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>tfw too much OP
>>5297819
Is that a giant turkey or a deformed pig?
Rawr doxxed elanna booger and ufufu and needs to fuck off!
You dun goofed samantha
>you will never pass
>you will never be able to fix your face
>you will never stop getting sad when seeing passing people and cis girls and just be okay with yourself
Why go on?
>>5297819
Turkey?! I wasn't aware it was Christmas...
>tfw you will never be as cute as elanna
why live
>>5297835
Just kill yourself already rawr
>>5297835
idk tbqh but watch out, if you're as ugly as you say like me then you'll get shit for posting things like this, idgi
People talking about coming across their old friends again has made me wonder what it would be like to talk to one of the old people I knew now that I'm in girl mode.
>tfw used to have guy friends
>tfw they all happened to be considered attractive by other girls
>other girls felt jealous I used to hang out with the qt boys
>tfw not even straight
>>5297831
its your silhouette
>>5297829
>>5297833
>tfw fucked up the general ;_;
>You need to let go of that notion that anything short of frilly dresses and anorexic builds is manly. Femininity comes in all shapes and sizes. You just sound like you are projecting your own insecurities..
Hahahahahaha oh wow
>>5297819
>oversized turkey
>oversized OP
typical america
>>5297825
iktf
I'm so depressed everything that's supposed to be inspiring just makes me feel even more hopeless
>>5297838
tbf if we all killed ourselves over her posting a nice pic then she'd probably feel really terrible so I guess that's one reason
>>5297825
Don't even think about it.
>>5297808
Thanks ^^
>>5297804
Cmon, someday ;_;
>>5297807
Why?
>>5297843
It's okay have a headpat
>>5297844
It's retard-san aka marathonanon. He doesn't know shit and likely isn't even employed.
>>5297852
its rawr, pay that troglodyte no attention
>>5297852
>Why?
It's safe to assume that anyone insulting you is rawr in a jealous rage, best to just ignore HER.
Tfw you spend thanksgiving alone in an empty house and eat nachos :/
>>5297832
When did I ever get doxxed?
>>5297839
I'm not rawr.
>>5297840
I probably have you beat in some features.
>>5297846
w-what
>>5297863
i want some nachos
>tfw not feminine enough to pull off neet tomboy aesthetic
>tfw australian so no thanksgiving
;~;
>>5297859
Fuck you delusional hon
>tfw just realised I'm probably going to run out of spiro halfway through the xmas holidays when I'm home with my parents and won't have more money til late january
well shit
>>5297853
thank you,
I still feel pretty embarrassed and dumb
>tfw no one to headpat you irl ;_;
>>5297846
im glad i contribute something to this general
>>5297844
I hope you look good in frilly dresses (but you probably don't).
>>5297855
I love you too anon.
>>5297876
I'm not rawr!
>>5297852
Going to detrans
I'll never be cute and there's no point if you can't be cute
>>5297866
i don't care who you are but don't post chaika!!!
>>5297852
>Cmon, someday ;_;
not for some of us
especially those of us who literally do not have one facial feature that passes
>>5297881
To the world maddie-chan, to the world.
>>5297867
Id give you nachos.
>>5297885
I think so.
Have you seen mine?
I'm extremely masculine.
>>5297888
I do what I want.
everything I ever do I screw up
life isnt worth living
>>5297884
Yes you are, faggot. Are you gonna dox me for seeing through your shit, you psychotic fuckwit?
does anyone have advice/exercises for making legs look more feminine? they look fine if i lay them out flat while sitting down but from standing up they just kinda look like guy legs, and i want to go out in skirts more / etc
>>5297898
plz ;~; she makes me sad
>>5297907
>it's ok to be a ugly women
No, no it isn't
>>5297901
I'm just a swedish hon, there is no need to bully.
>>5297909
Two bad nerdlord
>>5297912
Anon plz i beg of you deep down from my honny heart
>>5297819
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlqyKZpZHac
gonna send my gf a british love package of all kinds of fun brit stuff like chocolate that doesn't taste a bit weird, decent tea and all that kinda chintzy tat Yanks lap up like thanksgiving gravy dripping off a table
>>5297918
No it isn't
Beautiful women > men > ugly men > ugly women
>>5297920
fuck off feefs
>>5297916
its a shame american candy is pretty bad, i bought some butterfingers and hersheys, the butterfingers were okay but the hersheys tasted literally like vomit
>>5297913
Make me.
