You know the drill. Keep it bum free!
I know I post too much and I'm sure you're tired of seeing my face here.
But since I don't have any one in my life to talk to or get advice from I'm just gonna keep hanging out.
What can I fix?
https://imgur.com/a/J6jzf
>>5232012
you do a pretty good job in these pictures. is that your true resting expression? only tell is a thick chin/jaw, maybe shoulders, but it doesn't look masculine enough to be clocked from these pics.
if the voice passes you pass
>>5232021
>you do a pretty good job in these pictures. is that your true resting expression?
Yeah this is my neutral face. For whatever reason I can't get rid of the puckered bitch lips no matter how hard I try and go neutral.
>if the voice passes you pass
It doesn't sadly. Still trying to fix that. I should have enough for vocal surgery in 6/7 months.
I do practice but it's not good.
Thank you for the input Anon.
whats the verdict
>>5232034
I think you honestly do. Your body looks good.
>>5232012
Rockin' cheek bones you've got. Pass and, to a degree, attractive.
>>5232034
no pass but getting there.
>>5232047
>vocal surgery is absolutely not necessary. start seeing a voice coach, especially if you're practicing daily. less money, better results, less time spent not passing.
I have considered this option. I know there's a place in town that does vocal coaching.
I'll consider that for sure.
Vocal coaching seems like a good option. I still work as a male and the vocal surgery may change my ability to sound masculine.
Is it worth the cost? Like vocal training really works for most people?
>>5232051
Thank you as well anon.
>>5232047
>>5232066
Voice is 50% of passing. It irks me how little trans people work on their voice since it is so critical. if someone looks just like a woman but has the voice of a man it's obvious.
That being said my voice is in passing territory but i'm still getting vocal surgery in 6 months. having control over your voice is fine but when you do things like uncontrollably laugh, cough, things like that your old voice shows through because when you cough, your body doesn't care about whether or not it uses the lower half of your voice.
>>5232088
The fact that when I wake up from surgery or sickness my voice won't be right makes me want vocal surgery more than anything else. .
Are you going to Yeson? I was thinking about that Dr. In New York.
Supposedly same technique.
>>5232102
Definitely yeson. Tried and true
allie, log into skype
>>5232012
I can help you with your voice if you're interested.
>>5232012
you pass perfectly, i'm not kidding
I remember that you said that you're quiete tall, right? Keep in mind that many people get intimidated by tall people, so this might be a reason why you get insecure about passing. I've got the same problem (or used to)
me on the right. give it to me straight, passgen.
>>5232835
Easy pass if your voice is decent. Well done. Enjoy stealth life if you choose to.
>>5232034
Pls be my gf
Do I pass?
>>5233483
>Can I ask how tall you are?
I'm 6ยด0"
>>5233917
That's not too bad at all. Do most people just talk about how you must have played a lot of sports?
>>5232835
How long have you been transitioning? You look amazing.
How do I look for being pre-everything?
I know I don't pass but some advice would be nice.
Here is voice btw:
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1jWGmd2Mu86
>>5234258
>http://vocaroo.com/i/s1jWGmd2Mu86
Voice is tight. Pitch is there I think though.
>>5234258
For pre-everything, you're lookin pretty nice! Get yourself on the goods, and you'll be a full time trap.
>>5233951
I was asked what kind of sport i was doing during class on friday :) but usually no...
I usually got no problems and people start randomly talking with me, but height is usually not one of their first questions. Feedback says that a lot of guys feel uncomfortable dating taller women and after breaking up with my ex he exactly told me that. Somehow taller guys only date short women -_-
How tall are you?
>>5234364
I am 6'2". I am envious of you. I am thankful I am not taller though.
It's a shame that guys tend to get worked up about the height thing.
I get comments about my height, usually from older people, about how I must have played a lot of volleyball or basketball.
