Anyone HIV+ here ?
Discuss seriously
I'm pretty
POSTIVIE
about it
I haven't really reached that level of degeneracy yet
I'm a virgin, so no, but I'd be okay with dating a HIV+ guy if he got it in a long time relationship (and not while whoring around).
>>5337896
Well, I guess it's good you have standards...
>>5337996
Of the two people I know who are HIV+ both of them caught it from a partner who cheated.
The idea that you only get HIV from being a degenerate whore just isn't true.
>>5338005
That tends to happen moreso in couples that don't do the 2-3 tests required to get past the window period. Like one of them probably had hiv before the relationship began and they either didn't get tested or didn't test the extra time after 6 months or so before barebacking.
Should also continue to test yourself while in a relationship.
>>5338226
>delusions
My partner caught HIV 2 years and a half into our relationship. He didn't tell me he cheated on me and we had unprotected sex three times before I recognized early symptoms and told him to get tested. I'm still negative to this day, but this is how most contaminations happen and there's nothing you can do to protect you from that, except wearing a condom even after years of relationship, which is so awful you might as well cut your dick off and seal your anus forever.
ITT: Reasons PrEP should be more widely available / actually available in the UK.
What's the deal, legally speaking, if a partner contracts HIV while cheating on you and you in turn catch it?
>>5338944
I watched a small documentary on Truvada/PrEP on Vice that said the treatment is only affordable to rich guys.
So that fucks over poorfags.
Can someone go into this more?
>>5337775
I'm not a slut so no.
>>5338226
lol. gay men are lying, cheating faggots. a relationship means nothing. everyone is going to get aids
How likely it is that I got HIV from just sucking and getting my dick sucked by some guy?
>>5339070
Depends on how sick he is and on the circumstances.
Him sucking you off is not dangerous, unless he has bleeding wounds in his mouth.
You sucking him off is a bit dangerous, but if he doesn't cum into your mouth and you don't have any cuts or sores the chance is like 0.1% or so.
>>5339101
I think I'm safe then
Thanks!
>>5338901
A lot of guys are alright using condoms. There's still the chance of UTIs from anal even if you're monogamous. Plus there's no worries about poop dick either.
I guess it also depends how much anal sex you really have. If you're fucking daily you're pretty much doomed no matter what. If you only do anal like once or twice a month just pick up some OraQuick tests and test yourself and your bf monthly and the risks go way down.
It's kind of one of the reasons I always encourage people to try removing anal sex from their relationship, but you don't have to go completely anal free to be safe, just reducing how much you do it significantly reduces the risk. The symptoms of hiv often take 2-4 weeks to begin so anal once a month is pretty safe if you get tested each month. If you buy OraQuick in bulk a test each month only costs you ~$2-5.
>>5337795
CARLOSSSS
>>5339026
It only takes a single mistake.
>>5339144
You don't get HIV from protected anal sex, though.
>>5340106
Most people in relationships don't use condoms though.
>>5338957
$1,200.00 a month is what I last heard. They have some programs to lower that for poor fags, but my understanding is it is still expensive.
>>5337775
No, because I know how to take literally two seconds out of my day to put a fucking condom on, and also not fuck people who have fucked the entire fag bar down the street.
Eh, sure, I have all night.
I'm HIV+. What's up?
+fag
reporting in
Sup
HIV is a horrifying diagnosis with an even more horrifying stigma.
With all the money that's been dumped into it, it's absurd there's no proper convenient cure yet.
I'm negative karma Houdini biscum here but I have gone through the dread that comes with regular testing.
My last test results came a few days ago.
Funnily enough I think I might finally be scared straight. I'll just do my best to settle for gay furry porn or something.
>>5341107
Currently it's paid for with an insurance plan that the state covers. When I eventually get into my career I hope to be able to use my own healthcare plan to handle it.
Just got tested this Wednesday for HIV and was negative. But I'll be checking this thread to see what's going on. Also wanted to add that, my bf got a UTI from me when I was bottoming. I cleaned out for a whole hour straight, hardly eat anything the day before and I'm still unsure how that happened. Doc says to ALWAYS pee after sex.