Nth for naptime
>>5297924
how do you know she is feefs?
>>5297927
Are you still here shitposting? Go to bed.
>>5297931
i don't
>>5297918
I want to be cute but I'm not sure if I could ever achieve that. These feels are killing me right now. What do I do?
>>5297933
>2am
>restless because of meds
I cannot, it's too early.
I'm wearing a bra for the first time while everyone isn't here
I'm so happy!!!!
>>5297939
i beg of you
>>5297935
Abandon the sadness and work hard at being cute. You literally have your entire life to get there.
>>5297941
Goncrabulations
>>5297944
Yes yes okay, I am sorry.
>>5297935
i like to either put on makeup/femme clothes/do grooming stuff like shave my legs when i feel shitty, or if that doesn't work go to sleep. idk dysphoria suxx
>tfw couldn't sleep last night and crashed at 6AM
>tfw missed thanksgiving with my brother and have spent the entire day sitting in my room.
here you go bully anon. now leave me alone with this shaved head meme.
>>5297953
fag
>>5297951
;~; thank you anon
>tfw old friends trying really hard to contact you
Leave me be pls
>>5297960
I hope you get hit by a bus
>>5297960
you look like a non passing ftm
TFW when girly ham better than benis.
>>5297964
>tfw friends who you haven't talked to in over a year try to get together with you
>>5297907
ffs can only do so much and anyway it's a bit of a crapshoot for me to have extensive, invasive, irreversible facial surgery just to cope with life
>>5297943
idk I mean in a way yes but on the other hand, being an ugly tranny makes lots of people treat you 100% worse than if you're an ugly man and, to a lesser extent, if you're an ugly cis woman
and now other people treat you is a significant part of life, unless you're a shut-in neet and want to stay that way until you die
>>5297960
looking good
>>5297944
>>5297913
>>5297909
>tfw making note of wongor's triggers
>>5297963
Height doesn't matter as much as you think, plus it's hard to get a bearing on how cute you may be post transition. I looked pretty fucking ugly pretransition.
>>5297973
>tfw they send you friend requests on stim, text you and leave comments
Fuck off, I am a degenerate now.
Now that ffs botched me, there's just nothing to live for.
>>5297960
waaah cuuute
was it scary? if i tried to cut off that much hair i'd probably just pass out from the terror ;_;
>>5297963
Then why worry? Youre not even a single day into transitioning. You should be preparing - instead of fearing what happens. Having faith and hard work really goes a long way.
I need laser so bad but then again my face would still just look like it does in that shibari pic, megahonnish and creepy as usual, just with nothing to hide it behind anymore
>>5297952
>tfw feeling shitty
>tfw doing fem stuff just accentuates everything about my body that I hate so instead I just go grey featureless blob mode and wear a tracksuit and try to ignore my facial hair
>tfw would like to sleep the time way rn but I have work to finish
>>5297935
hey where in australia are you? : 3
>>5297981
iktf
My old friends aren't even relatable or even fuckable
>>5297983
Don't you often complain that it's physically impossible for you to shave? How are you supposed to get your hair lasered off if you don't shave it down to the skin before the session?
>>5297980
Yeah I guess so, sorry I'm just being driven to tears as a result of these feelings. I really need to find a distraction
>>5297990
Near Melbourne
>>5297991
Three out of four are alright looking and taller than me but the one I like the most is a manlet.
I just want to be left alone.
>>5297980
>I looked pretty fucking ugly pretransition.
i don't believe that
How soon into hrt did you start passing? a month? 2?
>>5297993
vidya is always a good distraction, find a good rpg or mmo and go nuts
>>5297976
This
I got ffs and now I'm a botched mess
>>5297960
boogs is cute and looks like my twink boss i used to flirt with outrageously until i got a gf and forgot how to flirt with others
>>5297973
>high school friend sends Facebook message wanting to hang out next summer
Haha
Ahahaha
Hahahaha
Why did i even say maybe
>>5297997
aww damn, need more sydney girls!
>>5297984
see this is what I'm scared of
>>5297992
deleted because doublepost. It's less that it's physically impossible and more that it totally fucks up my skin and I have rashes and scabs and shit for the next week or two
I'll brave it for laser
>>5298019
At least you have an excellent non-transition reasons to drop your friends.
>>5298007
yah i know but cutting off that much hair seems so scary regardless of how you identify
how the fuck do people without supportive parents stay sane during puberty, everything is wrong and getting worse all the time fuck.
seriously how did you all manage to cope before you were able to get on hrt? i think i am losing my mind here.
