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old >>5188714
penis
>>5190658
I really do look like a man though.
Michelle is really good off but after 2 years I look manlier than ever.
>wander into designer clothes shop my mistake
Oops
>>5190715
How the fuck did you build the courage to go try on girls clothes in public? Jesus didn't anyone throw stuff at you?
>>5190721
despite what your mom may have said
nobody cares
>>5190700
>At least she went on a date, I haven't even talked to any other human besides my parents.
https://clyp.it/ynkrktyy
also errybody should post voice clips more often. The more practice you get the better your voice will sound.
Who else gets to ogle male muscles whenever they want in the mirror
>>5190727
I get to see my handsome 22 year old man beast face
>>5190721
she got the courage after she bought her woman's clothing permit, she just has to show people her permit and they fuck off.
>>5190726
>also errybody should post voice clips more often. The more practice you get the better your voice will sound.
maybe in a week or two :S
>>5190721
I've gone to several stores in guy mode and tried on the women's clothing and shoes. They're there to make a sale, no cares given, and typically friendly as can be.
>>5190721
The floor assistant just gave that stuff to me
The jeans and shirt was like $100 though and I'm not paying that even with my parents' money
>>5190714
Don't we all.
>>5190726
I don't like it when I post voice and people recognize me.
>>5190727
sometimes i get to ogle my cats if they're nearby
>>5190738
https://clyp.it/zu1d0otx
>>5190743
I don't think you understand how manly I am.
I literally scare people with my masculinity
>>5190742
Designer clothes and they look like old navy half the time. No way José, not at those prices.
>get home from work last night after not sleeping the night before
>exhausted
>gf made dinner
>gf cleaned up
>get in bed
>fall asleep
>wake up 30 minutes later to her lewding my butt
That was a good feel
>>5190751
confirmed for bexe's crush
>>5190752
wow I didn't take you to be a bragger
>>5190753
lmao i appreciate the sentiment but everyone knows my voice sucks and doesn't want to hear it. i've been working on it a little harder lately though and am hoping to make some progress soon.
>>5190742
uggggh I found some really cute sweaters at urban outfitters the other day but they were all like $60-80
>>5190759
>lewding my butt
I've never seen it put that way
>tfw no one to lewd my butt ;~;
>>5190756
Right?
She offered to hold them for two days and I was like "sure I'll think about it overnight"
Would boy on hrt be okay you think?
It would help with dysphoria and maybe I could just live like that.
>>5190769
Heh maybe over a fortnight
>>5190770
If it was enough to help with dysphoria then your last two years would have been productive and happy.
>>5190770
I mean, I don't visibly object to people calling me sir but I'm %200 happier since starting hrt
>>5190754
Ok.....
so what do you want me to do about it?
>well hey there what's going on:)
>>5190627
Do I really come off as passive aggressive?
>>5190781
No, Kayla is just T raging.
>>5190781
>listening to Kayla
Seriously though, you don't
>>5190781
>camo
caddy n-no...
>>5190774
It helped a bit I think but I don't know what to do, so frustrating.
Dysphoria really sucks ;_;
>>5190777
It feels awful when people call me a boy but sir and stuff isn't used here.
>>5190769
The entire reason is so when someone asks where you got it you can say van maur, neiman Marcus, nordstrom etc. You walk away feeling fancy and the other person is like, "that bitch is cray"
>>5190781
You do come off as successful and happy so in a way it feels like bragging, but whatever, disregard me because I am a worthless piece of shit.
>>5190793
Don't let the green eyed monster keep you down.
>>5190795
what does that mean?
How do I upgrade my fashion sense from skinny jeans and t-shirts?
>>5190797
Shes talking about envy.
>>5190797
god ur dumb
>>5190793
You really are
>>5190798
I don't even get skinny jeans. Whats the point?