>>5340966
>and also not fuck people who have fucked the entire fag bar down the street.
What is a liar for $500, Alex?
Med lab tech here.
I preform testing for HIV, AIDS, and basically all diseases.
Anyone have questions?
>TFW I'm the one that sends out the lab report to the doc so they can tell you that you're dying
>>5341270
Bacteria will still be present no matter how much you cleaned out. Also, eating or not eating hardly has anything to do with it. The most common bacteria that causes UTIs is e. coli. That a wild guess on where e.coli likes to hang out.
>>5341381
Ooo, oo! Wonderful.
Please help dispel some HIV controversy bullshit out there for me. My local STI clinic staff are basically a bunch of unfriendly, useless cunts.
I would very much appreciate the following be debunked/explained.
>A person's HIV status can be positive in one country or negative in another based on a region's respective fuck-giving about CD4 count or something.
>The gay bareback scene is not plagued by HIV but rather the toxicity of poppers which combined with low immune system from their sex pig lifestyles of substance abuse is what really brings about AIDS
>HIV hasn't been properly isolated from other diseases yet, except that one time everyone took the word of the scientists who were scrambling to find a virus and it's pretty much the same level of conspiracy theory as the Osama Bin Ladin "We got 'im!" being a case of they never got him.
>Why after crazy amounts of money Vs other causes has there been shit all progress toward a convenient cure or vaccine.
>What the fuck is up with this virus only giving you a 'really bad fever' for a weekend and then doing nothing but laying around your anatomy's equivalent of the couch for 10 years with no symptoms then suddenly deciding it's gonna get a full-time job which is horribly wrecking your shit.
>Gay guys who want my delicious top cock tell me it's legit safe to fuck them if they are 'undetectable' - I do not trust this but it sure would be nice to be able to accept a bounty of depraved man ass.
Please answer each of those one by one if you can because I'm a fuckin' retard <3
>>5341519
Warning, I'm not >>5341381, but...
>A person's HIV status can be positive in one country or negative in another based on a region's respective fuck-giving about CD4 count or something.
Are you sure that's not their AIDS status? IIRC AIDS status is determined by your counts, but HIV is HIV.
>Why after crazy amounts of money Vs other causes has there been shit all progress toward a convenient cure or vaccine.
Personally I'm honestly impressed at how fast they've come up with what they have considering the fact that the disease was only discovered decades ago.
>What the fuck is up with this virus only giving you a 'really bad fever' for a weekend and then doing nothing but laying around your anatomy's equivalent of the couch for 10 years with no symptoms then suddenly deciding it's gonna get a full-time job which is horribly wrecking your shit.
The fever comes from your body initially "fighting" off the new invader that is the disease. Since its method of taking a person down is shutting down their immune system, you eventually get sick from some other method, often from an illness that people normally just can't get without a compromised immune system.
>Gay guys who want my delicious top cock tell me it's legit safe to fuck them if they are 'undetectable' - I do not trust this but it sure would be nice to be able to accept a bounty of depraved man ass.
HIV is generally spread from certain fluids going into the bloodstream. So a top is by default much less likely to get HIV than a bottom (because cum). If they are ACTUALLY undetectable then it's yet more unlikely, because they have less HIV active in their system, although it's still lying around and able to remultiply if they stop taking their meds. And of course using a condom lowers the risk even more with a physical barrier. Ultimately you can technically still get the disease, but the chances are definitely way way lower, and even moreso with the condom. After that it's up to you.
>>5341644
ty for taking the time =)
>>5341519
>A person's HIV status can be positive in one country or negative in another based on a region's respective fuck-giving about CD4 count or something.
General lab diagnosis here in the USA for HIV is a CD4 T cell count of <500/uL. Once the C4 T cell count hits <200/uL, we report it out as clinical AIDS. I'm not sure about other countries, but here in the USA we go by CDC rules. I would think if you are tested positive here, if you move to another country, they would still consider you positive if your body is in fact harboring the virus and actively making antibodies to the virus.