>>5234258
you pass as a jewish ladyboy
>>5234258
that cross in the background isn't fooling anyone shlomo
>>5234516
Do older people love you aswell? I swear to god they always walk up to me to explain them where they have to go :)
ยดaw sweetie you have such a handsome face, i just had to ask youยด -_-
Why are you envious about me? 6ยด2" isn't that much of a difference; for most everything above 5ยด10" is TALL, and with your looks i wouldn't worry about it too much. People within my area are pretty much the same height as me, so it isn't uncommon to meet women 5ยด11"+.
Not to sound weird but we look much alike...
be well
>>5234598
>Do older people love you aswell? I swear to god they always walk up to me to explain them where they have to go :)
They really do. They always want to talk about my hair or they tell me to smile.
I know it's silly but two inches is a pretty difference. It's enough to make me sad. I am like taller than most men in the world I think.
I don't ever meet other women who are taller than I am.
>Not to sound weird but we look much alike...
You should post your picture if you are comfortable!
>>5234657
Maybe tomorrow. I'm tired. Good night (:
just woke up buutt
>still in boymode/not out fully
>waiting before i do my eyebrows properly
>still doing electrolisis
>no hot water yesterday and had to shave so still have razerburn
>also not wearing my glasses in this one
>>5234933
You don't pass but you just look like you need to give it time.
You are not a lost cause.
>>5234933
jesus christ whats wrong with your face you look like you stuck your head in a blender
>>5235172
That's so mean.
>>5235189
mean but true tbhon
hey~
>>5232034
I'd fuck you.
>>5234556
kek
>>5235381
I don't think you do here.
>>5235381
holy fuck you wore that dress in public? lmao
I was driving to SRS with my friend who is also mtf, and there signs for the whole drive. our voices would get deeper, and our beards would grow back, and we'd get raging man boners.
what gives, I thought srs was supposed to make me 100% stealth pass and be a real woman?
>>5235396
it stands for reddish, the sequel to oddish.
>>5235725
>>5234258
He is judging you from above.
>>5235305
No one asked if they were attractive though. It just seems mean to be like that.
am i clockable :3
>>5236108
looking good bb want sum fuk?
>>5235898
life is an epic play written by god
fuck you god i didnt want to play the transgender
youre just laughin your ass off up there huh
oh well, gotta play my part. how do look friends?
mtf pre hrt
>>5236121
strong ass man brow/10
/lgbt/ is fucking silly.
>>5236121
brow and chin on point nigga.
oh shit you wanted to be a girl?
uh, save 20k and get bangs and get on mones asap
>>5236121
you have potential. your eyes are fem, but the sockets around them and the brow are not. chin and jaw could use a little work too, but don't give up. especially if you're pre-hrt, to have very femme lips/eyes/eyebrows.
also tiny suggestion that works for everyone, try to raise your camera up a little more. this is a little overly specific but basically the lens should be ~5 inches above your eyes, pointing slightly downward.
>all of these young white men turning themselves into women
Listen faggots, have some self-respect. All that tranny shit is for spics, niggers and asians. Don't buy into the kike propaganda. You need a therapist not hormones and surgery.
>>5236255
my therapist recommended hormones and surgery. rebuttal?
>>5236253
Wow what the fuck. That isn't yeson is it?
>>5236262
you tell Chaim Goldstein to get back in the oven
Reddit is so cancerous with /r/asktransgender
and /r/transpassing. Every thread is full of reassurance and "you pass fine" it drives me up the wall. nobody gets honest feedback, it's just a constant stream of self assurance that turns people into steaming hons.
You guys are great because you're honest most of the time.
>>5236275
>nobody gets honest feedback
That is pretty accurate. I think most of the time the best estimate for passing is the number of uphons you accumulate.
Most people on there absolutely refrain from being honest and candid.
Who /offingthemselvesbefore30/ here?
>>5236223
thank you. yeah, bone structure is my worst problem. kinda hit me in all the wrong places (chin, jaw, nose, brow) probably will need ffs to ever truly pass, but hopefully hrt does lil summn
>~5 inches above your eyes, pointing slightly downward.
yeah but using a camera trick kinda defeats the purpose of asking if we'd pass irl
>>5236253
fucking christ thats horrifying
>>5236275
>You guys are great because you're honest most of the time.
so true. delusional hugboxing makes me feel physically ill sometimes
>Tfw andro valley
all I can do is save money and wait
>>5236334
it's not a camera trick, it's just taking good pictures.
