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>>5184069
What are you all listening to? I looked up some songs that have a big difference between the left and right headphone, and am listening to a bunch of those.
Also, I think I might not be a virgin, so that is a thing. I keep reading people saying that it hurts, but it really did not. I think those people are doing something wrong.
>>5185047
you think you might not be a virgin? how does that work? you don't know? or did i read that wrong cuz i'm high?
my s/o is listening to sublime, bad fish, and the birds are singing along with it... they fucking love this song
Will I look like a lesbian forever?
Any other ftms start testosterone after the age of 24?
>>5185281
Well, PIV happened, but for about thirty seconds before we both realized that we should stop and use protection, but then we got distracted and never got back to it.
So I know, and by definitions I that was my virginity, but I am not sure I am going to count it in the long term.
>>5185289
So far as I know FtM "hons" are not really a thing. T is magic, and 24 is not that late.
>>5185352
I started at 25, stopped at 26, now starting back up at 27. When I was on T the first time I had already started getting not-really-obvious chin hair, I was so excited. Hoping it'll kick in and work it's magic again after I took a year break.
>>5185409
Why did you stop for that year?
As well, and it is okay if you do not want to share, what happened to your junk when you went off? I would be pretty sad if my growth went away.
>>5184069
pre-op's, do you take your shirts off when you have sex?
>>5185289
I started T in February at the age of 24. I have been on it 8 months now, and I pass 100%.
>>5185428
No. My binder stays on.
>>5185428
I don't think I'd ever be able to do that. There'd be so much... movement. I'm so binder reliant that a lack of pressure on my chest makes me really anxious, which is probably why I sleep on my front...
>>5185352
i think all that means is your first time kinda sucked... no big deal, first times usually aren't all that special or amazing... kinda just how shit is
no big deal, other times will be significantly better and that's more important anyway...
>>5185428
it's not my preference but i have and will depending on the person or honestly what ends up happening... i don't think during sex i try to just experience it cuz it's nice to sorta drown yourself in another person for a bit, and not deal with shit...
idk... i can't see a reason to pollute sex with too much thinking i guess so if it happens it happens...
>>5185352
>So far as I know FtM "hons" are not really a thing. T is magic, and 24 is not that late.
I knew it. FtMs don't struggle like us MtFs do.
Are chasers welcome here? What do you think of cis gay guys who want to pump your fronthole?
>>5186046
Kill yourself.
>>5185047
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSmuzEzeAeY&list=PLUfEAhHigtv72ou9oVCjNKCNckN-Lm0nY&index=3
>>5186057
finally someone who will fuck me
>>5185428
Sports bra and a shirt
we do some very athletic things, we could easily break our ribs
>>5186057
str8
>>5186057
whoever's willing to tolerate garbage such as myself, i guess
>>5186057
Sure, go for it.
>>5186057
Goals honestly
>>5186192
>>5186206
>>5186312
Wow you guys are making me sad. Cheer up homies!
>>5186233
>>5186307
Thanks, I won't be too obnoxious
>>5186196
I mean yeah I guess, I mean I've only dated guys except for a couple of girls in high school, but I didn't HATE having sex with girls, I just like guys way more. I'm curious about dating someone who's a guy but also fucking cunt occasionally. I briefly dated a nice ftm earlier this year but he moved away before we got too close.
>>5186575
Do you live in Michigan?
>>5186036
>i think all that means is your first time kinda sucked... no big deal, first times usually aren't all that special or amazing... kinda just how shit is
Yeah, it is not like I am bothered or anything. We certainly managed to have fun anyway, just stepped down to our usual "hands-only" thing.
Just means we are going to try to keep protection stuff more on hand in the future so we do not have to go through the awkward stopping thing.
>>5186691
>not letting them raw your slutty boihole
>>5186809
>Risking pregnancy
I would really rather not go through that particular trauma, thanks.
>>5186057
I think I'd rather vomit all over your dick, mate. No thanks.
Pretty sure you're not totally gay if you want to fuck a vagina.
How do I make him love me?
>people using their front hole
My mind can't comprehend that it even exists but part of me thinks to never use it would be a waste. Anyone else not able to use it at all?
>>5186662
Nah, Kentucky, nobody lives here.
>>5186875
Eh I don't really care about genitals anymore, it's all the same shit. Rub on them, preferably wet, partner goes "oooh" for a while, it doesn't really matter. Label if you want.
>>5187388
Find out what he likes and then do that thing a lot. Could be cooking peach cobblers, could be playing video games together, could be letting him cream in your front hole. Just find out his single favorite thing and do it all the time.
