantage of the opportunities that have come to me. I'm at a point in my life where I just don't care about that stuff anymore as much as I would like to (if I still had that mindset).

I'm more concerned about securing myself financially and being more healthy and bettering myself for the future.
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With doing bareback porn/sex it's dangerous.

Hiv can sometimes not show up in tests for up to a few years and still be spread, then with twinks these days they haven't seen the horrors of what hiv/aids does.

So it's hard to take serious something that doesn't invoke an emotion on top of most people experimenting with sex in their midteens ignorant of what they're doing.

It only takes one of 15 year old to lie about their age on grindr and catch hiv, to spread it to countless more.

Remember this: everyone you have sex with you are in a form having sex with every person they had sex with and so on.

The future/my gay generation scares me for the most part.

If you do consider it, I'd invest in truvada prep or whatever the anti-hiv meds are. Although if I were to be honest with you, those scare me due to most vaccines contain the thing you desire to prevent and who really knows what's in their.

If you're going to do porn though, you should expect and accept hiv, especially if you also get caught up in the lifestyle.
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>>5389741
Yeah, I've definitely made it very clear to myself that I will not do any bareback scenes whatsoever -- at all.

I'll go through some in-depth conversation with the representative that's been working with me.

Thanks for your input. I'm definitely gonna see what kind of things I have a say in as a model for the company.

Also, more feedback/input/advice is appreciated, guys.
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>>5389756
Oh, and I also meant to ask you guys --
As a pornstar, as far as safety goes -- is it more risky to be versatile, versus being just a bottom? Why or why not?

I'm trying to make myself more 'accessible' (in a sensible way of course) for the studio.
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>>5389756
Oh and hey, if this doesn't work for you with finding nonbareback or be put at risk at all.

Try and get a solo scene and then aim to be a full time chaturebate model, that way once you have an official scene you can add professional pornstar to attract viewers. Even if no scene at all, I know a few people who make decent money at webwhoring on that site.
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let's just say there's a reason they don't accept blood donations from gay people.
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>>5389781
>Try and get a solo scene and then aim to be a full time chaturebate model, that way once you have an official scene you can add professional pornstar to attract viewers. Even if no scene at all, I know a few people who make decent money at webwhoring on that site.

Definitely interested in this if doing scenes doesn't work out great for me...

But more importantly, what do you guys suggest with regards to >>5389765
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>>5389667
How often do they test then? Before every movie or less frequent? The silent period of 6 months is exaggerated but depending on testing method, it can surely be long enough to be risky.
If you have the money you should get on Truvada, if you do a lot of scenes. I don't know how much it costs, but everyone having hot gay sex should at least consider it. The risks are low, absolutely, but it is always lurking.

>>5389692
>I HAVE thought about trying to lose my virginity before entering porn
Why don't you just go Grindr? At least it won't be in front of a camera.
Are you gay or just desperate btw?

>>5389756
If they don't OK it (non-bareback only) there surely must be other studios who have no bareback at all. Is there any reason why you're going into this one? Otherwise you might want to talk with other studios and look into their safety/testing stuff.

>>5389765
Bottom is way worse because you get way more tears in the skin/mucous membranes = infection entry sites. There are numbers on risk per sexual contact depending on contact (female/male top/bottom) which you can easily find from some reputable source.

>>5389749
>most vaccines contain the thing you desire to prevent and who really knows what's in their.
If you have no clue about the mechanisms then don't discuss them.
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>>5389808
>How often do they test then? Before every movie or less frequent? The silent period of 6 months is exaggerated but depending on testing method, it can surely be long enough to be risky.

I'll have to find out...good question.

>Why don't you just go Grindr?
Well, the point of me losing my virginity before doing porn is sentimentally relevant. Losing it quickly through Grindr, TO ME, is practically the same shit as doing it in porn. Also, I don't really consider myself 'gay' necessarily. I enjoy all humans; whatever. But sexually, dick is what I like the most.

>Bottom is way worse...
See this is what I am afraid of. Would it be better if I "loosened" up with sex toys to prevent easy tears from being too tight?
I'm only asking because I naturally look dynamically meant to bottom. Very slim, smooth skin, appear younger than my age, and all of that stupid shit...It's a strong possibility that taking on bottom roles will gain me the most financial success from all of this.

>If they don't OK it (non-bareback only) there surely must be other studios who have no bareback at all. Is there any reason why you're going into this one?

Yeah, if I don't have a proper say in it, then I will definitely go elsewhere. I'm interested in this one because the 'market' they go for pretty much involves the looks that I have, the whole 'twink' kind of thing. Not trying to sound like a cocky asshole, but I've always known that even attempting anything with the porn industry would be easy money for me simply because my appearance falls into the category without hesitation, it's just the consistent worrying and skepticism of things is what holds me back.

Of course, more so in the future, this kind of career will mean nothing to me. I'm just in a tough situation after being kicked out of my parents house, and I feel okay doing porn as long as I can ensure my safety. I'll be making pretty good money, and I wouldn't have to work too hard so I can focus on my academic prospects.
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>>5389839
> Also, I don't really consider myself 'gay' necessarily. I enjoy all humans; whatever. But sexually, dick is what I like the most.
So you're a bisexual who has a preference for men. It's not really that special of a thing.

There's other stuff you can do other than porn to make money. Hell, cashiers at Costco get hired at $15/hour. Depending on what your previous job was and if you left it on good terms you could easily get hired somewhere like that without having to go into porn.
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>>5389879
>It's not really that special of a thing.
Well, yeah it isn't special and that's why I don't like to slap a term on it. Probably the wrong board to be stating such an opinion, but I'm not here to get into an argument. Everyone will have their opinion.

Also, yeah, you're definitely correct. There are many other things I could be doing to make money, it's just that with porn, I don't necessarily have to do much that will exhaust me like standing on my feet for a full 8 hours during a full working day. Besides getting banged for money, also -- the pay is pretty good with porn, for the most part. And again, the single thing that is worrying me/preventing me from ensuring my choice is just the safety part.

I'm thinking that once they fly me over to their headquarters, at least it's worth checking out to get the experience of interacting with them physically. And if all else fails...I'd just look for something different.
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>>5389685
>>5389692

Just go google "teacher loses job over porn career." Replace teacher with any professional title. Sometimes they simply resign out of shame, but the reality is this: could you continue to work in an environment where all of your colleagues, associates, underlings, students, or clients were simply a google search away from seeing you committing potentially highly degrading sexual acts--or just sex in general. Could you look at your boss in the eye if you knew he probably saw you taking a load over your face on pornhub? Or your students (if you went the teaching route)?

Everyone looks at porn, many people look at it everyday. It is simply a matter of probability and time before someone you know sees you in the films you shoot, and then all it takes is a game of telephone for EVERYONE in your immediate community to know. If you have any shame regarding this sort of thing and do not intend to make it your full career I would recommend you pull the plug. Even if you use a moniker it only takes one very interested fan to snoop about to find your real name and then put together a wikipedia article on you. I was educated in Southern California, and trust me when I tell you that EVERYONE in the media industry knows everyone else. Coincidentally, I went to school in the porn editing capital of the USA. On that note, due to Measure B passed in 2012, all pornographic films in LA county require the use of condoms, so as long as you shoot there then you won't have to worry about bareback (I'm assuming you are USA or Canada due to your use of the dollar sign).

As a fellow STEM colleague, my frank and biased advice is this: don't do it. You likely have a very vibrant, gratifying, and lucrative career ahead of you. Don't put that at risk. If you were a deadbeat I wouldn't be so opinionated, but you obviously are bright and have great potential. Think long-term.
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