>>5236121
Parting your hair in the center makes your face appear longer and does your forehead no favors.
Your browline is pretty heavily bossed and will probably need to be reduced. This could just be in that photo due to your hair. Try putting it in a ponytail and take a picture from the front.
You have thin lips. This can be bad and good.
Your cheeks appear full and will look better on HRT. That isn't your resting face though, so take that with a grain of salt.
On the bright side at least you don't have raccoon eyes like me.
Sorry for the low quality, had to crop out the god-awful tie dye. Mtf
>>5236706
get rid of that goddamn ddlg tumblr choker
>>5236706
It's really hard to tell.
>>5236706
Apparently this posted sideways. Why? I have no idea
>>5236754
I think the biggest thing is that most of your face is covered. It's really hard to tell you anything real.
>>5236706
you forgot to crop out your god awful face
>>5236706
Me again does this one work any better?
If this ends up sideways I give up 100%
>>5236807
Much better
You have boybangs but your chin reads female. If you'd ditch the choker and get a tee that shows your collar bones and change up your haircut I think you're golden.
I can't tell how your eyebrows are but just remember they're pretty important
>>5236807
This is a much better picture.
It shows the actual issues with your face and allows us to give you advice.
Your nose looks disproportionate to your face. Contouring would help.
Chin is feminine IMO.
The choker is silly.
>>5236515
>Try putting it in a ponytail and take a picture from the front.
ok, i have a picture like that
>Parting your hair in the center makes your face appear longer and does your forehead no favors.
i definitely know what you mean, but i find it hard to part it anywhere else cause the corners of my hairline go back kinda far, so i hide them with the hair from the middle. I'll try it though
>You have thin lips. This can be bad and good.
really? i always thought it was just bad. whats good about that?
anyway, thanks for the input!
>>5235381
more
>>5232012
You pass. You look like one of those girls who never take care of themselves and wear the ugliest, baggy clothing... which says a lot because transgirls usually pass better done up, not plain.
Although if your mannerisms/voice/etc. were too male it'd break the illusion I think.
>>5232034
Your hair and phone is covering most of your face, but I'd say a tentative pass.
>>5234258
You'll pass.
>>5234933
Seconding >>5235172
Also no pass.
>>5235381
No pass. You look like a 16 year old boy. I think you have potential, though.
>>5236121
>>5238118
I think you'll be fine. FFS would help but I think hormones, styling, makeup, and eyebrows will get you a lot of the way there.
>>5236807
No pass. Potential, though.
How would you gender me? IS here. Been told I look like a girl that grew up anemic in a convent and can only marry within my church. I'm laughing.
>>5238758
>How would you gender me?
Grill.
>Been told I look like a girl that grew up anemic in a convent and can only marry within my church. I'm laughing.
You look cute, but a bit wallflowery.
>>5238769
>a bit wallflowery
No argument. Been told I look male and female depending on the picture so it must vary widely by angle and beholder and facial expression. Also been told I constantly flutter between male and female in person like the viewer is looking at someone in a dream.
>>5238552
>>>5232012
>You pass. You look like one of those girls who never take care of themselves and wear the ugliest, baggy clothing... which says a lot because transgirls usually pass better done up, not plain.
I wear baggy to cover my breasts. I am not out at work.
>Although if your mannerisms/voice/etc. were too male it'd break the illusion I think.
Yeah that is something I am working on.
Thanks for your input anon.
hey /passgen/ does my voice pass? I'm 1 month post op from yeson, so just got my voice back and this is the minimum improvement I'll get, but I just want to know where I stand right now?
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0RgIKevJe5Y
>>5239003
wrong link
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0LnnxvHg4Xz
>>5233483
We can talk in skype, I'll try to help with it.
genkisgenki - here it is
>>5239103
no I mean I already had it, I've just got my voice back after not talking for a montho
>>5239029
Well cool! Thank you!
Just for clarification, is your skype address the one with the hand?