>>5190797
Jealousy, envy, W/e. If someone's happy and doing well, and it feels like bragging, that's usually why. Just saying don't let it get you down, from what I've seen you're doing better and better as time goes by. Way better than standing still or regressing. So good job :)
Post itt if you hate elanna
>>5190810
They make your legs look nice.
>>5190810
Uh, to cover your legs?
>>5190810
Legs you fool
>>5190811
>living in america
pls
an old lady I had to meet called me a boy recently, I wanted to cry.
>>5190811
Where in the south? I'm a Tennessean stuck in the Midwest.
>>5190820
NC, the one the south doesn't want and the north won't take
Should I start tripping? I want someone to notice me more
>>5190798
I'd get into it but that's a laundry list of stuff.
>>5190828
As long as you don't steal my future trip name.
>>5190828
do it senpai, and post anime reaction images and cute selfies
Fuck the pain away
>>5190828
tripping so senpai will notice you is probably the purest reason too
>>5190828
It doesn't make much of a difference
>>5190827
lmao
>just playing video games all day
haha i feel like a piece of shit!!! oh well!!!!!!
>you will never pass or be cis
Why even live?
>>5190843
i've been lazy and watching dr who and posting all day but there's still plenty of day left. im about to go jogging to try to restart my brain
>>5190843
wot u been playing bbe
better not be no weeb shit
>>5190798
It's >reddit but /r/femalefashionadvice is not bad for someone who knows literally nothing about clothes to learn some basics
>>5190830
I need someone to be my personal stylist because I have no idea what I'm doing
>>5190827
No bad person, someone having it better off than you because they had different opportunities and/or tried harder than you does not mean they are bad people and unable to have opinions on things.
>>5190857
I don't want your fucking sympathy and so what, the fact that they come here to brag makes them worse then me.
>tfw too hon to transition properly
>tfw too dysphoric to just be boy
>tfw too tranny to live
>tfw too old to transition now
>>5190860
They didn't try harder, they were just always happy extroverts.
>>5190864
What are the current cliques rn?
>>5190853
Thanks anon that looks pretty helpful!
>>5190827
I tend to think people who are being petulant about their position are too busy complaining in an envious (if justified) rage; rather than accepting what is and not only working to better that position, but also working to change their perception on their place. I don't believe much of anything "makes" you a bad person, but I do believe people typically reap what's been sown. Don't mind me though, I use old sayings.
>>5190866
WEEB SHIT!
You have friends from /v/?
I'm happy for you, I hope it all works out very well for you.
>>5190866
What happened to quentin anyways?
>>5190863
you do want their sympathy though lol
no1curr kayla fuck off
if you actually did fuck off, you wouldn't be here to see their "bragging"
>>5190877
without money and connections its impossible to work myself out of my shitty situation, its only down for me till I hang myself or end up homeless. I don't want it to be this way but there is nothing I can do about it, other people took my opportunities away and used them on themselves.
>>5190877
preach it sister
>>5190859
*pet pet* there there. I wish I had a personal stylist too.
You just need a senpai and YouTube tutorials.
>>5190887
Kayla, is there really nothing you can do to find a shitty job? Even like working in Walmart, or cleaning, it's a start. Don't take that attitude. There must be something.
>>5190896
>A senpai
>>5190866
>QUENTIN
Fucking gross why would you play with that arsehole?
>>5190900
Why would I ever work at a walmart? I despise stores. I want a desk job.
>try REI
>spend less time in the store than it took to find a parking space
I don't want to go to the mall...
> no senpai
> no gods
>>5190863
>the fact that they come here to brag
bragging like this, you mean?
>>5190914
Beggars can't be choosers. Just anything to get you out the house and then you can start working towards something you want.
>>5190887
Kayla we are in the same damn boat. K? I lost my job, have zero income, the place I live in is owned by someone else and threatens me half the time. I'm days front the street with no car, prospects, friends, or family. I'd suck a dick in order to get $60, in fact, I did. First bit of money I've had in three months. No one, til now, knows that about me, and I don't boo fucking hoo about it all god damn day while playing my sorrowful violin. Good day to you. I'm out.
