If I try hard enough, can I suppress feelings of gender dysphoria and just live as my birth sex?
How hard will it be?
Your dysphoria is not your reality anon. Why would you even want to completely alter your mind and body to synchronize with a delusion that you have.
You know what you aren't a girl right?
If you manage not to kill yourself, you will be driven to transition later in life, possibly with a family, and if you dont have miraculous genetics you will look like Arnold Schwarzenegger in a dress.
but sure, keep on repressing, everything will be fine, im sure of it.
Trying to suppress your dysphoria won't work. Just do what it takes to make yourself feel comfortable.
Look, honest answer is you don't have any good options. Trying to deal with dysphoria will be a life long battle. Unfortunately for many it is a battle that many end up losing, when they take their own life.
On the other hand transitioning is really tough too. A lot of friends and even family members may at first say they support you, but then you'll start to notice no one treats you the same. Everyone seems distant and you stop getting invited to go places. You'll constantly be worrying if you pass. Even if you really do pass, you still never stop worrying about it. And you will have to come to terms with the fact that many, if not most people in society will never accept you as a real woman or man. The best you can hope for is a small group of people that do accept you.
There are no good options. But there might be a less bad one for you. You have to figure out which one that is for yourself. It certainly can help to listen to other people's experiences, but don't let anyone else make this decision for you.
>>5218631
You have to understand just how many soft hearted people we have in society. How many followers there are that will actively convince themselves they have dysphoria when they don't. You're leading a lot of people astray
>>5218542
It depends on how intense it is
If you have to ask you're probably fucked though
>>5218542
>If I try hard enough, can I suppress feelings of gender dysphoria and just live as my birth sex?
Yeah, duh. Millions of people do this all the time.
>How hard will it be?
Not very hard if you go to school, get a job, and not sit on tumblr all day obsessing over meaningless shit.
>>5218654
Why would anyone ever fake having dysphoria like are you joking me here
I have no issue with people exploring gender but like if you're at the point where redoing puberty seems like a good option then I have a lot of trouble believing it isn't genuine
>mfw all the people on this thread who desperately require that OP be as sick and hopeless as them in order to validate their own experiences
wow this isn't extremely creepy and abusive or anything.
OP, run away from these freaks, they are not your friends.
>>5218670
This might come as a shock to you anon, but human beings in general are liars. They lie to themselves most of all. People convince themselves of having far worse afflictions than dysphoria. Don't be naive and act like you don't know how many followers have joined this herd without actually being born into the wrong body
>>5218667
>Yeah, duh. Millions of people do this all the time.
lol
when are you gonna transition hon?
>>5218713
>when are you going to throw away your entire life away in order to chase some bizarre internet-fueled fantasy
Um, never?
>>5218707
You do realize that detransitioning is an option if you convinced yourself that you have dysphoria when you don't right
Also like once you start going through puberty again you'll figure out pretty fast if you did or didn't have dysphoria because if you didn't then welp now you will
>>5218687
No, for real though, the amount of people who have been convinced that they need to transition for the sake of their very life is actually harmful. How many weak souls are swallowed up in all of this for every legitimate person who is Transgender
>>5218707
OP listen to this guy. You don't want to transition, or god forbid get surgery and then come to a conclusion of pic related.
>>5218742
>tfw you wake up in the morning excited about your tits growing instead of wanting to die
>>5218742
>You do realize that detransitioning is an option
You can't re-attach your dick or unsterilize yourself. You can't undo FFS and other things. You can't get back the years you spent chasing the dragon, or repair the friendships and family ties you slashed apart in your bizarre, selfish quest for titties.
>>5218707
And how many lied to themselves, started families and commited suicide because it became too late to change :)
>>5218756
>No, for real though, the amount of people who have been convinced that they need to transition for the sake of their very life is actually harmful. How many weak souls are swallowed up in all of this for every legitimate person who is Transgender
Yeah, I completely agree with you. That's the point I was trying to make in my post there.