>>5186057
>pump your fronthole
hottest album of 2015 desu
I love jerking off! I love being on T!!
Do you guys like ftm porn? I started following a bunch of ftm porn blogs on tumblr and it's gr8
>>5187894
Elongated clits are kinda weird
They're like alien tongues
>>5187894
bonus hole boys is absolute garbage. The only dudes there that actually look like dudes are the cis guys.
>>5187894
+1 memepost
>>5186057
distant vomitting
>>5187600
I usually don't really mind stuff on the outside, like rubbing and so forth, but the idea of penetration is absolutely repulsive to me. Not that I could do it anyways since I have a ton of scar tissue in that area so it isn't really stretchy enough to accommodate fingers, let alone peen.
But sometimes anything related to my body is disgusting to me, regardless of the situation.
warning: blogging
i've started my mission to hang out at my local punk café until i can find a dealer, and beyond. so far i'm trying not to go incredibly often or be overly friendly so as not to seem suspicious. they've got a bar with stools in the middle, though, so even when i spend more time inside i'm not hogging a whole table.
>>5187995
>scar tissue in that area
That was uncomfortable to read. But same about outside stimulation. Anything internal is just weird and uncomfortable despite not being a virgin. I get no pleasure from it and at 'best' I can tolerate it if you're ok with me being bored and slightly annoyed the entire time.
>>5188672
>partner is bored and slightly annoyed while I'm plowing him
This is my fetish.
Why is it that FtM porn is always with uglyass people (in my view that is)? I mean, maybe I haven't looked enough, but it's not even about the vagina, it's that even if the person had a dick I'd still find them goddamn unattractive.
I can't look at FtM porn without barfing... The only time I was turned on by it was by a doujinshi. And technically it wasn't really FtM 'cause the guy had a penis but just magically got a vagina and uhh shit, is this too NSFW for this board
pls no ban senpai ;_;
>>5189138
I agree. I've known some very attractive people in real life, both androgynous skinny girly FtMs and big ripped burly muscular bearded FtMs, those guys clean up nicely.
But internet FtM porn is something out of a horror film.
So is there birth control that isn't female hormones? Or should I even bother because I don't menstruate any more because of T?
>>5189432
There is a type of coil which is copper and that releases no hormones. Better to be protected, but I doubt you'd get preggo.
>>5189542
>putting copper coils inside you to prevent biology
>tfw FtMs are cyborgs
>>5189679
I've no qualms with this.
My sorta fwb wants me to give him a lap dance. How should I dress? Any advice? Google is giving me stuff for women...
Tfw no ftm bf ;_;
T is one hell of a thing
>tfw doc tells me I should start taking the pill to help relieve my menstruation flow/pain/microcysts
>estrogen
nope nope nope nope nope nope nope
>>5186057
I have always been repulsed by the idea of being on the receiving end of penetrative sex, especially vaginal sex. It's a part of my body that I feel like shouldn't be there. I don't want anything near it.
Although I'm always into giving out beejez.
>>5190063
Beat up your doctor and eat his testicles to gain their power
>>5190063
i get that dysphoria isn't a rational thing, that it can cover completely culturally-dependent stuff like clothing and style of speech, but sometimes i worry that the levels of revulsion i see for hormonal birth control in this thread go beyond dysphoria and are tied more to learned superstition than inherent/uncontrollable dysphoria.
>>5190145
holy kekks
>>5190527
Yeah right, if estrogen already makes you depressed, adding more of it isn't going to help. Birth control already fucks up the emotions of cis women.
>>5186046
>I knew it. FtMs don't struggle like us MtFs do.
I think this depends on the person.
I'm a FtM with a MtF girlfriend. She has no problems at all, but then again she could probably take on WW3 with a smile.
Me on the other hand get loads of hate for the transition but this is mostly related to the fact that I'm shy so I seem insecure about a lot of things.
When people see me they think they have confirmed that gendertransition is a mental disorder. When people see her they think gender transition is an empowerment.
>>5190145
Approved
>>5190599
if that depression is dysphoria-related, more estrogen wouldn't make it any worse unless you're constantly thinking about its increased presence, or unless you started with unusually high testosterone levels, since it can't feminize you any further. and hormonal birth control only triggers depression and mood swings in some women - all medical treatments have risks attached, and this one is in no way exceptionally bad.
>tfw no cuntboy bf to trigger
Okay so, I am just so confused lately. Like, I have no idea if I really wanna be MtF or if I just am fetishizing it. I don't think I would honestly mind being MtF, but I don't think I could pull it off. I don't think I really like being a "man," and I do think I'd like to be treated like a girl. But there's just something in my gut that's like no. I would also love to just be dressed up and fucked senesless like a sissy but I am like so manly looking, even with being super skinny.
