Is /lgbt/ pro SJW or not? I don't normally come on here but since its 4chan and most of the boards are against it i'm curious if you guys are?
We hate SJWs more than you, probably. They make us look bad.
We've got a few autistic trannies who talk about "girl cocks" or whatever the fuck, but the rest of us sane people just mock the shit out of them and call them heshe.
It's /lgbt/ but it's still 4chan.
>>5360392
Goodbye BRAVE ;_;
>>5360392
;__; plz dont bully my feminine penis, i have a fragile heart.
>>5360349
Against them, but the conservatives here still whine about the libruls taking over the board
You want to see a pro-SJW board, go to /cgl/
>>5360522
this. /cgl/ is literally Tumblr: the board
SJWs are a disease. Thankfully over the past year since that GamerGate thing started more people have been getting wise to them and started to actively fight back, rather than passively sitting around and hoping they fizzle out of their own accord.
I do think there is a difference between someone who advocates for social justice and an SJW, mind you. But most of the former will be found dealing with real issues in places that don't have the kind of freedoms that many Western societies enjoy instead of whining about inconsequential bullshit, so you're not likely to find them on the internet.
I'm mildly for them. Not the extremists, but I believe in rights and such more than the average 4channer.
>>5360597
What the fuck does that even mean?
>>5360349
>implying most of 4chan is a hivemind
>implying there aren't boards that are split
>implying poltard newfags are that relevant
>>5360597
Nothing wrong with fighting for equal rights, but the SJW movement isn't about equality, it's about gaining privilege while calling it equality.
>>5360597
SJWs are not about equal rights, at all. SJW is a derogatory term for a very specific kind of person, one that manipulates mob mentality to achieve goals that present them as being morally righteous. They are parasites that have grown increasingly virulent with the rise of social media.
>>5360667
Why do you think they would let something like that get in the way of their "social justice"?
>>5360684
good point
>>5360349
Tell me, Anon, in clear words and without resorting to examples, what you mean by Social Justice Warrior. I regret to inform you that the term means many different things to many different people, and asking for an opinion on ALL of them is excessive - there isn't enough time!
>>5360707
Someone that claims to want equality in the world but is actually trying to get there sex or color to be the most important one whilst putting down other people. So Tumblr in a nutshell.
>>5360707
The type of person that follows the kind of doctrine as outlined in pic related.
>>5360749
>when people equate social justice and radical feminism
We literally hate SJWs. Stahp equating us with them.
>>5360769
SJWs are you. Or rather, they are so firmly embedded within both of those groups as to be virtually impossible for an outsider to distinguish. I truly wish that more prominent social justice advocates and feminists [spoiler](although I do find myself disagreeing with non-SJW radfems on pretty much everything, save for when they're focusing their efforts on 3rd World countries)[/spoiler] would publicly decry and attempt to ostracize SJWs from their communities, but that has yet to happen. And until that happens, and happens loudly, people will continue to associate them with you.
>>5360749
The idea that Kant and other philosophers' work is held as a holy object by SJWs is absurd.
If they studied it in college, that study would have consisted of criticising it. Which that post says you cannot do to a holy text.
If they're a tumblr-style SJW they'll have never read it, possibly never heard of it.
>>5360847
>If they're a tumblr-style SJW they'll have never read it, possibly never heard of it.
That's exactly what that post states.
>>5360802
We absolutely ostracize SJWs from our communities.
Radical feminism doesn't just mean "really feminist," it's a name for a specific subset of feminist ideals that do not align with SJW ideals at all. We think trans people don't real, we think gender=sex, we don't agree with with PC "help me I'm so offended" bullshit, we don't think "intersectionality" is the most important thing EVAR and we're largely older, self-reliant people rather than college students whining on their blogs about oppression while relying on mommy and daddy to pay for everything.
SJWs hate us, and we hate SJWs. Mutual animosity.
>>5360737
Then no
>>5360881
Isn't that TERF or something? Or is that just the name they gave you?
>>5360918
That's just the name they gave us. And anyone else who doesn't buy their bullshit. Nobody actually calls themselves TERFs.
>>5360963
Okay cool, thanks for clarifying. I wish there were more of you folks around, because the longer SJWs are enabled the more cancerous to society they become.
