I identify as gay and am a total bottom, but I hate gay porn. I can only get off to straight born. Anyone else have this situation?
Funny thing is it's usually the opposite with straight people worried because they can only get off to gay stuff lol
Gay porn is shit desu
oh, another trans thread.
>>5299296
Lol how is this a trans thread? I said I was gay, not mtf
>>5299270
I've heard this before and maybe this is it. The guys just don't seem to get into it that much sometimes, idk.
You want to be a girl and haven't accepted it yet
Some of the guy in gay porn are straight.
Straight porn for dudes = paycheck in the $100s
Gay porn for dudes = paycheck in the $1000s or $10,000s
>>5299400
this desu OP
Immediately after thinking I was gay I realized I wanted a vagina and to take some nice dick in it
you don't like girls because you're a straight girl
I'm straight but find it much easier to get off to gay porn
I feel kind of guilty that I can mostly only get off to the straight porn. Like it makes me less gay or diminishes my attraction to men somehow.
>>5299400
Tbh this wouldn't surprise me that much. I like girly shit and the hardest I ever came from masturbating was when I was camming with an old guy and asked him if he'd fuck me like a girl.
>>5299414
Lol when I got my first pubes I remember thinking that my dick was doing to fall off and I was going to have a vagina. No idea how that idea got into my head.
Anyways, at least at the moment I don't think I'm trans lol. Even though I'm not doing much to support my case.
>>5299430
in all seriousness just do what you feel right with OP
you sound like you might want to be a girl
but maybe you're just a really femme gay dude or something
>>5299434
Yeah what I masturbate to is no ones business but mine (except when I share my habits on the internet apparently lol)
I act pretty feminine I guess, but I don't really look the part. I went through a I'M NOT GAY I DON'T LIKE DUDES IM GONNA LIFT WEIGHTS UNTIL MY FEELS GO AWAY phase that left me pretty ripped, which actually depressed me for a while but I'm slowly becoming more ok with. Dudes dig the body, so I guess there are worse things I could havfe done to cope.
>>5299416
Why?
>>5299519
it's just more exciting, could be bi too, but I've never had interest in men outside if porb
>>5299266
And you wonder why mainstream society has trouble understanding you.
>>5299266
Hey op, im not a robot,
You sound just like me. Though I would add, seeing trap porn does make we a little horny, but ultimately I can only get off to straight porn.
I used to think I was trans, but now I just think Im a crossdresser. Its strange, i've only been on a few dates with girls, and its always been them asking me for the most part. I go along with the dates thinking thats what I should do, yet I do feel attraction, yet nothing so strong that my male genes set all signals to fuck. I once had a girl come over to my house, she brushed her bare feet against me, took a nap on my couch for like a solid hour (keep in mind that we had basically just met, and looking back it seems as though any real straight male would have jumped on that). I suspect that I would really enjoy anal, but I have yet to buy a toy, and bananas are out of the question.
What do you guys think is my deal? I have fantasies of getting fucked by a guy while dressed as a girl, but can only get off to straight porn.
>>5299610
maybe ur a sissy
or trans in denial, which i only say because i've known some trans people who try to suppress their feelings later after coming out, only to inevitably go through with it
>>5299610
OP here:
Ever had sex with a guy? (Or girl for that matter?)
Maybe just experiment and see what you like. I know it felt right being with a guy when I tried it. Never actually had sex with a girl, but used to force myself to try to be attracted to them and it made it difficult to associate with women in a platonic sense because I always felt this pressure, this "oh, I'm supposed to be attracted to you and try to get into your pants but I don't want to" feeling. After being with a guy and figuring out that I like to be with men IRL then this went away and now I like having female friends.
Still don't like gay porn though lol
>Hey I'm a gay dude but I can only self-insert in girls getting fugged by dudes when I watch porn
>Lol no I'm not trans, I'm a gay dude
>I like girly things, self-inserting as a girl is the best and I wish I had a vagina, but I don't think I'm trans lol
>I went into a denial phase with body building and got depressed because of my gross muscles, b-but I'm totaly a guy!
>>5299667
W-what do I do then senpai?
>>5299674
It's okay, you'll eventually accept to take titty skittles, then you'll accept the fact you'll be a dude with boobs forever and you'll make all the low-standard chasers happy.
>>5299677
I hope mugi comes and wrecks your shit!
you're a b-bakaX1000
i-its not like I enjoy talking to you or anything...
>>5299667
OP again:
Fuck off. I can't tell if you're doing some kind of constructive trolling or just being a prick.
>I went into a denial phase with body building and got depressed because of my gross muscles, b-but I'm totaly a guy!
Yeah, I am totally a guy. A muscular, attractive guy. I may not entirely like how I look, but I would rather be desired and unhappy with my appearances than maybe a little more happy with my looks but being completely undesirable. I'm literally bulimic from how hard I used to diet and I DO NOT want to get fucking fat.