Maybe I'm just gayer than I once thought? (I'm bi) I want to be the submissive one :3
>>5190940
Are you in the wrong thread? This is ftm gen
>>5190710
>be ftm
>partner calls me pussyboy during sex
>tfw surprisingly down with it
>>5191487
autoandrophilic scum
>>5185428
>tfw not a preop no more
it's an abstract kind of feel
>>5191502
>>5191648
Mmm bb pls abuse me some more.
>>5191749
Nah. Pretending is stupid as fuck. We have these things. Once we have bottom surgery, we will call our genitals what we then have. Until then, lying is fucking ridiculous & pathetic imho. Own up to the shit you have & grow up. Calling your vag a dick is as bad as a mtf calling her dick a clit.
>>5191838
I think the point they're getting at is you don't really need to be like you're a cuntboy or whatever, not coming up withsugar coated genital nicknames
I usually just use 'junk' 99% referring to my genitals. If I'm getting technical and explaining something, I use vagina, clit, canal, cunt, etc.
Even in stealth when someone mentions 'my dick' it my dysphoria skyrockets. I don't have one and I just can't convince or delude myself into thinking I have something I don't.
>>5191975
phalloplasty when
>>5185289
I'm 23 and on t. I've been on t for 4 years. Still look super young but my voice is very deep. Thanks to my race I am not so hairy looking.
>On my way to work on the public bus
>Listen to music as always
>Accidentally drop my phone because I'm a clutz
>Slowly pull my headphone chord
>Feel something heavy
>Look back, 9/10 girl hands me my phone
>Spill my spaghetti and awkwardly say "th-thanks" with a smile
>Something in my mind said to strike up a conversation with her
>Because I'm so beta just turn up my music
>Get off the bus and notice she keeps looking at me with a smile
Anyone else feel discouraged at times? I assume all super hot girls won't ever flirt with trans guys.
>>5191981
Never because its shit. Meto is more likely, but not enough to win me over completely. I can't deal with babydick either. If phallo at least looked realistic, I could deal with it not working like a real dick but I think I've only seen one case where phallo didn't look fucking horrifying.
>>5193036
You can talk to a girl without the end goal being to taste her pussy mucus you know. Sometimes it's nice just to talk to someone.
>>5187600
I only had vaginal sex once, after that, NEVER AGAIN. I refuse to even date.
>>5189872
>order sexy jockstrap online, stuff it with a roll of socks or dildo/packer
>wear clothes/shoes that can easily be removed
>shake your booty in his face a lot in between peeling off layers of clothes
>get down to jock strap, sit on lap, grind on his diamond dick
>all done
>>5193036
What's your job, bud?
>>5190657
Not that anon, but I have pretty severe PCOS. Severe enough that I have a full on neckbeard, mustache, and sideburns. However, IRL I am closeted as fuck due to being unemployed and in the middle of fucking nowhere, so I literally have no access to any kind of doctors or hormones.
Right now, the only thing keeping me sane is the fact that I don't menstruate and can grow facial hair.
Birth control pills would most likely put a stop to all of that, and I would fucking kill myself if I had to take that shit.
I know that I am a rare exception, but I felt the need to point out that for the statistical anomalies such as myself, female hormones really are a big deal.
>>5193158
>hot girl gives you a clear opening
>not heading straight for the pearl dive to bathe in the cunt slime
>>5193158
>pussy mucus
i am repulsed
>>5193339
it's better than semen which gets you preggers
>inb4 nuh uh semen is delicious and i swallow all of it
like the straight girl you are.
>>5193411
Don't make fun of my gay FtMs who swallow my semen
I mean if I ever dated one, dirty chaser that I am
>>5193267
I work at a tool store.
>>5191912
>boipussy
Nope. Gross. Never used that term. In fact, isn't this a cis gay term to refer to the anus?
>>5191852
>cuntboy
I don't see the problem with my partner & I calling this one another to make us feel better about our bottom dysphoria.
Jeeze 4chins stop being such squares.
>>5191975
This. I prefer being fetishized than lying to myself and my husband is the same way.
I love ftm general because if i leave for a few days and come back were still in the same thread. I'm never missing anything.
I have decided to go full full specail snowflake and identify as a "sex-dysphoric female transhumanist," which means I think trans politics are 100% bullshit and I want nothing to do with them, but I want that sweet sweet T anyway.
>>5194007
Post butt
>>5185352
>no FtM hons
>tfw 25, 5'0" on T for over a year and still don't pass/look extremely feminine
>voice barely dropped and is still extremely high pitched even with constant voice training
m-maybe if I just keep taking them and working out, it'll all work out, r-right guys?
