To start i'm trans, I began transitioning back in 2010 and I pass 97-99% of the time.
I have a distain for a very large number of transwomen particularly those who are from a pure gringo background. Most transwomen that i've met are unlikeable people and toxic social justice warriors. Between seeing these women attack gay men and transmen for having more "privilege" then them, to ripping their friends off with their gofundme's for surgery only to buy goddamn action figures, and fund their cosplays.
But it get's worse, I became aware of Chris-chan and you know just that person alone and all the fuck up things they've done, along with various things transwomen have done from what i've seen. I'm quite frankly ashamed. Am I the only one who feels like this?
I am glad I decided to just assimilated completely. And just to add, being trans does take it's toll on your mental health, it's even taken a toll on me. But some of this shit is inexcusable.
>>5371756
No. Directing hatred toward other members of one's own minority is a tried and true fashion to improve one's social standing. You're in the best of company.
>>5371797
You're assuming I only socialize and associate with transpeople, you're mistaken.
>>5371814
I don't believe I made that assumption, no.
>>5371756
love urself lol
>>5371814
You were called an Uncle Tom and told that there are many other trannies like you on this board that throw other trannies under the bus, and in fact that you do not associate with trans people tbph senpai.
I sort of agree OP. I find most white trans women to be really cringy/former beta straight guys and so many of them are transbians. All the mtfs from Latin America and Asia have been really chill and cool and fun to talk to and don't take themselves that seriously, they only take their appearances seriously (uh its like they are the complete opposite of white mtfs).
>>5371756
>Most transwomen that i've met are unlikeable people and toxic social justice warriors.
wait until you see transmen
>>5371756
>gofundme's for surgery only to buy goddamn action figures, and fund their cosplays.
Wait is that fucking real? Holy fuck I mad now
>Chris-chan
I share a birthday with that fucker. I hate it so much.
>>5372496
I'm a hue, and besides two people all the transwomen I've gotten along with were latin american. Urgh, I can't believe I got shit from gringas over my decision to fat grafting so I have a much more feminine shape.
>>5372516
I am totally serious and I would publicly name her, but at this point she'd figure out who I am.
>>5372516
now i don't want to check CWC's birthday
also hoooly hell that pic
>>5372864
Well too be fair white women are often very slim with boyish body shapes, thats what the media glorifies. Think Taylor swift, emma stone ect. So it makes more sense to not want to mess with body sculpting, though lots need it.
The thing I can't figure out is how the latinas I see in porn get such amazing bodies, like their hips are HUGE! Sometimes its obvious that they got work done but other times Im not sure and I wonder if they were lucky enough to be that naturally.
>>5372507
True trans men are way worse. I can spot those sjw fuckers from a mile away from their queermo haircuts and extreme femininity that they for some reason think people see as masculine cause "they are a boy"
>>5373122
It does seem to be natural, as a Hispanic bio male living in a city with a large proportion of Hispanics. Lots of girls with hips and asses like that too young to have gotten them through surgery. I'm not saying it's necessarily genetics either but I have noticed that it's never the more Indian looking ones from central America that have those body shapes. Most are closer to white or have black ancestry. In terms of origin country, Brazilians, Puerto Ricans, and to a much lesser extent, Dominicans make up the majority of the big butts I see (excluding blacks, of course). I am betting it's diet and/or exercise, but I guess I would need to ask a girl one day to know.
>>5372893
Who cares. If she really is that bad of a person what do you care what she thinks of you.
>>5373122
Narrow hipped hispanic mtf here.
Sometimes I feel like everyone else gets dem hips other than me.
>>5371873
She's hardly throwing other trannies under the bus.
They throw themselves there by being fucking laugh-a-minute horror shows and drag every fucking one else in after them.
>>5373437
Why do you have to pass judgement on others? Why does everyone have to fit your narrow minded mold?
>>5373437
Well, it's not an assessment I agree with, I was just translating.