>>5299677
I already decided that if I legit LEGIT no doubt no second thoughts decide that I am somehow a woman in a man's body, I will run into the fucking woods and hang myself, or take as many pills as I can get my hands on and drink a ton of alcohol. Fuck being a tranny.
Anyways.
>>5299690
Don't do it OP! Suicide isn't the answer!
>>5299697
You are a son of a bitch. I make a legitimate thread with an honest question and now I am getting fucked with.
Go to hell.
>>5299404
no way they are straight. they have to be bi. unless they are doing solo scenes.
>>5299266
I get off to the most, in order, shemale porn, sissies, gay, then straight. Straight porn is insufferable with the girls moaning the second the guy glances at their vagina. At least with gay porn the moaning only starts when the dude is getting his ass smashed into the ground.
>>5299266
>tfw I am the same
Am I trans?
>gay male
>only get off to girls getting off
mfw
>>5299325
Do you self insert as the girl in the porn? If so you're probably a tranny
>>5299266
Not a bottom.. but
No I agree, gay porn is disgusting.
Too much hair, effay muscles, and HIV.
And then the twink videos are hello Mr. 6" Skeletal with 5/10 face.
>>5299667
>trannies shitting up lgb with their obnoxious weeb posts and tryhard conscription.
sage for b8
p.s. you'll never not be your birth sex.
>>5300609
How do you figure
>>5299690
You may view it as trolling, but you might actually be trans, OP.
In all seriousness, the things youve said about yourself sound much like what an mtf would say. Nobody wants to be trans. I understand this. However it is much worse to realize and accept that you're trans when you've become an old man and such.
You should ponder the issue greatly, rather than shove it under the rug. I say this all with kindness and I'm not trying to be hurtful or anything.
How would you feel if you woke up tomorrow as a girl? Also, how do you feel when you think of yourself as an older guy - harier, mannish skin, possibly balding, but very much manly in features - perhaps greasy a bit, strong manly face, no femininity about you whatsoever?
>>5299266
I rarely watch studio porn. It's boring, cliched and blatantly void of intimacy.
Amateur is the best. Both straight and gay. I feel like I'm actually there watching actual people have a great time. And that's hot. I only watch solos of guys though.
But I understand your preference for straight porn. Most guys are straight. And most hot guys are straight. Seeing a hot guy having sex in general is awesome. And because they are usually straight... well, there you go.
Of course, two hot gay guys having sex is like hitting the lottery for me but I don't mind pussy. At all actually. Seeing a hot guy pound some pussy is hot. Especially if there are a lot of ass shots. Of the dude obviously.
I've been into MMF threesomes lately.
>>5303943
OP here (again):
I am terrified of being old and ugly. Fuck that. If I woke up tomorrow as an old asshole I would for sure kill myself.
>>5304248
What about if you were a qt grill? Would that be preferable? Would you rather be that than what you are now?
>>5304334
OP's repression mostly comes from the fear of being ugly and an undesirable freak I think.
>>5299452
this is classic tranny repression, you even sound like the tripfag Kayla from mtfg who did pretty much the exact same thing you're describing
also a lot of transgirls' first realisations about wanting to be a girl or take the female role is, yep, from self-inserting as the female in straight porn
not saying you're definitely trans, but the things you're describing fit the narrative and you should probably think long and hard about it straight away and not just outright object it just because it hasn't come up until now
>>5307326
How old are you? Depending on bone structure and age you might have an easy time becoming an grille. You definitely seem to be MtF. If that is the case, not transitioning is only going to make it worse.
>>5307601
Even if I discovered that I was for sure trans, idk if I would ever be able to transition or if I would actually just kill myself. I am still in the closet about being gay except to some close friends. If any of them knew I was even questioning about my gender, I would be so embarrassed and ashamed.
Mentally, I haven't really allowed myself to seriously consider being trans because I am absolutely terrified of doing something drastic like coming out and transitioning and then discovering that I'm not actually trans, just a faggot and fucked up in the head. It's entirely possible that I am just crazy. I have serious daddy issues (which I think might have made me gay idk), I'm bulimic, I abuse the shit out alcohol and might be an alcoholic at the ripe young age of 19, and I'm probably borderline (Just like my alcoholic, BPD papa! Go figure..)
>>5307725
I'm 19. No idea about bone structure, but as I mentioned earlier I'm built like a tank. Not fat but way too muscular to ever pass imo. I'm 5 10 which is tall for a girl and 185 lbs.
>>5307779
>I'm 19. No idea about bone structure, but as I mentioned earlier I'm built like a tank. Not fat but way too muscular to ever pass imo. I'm 5 10 which is tall for a girl and 185 lbs.