>>5190914
>Why would I ever work at a walmart?
You're an unemployed moocher who lives with your mom at 26 years old.
You are not better then someone who works at walmart.
>>5190933
you're wasting your time. kayla is a contrarian cunt who will bend everything to make herself the worst-off person in the world until she decides that actually she's fine and going to brag about the kind of shit she complains about everyone normal posting about
>>5190870
Of course nobody else can be successful from trying other than you
>>5190933
speaking of that dick, are you still getting the job?
I don't want to see you out on the street and working it ;~;
>>5190927
>naughty secretary.jpg
lol, no offense but he dresses like an average middle aged crossdresser
and that filename is gross, it's like only a fetishist could come up with that
>>5190914
>>5190939
Point made and I agree.
>>5190939
She kind of sounds like a narcissist
>>5190933
>has to suck dicks of potentially dangerous men for a living
stay safe kid
>>5190933
I would suck dick for money if I was pretty enough but no one would pay me for sex.
>>5190927
oh wow like I was able to brag one time, big deal, no one even responded anyway
>>5190929
no, if I got a shit job I would be stuck there forever
>>5190930
The average walmart employee makes the company over $100,000 dollars per year and yet they get paid maybe $14,000 a year. I will not slave like that and make others rich, I refuse and if more people took a stand like me the world would not be ran by greedy lords.
>>5190701
> men
I'm a tits girl
>>5190701
>pookie
HellooOO??
>>5190828
Yea if you want to get into all the cool cliques go ahead xDDD
>>5190843
Didn't u say u hate video games hello ????
>>5190935
I agree T B HON
>>5190759
>tfw no gf to lewd your butt
>>5190869
iktf
>>5190953
At her worst, Kayla sounds like holic while at her best she sounds like Dollface.
>>5190955
you'd be stuck there if you don't motivate yourself to leave. If not Walmart then at least some other shitty job. But this way. you're just going to be stuck at home for ever. Do something. Get out there and start your life you idiot
>>5190942
After that bullshit I realized I'm not cut out for it. Walmart is not below me, peddling hooker though? Tried it, fuck that.
>>5190955
kayla I will pay you $500/mo to live with me and be my personal bitch
How can you turn people gay?
>tfw 22 years old hon
>tfw life is over in 8 years
>>5190977
>discards advices of other people
fuck you you stupid fuck, die already
>>5190983
Be hot as fuck and trick all the boys into wanting you.
>2015
>still engaging with kayla
>not having him filtered
>>5190983
Be hot, have a great personality, flirt enough that they realize the door is open and start to think about it.
>>5190987
I want to turn a girl gay though
>>5190977
>I have never went to a walmart or a target and I never will.
>I have never went to a walmart
>went
Yeah the people or Walmart may be above you..
>>5190986
No one gave me advice, people are just yelling shit at me. Not one person has given me any step by step advice on bettering myself and moving on.
> have a full time job for a month now
> starting to feel like I'm becoming an adult
FUCK, MAKE IT STOP
Also everyone at work thinks I'm in my mid twenties for some reason when I'm only turning 19 in a month
>>5190983
Alcohol
>>5190995
Kit is fine just how she is.
>>5190995
I'm afraid it's impossible friend.
>>5190996
I could srsly use a live-in maid
>>5190996
Attitude is everything. I learned all about it in rehab :^)
There's a whole world outside of yourself check it out sometime.
>>5190997
Really? Last time I checked people who go to walmart can't even basic math let alone differential equations.
>>5190996
lol
Kayla what the fuck.
If you can't be arsed to go out there and apply for things, or look for the necessary experience you're not going to get handed it on a plate.
Seriously. No one is saying you can 'think' yourself out of trouble, but without motivation you're just going to be stuckat home until your parents kick you out or die.
>>5191006
I'm giving you advice, Kayla, you need to look for some form of job. Without money you cannot do anything.