I did a photoshoot recently. It gave me some confidence, but I don't know if I actually pass. Please be real with me passgen.
>>5239121
marilyn manson/10
>>5239121
Sexy/10 I wish I was that skinny
>>5239121
Super duper pretty. You pass and you look beautiful.
>>5239121
https://www.google.com/search?q=Jamie+Bochert&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
>>5239113
Yep
Hrt soon
>>5239506
go troll somebody else :(
>>5239559
Exscuse you?
>>5239575
you cannot get that face without mones, you're just a troll, go away :(
>>5239600
you got the prototypical tranny face goin on, but somehow I still think you pass more or less. it's mostly the nose that's the problem. jewish?
>>5239669
Yes I can
>>5239669
It's just good genetics and makeup
>>5239600
I think you pass well in this photo.
>>5239600
is it just the glasses or are your eyes fucking huge
>>5239496
I messaged you on there. :) Thank you!
>>5238758
Nice lips
>>5232012
I came into this thread hoping you'd post again because I think you're one of the most beautiful grills to ever post on this board. plz keep posting the future.
im not a creeper or anything i promise senpai.
>>5242021
That's very sweet of you Anon. That feels really nice to hear. I really appreciate you taking the time to say that. :)
Fags
>>5242636
>implying there's anything wrong with that.
Wondering how I'm doing, my photos from before were not well-lit or at a straight angle. Also thank you to the anon who apologized to me, I couldn't reply because I was on a VPN but I appreciated that.
Anyway I'm looking for makeup advice, I think I should learn to contour to reduce the apparent size of my jaw but I'm wondering if there's anything else I should look into.
I'm kinda nervous about this, please be nice without being dishonest?
>>5243423
the tumblr hair isnt helping you
>>5243432
The color or cut or both? I'm changing color soon and not sure what to go to
>>5243439
color mostly, the cut is fine but i'd see a good stylist and ask what they recommend for your face
>>5243459
Ok thanks!
>>5243423
You look good. No joke. I wouldn't think male at all.
>>5243538
Oh, thank you! This is always confusing as hell to me because I get both reactions. I tried using those face analysis things for TRUE OBJECTIVITY but it was of course all over the place.
>>5232012
How do I get curls like that
im pre HRT or surgery or anything, so I think once i do some of that id look alright
>>5244816
general facial structure looks fine. shape, eyebrows, forehead aren't too masculine. jaw/chin probably are the biggest tell. judging from the lighting your nose seems strong and crooked and may require surgery. decent potential.
>>5232012
There's very little to fix as far as I can tell. If there are candid shots of you, those would be more telling, however.
>>5232012
>Keep it bum free!
Yea OK Miranda nice try f am, I need to put u on blast for a min.
Remember when I said "your voice doesnt pass tho" and you are like "lol it does tho" and im like "OK :^)", and you were like "b-b-but it does senpai".... now you are saying your voice doesnt pass..... k :^)
Then I said "do you even bother wearing womens clothes out in public?" and you said "I only wear womens clothes f am", now you are trying to say you arent out at work.... lol nigga pls :^) Rugby, hoodie, and womens jeans doesnt count as womens clothing 2bh, plus EVERYBODY at work knows that you are a tranny by now, they would have to be goddamn blind or fully retarded to not know... I mean most normies are idiots but come on sweetie. You dont look very much like a gayboy.
And I dont think you have anything to "fix", you look good without makeup, and there is no surgery to fix the fact that you are 6'2" with Wide Receiver sized hands. You can experiment with light makeup, and dressing more fem, but really you probably just need an "expectation adjustment" more than anything else... real talk :^)
Also why are you in the mens restroom? You will get raped by acolytes of the Patriarchy... just sayin f am.
And why do you have a pen in the restroom and why are you holding that pen like its a knife? Lel u cray cray Miranda.
>be me
>be at work
>go to the restroom
>see the tall tranny that works here looking in the mirror
>I have liked her for a long time
>figure I will ask her if she wants to hangout this weekend
>challenge_accepted.png
>say "Hi" as I walk towards her
>she turns toward me with a bewildered look on her face
>I keep talking to her as I walk past her to use the urinal "Hey do you wanna go- "
>She stabs me with a pen
>There is blood
>I am bleed
>fuuuuuck
Future potential?