Muscle isn't a problem, HRT basically gets rid of it
>>5307779
>I am absolutely terrified of doing something drastic like coming out and transitioning and then discovering that I'm not actually trans, just a faggot and fucked up in the head. It's entirely possible that I am just crazy.
take it from me, you never stop telling yourself this and eventually it eats you up from inside and ten years has passed and you realise you blew your chance but then you transition anyway because the other option is suicide and you are much too afraid of death because your heart and soul are delicate flowers and you have been stomping on them.
tldr: see a therapist
>>5307793
How do my bones look? Out of curiosity.
Pic attached I took for a boy. Weird angle is to look thinner. Lol.
>>5307793
And a pic containing face, which is most important I would imagine? Hair is messy but you get the idea.
>>5307810
>tldr: see a therapist
I should. My crazy ex-bf works at my uni clinic where I would go for that, so idk how to get around that
Oh yeah, I totally get what you mean. I'm a totally normal non-degenerate person but can only get off to loli. I don't know what to do.
>>5307830
just like, if he asks say you are dealing with trauma and whatever
if he reads that you think you are a tranny and it gets out then you can sue for breach of practice/breach of trust afaik.
but anyway if you are worried about that, try and tell the therapist that you're worried about that.
>>5307858
I don't care what he thinks about me, but he told me that he's gonna beat the shit out of me next time he sees me and threatened to out me on social media. I'm pretty built but he is literally a nationally qualified power lifter and has been in fights before and I never have.
>>5307946
I'll just call the clinic and get his schedule if I can
>>5308179
yeh probably smart.
why do guys have to act like that all the time :/
like... when I was in repression I just couldn't understand how guys would act like meatheads amongst each other
>>5308274
Yeah boys are stupid lol
OP just got indocrtinated into trannydom
Screw being a tranny. Gonna def see a counselor of some sort though.
Have a cute picture.
>>5300609
I don't think he inserts himself into the girl at any point. He already said that he's a gay bottom. How many hints do you need?
>>5299690
I know that you said that you haven't really thought about being trans, but the way you're talking about knowing that you would kill yourself if you thought you were trans really does sound like you have thought about it before.
You know, at least you've thought about it subconsciously.
That doesn't mean that you are trans, but it's something to consider. Especially considering you have a self reported history of denial.
Also, if you're gonna say OP every single time you post in this thread, just put your name as OP. It will make things easier for you.
>>5309180
sounds like he is trans but doesnt want to be
>>5309185
Well, it's obvious that he doesn't want to be trans. Though it's hard to say that he is just because of his choice in porn and his adamant denial of it. If those things determined your identity, then half the faggots on 4chan wouldn't even consider themselves human.
But that's all debatable and besides the point. The real point of this thread so far that OP just needs some time to sit and think about it.
>>5309180
Good idea. Added the name.
Really the only times I've thought about it was deciding that I'd rather die than be trans & basically consciously avoiding thinking about it.
I am definitely a big denial person though. Which I don't really know if I can fix. I have thought that it would be interesting to take blockers and replace meat with soy in my diet and see what happens but I'd hate to fuck over my body if I don't like it or for someone to see the meds.
This thread got very off-topic.
>>5309227
Welcome to 4chan!
>Pic has never been more related
>>5309215
>I have thought that it would be interesting to take blockers and replace meat with soy in my diet and see what happens
but you have given it zero thought
>>5309350
I guess I meant like actual thought, like how I would go about this or how I felt.
Or maybe I'm delusional. At the very least I'm making no sense. Who knows, I sure don't.
>>5309383
Just do it man, imagine being a cute, soft little girl bouncing on a big cock
>>5309390
i mean sounds good but I'm not and that's entirely different than living my whole life as a girl, and a manly one at that
>>5307825
your body looks fine tbqh, it's difficult to say about your face because it's kinda podgy, idk
but you should absolutely see a gender therapist to explore these feelings deeper or you're gonna be in for a rough ride in a few years time
>>5309390
Lol as if this ever happens to anyone transitioning past 20, you'd be lucky to not be a hun.
>>5309162
well that's what happens when you make a thread about self-inserting as a girl in porn
Don't ruin your life op, transitioning is usually a hell with not light in sight. Everyone will treat you like shit if you don't pass, and you will be forever alone and just end up fucking gay guys anyway.
May as well be gay op.
Unless you have tons of money to sink into surgeries/paying off doctors.
>>5310324
alternatively they could be ruining their life if they are trans
the best thing to do is to see a therapist and figure it out
>>5311066
Dude he's not mentioned any feelings of dysphoria, he literally just said he likes jerking off to straight porn. Why do you have to ruin this idiot's life due to his choices in pornography.
>>5311090
he has said other stuff like taking the female perspective and thinking about taking blockers and estrogen
he is confused
either way a therapist will help him
I did some googling and read that there are some other people like me who only like the straight porn even though they're gay. Most of the stuff I was reading said they liked to self insert as a girl and that straight porn looks way more natural, which I would agree with.