>>5193038
Where have you seen all these cases of phallo?
>>5189154
Ugly people want attention more than pretty people, so they do porn.
>>5194675
Grow beard.
>>5194687
I'm trying. It's very light and soft and only grows around my neck and gets about 1/3 of an inch long. I haven't shaved it in months and I'm still getting mam'd. I fucking bet you it's because I live in special-snowflake central in California. If I were back home in the midwest I have a feeling people would see me as male more.
>>5194675
It will. It's bound to. For the voice to get to the final pitch it takes a few years. Just be patient. Even if it isn't the deep growly voice you might desire. Some boys have their voices in the androgynous range, just with a little more resonance. You should know.
Can't guarantee your looks are gonna change greatly. Maybe you're gonna end up babyfaced with a beard.
>>5194695
As long as I actually pass as male, I don't even care anymore. I can be the most girly man in the world, at this point I just want people to stop calling me a woman. I'm hanging in there for now, but it's getting pretty frustrating. I'm trying to build up my shoulders pretty big now to compensate for my insanely wide hips and narrow ribcage, so hopefully that helps a bit until T can do the rest.
>>5194675
I may be short and other things, but at least I ended up with a fairly deep and monotone voice pre t. Good luck, buddy.
>>5191487
>If there are ftms that dislike this, Idk where they're at.I hate my genitals being called a dick etc. It's a clit and a cunt. End of story.
i understand having preferences when it comes to the language you use to talk about your body. i use cock for myself instead of clit because aesthetics m8, just as an example.
>>5191749
i can get pretty severe dysphoria at times actually, but that has really nothing to do with what i or my partner call my genitals.
![4bc5d01e7c1501be2140609516c0e300[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/clxYd1r.jpg "4bc5d01e7c1501be2140609516c0e300[1].jpg")
>tfw
>>5195413
>tfw you will never beard that hard
>>5195516
You will beard harder than beards have bearded one day bud dude bro holmes mate chap
Being really horny when you have guests over in a studio apartment is hell.
I mean, there is always furious hand jobs under the covers in the dead of night, but still. It is not the ideal solution.
>>5196234
idk... i've fucked around in a car under a blanket... and on a bus so... i don't see why a studio apartment would be hard to find a spot in
>>5196497
Well, with two guests over, it is not like we could disappear to the next room without it being really obvious what we are up to.
Which, if that is cool with the kind of house guests you have that is great, but we do not have those kinds of house guests.
>>5196507
i guess i can't see why they'd care or why you both taking a little while somewhere by yourselves would even be an issue... idk i must know different kinds of people... but i'm also kinda just not the kinda person who necessarily cares either i got drunk and had sex with my s/o in our friend's bed while her and her ex were in the room with us... and it didn't even cross my mind about whether or not it'd be ok... but i suppose i also don't do that kinda thing sober...
>>5193432
>pretending to be a chaser
some of you are really something
>>5196538
Is it considered weird to not be okay with fucking in a room with other people?
I've had friends who have gotten offended when I've asked them to go into the bathroom or something when they're at my house and start openly having sex in the living room.
On the flipside, I used to fight with my ex for wanting to keep our bedroom stuff private.
So Idk if it's just a normal thing for friends to do and I'm too much of an autistic retard to realize it and be comfortable with it.
>>5198714
nope, while public sex is normalized in some small circles, it's much more normal for people having sex to do so in private - thus the phrase "get a room" for when some people's pda (or sexual tension in general) gets really heated
your friends might have expected you to not enter the living room until they were finished, since bathrooms are uncomfortable, but if they didn't like warn you ahead of time & weren't intoxicated that's pretty weird
>>5198714
if you all have your wits about you, it's pretty weird to just start randomly sexing in the same room as somebody else. it's always seemed normal-ish late at night when people are somewhat drunk, though. not sure why
>>5198714
honestly i doubt i'd give a shit, but i've also never had it happen the other way around... when someone in a group of my friends ends up doing some shit like that (or obviously takes it to the bathroom etc) it's probably me with my s/o... we're those friends...but i don't think it's weird for someone to not be cool with it, or ask the people fucking to take it elsewhere... i'd totally get it if someone said something, but sometimes you're wasted and shit happens... i try to be discreet though at least, and i enjoy the whole struggle to keep quiet either when i have to or someone else does... it's a fun game...
with my friend i just pretended i was too drunk to remember that shit the next day... considering not long after i ended up puking in her shower (i cleaned it up at least), and could barely stand or walk it sounded believable enough even though i remembered everything...