>The gay bareback scene is not plagued by HIV but rather the toxicity of poppers which combined with low immune system from their sex pig lifestyles of substance abuse is what really brings about AIDS
HIV is an actual virus, not just suppression of the immune system. The virus is a member of the retroviridae family. When we run a test for HIV, we are not only looking at your t cell count, we are looking for HIV antibodies that your body is making to combat the virus. You have to test positive for 2 out of the 3 possible markers to confirm that you do have the virus. Every patient is different. Some people have rather good immune systems before they contact the virus and live longer and prolong the progression of the virus. Some people with weak immune systems to begin with (druggies, alcoholics, malnutrition) will progress quicker due to an already suppressed immune system. Medication helps, but it is not a certain.
>>5341519
>HIV hasn't been properly isolated from other diseases yet, except that one time everyone took the word of the scientists who were scrambling to find a virus and it's pretty much the same level of conspiracy theory as the Osama Bin Ladin "We got 'im!" being a case of they never got him.
We know more about HIV now. We know the components of the virus, which is what we look for when we run the lab test. HIV weakens your immune system and makes you vulnerable to a variety of infections and malignancies due to your body's inability to fight whatever is plaguing you.
>Why after crazy amounts of money Vs other causes has there been shit all progress toward a convenient cure or vaccine.
I'm not sure what you are asking here. Are you asking why there isn't a convenient cure or vaccine yet?
If that is your question:
HIV is a virus. Like all viruses, it has a high mutation rate which is why it is very difficult to cure viruses. We now know of several strains of HIV. HIV-1 (being the most common), HIV-2 (mainly found in West Africa, but it is becoming more widespread), HIV-3,HIV-4.... I remember my medical microbiology professor telling us that we can work towards a cure for a strain for HIV, but by the time we have found the cure for that strain, it would have already mutated and we would have to start over. The best we can do now is try to suppress the virus from replicating in the host body to prolong the patients live. A cure is far beyond our reach right now.
>>5341519
>What the fuck is up with this virus only giving you a 'really bad fever' for a weekend and then doing nothing but laying around your anatomy's equivalent of the couch for 10 years with no symptoms then suddenly deciding it's gonna get a full-time job which is horribly wrecking your shit.
Viruses and other microorganism are really cool.
HIV works in stages.
The primary stage will start with a burst of viral particles in the blood. The virus will rapidly reduce and eventually HIV antibodies appear and we are able to detect it in the patient's blood or other body fluids. These HIV antibodies appear about 12 weeks after infection. HIV is actually able to escape the immune response by undergoing antigen variation so the patient's immune system won't fight it. Not everyone will have symptoms. It can be asymptomatic. So, you can have the virus and not know it.
The latent stage can progress rapidly or be asymptomatic for 10 years or more (depends on the patient). The virus will continue to replicate in your lymph tissues with only a small amount of virus present in your blood. HIV replication and destruction by the immune system is at equilibrium so that is why there may be no symptoms in this stage. Basically: viral particles and the viral particles destroy the CD4 T helper cells but the replication of the virus and destruction of the tissues is balanced.
During the clinical AIDS stage, the immune system fails to maintain equilibrium because of continuous viral replication and reinfection of CD4 T cells. Severe depression of immune response depletes CD4 T helper cells. as HIV continues to multiply it will start to destroy T helper cells faster than the body can produce them. Patient’s immune system begins to suffer; the patient is more susceptibility to infections.
>>5341519
>Gay guys who want my delicious top cock tell me it's legit safe to fuck them if they are 'undetectable' - I do not trust this but it sure would be nice to be able to accept a bounty of depraved man ass.
If they claim to be undetectable, then they are in the latent stage. Like I said before, the virus is still actively replicating in their body. They are still able to infect you. It is put to you if you are willing to take the risk. HIV is present in all body fluids. Yes, even saliva and tears. Although, I’ve only heard of one case in which a person contacted the virus through kissing. Very strange.