Trannies want you to become one of them.
>>5314869
>trannies itt
>okay you might be trans go see a therapist and try to figure it out for yourself
>gays itt
>OMG YOU ARE JUST A GAY DONT LISTEN TO THE TRANNIES THEY ARE MENTALLY ILL
>what turns you on
>what you actually fuck
are distinct things that don't have to overlap
attraction and behavior are different
>>5315287
I'm learning this to be true about myself too.
>be lez
>fantasize about burly bearded men ravishing me
>think about servicing their cocks and being a huge whore for them
>so hot, cum really hard when I fap
IRL
>typical monogamous Uhaul-on-the-second-date lesbian
>10/10 guys hit in me and IDGAF
>6/10 lesbian walks by and smiles at me and I just melt
>>5315316
>>be lez
>>fantasize about burly bearded men ravishing me
>>think about servicing their cocks and being a huge whore for them
>>5315331
people have empathic imaginations
in the same way we don't require our legal judges to be murderers and criminals, but still respect their opinions on murder and crime.
i like playing tomb raider
doesn't mean i want to be a woman
or vandalize graves
or shoot people
or get off the couch
>what you think
>what you do
different things.
>>5315344
Option A. He'll be more likely to eat me out if my ass is filled with cake
>>5315344
The cake seems unpleasant in both scenarios
>>5315344
>eating a fat stack of refined carbs
I'll take a dick in both my mouth AND ass, thank you very much.
>>5299667
They weren't joking when they said /lgbt/ has a crazy need to convince everyone they're trans.
I don't get it, as a gay guy that loves cock and hates women, why would I become or even consider being trans, even if I subconsciously identify as a female in porn? It boggles my mind.
>>5315650
Because your hatred for women is just repressed envy because they have power over men that you will never have.
>>5315650
Why would you identify as a woman in porn instead of a man?
>>5315650
a lot of people on this board have this idea that gender identity is black and white... and that's obviously false. gender and sexuality are obviously much more complicated than that.
both are spectrums.
are you comfortable identifying as male?
do you like male pronouns?
do you like presenting as male?
unless you're answering no, it's probably best you don't transition.
a therapist is always a good idea if you're legitimately confused though.
>>5315650
Because you like the position and dynamic. I'm gay porn it's either mostly equal or just a guy degrading another dude. As a submissive bottom you want a more obviously feminine role. It doesn't mean you wanna be a woman, you just want to be treated more like how a guy treats a woman, where she's desired and ravished and taken advantage of. In most gay porn that dynamic isn't really there it's just two dudes acting thirsty and less of a clear feminine/masculine interplay. I like it from the other side since I'm dom, doesn't mean I'm straight. Lol
People here always take these preferences to logical extremes, but you can be on a spectrum or just like certain aspects of things. It doesn't mean you'll inevitably go down some dramatic path to transitioning.
>>5315673
>unless you're answering no, it's probably best you don't transition.
desu I don't know why you would consider transitioning in the first place unless you'd answer no to those
>>5315692
well op seems to be answering yes to those and people are still asking him to seek a gender therapist.
so thanks for proving my point anon. :)
>>5315685
yeah it's best to take posts on this board with a grain of salt when it comes to these types of issues.
as one submissive gay guy to another, you do you, man.
Just because I want to take it up the ass and be feminine doesn't mean that I want to be a girl
Not necessarily, anyways
>>5315344
For your image, are the candles lit?
I won't insert a lit candle up my pucci.
It's just not cricket.
Uh, just become a shemale/newhalf.
You're still male + gay, but are comfortable to take on female-attributed characteristics.
You get to keep your cock, suck cock, and wear a mini skirt so the guy behind you gets extra teased for your ass.
Solved.
>>5318267
>Uh, just become a shemale/newhalf.
What does this even mean lol
>>5299667
>self-inserting as a girl in straight porn
Is this a new meme?
I'd like gay porn more if there were more twink/bear scenes. When I do, my dick rockets off to the sky.
>>5299690
I was the same way op. But ya I transitioned. But not saying you should.Well iinstead of only watching straight porn I only watched transporn and self inserted as the gurl. I mean I had a hot muscular body like you from working out all of high school. But desu the first time I hooked up with a guy who wanted me as a trans girl or someone feminine at least who identified as straight it was hotter than shit. And I fantasized about it all the time. It was better than any sex I could obtain with my hot guy body. Goodluck in your life. Transitioning could be a dead end anyway if you don't havea feminine face and ccan't afford ffs
>>5299610
I could be that straight guy for you....
> please
gay porn is shit. guys have small to average penses. they're not straight acting. ugly bodies.
watching a straight guy have sex is a lot hotter than watching ugly, small pensis fems having sex.