I sort of just spend all my time either in bed or on the computer trying to distract myself
>>5298019
He was really cool though
I'm not sure how supportive he'll be but that can be determined up until then
>>5298019
>furries
Disgusting.
How do I say no though?
If I start talking to them it can only end badly.
>>5298023
I used to run, a lot.
>when I try and tell myself that I'll pass eventually
>>5297993
I'm sorry to trigger your dysphoria, but just remember that if you're pre-everything you definitely don't have a bearing on how cute you can possibly be. Maybe some vidya to take your mind off it? ;_;
>>5298000
I think around 4, I didn't pass before it. I found an early transition photo recently and I don't think I really pass 100%
>>5298023
I rarely left my room
lmao i just saw that kayla called me ugly yesterday
>>5292103
>>5297984
Try again? It can't be that bad srsly
>>5298023
Pretty sure my right mind left me around first or second grade, so I was already pretty broken when that living death began
>>5298042
Not really a good excuse when I look like a guy tho ;-;
>no one in my family is tall
>dad was only 5'8"
>I somehow ended up 6'0"
>>5298023
by sleeping my life away as much as possible, fantasising intensely about suicide in all my lessons and keeping a high school diary so creepy and school-shooter-y I refuse to go back and read it even though I'm now 2.5 years into uni.
Does anybody need a hug? I do. Here, have a hug.
>>5298042
Yeah it might have to come up at some point
>>5298047
>mom is 5´6"
>i'm 5´10"
I will never pass next to her.
>>5298050
meant to post
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>>5298032
Yeah I might go do that, if I can motivate myself to get out of bed
>>5298042
>furries
>>5298050
I'll take one, i need it. here, you can have one from me
How do I come to terms being a botched mess?
I'm thinking of suicide
>>5298063
Saying no is very very hard.
>>5298065
I think most people go full tumblr. Without any standards you can't be a failure.
>>5298065
are you a trip?
post botched ffs
>>5298066
It is, but you can do it. I believe in you!
>>5298065
trip on aliengie
>>5298032
>I think around 4, I didn't pass before it. I found an early transition photo recently and I don't think I really pass 100%
i dont pass at 2 years
fuck im about to cry
>>5298078
I'll just keep ignoring them.
They've been doing this for some time now.
i feel like being full trans for the rest of my life is going to be so tiring. this sounds really transphobic, but i feel like i'd be lying to so many people and constantly worrying about whether or not they've caught on or, if theyve found out somehow, if theyre judging me for it
on the other hand, i dont want to look like a boy or be referred to as a boy or have anything to do with boyish boyness
gender is so hard
>>5298084
That works too. I've been doing that to a few old friends too.
>>5298063
Ugh I hope not
>>5298089
what's up with your nose lmao
>>5298089
why do you think its botched? you look like a girl to me
>>5298089
You look still swollen
>>5298092
I don't know. If he was a friend before, I don't see why he wouldn't try to be a friend now. You're the same person after all
>>5298089
haha ohh god it is you, so much for being happy with it, that "pretend to be a trip" of you was perfect
>tfw will never pass
>>5298106
That boy should stop wearing skirts.
>>5298105
Pretend to be a trip?
But yeah, it proved my theory.
Surgery can't help ugly people and I'm solid proof of that
>>5298103
I really hope it just doesn't work out to see him
>>5298108
Me too.
>>5298089
srsly, that's fine
>thinking of suicide
Probably goes deeper than just gender identity because from what I see you'd pass fine
>>5298112
Maybe he'll forget about it
>>5298114
I don't give a fuck about passing.
I care about is beauty.
No one wants to be ugly and if you're fine with being an ugly girl, you have low standards
>>5298117
No I think we might have actually been friends
>>5298119
you arent ugly
at least not physically
>>5298119
>I don't give a fuck about passing.
so much of my life and attention is devoted to becoming passing rn, literally what
>>5298122
I see. I do wish you the best of luck. That sounds like a crappy situation.
>tfw so many things I want to buy but no point when face is shit
Suffering ;_;
>>5298119
I want to be this cat desu
>>5298129
i have a wishlist of clothes that i want that im going to buy after ffs
whenever that is
>>5298126
Well not crappy just awkward
>>5298129
Buy it anyway. That's what I'm doing.