>>5360881
>we don't agree with with PC "help me I'm so offended"
That's blatantly false.
If anyone tries to speak you scream out in outrage that you're being silenced.
>>5360607
It means anon has no strong opinions or knowledge of the issues. Anon just really hopes everyone will like them.
>>5360963
It's not SJWs that started calling TERFs TERF, it's like 20 years old thing, that moderate feminsts started calling you, so they knew if a person was worth listening to and arguing with.
TERF basically meant a screaming ape that will not listen to reason and will continuously feel assaulted by other peoples existence, a sever case of narcissism and victim complex.
>>5360881
> We think trans people don't real
No, that's Gender Critical Feminists.
>we think gender=sex
Gender Crits, again. The Radical Feminism position is that Gender is a damaging social construct, and the root (radical) of systemic oppression.
>we don't agree with with PC "help me I'm so offended" bullshit
Meaningless hostility aimed at no one in particular. Someone will console you for another human being having called you rude, one day.
>we don't think "intersectionality" is the most important thing EVAR
No one does, so this is technically correct.
>and we're largely older, self-reliant people
Also true, given radical feminism is a movement well past the age of majority.
>rather than college students
True, because see above
>whining on their blogs about oppression while relying on mommy and daddy to pay for everything.
There, there. There, there.
>>5360349
I despise our outrage culture. I hate that when enough people are upset, the assumption is that something must be done about it. Usually this means somebody loses thier job.
As a regular old gay dude, I've been fair game for the vitriol hurled by the shrillest segment of the SJW community for sometime now. I despise identity politics as a whole.
I can't stand the sanctimonious victim hood and dumbfounding lack of self awareness displayed by the majority of the SJW community who, by and large are western college students/recent grads/academia who are among the most privileged people in the world.
EVERY generation rebels, has thier own naive radical youth culture and that's FINE. For some reason, this time the adults are willing to indulge them. Higher education isn't about challenging students anymore. instead of criticizing these people for the weak minded, spiteful and intellectually vaccous ideas they spew they've capitulated at almost every given opportunity.
At this point anti SJW means anti censorship. Anti SJW is pro meaningful discourse. Anti SJW means anti pseudo intellectualism and moral reletivism. Put me squarely in the anti SJW camp.
>>5361036
No hon, you're thinking of the SJWs again.
>>5361049
So a strawman, ofc.
>>5361061
I love how easy it is to trigger autists just by existing near them. Every time I mention it anywhere, it always goes like
>Radical feminism is actually a philosophy that holds that-
>OH MY GOD LITERAL HITLER FUCK YOU HERE'S A POINT BY POINT BREAKDOWN OF
And yet we're the sensitive ones? Kek.
Any group that thinks rights issues can be resolved by treating one group as 'the superior victim' isn't actually campaigning for equal rights.
I've yet to see a single SJW that hasn't resorted to bullying or fallacy in order to win an argument. This isn't progress it's delusional self-entitlement.
>>5361317
>At this point anti SJW means anti censorship. Anti SJW is pro meaningful discourse. Anti SJW means anti pseudo intellectualism and moral relativism. Put me squarely in the anti SJW camp.
Seconding that. 90% of the issues that SJWs seem to be 'dealing with' are universal issues, and while women (because let's be honest here most SJWs are involved with feminist issues) might have bigger problems in some situations there are dozens of other groups who suffer too. Campaigning for the rights of the few is no longer relevant.
>>5361317
>I hate that when enough people are upset, the assumption is that something must be done about it.
That's basically the fundamental mechanism of social change since prehistoric times, it's nothing new. If a lot of people are upset, they ARE going to try to do something about it.
>At this point anti SJW means anti censorship. Anti SJW is pro meaningful discourse. Anti SJW means anti pseudo intellectualism and moral reletivism. Put me squarely in the anti SJW camp.
The way "anti-SJW" is often used, it means the same as "family values".
>>5361397
>I've yet to see a single SJW that hasn't resorted to bullying or fallacy in order to win an argument. This isn't progress it's delusional self-entitlement.
Circular reasoning. If one uses logic in arguments they're not a SJW.