>>5198714
No. If two people were trying to fuck in my house, I'd tell them to go...somewhere else.
Then again, I'd probably be liable to fuck someone in some place that wasn't one of homes.
Does anybody like old movies? What are your favorites?
Found myself watching M for the jillionth time, because dat Lorre.
So uh, I had sex with my front hole and I'm bleeding a bit. On a scale of 1-10 how phucked am I?
You're all women!
>>5200030
I like movies
>>5200169
that's nice, dear
>>5200169
woooaaaaahhhh
i finally.....got laid after quitting sex and dating for like 6 months to deal with my transition
>inb4 normie reeeeeeeeeeeee.jpg
I feel like I lost my virginity again, since this has been the first time I have hooked up with someone since I started transitioning
Hi, cis male with low sexual drive here, I'm going to get my blood tested today to see if I have a t-deficency. The last time my physician didn't even know most of the things to check for, so I've done some research myself. However I want to have as much background as possible before going in so I was wondering if you guys knew the names of what they check the list.
So far I know to tell her to check the SHBG, LH and FSH. Anything else?
>>5200731
E2 as well, have you checked your VitD/haematinics?
>>5200030
i like silent movies... especially the cabinet of doctor caligari... though i did love how dated/racist broken blossoms was, that movie was funny as hell...
>>5200740
No I haven't, thanks man. Adding that to my list.
>>5191975
Same here. I can't delude myself into thinking my clit is a dick, I just can't.
>>5201655
I don't know if it makes it even weirder and more confusing but I can joke about it without it being a problem("step off my dick", "suck my dick" etc) but I just can't pretendfantasy, sorry.
>>5201685
Nah, I get you. I do that as well in the joking sense when I tell my friends to suck my dick but when it comes down to the bedroom I just can't in all seriousness call it a dick.
>>5201685
>step off my dick
did you drop your packer or something bud
So I hear testosterone is a he'll of a drug. Would it make just about any girl pass after a couple years on it? What if she's like 35 or 40? Will she still get a deep voice and stuff?
>>5202498
>not doing your own basic Googling
>implying anyone here on T is over 25 anyway
>>5202660
First hand experiences are better, most things on Google tend to be sugar coated
>>5202498
If you're on T for more than three years, you will always pass. Always. The changes are intense and irreversible without huge amounts of surgical intervention, so be sure it's what you want.
A fun thing happened today.
>pre T
>stealth mode as a faggy andro boy
>housemate calls me and other guy into room
>she has been on hol for a wk
>during this wk I had my period (once every 2/3 months, only lived with her 5 months)
>I hadn't changed the trash when she got back (new meds making me a forgetful lil shit)
>have my own stash of tampons etc in my room
>she asks if one of our friends used her tampons and is upset
This gave her the perfect opportunity to ask if I'm trans cus I was sure she always wanted to or had guessed but either she is stupid as fuck or I pass better than I expected. Or she was using the cover of talking to us both as a way for her, in her head, to secretly question me.
Regardless, no way was I saying to her "those are mine, we use the same brand" and producing boxes from my room so I told her I would let my (imaginary) friend know.
Literally cannot wait for periods to end but thought this was a little bit amusing, if not utterly terrifying.
>>5203033
what happened?
>ayyyyyyyyden
>kaiden
>jaiden
>skylar
>riley
>elijah
>elliot
>oliver
every fucking time
>>5204283
You forgot Blake.
Is it wrong if I prefer transguys over cisguys?
>>5188656
>until i can find a dealer
just ask the bartender
>>5204337
Why do you prefer them?
>>5204353
They're cuter and vaginas are more convenient and cleaner than anuses.
>>5204283
I like Elliot.
My friend basically gave me the name Thomas. So I go with that.
>>5204283
I only know of that one Oliver guy and he's hot as fuck so I don't care about that one.
>>5204283
my name's andy...
>>5204283
I almost went with a cringey name so I'm thankful that I'm now just Ryan.
So, the inevitable finally happened.
I started T and got the dreaded crotch rub in the pants. Which meant I had to get through the whole work day getting kind of turned on and then getting all weird because I could not do anything about it.
I think (tell me if I am wrong) a quick masturbation break could help it a bit.
The secondary problem is that it takes me ages to actually get off, so it is not like I can sneak off on my lunch break and take care of business.
Is there such a thing as advice for getting that done quickly? Or am I doomed?
>>5205680
I can get off super quick but that was with practice since I grew up in a household of anywhere from 8-13 people. I needed those skills to survive.
I have no advice since everyone masturbates differently. You're just going to have to practice and see what works for you.