>>5298132
The forehead and shoulders are problematic here.
>>5298136
My taste is so good too, I just want all this shit.
>>5298139
I'm kind of poor atm but if my face was okay I would no doubt.
Maybe one day!
who /pretending to sleep/ here. My roommates are more autistic than I am. Anyway, hopefully all the food today goes STRAIGHT TO MY face.
>>5298138
Yeah well. It happens unfortunately.
>>5298129
Just get a mask to go with all of it.
>>5298141
and the fact it's a cat.
>>5298145
ya same
i wish i loved my family enough to buy my mom and sister clothes for christmas cus i have better taste than they do
but if i did i'd hate myself more because i bought the stuff i want to wear for someone else to wear
>>5298119
I wish I had low standards tbqh
>>5298152
Why would you want to be a generic cat owned by some tranny with a wide forehead?
>>5298150
It's illegal to wear a mask in public in some countries. I'm so lame and ugly I actually looked into it.
>>5298145
And that day will be the best and you'll feel great about it.
>>5298150
Can I wear a surgical mask in public?
I can pretend to be sick.
>>5298153
>tfw mom with good taste approves of my taste
Now I only need to pass.
>>5298149
I don't even know if his phone number is the same but I hate using Facebook
>>5298081
I'm really sorry I don't know what I can say to make things better ;_;
>>5298162
>Can I wear a surgical mask in public?
Only in grorious Nippon. Otherwise a full body suit is preferable.
>>5298028
>>5298044
>>5298048
>>5298034
im kind of doing similar things, isolating myself, sleeping, thinking about being dead all the time, dysphoria 24, if im not in my room im obsessivly doing something to distract myself. I feel pretty fucking broken rn.
parents are a no go my dad has already told me he will kick the shit out of me if he finds me doing anything trans related, or even accepting that im trans.
I've been trying to start self medding but for various reasons its not been working out, still working on it.
sorry for the venting btw I just want to scream and die, especially when the person screaming is manly as fuck and ugly etc
I haven't moved out yet because im still underage and trying to finish high school before I leave. thats also why I cant go legit and factors into the unable to self med.
so in the meanwhile im doing my best to not go crazy, wondering if its too late though
>tldr: everything is wrong, give mones please, i wish I was dead,
advice would be nice, or even sympathy ;_:
>>5298132
>>5298167
its not your fault. im just jealous and bitter and at my wits end. even giving it my best effort, had a cis friend do makeup for me, still got misgendered. only plus side is i have a job and i have 7k saved up for ffs already after 3 months.
>>5298162
my mom approves of my taste but she never takes my advice ;_; but ya same just gotta pass and i'll be fine.
>>5298165
You could always ask.
>>5298167
I know you're trying to help, but some people like that anon or edgar are starting from such a low passing potential your efforts can actually make things worse unintentionally, maybe back off a little from trying to play the part of a professional therapist on a dumb website
>>5298172
>>5298169
Aw, I guess i'm screwed then.
>>5298170
All I have for you is sympathy, sorry
I understand what you're going through and I don't wish it on anyone
>>5298176
nah dont blame her like.. lots of us use this board as a way to whine and get stuff off our chest. it feels a lot better to me at least to know that someone's reading it and wishes they could help even if they can't
tfw no cute tranny gf for me to cum on
>>5298175
I meant finding out would require using facebook
>>5298189
cum in me?
>>5298190
Oh right. I dunno then.
How big can my jaw/chin/nose be before it becomes impossible to pass?
I don't know how bad it is.
>>5298191
no i want to cum in your hand and then you can throw it like spiderman shooting a web
>>5298205
fuck off dumb anime cunt
>>5298176
I'm not trying to play a professional therapist though, I'm the farthest thing from a professional therapist but I do at least want to try and project some amount of positivity. Also, why are you still calling her edgar?
>>5298174
That's definitely a positive, at that rate you should be able to afford it soon. I hope it works out.
>>5298207
never
>>5298196
Please help ;_;
hey wuts up,
how was your thanksgiving?
dinner with my partner's family was pretty nice tho on the way home some idiot ran a stop-sign off of the highway and nearly hit us
>>5298212
40 inches. It really depends on so many other features. Post a pic
>>5298216
>post a pic
I can't, I just need to know the limit.