>>5371756
Just about every 'normal' trans person feels this way. We hate the ugly people that don't pass because they make society think we're all ugly, confused men; we hate the weird fetishists who want to fuck women with their "BIG CLIT" because they make us look like crazy fetishists who chose to transition because of sexual fantasies (and because these people are plain fucking creepy); we hate the lunatics that think they're trans because they don't like skirts or trousers, because they make us look insincere, and contribute to that whole "You don't need hormones/surgery to be your true self" bullshit.
You're on 4chan, and most of us hate any kinda bullshitting. You're in good company.
>>5373131
>true trans men
I don't think you know what that means.
>>5373834
>implying that acting like special snowflake attention whore isn't tru as fuck for someone who was brought up in privileged gender
>>5373429
Personally I don't care. But I've made enough enemies in the con community lol.
>>5373398
Where you carry your fat is literally due to hormones and genetics, no exercise or diet changes that.
>>5373131
>"they are a boy"
lel. if you are a man, then boy isn't a gender.
>>5373892
You're obviously very confused about what you think the whole "tru-trans" thing is.
I don't know what you read or where to give you such an incorrect impression or if you just misread/misunderstood something but "tru-trans" is about saying that you need dysphoria and to pursue transition in order to be trans in contrast to the tumblr "you're whatever gender you want real or fictional just by saying so and don't need to do anything else".
>>5373122
A Brazilian Butt lift isn't that bad price wise. Stateside it's 5-8 thousand dollars. While in our home countries it's around 1-3 thousand dollars. With Brazilian real in a downswing at the moment you could probably spend around 300-800 dollars on some major surgeries at the moment. I actually plan on heading back to Brazil to have my breast augmented, price is R$4000 but i'm paying around $1250 due to the recession lol.
>>5374505
I was lucky to get a big butt and hips (for a male) even though I'm white american. I don't know if I want a brazilian butt lift... or just some silicone or fat to my hips more width. Basically I want to fake having a female pelvis and contrast my waist more. Doesn't brazilian butt lift develop it front to back more, rather than increasing the width of hips?
>>5375042
Depends on the surgeon, just tell them to have them graft fat on your hips and outer thighs. That's what my surgeon did. I'm glad I did it, since the shape is alot more feminine now and i'm happier with how I look in skirts and leggings.
>>5375067
Does it look smooth. I would be afraid that if I got silicone it would move and have an unnatural shape. And I would be afraid with fat grafting that it would get reabsorbed in random places and end up looking like cottage cheese.
>>5371756
>began transitioning back in 2010
>pass 97-99% of the time
I started this summer, pass at the same rate and havent even got hormones yet
>>5375149
Half the time I don't even put in the effort, i'm either dressing to the 9's or wearing no make up, hoodie and jeans. And I was being generous. :3
>>5375138
Yeah for the most part, but I used to also be really fat pre-transition, it helps tremendously if you use lotions that stimulate fat and skin health for your butt.
>>5371756
Welcome to the club
>>5371756
same here, i hate my kind.
I've met sooo many mtf and ftm and only like 5-6 of them are decent people. People i would consider my friends which i hold contact to.
The rest is exactly like you described
+ cringeworhty
I'm ashamed that doctors have to listen to their bullshit and am glad that they're happy that at least 1% is doing okay.
>>5371756
me too
>>5375232
>it helps tremendously if you use lotions that stimulate fat and skin health for your butt.
These exist senpai? Please post links.
>>5375232
passing pre hrt with ordinary female clothes and eyeliner, get rekt
I feel the same. Those SJWs give us a horrible reputation.