>>5185352
why do ftms care about virginity, how does it matter
regardless you had PIV sex, so you aren't virgin
>>5187600
Never have, never will. I'm a little baffled by people who are comfortable enough to, but to each their own.
>>5187995
woah what? how did you get scar tissue there?
>>5205718
Eh. Why do gold star lesbians care? Why does anyone, of any gender or sexuality, care? Why celebrate anniversaries? WHy continue to live when all your accomplishments and failures, and those of the rest of humanity, will be forgotten in the inevitable heat death of the universe?
It is a milestone, whether it matters in the long run or not.
>>5190527
no this is just dysphoria
>>5205727
A 'ton of scar tissue' there implies a history of rape/sexual assault, surgery or giving birth.
>>5200169
whatever, that word means nothing anymore
>>5205735
if you don't know you dont know jeeze
Ok people I have a legit question that I can't seem to find a solid answer to. I must say I'm not entirely in MtF transition however I do cross dress some for my partner and may take hormones in the future, but I think this is the best place for this question, and if it isn't can someone please direct me to the proper place? My question is what can I do to make my butthole appear more feminine? I'm not talking about the whole butt just the skin around the hole. It's all saggy and wrinkly and man-like and I want it to be more cute and feminine. Any suggestions?
>>5205869
>/ftmgen/
>partial MtF butthole feminization edition
>>5205869
A) Wrong general, you are looking for...
Really most other things. MtF, femme gen, gay gen. Literally anything.
B) We are talking about a literal asshole here. There is nothing cute about it. It is saggy and wrinkly because well-used assholes look saggy and wrinkly. You can want a "cuter" one, but the "feminine" comments has some pretty off connotations. Like, do you expect womens' butt holes look any cuter naturally?
You are probably thinking about the assholes seen in porn, which are generally waxed and bleached.
>>5200030
I used to like old movies, but now I'm working as digital film reconstructor, so unless they are cleared watching them reminds me of my work.
Do I pass?
>>5203686
... Are you taking the piss? I know that my post was a tad bloggy but I had to tell /someone/ and I'm stealth most places.
>>5206073
yes
>>5206073
post it again
>>5205738
oh okay, cool
well, not cool, dysphoria sucks, but y'know
I've been on T for 2 years, pass 100% of the time with a full fucking beard, advertised myself as trans from the beginning and my fuck buddy said he thought of me as a girl. What the flying fuck.
>>5209900
Ehh you can't really change what people think and you need to decide whether it's worth it or not. Not everything will 100% go your way.
I met up with a dude who we were suppose to hookup and be casual but it never came to that. I believe he thinks of me as a women(but i dare not ask, i honestly prefer not to know) but we are good friends, and I am a good support for him. He's called me a 'she' once which honestly bothered me(6 years on t, post top surgery, 100% passing for years, beard and all)but he corrected himself, and fuck it. I think he's a good friend, I like to have him around, he's nice to talk too, and I like to help him. The pros just outweigh the cons for me, even if I feel uncomfortable sometimes. I still feel he makes the effort and values me as a friend. It hurts, but it really boils down to whether or not you think its worth the effort to keep them around even if you are sacrificing some of your own feelings.
That being said, I don't see other ftms as cis-penised men either. I don't see them as women at all, but they are just 'men with vaginas' to me.
>>5209900
>Implying that bothers you as much as you think it does
>Implying the average FtM cares what Chad/Jamal thinks of them as they spend all night giving them the 8x6 thundercock till they can barely form coherent thoughts
>Implying you don't drip and throb at the thought of being a little bitch who's only fit for fucking the shit out of and getting beer from the fridge
>>5210163
u lost robot?
these memes are stale
>>5209900
when he says girl he literally just means female. that's what "girl" and "woman" mean to people not drinking the neoliberal kool-aid. or you just act very much like a girl lol
>>5210691
well, okay, that's a valid risk (though relatively rare, and the increased size doesn't last once you quit it (but of course some people won't have access to t for a long time, so it won't feel as temporary to them)). but some of the stuff people will say here about birth control is pure pseudoscience. people have claimed it's universally harmful to women's bodies, and i even was given a link here to a quack book about big pharma's birth control conspiracy, which had to be fucking crowdfunded in order to get published, as if it "proved" my argument wrong.
>>5210758
>rare
>have two sisters
>everyone else i've known have increased in breast size when they went on birth control
IDK whats up with birth control since I've never been on it but pretty much everyone I've ever known who went on it got fatter. I don't think its solely in breast size or anything but damn, even my one, very active and athletic sister got a lil something extra in her bust and ass(though her stomach is still ripped).