>>5218742
How many people will live a decade of their life before realizing their mistake anon? People don't understand their own psyches with the clarity that you suppose they do where they can just quantify every single thought and feeling they have and identify what it all means. People are easily swayed and convince themselves of things that aren't real
>>5218774
>le everyone is a tranny and will kill themselves if they don't do exactly what I did meme
Cut this shit out you mentally abusive piece of trash. Other people's lives are not your playthings.
>>5218777
You sound like you have some issues anon. Have you worked through any of your gender identity problems with a therapist?
>>5218774
They would be a deeply selfish person if they would end their life and leave their family fatherless because of what they wished their life would have been like. The vast majority of people aren't the person they want to be, male or female. I guarantee you this person has more issues than just gender dysphoria
Also, why would post a passive aggressive smile like that? I never understood that tactic. Are you trying to prove that you're a duplicitous person with fake smiles that you show to your enemies? It only makes it seem as if you're a two faced liar
>>5218809
I've seen more than a few people fuck up their lives trying to satiate the whims of a sense of dysphoria that they may or may not have ever really felt. It needs to be addressed
OP again. While y'all have been arguing, I've been looking for therapists who can help me eliminate or at least live with my dysphoria. They're all religious. :/
>>5218542
Well, the first step is to get off this toxic fucking board and see a therapist.
And for fucks sake, be honest with yourself. Deluding yourself that you're cis is just as unhealthy and dishonest as deluding yourself that you're trans.
>>5218857
I think you're just sensitive and want to be coddled by someone
>>5218857
Let me put this into perspective for you
>If I try hard enough, can I suppress feelings of homosexuality and just live as straight person?
>OP again. While y'all have been arguing, I've been looking for therapists who can help me eliminate or at least live with my gayness. They're all religious. :/
>>5218866
You're confusing being horny and a pervert with being romantically involved with another man. You only have true feelings of homosexuality if you're in love with another man. If it's just sex, it's only lust
>>5218865
That's partially true, but I'd also like some help for my issues.
>>5218866
People have the capacity to be confused about themselves. It's very possible to think you're gay when you're not
>>5218894
And I'd be willing to bet telling people "you aren't gay you're just confused" has historically caused a lot more psychological damage than the reverse
>>5218890
Spend some time alone and allow yourself to feel the depression and pain you try to escape from all the time. Look inside of yourself and come to understand your issues on your own. Nobody is going to descend from the sky and solve your issues for you
>>5218903
Yes, let's reduce everything to pissing contests and statistics while ignoring individuals who are actually having issues. It's more important that I reaffirm my ideology as the correct one than to actually help people understand themselves. Let's make as many broad, sweeping generalizations as humanly possible.
Homosexuality as an identity is such a modern concept in general. For the vast history of the human experience, there was no differentiation between straight and gay. If you aren't looking at this on a person by person basis, you're doing it wrong
>>5218542
Sure, you can suppress that shit. But only if you're not actually transsexual.
If you are it won't work and you'll spend the rest of your short life in complete despair, drinking yourself to death while wishing you had the balls to just kill yourself. :-D
>>5218930
>If you aren't looking at this on a person by person basis, you're doing it wrong
I agree, really. That's why whenever I see a dysphoria thread I tell them to go see a therapist instead of "lel start self medding those skittles". I think you or whatever other anon I'm arguing with is edging too far on discouragement and repression instead of fully exploring one's thoughts and feelings
>>5218905
This. Fuck everyone in this thread, come to your own conclusion, then seek help. nosce te ipsum and godspeed OP
>>5218542
Being trans is a social construct brought on by modern conditions. How many people in ancient and medieval societies walked around in a suicidal depression because they were born the wrong gender?
Just ask yourself "is transitioning something I want to do?" If yes, do it. If not, don't.
>>5218943
Fair enough. The main point to take away is that people should be aware of their capacity to be swayed by the perceptions of others, regardless of what their specific view is
>>5218998
>>5218998
>How many people in ancient and medieval societies walked around in a suicidal depression because they were born the wrong gender?