>>5375378
Yeah, this is what I personally use since my issue initially was having loosish skin. http://www.amazon.com/Gluteboost-Butt-Cream-Booty-Enhancement/dp/B00IFBJBRY/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top?ie=UTF8
http://www.amazon.com/Best-Cellulite-Cream-Caffeine-Retinol/dp/B00LM3L90Y/ref=sr_1_3?s=hpc&ie=UTF8&qid=1449871982&sr=1-3&keywords=butt+firming+cream
>>5375491
Same here, going to present for good long time before diving into hrt
>>5375232
I moisturize my whole body every time I get out of the shower
>>5371756
We definitely have *severe* problems within our "communities", but the internet is like a sink for misery loves company, and if all you can think about is internet cringe case after internet cringe case, you're going to start losing practical insight. Also if you don't live in a major city, maybe you need to, maybe go to stuff where you see trans women you don't see everyday because they aren't outing themselves constantly and are living normal lives. Maybe you'll even kiss one of them and become magically well-adjusted and no longer waxing auto-tw-erf right there on the spot.
Get well soon, hon!
>>5371756
>Complains about cis people, like "chris-chan"
>Is glad they're pretending to be cis so people will think they're like "chris-chan"
Ok.
>>5373471
>You're on 4chan, and most of us hate any kinda bullshitting.
What?
>>5373131
This. Why do they want to be men, but hate everything about masculinity? It's fucked up.
>>5376451
This, these kids gloating that they pass before they've even taken hormones make me laugh. If you're so confident about your appearance, post a picture so we can confirm your claim.
>>5376188
Thanks for the links! These won't interfere with HRT at all right?
>>5376898
Heck no.
>>5372496
I notice this too, black and latino trans men and trans women & a select number of white trans people seem to act like normal men and women
where as most white mtfs act like mgtow, anime obsessed male stem nerds with a fetishized view of the way women should act.
and most white ftms act like sjwarriors with weird pink hair cuts and submissive girly personalities or awkwardly forced hyper masculine personalities
probably because transitioning is more acceptable amongst white people than blacks and latinos,
so white girls who "feel more male today and female tomorrow" transition to feel special.
>>5376760
You have to be delusional to even think you could be a woman. It makes sense that some are that cocky.
>>5377101
Latino culture has very defined gender roles where Americans have more freedom. It's a patriarchal society, and I don't mean that in the tumblr sense. Very strong male figures and women who take their femeninity with pride.
>>5373471
>and contribute to that whole "You don't need hormones/surgery to be your true self" bullshit.
But that's true, you don't need hormones and surgery to be "your true self" You are born your true self.
>>5375232
How did you deal with stretch marks/loose skin from weight loss?
>>5377101
>>5377517
Its both. Also a big thing, which people miss, is that white American (and to a large extent western european ) cultures have very weak definitions of man, masculine, male in terms of the behavior they need to display to be accepted as a masculine male. Pretty much in these communities as long as you aren't a prissy faggot, you can be as passive a bitch as you want and still be considered a masculine "typical" male. Where as in a lot of cultures like Latino cultures, Thai cultures, Filipinos, black american cultures, maybe not so much east asians, masculinity has more definition. So if you are a little femme boy or like has a wobbily gender identity it becomes obvious really early that you are extremely different from a "man" in your society and you may look to inhabit a different gender role, one that fits you better.
As some white middle class American being a passive feminine minded guy doesn't really set you a part much you still feel just as much "one of the guys" as the rest and this leads to you toiling your life away trying to make it as a guy longer and leads to shity socialization problems and stuff because society didn't kick you in the ass early on and say "see you literally can't even be a man your such a faggot, figure out something else to be".
Idk this is the gist of what a filipino mtf told me one time.
I don't really know why there are so many white transbians compared to other races though, that one still boggles my mind. Ive talked with filipino mtfs who find sites like reddit or make friends western mtfs and then get grossed out and find them weird because these white trannies start hitting on them... cringe
>>5377101
What if you're a white trans-bisexual who likes anime but doesnt obsess, has social anxiety and a bit of difficulty socializing, and feels insecure and kind of isolated from both normal girls and weird transbians?