>>5361410
10/10
>>5361375
I found you a consoling .gif
It's futile to misrepresent radical feminism, though; it's old enough that its precepts are a matter of public knowledge.
>"social politics"
A convenient distraction from the real problems affecting the proleriat.
I take neither side seriously.
>>5360349
You have a feminist board, it's called /pol/. Report and ignore.
>>5360684
That made me sad, fuck. This is some mental illness-tier bandwagoning.
>>5360392
>not ironic gt posting
pleb.
It depends on your definition of SJW.
If YOu think Star Wars is SJW because black man + white woman then fuck off
If you think Zoey Quinn is SJW I do too and I fucking hate her
I hate that fat pretendbian tranny dykes take the spotlight.
There are real issues, gender equality too, but they are diverting the attention away from places that really need it, India, the Middle East and West Africa.
>>5360769
hate to break it to ya but you're an sjw.
>>5362337
But isn't the circular firing squad hilarious?
>>5360684
>a ten year old shows more maturity than a bunch of retarded feminists
Jesus where did the world go?
>>5360349
I fucking hate sjws, they make my blood boil. They spread lies, and most of them hate white people, straight people, & men. They only want to get attention, and feign being "oppressed" to make themselves look like victims.
The worst part is they get away with it
>>5360684
The fact that feminists would harass a kid for having an opinion is disgusting. He's pretty awesome for staying so meh about it.
>>5362722
Not only harass, but make pretty overt threats of physical violence. That's seriously fucked up. All in the name of their damn cause.
That's some Glenda the Good Witch logic right there. Give me the Wicked Witch of the West any day. She's a total cunt but at least she's upfront about it.
>>5362749
Never agree'd more in my life
>>5360684
On 4chan, where doxxing is a pleasure, this sort of thing is suddenly very toxic and problematic and triggering.
>>5362786
Almost no one on 4chan actually doxes in the name of ideology and hatred. It's mostly just edgy skiddies messing around; hardly ever is there any genuine malicious intent.
>>5362819
Aha, so it's edgy skiddies when 4chan does it, and when some random tumblrinas act the fool then it's just further proof SJWs are vile. Makes sense. Face it, it's just two sides of the same retarded coin. A loud annoying coin that never stops arguing with itself.
jfc nobody cares about any of this shit, everyone just have sex
>>5362866
Why are you equating dumb teenagers fooling around with SJWs that gave physical threats of violence?
>>5362882
Why are you pretending that the "dumb teenagers" of all ages that make up this site haven't been the source of actual death threats, physical violence, and life-altering harassment against others since before SJW was a thing? Seriously, just stop trying to pretend. Can you at least admit both sides are bad?
>>5362869
Not until everyone signs their consent forms
>>5362905
I'm not saying that there was never any bad things done by 4chan users with malicious, but most of the time doxing and whatever else were just pranks.
>>5362905
Why is that in any way relevant? I haven't done anything to be ashamed of other than frequent a damn website where other anonymous posters may or may not have done something similar. That doesn't make what those SJWs do any better. In some ways I find it easier to understand the fuckers that are just doing it for laughs, because they have no illusions about the kind of people they are. SJWs do all this and then have the gall to still think of themselves as good people, and worse, other people will validate this belief by praising their efforts!
They're both two different shades of nasty, but as I don't associate with either of them I'm not going to feel bad for not calling out a bunch of other people that are completely unrelated to the topic of discussion that this thread was made for.
>>5362005
>>5362913
kek
>>5361950
>another commie
It hurts every single day when I remember how SJWs and liberals have been successful in infiltrating mainstream socialism.
>>5363412
It's so frustrating.
Without the Soviet Union for guidance, most socialists have pretty much lost any direction they had. Perfect conditions for the bourgeoisie to break apart and destroy anything that's left.
Socialists in the west are practically now sjw circlejerks, the Cubans are slowly transitioning to the market and the most frustrating one: people are now accepting "western truths" as the actual truth (particularly on the topic of Soviet economics).
And there aren't many old fashion socialists still left. Soon they will be gone and the light of socialism will be but a distant memory.