Really they had bigger immediate problems to worry about. Like not starving to death in winter or not having your sister raped and abducted by the faggot noble next castle. Also I believe that there is so much we have access to in our modern lifestyle that the simplest pleasures of life have much less value than they used to.
>>5219135
Not to mention there's plenty of cultures that actually did have "third gender" roles for trans women
>>5219206
Eunuchs are probably the most common instance of it if you want to interpret them that way but then there's also the two-spirit shit and then a lot of stuff like this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fa%27afafine
>>5219268
Eunuchs were never really considered a sexual identity. It was most often a rite of initiation into a priesthood or aristocratic order
>>5218542
>If I try hard enough, can I suppress feelings of gender dysphoria and just live as my birth sex?
Yes there is a drug called pimozide that causes loss of transgender feelings in some people. I've been on it for about 2 months now and it's reduced most of my gender dysphoria even more so then taking hrt. I don't think it completely gets rid of it though but to be fair neither does hrt and transitioning. It's worth a shot if you don't wanna transition for whatever reason. Also some try getting into therapy with a good therapist can go along way to help with depression and anxiety issues.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pimozide#Side_effects
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8839957
http://www.health.com/health/gallery/0,,20310354,00.html
>>5219495
That's so great, thank you anon.
I've done years of therapy for my depression and ocd but nothing has really worked. I'm still trying though.
>>5218857
Finding gender based therapists that aren't for helping you transition will all make you feel worthless, that's just the way this world is.
I wish gender dysphoria didn't exist. And that we could all be happy.
Of course you can. You're not compelled by your sexuality.
>>5220448
sexuality is only a part of gender identity desu senpai
>>5219495
Interesting, I'm gonna try this since I'm still pre-transition and haven't came out to anyone yet. Thanks anon.
If you supress your feelings past 20's you are not trans cause you would of suicided or gone on hrt.
Your gonna be hon.
Honey
>>5220505
What if I made up my mind to get on HRT at 19 but I didn't get the skittles until 21?
>>5220505
If you don't transition before 20 you aren't true trans and are probably just a agp hon.
>>5220505
I'm not gonna be a hon, I'm afab
>>5220527
If you were actively doing something about it other than looking at shemale porn at or before 20 you are ok.
I say 20 cause most people give up at that age and don't do something about it till they are 30 or 35
>>5220671
started laser hair removal and makeup practice during the downtime desu
>>5218542
You can suppress feelings of gender dysphoria, but it requires a solid support system to be successful. Often times when such confusion exists, there may be some who try to feed the disfunction, making you question yourself endlessly.
Do not dwell on the social norms you may feel you do not live up to or reflect. Gender norms are not Truth, even if their influence is real. You are not defined by society. You are what you are born as, no matter what society tries to dictate.
Gender dysphoria is often the blind leading the blind. Those fooled by social constructs give into unnecessary and dangerous expectations. Never be ashamed with who you literally are, what you are born as. Surgery, hormones, make-up; these do not fix anything, only mask a deeper issue that often goes unaddressed.
>>5218771
Pretty sure OP said he's ftm which is a little easier to detransition from depending on how he looked to begin with.
>>5220808
Wouldn't FTM be harder to detransition from? T does some pretty extreme stuff
FTM is harder to detranition from. but you can start later in life. You can go on T at age 35 and look 100% male after less than two years.
>>5220546
I tried multiple times before 20 but couldn't actually do it until 22 due to a shitty family and external situation.
>>5220767
I'm going to a therapist in a week and I expect to hear this exact advice.
>learn to love yourself and all your problems go away
Please, spare us the bullshit.
yes, look into cbt
>>5221474
I've done cbt for depression. It was absolutely useless.
No. Never. But the odds are also against you completely ceasing to experience dysphoria if you do transition.
Recognize that your dysphoria will get worse over time if you do nothing at all, and give real consideration to whether you can better live your life if you transition (socially, medically, or both), or if you don't.
It's a huge chunk of who you are to yourself and the world. Don't make a rash decision, but don't fail to make a decision.