>>5245450
pass already
>>5245488
Are you trying to hugbox me?
Halloween, 3 months on mones. Fire away
>>5245450
Passing 90%. Just fine tune the makeups and try to do a more feminine expression than 'angry black guy'
>>5245542
>nose ring
why
>>5245542
Sorry, but no. However, I can see it working for you.
I hope you don't do those eyebrows outside of Halloween. Also, they could use some plucking. Ditch the nose ring. Get bangs.
>>5245542
not passing.
>>5245362
Crazy kek shit like this is why I come here.
http://imgur.com/a/xJXIJ
Makeup is weird and hard. Sometimes I'm not sure if I'm not putting on enough or the cheap shit I use just isn't pigmented enough.
>>5247024
Check the makeup guide in the trans help gen if you haven't.
Also no reason to go cheap on something like makeup. that is one biggest factors of whether or not you pass.
>>5247024
you don't pass at all, sorry
>>5247024
You're asian, you pass.
Congrats on easy mode.
>>5245362
Lol. I never said it passed. You said I probably had the deepest voice ever and I just said it wasn't as bad as you made it sound.
The clothes thing is fair but for the record they are women's clothes. I mean it's not a dress but it's from the women's section at American Eagle.
And I mean I can't just wear a dress to work. That would not fly.
>plus EVERYBODY at work knows that you are a tranny by now, they would have to be goddamn blind or fully retarded to not know... I mean most normies are idiots but come on sweetie. You dont look very much like a gayboy.
You could be right but I really don't think anyone knows. No one's said anything at least.
>And I dont think you have anything to "fix", you look good without makeup, and there is no surgery to fix the fact that you are 6'2" with Wide Receiver sized hands. You can experiment with light makeup, and dressing more fem, but really you probably just need an "expectation adjustment" more than anything else... real talk :^)
Thank you for the honesty. I think you're absolutely right. I need to work on just being cool with I can be cool with.
>Also why are you in the mens restroom? You will get raped by acolytes of the Patriarchy... just sayin f am.
I can't tell if you're being serious.
>And why do you have a pen in the restroom and why are you holding that pen like its a knife? Lel u cray cray Miranda.
Lol It's a Vape. I stopped in this hidden bathroom just take pictures.
>>She stabs me with a pen
>>There is blood
>>I am bleed
>>fuuuuuck
Lel You're such a dork. You really are one of my favorite posters.
>>5243591
Do you have Curls already? I can tell you how.
>>5243585
I really meant it.
Yeah those sites don't always work too well. Been there.
>>5244930
Thank you anon.
>>5247299
>cheap
If you're are just starting though, is it really a good idea to buy more expensive products? $30.00 eyeliner from Sephora seems like it work just as well the $3.00 from Walmart.
>>5248576
I have curls, but as soon as I step out of the shower it becomes frizzy as fuck. Tips and routine ? I'm super jelly.
>>5248747
I think it'll depend on the type of Curls but as soon as you find that out you can start with products that are made for that hair type.
Look up curl types like 1A/2A/3A through 1C/2C/3C and see which one is yours.
I have really thick coil type Curls. So it takes a lot of product for my hair. If yours is thinner you'll need to adjust the amounts.
I shampoo every other day with a sulfate free shampoo and then use a silicone free conditioner to cowash and I leave in after scrunching it in the shower.
I get out and wrap my hair up with a T-shirt and let it dry while I do other stuff.
Then I let my hair down and rake a silver dollar amount of curl cream through my hair in sections. Bottom left, right, top left, right etc...
Then to keep fly aways away and keep it from being frizzy I use a little bit of moose and scrunch it in the sections the same way.
Then I will go through and twist a few curls around my fingers just to shape them.
At this point my hair is probably a little more than half fry so I take the middle section of hair and clip/flip it on the opposite way I'd like it to lay and try and give it some time to dry out and then after it's dry I put my hair upside down and scrunch it to loosen up the Curls.