I can sit here and write to you of all the diseases I’ve seen in HIV and AIDS patients. Some are terrifying. Usually when a patient hits AIDS status, they won’t be alive much longer.
I hope this has clarified some stuff for you!
>>5341381
Grim reaper
I have never had gay sex but i had protected vaginal sex with about 10 hookers and had unprotected oral from them. What are my chances of the aids?
I went to some weird apartment group sex thing once
I basically fucked this dude in the ass, wearing a condom and some other guy fingered me
What's the chance I caught something, assuming they had it?
>>5341744
Is viral load based on the amount in the blood or amount in tissue?
I met a guy on Grindr who seemed nice, he put a hole in his condom and gave it to me.
>>5341981
I once rode a water slide where someone had stuck razorblades into the slide with aids blood on, that's how I got it.
>>5341792
Both.
>>5337775
What if I have it and want to kill myself is there anyway to go to a hospital and ask them to euthanized me?
>>5341987
i swear that's some urban legend shit
So, if I only top and always wear a condom, I should be pretty safe, right?
>>5341791
>Condom
>You fucked.
Very low unless they were scooping poz cum on their fingers and shoving it in you.
But if its real peace of mind you need, get tested.
To all the guys asking:
>If I did X, when I was also doing Y, what are my chances of...
Just get tested. Always be as safe as you feel is reasonable, and get tested frequently if you're sexually active.
1 in 4 HIV+ people don't know they're positive. The ONLY way you can be 100% sure is if you get tested.
>>5343062
>Get tested frequently
Getting a text that says whether you're gonna die or not takes the fun out of sex.
>>5338957
PreP/Truvada should only be a one-time use option anyways.
>>5343062
This. If you're negative then you have peace of mind. If you're positive then you get start treatment quickly instead of finding out because you're suddenly in the emergency room for some disease that you should be too young/first world to be getting.
>>5343354
Maybe it's because I never had much issue with condom'd sex but it's interesting that it often becoming an alternative to condoms for some. I personally think it mainly makes sense for people in a relationship with a positive dude, but if you're willing to shell out the money for getting cummed inside with more safety than before than knock yourself out.
>>5338901
THis is why I would never cheat on my partner bareback
as a straight male who recently got genital herpes it's interesting to read this thread.
>>5343146
>not being typhoid mary scum takes the fun out of sex
kill yourself, damn plague vector
>>5343062
So what will happen to these 25% of people? At what stage is treatment no longer effective?
>>5344999
But you'd cheat with a condom on?
>>5337775
A reminder to all HIV+ people that they should end themselves and they're one of the main reasons why people hate gays.
>>5341381
Did you operate a Prism? I did testing too in bulk. Honestly, more people have HCV than HIV. It was probably a 3:1 ratio on my shift.
>>5337896
>hiv+
>long term relationship
I see what you did there
>>5341987
HIV virus dies within seconds of touching the air.
I'll take shit that never happened for 500 Alex.
>>5337896
Social Darwinism is slowly weeding you guys out one by one. No way in hell I'm dating a zombie trying to spread his ass rot into my perfectly functional immune system.
>>5351122
holy hell wtf is wrong with all you fags.
>>5352254
Bug chasers are sick in the head.
I'm a negative in a serodiscordant relationship, AMA.
>>5353123
Had you considered dating a positive guy before your partner?
Are there any hangups that had to be battled during the relationship?
>>5353123
Why
>>5353432
I never really thought about it. If the guy was nice, why not? I was a biology student and very informed about health at that time. He revealed his condition after 2 days we've met and it didn't really shock me to the point of being afraid or disgusted. We're now 2 years together.
Hangups, yes, but now this is something specific about my case. We had sex just a couple of times because he's too afraid to contaminate me, even protected and even though his viral charge is undetectable. Oral sex, never if I have an injury in the mouth. This will hopefully change once I start PrEP.
Outside of sex, our relationship is as normal as anybody else's
>>5353588
The fear of spreading the virus is a real one in serodiscordant relationships. I hope you can get into a feeling of mutual comfort so you can enjoy that side of the relationship too.