>>5191006
Buy rope
Tie noose
Kill self
Or
Turn off computer
Get a job
????
Profit
There you go to solid ways to better yourself
>>5190971
oh good, you seem like a decent person and I was hoping you weren't going to do that.
I've done mturk for extra money on days off, maybe look into that?
>>5191013
Pretty much this.
At best you'll find someone with a sissification fetish.
>>5191006
Nobody owes you that and why should they bother when you refuse to even take step one of "get a survival job"
>... human males unable to win in a direct confrontation with an alpha have been observed employing several other tactics to acquire a mate. The most disturbing of these methods is camouflage; creepy betas will use their camouflage abilities to disguise themselves as a female. Growing out their hair, getting breast implants, and even lobbying local legislatures for "civil rights" ordinances, disguised males are able to enter the washrooms designated for the opposite sex and mate with females.
>>5191018
All the jobs I look for require a crazy amount of qualifications. The only one I found that I like is launch site prep for Space X but I didn't want to be outdoors or break a sweat.
>>5190991
>him
thats not cool lily
>>5190996
>People are born into a position in life and they stay there till death, there is no changing what kind of person you are.
Bitch you gotta work.
Right now I'm working at goodwill to save up money for living on my own, after that I'm going to get my CNA, and then I'm going to get a nursing degree.
Find a goal and make a plan bitch
>>5191039
So basically you can't get a job because you're to picky and under qualified, seriously maybe you should look at college or walmart
>>5191028
> when "seem like a good person" feels better than it should
Lol thanks, I'm going to sleep now. My fucking head is killing me.
>>5191035
I don't want any job, I want a career for life, something I can grow into and have respect from thousands of adorning people. I want to make a difference in the world, not be another mindless drone.
>>5191039
You have to take something basic to survive!
If you want qualifications, how do you think you will get them? By working, by finding training programmes, etc. ALl of which require getting your foot on the ladder. Please, just think about this logically.
>>5191039
>I don't want to be outdoors or break a sweat
KEK
>>5191006
>people in walmart can't clean their asses
>ive never been in a walmart.
quit shitposting girl and eat the corporeal dick like the rest of us have to.
>>5191051
most people who get those kinds of jobs do it by working up to them
>>5191043
>>5191017
You are nit better than anyone. You're exactly the same as these entitled millennials who pretend to hate themselves but see themselves as better than anyone else in the world. Somehow exemplified from working hard, expecting a comfortable job handed to you for literally no reason.
You are not better than anyone who works at walmart. Grow up and work towards something. You've waited so long you need to do shit jobs because on paper you have nothing hirable about you.
>>5191039
>but I didn't want to be outdoors or break a sweat.
Are you serious
>>5191051
so does everyone else
except they are actively striving for it
unlike you who just complains about not having it handed to you
>one other woman in the gym is the only other person here
>looking at me like 'why does that man have tits'
>>5191037
Cuddlefish do it
>>5191054
I don't know what job to look for exactly. I want to be at a desk and I don't want to talk to anyone, I don't want to deal with people. I have qualifications for drafting but I can't find any drafting jobs that don't require a fucking bachelors in quantum fucking physics.
Arguing with Kayla. What are you hoping to achieve?
>two years hrt
>can't pass no matter what
>>5191070
Have you applied for any such jobs recently?
>>5191077
>year and a half hrt
>look worse than my prehrt pictures
>>5191082
Me too to be honest.
I think hormones had the opposite effect on me.
WAY more masculine than before hrt.
>tfw man chin
Why do people keep telling me that they think I'm in my mid twenties
>>5191066
https://clyp.it/jc1apnyy
>>5191067
fucking cardio bunnies
REEEEEEE------
>>5191082
This is my greatest fear.
Or at least the greatest of my realistic fears.
>>5191072
>Are you sure?
I am sure.
If you can't have him, kill him?
>>5191081
>work at a desk, no people
I'd love to see where this goes.
