I have a crush on this Esperanto speaker:
https://youtu.be/1PlbYCIhqsk
Should I learn the language to get closer to him?
>wanting to learn a shitty conlang
No fuck that, stick to natural languages. They're far superior and more useful.
Cool video though.
>>5250309
>language superiority'
They're just systems of communication brah.
Esperanto is just as valid as Italian, Tongan, or Guarani.
>>5250412
Was being mildly facetious, but it's objectively not as 'whole' as they are. Conlangs just can't measure up or have all the features of a nat lang. And esperanto is weird as fuck syntactically/morphologically.
I love that you mentioned Guarani tho.
>>5250512
I agree that most conlangs are not whole.
What makes a language whole is not its grammar, but its community.
Even the most detailed grammar books will not be able to describe/teach a language accurately.
Esperanto, like other natural languages are complete whole languages simply by the fact that they have relatively large communities, with native speakers.
>>5250512
Esperanto has been around awhile, evolved, and has native speakers. It started as a conlang but at this point it is getting closer and closer to being a natlang.
>>5250299
I've learned languages with and for people. It is fun, challenging, and rewarding in it's own right; plus, you do get closer just because you enter into the same community as them for speaking a language that isn't everyday around you. I would do it but I love language.
>>5250558
I actually already started a couple of days ago on Duolingo.
I am not sure how long it will take me.
I feel a little foolish because I am doing it over a crush. He's openly bi, but a bit older than me.
>>5250558
Where does it have native speakers? I hadn't heard about this at all. That's fascinating.
>>5250299
If you have to use alt-codes to type the language on a standard 101-key keyboard, it's not a language worth learning.
>>5250604
I don't know if there is a town or somewhere but there are areas with nunerous speakers, they tend to flock together, and they speak to their kids in it so they pick it up.
>>5250648
Not true. Annoying but not true. Also, the way you can tell native Germans from English speakers who learned German: ae, oe, ue, ss.
Who else is a linguistics major in here?
>>5250825
I minored in philology
English is the only language anyone should learn. Anything else is white people being privileged.
Esperanto sounds like a spic language anyway.
Esperanto estas bela lingvo! And while I love it and am learning it it is not a good idea to learn a whole language for someone you have a crush on. You will have no motivation and probably won't stick to it if that's the only reason. If you do learn hit up Duolingo, lernu, and Esperanto- USA and do it for yourself. There are also many people in other countries that provide free lodging for young Esperanto speakers and will gladly show you their culture and language and food. We also have lovely literature and music. There are many people to meet when you learn Esperanto. Good luck.
>>5252048
Also Esperanto, Edzperanto
>>5251214
Could replace that with 1st world privilege since I'm learning jap moon rune speak.
>>5250299
Yes.
Also, join us on /r/QueerConlangers.
>>5250648
Use the h-system or the x-system.
>>5250299
He has a picture with a girl his wall.
>>5250858
That's like the archaic name for it, isn't it. Or is that just historical linguistics?
>>5251309
Ah cool. I'm getting my BA in it now. My program is heavily theory based tho, which I don't like as much to be honest.
>>5250299
his mouth looks like a butthole
>>5253175
Kind of an old name for it but it focuses on dead languages and more in general just on the cultural uses of language; i.e., works of literature, speaches, songs, and plays.
>>5252048
Esperanto sounds like a Mexican getting raped by a Pole.
>>5253315
Sounds a bit like linguistic anthro. Huh, interesting.
>>5250299
For some reason knowing a language that only you and your boyfriend know sounds romantic as fuck.
>>5261720
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqiBHRJUAkg
>>5262625
That is so adorable!
>>5261720
Maybe if you want to socially isolate him and abuse him.
Esperanto isn't even a good conlang. It doesn't achieve its goals at all.
>>5263480
To be fair, it is the longest lasted conlang ever made. It's the largest in terms of speakers, music, literature, by a lot. Also the only conlang to ever have a native speaker.
What's the goal of Esperanto? For a grassroots hippy language to displace the politically and economically powered lingua francas?
I read about this language a while ago.
It's a good idea.
http://www.theverge.com/2015/5/29/8672371/learn-esperanto-language-duolingo-app-origin-history
>be me in middle school
>took spanish instead of french, which I really wanted to take, because I learned my crush was taking spanish
>he was never in my class
>mfw all of the friends I made that year took french
>mfw hearing them all talk about their french class hijinks and feeling left out
>mfw spanish was boring and full of
>mfw had to continue taking it into high school to meet graduation requirements
>mfw that class was always living hell
>mfw the guy was only at our middle school for a year anyway before being transferred to a school for gifted children
Don't ever learn a language so you can get closer to someone you don't even know
Not unless you're genuinely interested in learning it in the first place
I often wonder where the butterfly effect-like ripples of time would have led me had I taken french
My bonds with others could have been strengthened
I might not have felt so isolated
Always consider the consequences of your actions
>>5263574
To "create an easy-to-learn, politically neutral language that would transcend nationality." It did this by becoming a huge circlejerk of eurocentrist trash monsters and hobbyist "linguists." What a complete and total failure. Like base10 metric, it was doomed from its very foundation because of a fundamental ignorance of the necessary systems.
>>5271202
Esperanto is successfully spoken by people all around the world for the past 100 years.
https://youtu.be/0xgWd2PIxcM?t=12m20s