Does that help at all?
I can tell you the products I use as well. It took a long time to find stuff that worked for me. I spent so much money on curly hair products that I really hated and it was a big waste.
>>5247131
no. Why the angle and the cutoff?
>>5247024
nope
>>5245542
pic related
give it more time
gain weight
grow hair out (we can see hour black hair under that wig, HONEY)
>>5245450
too blurry but looking good
don't know if pass
>>5244816
will turn out alright
>>5243423
okay
>>5247024
Makeup is fine IMO.
>>5249631
Slightly offended, I don't think he looks like me senpai. I dun wanna gain weight and my hair is almost shoulder lentgh but am growing it much longer
Tips ?
I want to grow my hair out but everytime i do it just goes poofy >.>
>>5250000
Everything is Pre by the way
the Classic
>>5250000
you can get your hair permanently straightened, straighten it every morning or wear a beanie/hat
>>5248576
>Lol It's a Vape
DROPPED
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>Lel You're such a dork. You really are one of my favorite posters
Well if you like my witty comments so much you can add me on Skype, I posted it in the last thread. I am p busy tho, but I like to chat from time to time.... you know give you that *DEEP* conversation :^)
Gotta warn you upfront tho Miranda; no I will not watch Star Wars with you, and if your heart breaks easy dont play with the heartless ....
ยฏ\_(ใ)_/ยฏ
>>5251117
Wow Descartes' writing style has really progressed over the past few centuries.
Incredible that we have so many philosophers browsing lgbt
Starting hrt in four weeks, should I start saving for ffs?
>>5251462
Maybe rhinoplasty, maybe chin reduction. It's possible neither would be necessary though, you don't seem too bad off. A profile shot would be nice to check your brow ridge too
>>5251476
Here you go.
I'm hoping hrt will just smooth things out before ffs so I won't need as much work done
>>5232012
Sure. Your face just really bothers me though.
>>5232034
Ugly middle school nerdy girl but girl
>>5234258
Sounds like a pre-pubescent boy.
You'll be fine for pre everything
>>5234933
No
>>5235381
No, even with your stupid fucking hair no.
>>5236121
Fix your jaw but you'll probably end up looking like a lesbian
>>5236706
Myspace angles.
>>5236807
Better. Yes
>>5238118
Yes
>>5238758
Boy
>>5243423
tumblr girl
>>5244816
You should be ok
>>5245450
Yes
>>5245542
Maybe with HRT
>>5247024
Asian
>>5247131
androgynous
>>5250000
You're Asian but you're very masculine
>>5251462
Doubt it
Made some fake bangs
>>5251719
12?
>>5251731
Every god damn time
>>5251735
How old then?
>>5251719
some fetal alcohol syndrome going on
and a 5 o clock shadow
>>5251746
Very subtle five shadow cus I've not shaved in a while and no makeup, alcohol syndrome?
>>5232012
Your torso is manly looking but aside from that you look like a regular girl at first glance.
>>5232034
Again, man torso, plain Jane aside from that.
>>5232835
You are either a troll or one of the most passable traps I've ever seen. Post before pics please.
>>5234258
You have a round girlish face and nice hair, you'll do great mate.
>>5234933
No pass, but if you groom the right way I can see myself wondering which gender do you have.
>>5235381
Fucking nasty cattle nose ring.
>>5236121
If you can nail the voice you will probably have a smooth transition with hormones.
>>5236807
You look like a twink femboy.
>>5238758
Male due to the hairline.
>>5239121
>I don't know if I actually pass
Don't worry, you made it.
>>5239506
Pass
>>5239600
Pass
>>5243423
Dude the other piercings are fine but why do you have to ruin your pretty face with that stupid nose ring?
>>5244816
You got the face covered, with a decent body shape and a good voice you are pretty much there.
>>5245450
Yes.
>>5245542
I can only see a dude in drag in that picture.
>>5247024
Is that you Trump? I mean you pass.
>>5247131
I'm biased. You look like an exgf, pass.
>>5250000
You have strong, well defined masculine features. You are going to have a bad time. Let your hair grow and experiment.