>>5191093
being a cardio bunny was all i ever dreamed of ^_^
>>5191095
No, i'm super masculine and hormones made it worse.
My dad could probably pass better than me.
>>5191096
Ricky there must be a way though?
>>5191090
> forgot the picture
Baka desu
>>5191100
I think I spent like 16-18 hours playing Anno 2205 today... Damn, that game is addictive. Got a lvl 51 organization, on the middle difficulty (not hardest, not easiest)
>>5191069
awww,
more like cutefish
>>5191108
qt senpai. Very qt
>>5191106
In that road there's only hurt. I'm sorry anon.
>>5191059
>corporeal dick
Lol
>>5191108
https://clyp.it/0eugbrcr
>>5190788
Lol! SERIOUSLY YOU FEEL THE NEED TO TELL ME NO? Thanks for looking out for me though.
>>5190793
If anything is two faced about me it's that I do everything I can to stay cheery because I feel like that's the only way I can keep going. I don't feel like a happy person but I refuse to be someone that's just a rain cloud bring everyone else down. I still sad post pretty often considering.
I'm sorry though. Nothing I've posted is meant to be malicious.
>>5190977
I promise if you ever live alone and they are around you will go to a store like that? Where else can you go to get a blender, a curtain rod and a bottle of wine in one place?
>>5191010
Feels weird yeah.
>tfw 30 min conversations about health insurance and retirement plans
Just fuck my youth up senpai
>>5191138
hahaha I was like
>I knew Caddy was a southern girl but damn
>>5191104
definitely dysphoria
>>5191102
I was complimenting you <3
git dat body you want gurl
>>5191146
> blender, curtain rod, and wine.
I see your goals are in the proper place. ^.^
>>5191104
>My dad could probably pass better than me
funniest thing I've heard in awhile
>>5191100
This is what imean, the only positions I can think of would require qualifications you don't have.
And how COULD you get them? Some form of college course or training? But again, how can you afford that, by getting a shitty job to begin with to fund you through
>>5191139
I remember quentin from the ishygddt days. Good times.
I'm getting ready to go to therapy for depression. I want to ask my therapist about starting HRT, how exactly does that work?
I live in Oklahoma (US), for what it's worth.
>>5191095
No, I am literally worse off than when I started. It's not dysphoria making me feel that way, there are objective measures by which things have gotten worse.
>>5191133
> hearing someone say I'm cute
Daww, thanks. Hearing something makes everything better.
>>5191162
Oh, also - Am I allowed to post lewd/revealing here? I wanna post some body shots, see if anyone thinks I'll pass. I'm infinitely worried that I don't already have a girly enough figure. :c
>>5191151
<3 thanks anon!!
>>5191162
is it a new therapist? have they treated trans people before? it might just be as easy as saying
>im trans
>gimme hormones
>>5191139
Maybe next time it won't be weebshit <3
>>5191172
Its a blue board, so link anything lewd from somewhere else.
>>5191162
Oklahoma you say? "Well howdy Doc, thanks for the pick me ups, but can we talk about how I can become a little lady? My bustle won't fit right and I need help if I'm Eva gonna be a southern belle." ;) there you go.
Shopping is awful
The only pants that actually fit well were the $70 designer jeans
>>5191146
Country boys are never as charming as they think they are. Like no, I don't want to fuck you after you tell me about getting your truck stuck in the mud on purpose.
>>5191183
The southerners need to have a hondown. O.o
>>5191192
Dunno what your talking about, saying that made my pants fall off on their own.
>>5191178
lol
>>5191179
> work at goodwill
> got a 25% off voucher for us having no safety accidents
> stacks with my 20% employee discount
> and color tag sales
I'm going on a fucking spree after I see my therapist on Monday
>>5191178
And don't forget to pronounce the invisible h at the end of "eva"
I am bored. What is something fun I could do?
>>5191210
Yasss
>>5191192
I guess you're not into rock crawling in a jeep?