>>5210806
oh, general weight gain is a common symptom. it's increased breast size beyond that that's rare, as far as i know.
>>5210260
>when he says girl he literally just means female. that's what "girl" and "woman"
No shit.
>'strap on' backwards is 'no parts'
Huh.
>>5211872
someone must've been really bored to notice that...
>>5211872
dog food lid backwards is dildo of god
>>5204283
>tfw I almost picked Elliott
The weird thing is, that was long before tumblr was popular, and I didn't know anything about the FTM community. Funny how that happens.
>>5210691
>Alex
>Micheal
>Ryan
But those are common names for cis dudes. I feel like that's kind of unfair.
>can't afford to buy/play vidya
>co-workers calling in 'sick' to play Fallout
>boss finds out
>everyone gets warning
>tfw actually sick and can't call out
I hate being sick and poor this sucks ;-;
I posted this thread >>5214625
but no one replied so I'm gonna try again here.
I'm MtF trans and I mean, yeah, ok, durrrr, it's just like, the opposite. But please tell me, FtMs, how you feel about your body, how you feel about masculinity, and how you feel about like...I dunno, cis men and how you relate to them. What is your ideal body and ideal male presentation like? What kind of partner are you interested in? I'm really curious.
So I'm pretty confused with myself here
I guess I mostly want to identify as a male (kinda in the closet right now so it's all wishful thinking) but at the same time, I can't see myself as a super manly guy but more of a sliiightly feminine/boyish guy.
I like the thought of being mostly the same (sorta androgynous, boyish asian) just minus all the lady parts. I'm really turned off to the idea of any vaginal penetrative sex but I'm totally into anal stuff
For this reason, I don't plan on transitioning/taking any hrt
Am I just some fetishist tomboy, who knows
>>5215156
I'll post in your thread.
Is Eden a qt boy name?
>>5216575
2bh I would say it's more of a grilsname.
>>5216575
Girly name, also too special snowflake.
>>5216657
That doesn't stop it being a girls name or special snowflake...
>>5216657
So?
That doesn't change the fact I've only ever heard of girls called Eden.
>>5215583
being a transguy and being really masculine aren't the same... i'm not particularly masculine, but that doesn't mean much when i still experience dysphoria and medical treatment is a necessity...
there's a lot of variation in femininity and masculinity amongst cis people, it isn't surprising that it's the same for trans people too...
>>5216575
it's a girl's name...
>>5216657
just cuz a name comes from the bible doesn't mean much... there's a lot of names in the bible people don't regularly have... especially if you're using the names of places in the bible too... goliath, ezekiel, job, esau, habakkuk and so on... except well those are actually guy's names, unlike eden which is a girl's name... but still a name being biblical doesn't mean much
>>5216916
"Hi my name is Habakkuk but you can call me Haba for short!! I'm a pre-T trans dude and I am an awesome 5'2!!! Hahaha my gofundme is HaveaHeart4Haba and I rly need a binder plzzzz!!! Tucute4lyf!! All truscum need TO DIE!! ... ~DO NOT ASK ME ABOUT MY HAIR AND MAKEUP I AM MALE REGARDLESS UGHHHH CISSEXISM~ Oh and i love my boifriend Eden we have been 2getha for 2 months now and they (YES THEY) totally get me!!! Hmu on my kik: Clairethelezza or alternatively you can follow me here on Tumblr: habakk-ukk!!"
>>5216987
kek
if only I'd have picked a biblical name, that could have been me ;_;
>>5217032
Honey, you pick whatever name you want.
>>5217040
I mean I'm obviously going to, but choosing your own name and having one given to you are completely different things.
>>5217046
so do you want me to smash your boipussi or not?
>>5217046
I'm lucky in that my name in utero was the name I connected with. My full name is special snowflake but I don't go by it and people don't ask for it unless it's a formality. It also means I can discern between cold callers etc and people who know me.
>>5217032
well... cain is biblical, but i mean... come on seriously?
all "special snowflake names" are names, but they're called that cuz they're usually extremely uncommon + well... the kinda people who tend to pick them...
even with shit like flower names... sure there's rose, daisy, lily, jasmine... or shit even dahlia... but you know there's also shit like forsythia, gladiolus, wisteria etc
so really you're not making any valid points...
at any rate if you ask people what they think and only get answers you don't like... well... that's not anyone's fault but yours... do what you want though, it's gonna be your name...
>>5216991
it's not too late to change it again...