Has he had any guilt/depression about his status while you were together, or did he work through most of that prior to meeting you? Sincey ou mention being afraid to spread the virus to the point of limiting sex, I'm assuming there's some personal feelings in the mix.
>>5353027
they're usually sick in the everything.
>>5353598
He dealt with it before meeting me. Some 3-4 years. He had a promiscuous life but ironically, what got him infected was an ex-bf that cheated on him.
He's not depressed but the therapy hits him really hard. He doesn't complain, but there's always stomach pain, diarrhea, nausea, fever, vertigo, vomiting... the list of side effects are huge.
>>5353756
Huh. What's he taking? I'm a pos anon and my medication (Complera) doesn't really have any notable side effects. But when I was on Atripla it made me either VERY hard to wake up around bed time, or fatigued if I took it during my wake hours. There were more effects when I first started but that was only over a 2 or 3 week period, nothing crazy in the long run. Oddly I was able to significantly lesson the effects by exercising before they took hold. I've never seen anyone say that they did this anywhere so it could be pretty much broscience, but it was very effective for me.
>>5353905
Kivexa, norvir and reyataz.
I cant believe there are hiv+ people on 4chan.
I think this board is attracting way too many normies.
>>5338944
what about the longterm sideeffects? You can't take that kind of shit for years and it not do something to you when you get older. I don't wanna be 60 and have to shit in a bag because some pill fucked up my colon.
>>5354443
The most common side effect with age is liver and kidney failure. But when that happens you're probably going to die anyway. Plus it doesn't really happen until you're like 70 years old anyway.
Pretty sure it's quite rare for those on antiretrovirals to have a natural death, it's usually always organ failure. One study i saw said that only 2% of people on antiretrovirals have a death unrelated to the meds, but about 20-25% of deaths are organ failure.
>Not posting new poster boy of HIV
ONE JOB OP!!!!
>>5353432
Does he prepare any food?
I imagine he'd be terrified of cutting himself accidentally and getting blood on the tools/in the food...
>>5354862
Yes, we both cook.
Not at all, he's confident in his cooking skills and if it happened, It wouldn't be so grave, as for example, an injury in his mouth or teeh bleeding; we would stop kissing until healed.
Is it possible to have HIV and repeated show up as negative in frequent tests? I've been feeling like my body doesn't deal with illness like it should for a while now and my energy level has been decreasing for years now.
Its terrifying because I'd hate to give it to someone else
>>5358384
Not over the course of YEARS. The window is like 8 months at the biggest extreme. You're just being overly paranoid, at least in terms of HIV.
>>5358384
If it's not emotion related, could be parasites
How high is the HIV risk when on top?
I was having a 3some, and while lying down one dude got my dick into his ass for 5 seconds. Should I get scared?
>>5361232
http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/law/pdf/Hivtranmsmision.pdf
>>5361251
Well, my dude says he's clean because he gets tested every 6 months for work, but I'm still scared shitless.
Are HIV test results given immediately?
>>5361262
HIV tests results are given within minutes usually, but they can only detect anti-bodies that require AT LEAST 6 weeks to show and can take as long as 12 to show.
Always get tested yourself anon, you're probably fine, but you can't be certain unless you've been tested.
Once every 6 months isn't that frequent - me and my partner get tested every 3 months.
>>5354496
Thanks for making it that much harder for me to get an HIV test
>>5361278
He should get tested regardless, but I always felt like once every 6 was sufficient. It really depends on the person. People that do more riskier sex or are in a sex industry should get tested more.
>>5361385
The prospect of a positive is scary, but it's better either way. Negative=peace of mind. Positive=get started with therapy sooner so you aren't getting disease complications. Antiretrovirals may be harsh on the body, but if you do happen to be positive and you don't get tested, then you get fun disease complications...and THEN the antiretrovirals later. Assuming you don't let it get to AIDS levels where your death is looming over you.
It may be scary, but just get tested and make it a routine.