>>5298209
i hope so too, even tho i'd rather not have to get surgery in order to pass in the first place
i'm really scared of getting it botched and ending up gross looking but im going to try anyway and if it looks bad ill just sudoku
>>5298215
It was pretty peaceful and nice
I spent like an hour convincing my extended family that monty- hall was a legit thing, because someone brought it up
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monty_Hall_problem
>>5298196
basically if they're about as big as mine then you're fucked
>tfw u wear 2 layers because you think it will be cold today but it's actually hot
>>5298228
I learned that from a novel I read as a summer reading book in high school. My dad still isn't convinced that it's real.
>>5298184
thank you, could be a lot worse I guess though
>>5298196
Are you related to this man? If so it's bad. If not, not so bad.
>>5298232
hot weather?
in australia?
>>5298228
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monty_Hall_problem
what the fuck is this
my brain hurts
it shouldn't be advantageous to change choices because there's still always a 50/50 likelihood that the door you've chosen has the car? no?
>>5298209
she only uses 'noelle' because of the noel fielding references, so it's just as stupid tbhon
>>5298230
Show me.
>>5298236
I look like Max Payne.
>>5298239
but when you first make the choice, it's only a 33% chance that you pick the car
>>5298236
my nose and brow are unironically bigger than that guys
and my eyes are more deep set and my chin is taller
i have a slightly better hairline and jawline
>>5298238
Yeh. Apparently it's only 20c but it feels like 40.
>>5298243
but should that matter? no matter what choice i initially make, it will be turned into a 50% chance as soon as the host opens one of the doors revealing the goat, and it doesn't change whats behind the other two doors, so in reality, my chance of initially picking the door with the car is 50/50.
>>5298242
>>5298239
look at the pic I posted, 2/3 times you switch you will get the car.
sorry,kind of too burned out from arguing with my family to try to explain it in depth
>tfw watching gay movies and eating biscuits while there's a storm outside
>>5298252
Honestly except for the hair i'm as bad off and i've been on hrt for two years.
>>5298252
>>5298251
>but should that matter? no matter what choice i initially make, it will be turned into a 50% chance as soon as the host opens one of the doors revealing the goat
if you switch your choice
if you don't, then you're stuck with your 33% chance at a car
one decision was made with 3 options, the other was made with 2 options
>>5298269
>You probably look nothing like Max Payne.
How would you know?
I don't look as angry maybe but I have those features.
>>5298251
You have a 66% chance of picking a goat and 33% chance of picking the car. If you pick the goat, the host will reveal the other goat, so switching will get you the car. So basically picking then switching wins 66% of the time since the door you picked is 66% likely to be a goat, and the one the host opens is the other goat
AIFE IS A CUTE
>>5298295
wait what
really?
>>5298269
i do though.
i think not being delusional about my passability makes me less of a crazy tranny
>>5298290
Experience with posters here and common sense. You are most likely yet another pasty, scrawny nerd overplaying what little masculine features you have.
>>5298295
NO, TITCHBITS IS A CUTE <3
>>5298294
>So basically picking then switching wins 66% of the time since the door you picked is 66% likely to be a goat, and the one the host opens is the other goat
>tfw i always forget this
>>5298310
Trip on aife
>>5298314
O ty elanna : ]
>Australian internet
>Slow as fuck
Will any American/European be willing to let me live in their home? I will use your internet in exchange for favors of your choice.
>>5298310
SHUT UP, AIFE IS A CUTE >:(
>>5298252
Goddamn Noelle you do crack me up.
I hope I never let the way I look affect my enjoyment of life as much as it does for you.
>>5298321
NO UR THE A CUTE TITCHBITS D:<
>>5298305
I'm actually very realistic about my features.
>>5298331
There is only one way to know for sure.
>>5298327
WE'RE A CUTE TOGETHER THO <3
>>5298325
tbf you probably don't look as bad as I do
I tried to hug my sister because I was feeling bad and she said afterwards she was scared I was going to molest her. I look bad enough for it to effect my enjoyment of life.
>>5298337
And what would that be?
I look like a man and maybe 10 years older than I am.
>>5298338
WE'RE THE CUTEST AND I LIKE UR BUTT <3
>>5298348
Post a photo of yourself.
>tfw mom is finally supportive
I literally can't hold all these feels in
http://xhamster.com/movies/5331163/emy_amethyst_and_natalie_mars_hardcore_teaser.html
oh god....it's an old trip having sex with christian
>>5298348
The second one is physically impossible on e.
>>5298353
One day
It's really hard for me because i've pretty much never done it before except for pre-hrt
