I'm moderate on most issues, liberal on others.
I wanted to ask other LGBT people their thoughts on why it seems like most LGBT peeps seem in favor of Islam, when most muslims are way less tolerant than Christians and other faiths, and are even prone to violence.
..I'm a bit confused, what's the reason behind it and not most LGBT people being against Islam, due to the notorious intolerance of its practitioners?
Aren't they our foes?
I forgot to say, they're also in their vast majority quite misogynistic too.
>>5211768
I don't dislike arabs or whatever but I do dislike islam. Theres possibilities for them being more moderate but thats not going to happen if we bring way too many muslims over too fast.
"Islamic Shari'ah law is extracted from both the Qur'an and Muhammad's Sunnah (found in the Hadith and Sira). Islamic jurisprudence are expansion of the laws contained within them by Islamic jurists. Therefore, they are seen as the laws of Allah. You need only look to the rulings under Shari'ah to see the accepted mainstream interpretation of Islam and its commandments to its followers. Homosexuality under this law, is not only a sin, but a punishable crime against God.
In the case of homosexuality, how it is dealt with differs between the four mainline schools of Sunni jurisprudence today, but what they all agree upon is that homosexuality is worthy of a severe penalty."
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Islam_and_Homosexuality
I don't know, we dislike other people for being intolerant against LGBT, but it seems to me like we give muslims a free pass and even help them, when in truth they'd fuck us up if they had the power to do so.. Isn't this self destructive?
>>5211768
Many LGBT people have suffered immensely at the hands of apparently compassionate faiths.
Personally I don't understand at all why any organised religion is tolerated but I'm sure someone will let me know pretty fervently...
Because LGBT tends to be progressive, and progressive tends to be against anything that reeks of straight, white, male, i.e. the patriarchy. Since most muslims are not white, they ally with them. It's a cognitive dissonance, then they start experiencing how it was not such a good idea to support islam but still they blame it on evil white neo-nazis.
>>5211802
I understand your point. Yes, most religions are against LGBT, but I hardly see Christians nearly as violent as muslims seem to be against us.
Because lots of lgbts are indoctrinated by leftists (since leftists were the only ones who have ever supported lgbt rights).
If you want to know why leftists support both social progressivism and radical fundamentalists, you should go to /pol/, this isn't really the board to discuss such topics.
>>5211813
I won't get any rational discussion there, they'll just post memes. This is a question to other LGBT people.
>>5211806
Except when it comes to politics where as soon as Christianity enters the debate LGBT people are discriminated against, legislated against and generally treated as second class citizens.
>>5211824
Yes, I agree, but the extent to which Christians go compared to Muslims is far less extreme, don't you think?
I'm not saying Christians are our allies, I'm just saying why do we treat Islam and muslims as allies, when they're the same or even worse than religious Christians?
>>5211822
Well, LGBT people just identify with the only ideology they got any support from, without rationalizing it all. If the liberals/socialists/progressives say we should welcome Muslims, they will blindly do just that.
>>5211824
When it comes to politics where as soon as Islam enters the debate LGBT people are murdered, tortured and imprisoned.
There's plenty of Christian countries where gays are treated fine, or at least tolerable, but all Muslim countries criminalize such behavior.
>>5211806
Go to a Christian majority, sub-saharan country like Uganda, state that you're gay, and see how well people take it.
The reason the Christians that you see are not as violent as Muslims is because they were raised in Secular Liberal Countries where freedom of speech and thought are protected, and there are laws protecting Homosexuals from discrimination.
It's not surprising that the Few Muslims who were raised in those same Countries tend to be less hateful towards Homosexuals, since the Values of their countries influence the interpretation of their religion.
>>5211838
Yea, I don't understand this nonsense, we're basically supporting our would be murderers.
Just look at this map on LGBT rights and see the trend:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_by_country_or_territory#/media/File:World_laws_pertaining_to_homosexual_relationships_and_expression.svg
>>5211841
I'm not so sure, I've met and talked with some muslims in UK and other first world countries and to be honest, most of them still bear a concerning intolerance against gays, religious views against it and maybe would behave differently if it wasn't because there's laws that protect us in these countries.
>>5211853
>muslims in UK and other first world countries
Aren't raised secular at all.