>>5378848
Oh and my view of women and how they act isnt fetishized rly? I live in an area with a lot of masc girls and theyre cool
>>5378848
>>5378851
That sounds like most awkward college girls i know
>>5376760
>just post your face and all the metadata attached to a photo to a site renowned for trolls and hackers :^)
>>5379452
stop making shit up on the internet
>>5379729
>I dont want to believe you therefore you must be lying
Poor baby
>>5379751
I have a networth of 5 billion dollars, i'm generally considered a 10/10 and i'm cosfamous. :3
>>5381219
>getting hit on in bars is on par with being a billionaire
Why so mad anon?
>>5379601
>tfw i already have compared myself to awkward college girls subconsciously
I guess i really am like them.
Just sucks to not pass that well it compounds awkwardness
>>5371756
I mean statistically, there has got to be at least one person surrounded exclusively by trans women who are assholes
>>5371756
Brianna Wu is also trans, another thing to be ashamed of. lel.
>Finds out about "Stefonknee".
Well... I am in every shape and form done.
>>5379452
So you pass in dark places with drunks. Way to go. You know the secret to happy transition.
I find that I agree many mtf's are insufferable. Many are vain, shallow, looks obsessed drug addicted whores who suffer from trauma, mental illness, and substance abuse.
>>5389088
>there are no well lit places after the sun goes down
>it is impossible to be with some one sober both before and after drinking together
Why so mad friend?
>>5389172
I am sad cause I am a crazy ugly hon that has a destroyed life.
However saying I pass 97% of the time in dark clubs and bars around intoxicated horn balls isn't really saying much.
I can do that.
I really hate sjw trannies and tumblr/snowflakes trannies.
The worst is that I'm always crying over how privileged other people are just because I was born in a country with very low chances of transitioning.
So basically I hate people who complains because they don't have it half bad as others. Same with feminists and all kind of sjw
>>5389269
Again, fuck nugget, you'll say anything rather than have to deal with the fact people pass. I have never been misgendered by anyone who didnt know me pre-transition.
Additionally, just because someone gets hit on at night, does not mean its fucking pitch black and everyone is black out drunk, are you stupid? Bars and pubs actually tend to be pretty well lit. And you're completely ignoring the fact that i see people sober and in the day too.
But whatever, no doubt you, or someone else will say I dont pass at all which apparently means literally every person I have ever encountered is just really nice, and not one of them is an asshole that doesnt like trans people. Because somehow, the idea that there is a utopia where trans people dont get shit for being trans is more believable than someone just passing and being attractive, despite the numerous examples of trans people who pass. Sure.
You people take delusion to the next level.
>>5389299
I have no idea if you pass or don't pass. It is the evidence you provide that you pass I simply point out isn't that great.
Like I know I am a non passing hon ok. But I don't get misgendered in the day. People are just generally nice.
If I go out to a bar or club I get hit on and pass even better to intoxicated people.
Clubs, bar, and restaurants turn the lights down for people at dinner time on purpose so people don't see each others flaws so bad.
Seriously saying you don't get treated rudely doesn't prove you pass.
I am not attacking you. Maybe you pass. I don't know. Again it is why you say you think you pass.
I mean shit. I have people tell me how pretty I am and pretend they had no idea I was trans. LOL no I know I am a hon.
Maybe you have just been hug boxed stupid? Post a pick and we will all know.
>>5389419
>Im not saying you dont pass, im just lying about being trans, claiming to be an ugly hon, and by claiming I have the same experience as you, I am suggesting you yourself are an ugly hon
It is top quality bait sir and I shall have no part in it
>>5389456
If you say so, but I have spammed this board with my dumb hon face plenty of times.
>>5389456
I am sorry for being a bit douche. If you pass you pass.
>>5389495
You pass. Nose and mouth area are still masc tho
>>5390083
You pass almost as well as me hon
>>5389495
Very pretty! I think you look great!