A friend of mine recently joined the Labour party here. He was trying to tell me that the end of manufacturing in my country (and the following inevitable unemployment surge) was good for the worker. He tried to claim that über's policy of illegally running a taxi service that breaches labour laws was good for their workers.
I mean, what the fuck?
It seems like the bubble of humanity (and common sense) in human civilisation has burst.
>>5363640
>And there aren't many old fashion socialists still left. Soon they will be gone and the light of socialism will be but a distant memory.
And thank God for that. You have to be a masochist to wish to live in a soviet, fascist or nazi state.
>>5362998
>gets life ruined
>doesn't revenge
HURR HOLIER THAN THOU
This is one of the reasons sjw's are so bold and openly aggressive. Nobody puts them in their place.
All the lesbians on /lgbt/ are feminists making them all sjw.
>>5364423
>soviet
>machoist
Well, to be fair, the former-Soviet region has become infinitely more shit since the removal of Soviet control.
This is where the whole "western truths" thing comes into play. Post-Stalin, most of the Socialist Eastern Europe was actually quite reasonable, contrary to popular western belief.
I recall reading in a pretty dull book on statistics that the average East German wage was greater than Great Britain, as well as other metrics being better there until it's occupation in the nineties. In fact according to a report in Der Spiegel (hardly a socialist rag), a majority of East Germans want 'the old government' back even today. Similar stories echo throughout the continent.
>>5360349
lgbt is pro themselves. Everyone is. All the rest of 4chan are mostly cis straight white guys who don't like having their privileges taken away or sharing industries that used to cater to them exclusively. SJW is an enemy to them because of this.
on lgbt, it's every letter for themselves and then some. Gay mascs are pro gay mascs, gay twinks are for gay twinks. Straight femme transwomen are for straight femme transwomen. Everyone who is not on your team is an SJW and a false believer.
Example: Plenty of transwoman hate transpeople who don't have dysphoria and vice versa. Likewise, gay mascs will gladly throw twinks under the bus and vice versa.
tldr; People draw the SJW line to suit their own worldview
>>5361375
>No hon, you're thinking of the SJWs again.
No, it's the "gender criticals" as you like to call yourself.
And if you try to speak with them they scream out and saying they're being harassed, and tries to get you banned/jailed, or whatever.
>So a strawman, ofc.
No, that's where it originated.
Feminists got tired of the TERFs, so they started calling them TERFs, and categorized them as such, so that they knew they could simply ignore the TERFs.
Friendly reminder: TERFs believe that they should have more authority over what you do with your body and how you live your life than you do.
The only good TERF is a dead one.
>>5364758
>women don't have penises
Literally worse than hitler amirite
>>5364758
I think the 'RF' part says it alone. Actually just the R. If you're radical of some sort it probably means you're fucked in the head.
>>5364795
Radical means "root". Specifically, a radical organization is focused on the root cause of something or other.
>>5364802
I've yet to see one radical fringe that fits your description in a positive way.
>>5364816
Sure. Unless you're on board with "everything" (slight hyperbole) changing, a radical organization/movement won't be seen as positive.
>>5360575
Honestly I hate gamergate just because I think it's such a stupid issue that broke the camel's back and started the tipping point but I'm glad it raised awareness of SJWs and how they really aren't just a fringe group/strawman on tumblr you will never encounter unless you go looking for them like otherkins and 'vampires'. I also kind of hate how it gave SJWs a boogeyman/scapegoat to place all their blames on because now they have another name they can identify and label their opposition with more instead of just calling people who don't go along with their group think haters/trolls/racists/shitlords/MRAs.
>>5364961
I love it though, the fact that they have such a kneejerk reaction and start calling people who disagree with them GG supporters is a good thing. Imagine being some neutral party trying to get answers and suddenly you're dogpiled by people saying you're a sexist Gamergate MRA, with absolutely no idea of what GG or MRAs even are. They come across as complete tinfoil crackpots to the average onlooker, and the more paranoid they get the more deranged everyone sees them as.
>>5365326
i have never seen this happen before. do you live in bizarro world
>>5365373
No. I was one of those neutral parties about a year ago before I knew what GG even was.
>>5365347
Aww. I wasn't expecting that. Thank you for your kind words, Anon.