>>5191214
Stop anon, you're giving me the vapors..Madi catch me.
>>5191192
God country boys and southern gentlemen are the worst types of white boy
Here's that picture, BTW. Linking it from imgur because SFW board.
http://i.imgur.com/XKA62td.jpg
>>5191197
Please! That'd be fun. <3
>>5191211
kill yourself.
>>5191211
I really don't know. What do you like doing? You could dance, that's fun, right?
>>5190524
Sorry for the late reply.
It depends on your genetics and health. I was given an estimated time 6 months to 1 year.
>>5190529
Some here will be able to afford ffs or other surgeries.
Also remember how you claim that most people here just magically "teleported" to the finish line of their transitions?
>showing off everyday
What? Like seriously?
>>5190603
None of us think we're above anyone.
You're just fucking retarded.
Please go back to having your mommy rule over you ;)
>>5191229
Oh, sorry. You're a little too late so I guess I'll kill myself since the first anon said so.
>>5191225
Well you're my type at least
>>5191165
https://clyp.it/pe5ze435
>>5191235
lmao
well,
goodbye, I'll miss you!
>>5191225
whoa lewd
where's the tinklerer?
>>5191234
>None of us think we're above anyone.
>You're just fucking retarded.
Thank you for saying what I was thing.
>>5191235
See you in hell. Hope its not all its cracked up to be desu
>>5191234
It doesn't look that bad in your pics, the swelling, so hopefully it will all be undercontrol eventually.
>>5191243
Dibs on this anon..
>>5191231
>tfw you masturbate with a sharpie because no dildo
where 2 buy a cheap toy?
>>5191115
Oh sorry anon I just remembered you replied
I don't think cutefish works as well because cuddlefish is a more subtle play on cuttlefish
>>5191252
Fuck off, she going to be my friend.
>>5191255
Produce dept. Lol sorry, couldn't help myself.
>tfw HRT made my body feminine but my face masculine
>>5191225
Fucking Noelle
I think i'm gonna go grocery shopping tonight, please give me meal suggestions for next week
>>5191258
I've always been told to share.
>>5191263
Hello me
>>5191271
1.cock
2.cock
3.cock
But srsly lasagne I can never get enough of that shit
>>5191279
caddyyyyy talk to meee on skype
>>5191243
I believe step 1 is tell your therapist you're experiencing gender dysphoria
They'll probably send you to a specialist if they aren't one, and you tell them
Then there's a bit of a process but they recommend you for feminizing hormone treatment/hormone replacement therapy and the MD's give you a script for some combination of titty skittles and gril pills
You eat those as directed and 6-12 months later your penis falls off revealing a vagina and your tits come in the mail
>>5191271
Mac n' cheese?
>>5191281
I fucking love lasagna.
>>5191279
Caddy.. D-did you just tell me to fuck myself? ;-; b-but that's what bless your heart means..
>>5191179
i have like 5 pairs of $90 jeans
All women are whores, why do you all want to be whores? Don't you have any self respect?
>>5191148
Def not just dysphoria.
>>5191157
What? ;_;
>>5191308
>>5191307
They don't seem to help much.
>>5191314
Why is this so hot I am totally doing this fuck fuck fuck
>>5191312
You shouldn't feel ashamed of living with your parent and being on their insurance at 18, we're in a shitty worldstate and jobs are impossible to come by, especially for young people.
>>5191303
>bless your heart means go fuck yourself
Lol what? No, it's patronizing sure but not like derogatory.
>>5191322
Sandwiches, ez
Get some wheat bread, maybe tortillas. Turkey, pepper jack cheese
Low carb, tasty as fug
>people still get surprised Kayla is a fucking retard
Lmao
But why??
Tigers don't change their stripes. Old dogs don't learn new tricks. Etc
>>5191330
I can't help but feel bad, I dunno. They offered to let me live with them through college, but isn't 18 years long enough? :c