>>5251462
Your face looks feminine enough to me, you could use some fat on cheeks to smooth out your chin.
>>5251954
>Is that you Trump? I mean you pass.
>mfw I'm watching him right now
H-he's cute okay
>>5252157
>>5252193
Grow some hips
>>5252193
Is that a sandwich on the floor?
>>5252280
Cute though
>>5252280
You will get hips from fat redistribution, and so long you're under 25-ish, you'll see some wider hips when it comes to bone structure as well, but this is a large maybe.
Work out your thighs and butt and you'll have a nicer curvature I guess, though they're very nice right now it's just that your hips aren't wide to compliment them. Hope for the best, maybe you want to be on injections instead of pills for more potent feminization and stuff, and maybe progesterone once your T is nuked to 0 for half a year+.
4 months mtf
>>5252611
Glad to see you washed your hair after 4 months.
>>5252611
Pass
>>5236807
Hng. grils in chokers.
>>5247024
Cute. Instagram?
>>5252611
u made it, you pass as a young girl
>>5252611
i look like you a bit. i think my chin might be a little longer though. hows the chest?
>>5252611
you look like a little boy with long hair. idk why everyone says you pass, you're cute but that =/= pass
>>5253335
that's what I always see when I look at myself! hopefully after a year hrt will push me just into the female territory.
>>5252611
I seriously fucking hate you so fucking much can't you just fuck off this site so I don't have to fucking see your fucking face?
18 y/o mtf post-mones. Without makeup.i know I need to loose weight
>>5254087
You have a massive head. I'm sure you'll pass one day.
>>5254087
You're ugly as fuck
>>5254087
You look like these two twins I went to school with.
They were whatever religion makes girls wear denim skirts and not cut their hair.
>>5254087
Ahhh very qt, will be even qter if you lose weight. Pass pretty well imo
>>5254087
Yes you pass, although the picture is very dim
>>5252611
who wants nudes of her hmu
>>5235381
WTF is this thread?
Where's the video game?
>>5252611
>she posted again
so moe nigga i can't even deal
Honestly though you pass better than usual, didn't even recognize you from the thumbnail
>>5252611
if you have the voice down, you pass by now
>>5251954
>Male due to the hairline.
Actually not from T. Born premie with deformed head. There's no receding. Honestly, I wish it WAS just receding.
>>5255024
I have a non-gendered deformity that kills my ability to pass by SHEER COINCIDENCE...
Talk about unlucky.
>>5254749
ya?
>>5252611
you look like you were crying before taking this picture or were about to. If something is wrong just get on skype.
>>5254098
Here's a brighter picture. It's the day before hormones. I'm a month in now
>>5252611
You havent been on skype since forever
:<
>>5255889
Honestly, step up your eyebrow game and you're pretty much good to go.
>>5257811
>step up your eyebrow game and you're pretty much good to go
>and you're pretty much good to go
>pretty much good to go
>good to go
>good to go
That phrase..... I do not think it means what you think it means.
>>5258527
why the fuck is no one here capable of posting a picture with the correct orientation
I know I'm not passing, but what can be done on my part to push myself in the direction of femininity?
For fear of mucking up the orientation again. http://imgur.com/WbF4JXc
>>5258600
chin and brows are what you have to deal with in that pic.
ffs or makeup are the only options here. idk how much contouring can help. if you constantly raise your eyebrows, by the way, they'll sit higher after awhile and any forehead prominence will be less noticeable.
will it pass?
>>5258653
now that you're posting in the right thread..
your jaw is sharp. a bit too large. nose is large, brows are average height and dark..
if you're on hrt already you should start starving yourself to kill muscle. the face will change slightly, but i predict a moderate ffs bill if you do want to pass.
more than one angle would help.
>>5258678
moderate being?
>>5258758
i think full ffs is around 20k. you look like maybe a rhino, some chin work, maybe brow work, and not much else.
>>5258767
my FFS is covered by insurance if I go to speigel. anyone else you would rec?
>>5258776
Yeah, just smash your own face in with a hammer. You'll def look better.