>>5217073
M-Maybe
>>5217032
>>5217122
+ there's a difference between a colour being called something and a person having the same name... like i knew this chick who thought her cousin was retarded for naming her son "turquoise" cuz well that's just not a fucking name... whereas violet (which is also a flower so i guess it works with both examples) is actually a name (though it's a girl's name you should probably avoid using it)
>>5217279
Which boypussy are we talking about before I bend over?
>>5217326
Actual boipussi.
Unless you want it in the regular pussy?
Hey guys, what do you think about all these pre t ftms with yaoi fetishes? There seems to be a lot of them lately, (preferably on tumblr.)
>>5217372
They strike me as the ftm equivilant of pic related.
>>5217372
Some of them are legit, but many probably aren't and will certainly regret if they transition. I read yaoi too before I transitioned, as well as hentai and bara, and I still read all of them. Sometimes I think about if I would not have transitioned if I didn't find that kinky japanese stuff pretty young and had growed up more normal, but then again I am pretty happy about my life now and I used to hate myself before transitioning so who knows. Maybe I would be ok living as a girl if I didn't ever transition, can't really know, but I would never detransition at this point.
>>5217554
W-What does that even mean
>>5217588
Ugly nonpassing people hooking up with to fullfill their homosexual fantasies about the opposite gender, only to realize the other person is another ugly nonpassing person.
>>5217604
Why the Taylor Swift, though?
>>5217372
honestly? i don't care what other people like or are into... i don't think it necessarily reflects on them as a person, or means anything about their gender identity or medical conditions...
>>5217372
What does yaoi count as again? I've always watched gay porn and I like western art of gay shit too. I only date girls though. I like how guys look but that's how far any attraction of mine towards them goes.
But then you have people like some chick I know who is fat as shit, dresses 'pastel goth' in skimpy clothing and constantly calling herself a fairy boy/kawaii(but i dont even think she likes anime and japanese shit), in a relationship with another transperson, wears tons of makeup, long dyed hair, etc and then is constantly ranting about the transphobia she experiences.
Does anyone else feel weirdly kinda nostalgically sad that the moment you finally pass, you will no longer be included in lady stuff?
Not that I want to do feminine shit, it's just- there's a certain kind of bond in being one of the few female bodied people trapped in a largely male environment, even if it boils down to a mutual eyeroll and a 'here we go with THIS shit again.'
>>5218081
Fetishist scum get out. Trutrans only.
If the girls all know then surely you can do it anyway?
>>5218089
Yeah, it's nonsensical, I just get included in so few groups that the thought of losing any point of connection with other humans is enough to give me pause. So far I still look annoyingly girly and yeah, I'm not out of the 'club' yet.
Not feeling regret, though, jesus fuck I hope my chin hair comes in faster.
>>5218081
No, the only thing I miss is purely aesthetic. I liked the more choices in clothing and clothing that actually fit me.
>>5218081
This is why taking testosterone is retarded
Why not just get breast reduction and dress like a boy
Afufufufu
>>5218194
But then I will never be the perfect hairy bara, uke twinky shit get out
>>5218216
I-I'm not a twinky shit! I'll rough you up you little boy!
>>5218010
What the fuck is a furry boy? Is that some tumblr shit?
>>5218081
Never really been 'one of the girls', so it's not a thing for me - I've had a mix of boy and girl friends throughout my life.
I sometimes miss being able to buy cutesy shite and not get weird looks, but I've never known anything like a 'sisterhood'.
>>5218100
Eh, they shouldn't close you out 2bh.
If they do, they're terrible people anyway and you can do better.
>>5218258
I said 'fairy' boy. It has to do something to do with the fashion fairykei, which is wearing shit like pic related. She also likes lolita and whatever cutesy japanese fashion.
I used to cosplay so I know more than I'd like too about all this. So its mostly /cgl/ stuff but I'm pretty sure she just likes it because its all pastels and whatnot.
I used to talk to her and like her but ever since her tumblr and 'imma reel boi' crap, I just sit back and watch.
>>5218430
>Autocorrect changes 'fairy' to 'furry'.
Apple is on some shit.
And fuck sitting back and watching, post caps here for the entertainment of faggots with nothing better to do. Not that I've nothing better to do or anything.
>>5218499
I'll shittalk all I want but caps/photos would out me and as much as I'm an ass, I'm not yet enough of an asshole to cap their private stuff and post photos. She has a hardcore filter and I'm surprised I made it.
If you search 'ftm' on tumblr I'm sure you'll find exactly the same shit I see. Or shit like genderfluid, demiboy/demigirl, etc.
>>5218081
No, I long for the day when I finally get odd looks when I use the girl's restroom, or when people stop calling me ma'am. I'm sick of being treated like a woman. If you like being treated like a chick so much, why are you transitioning?
>>5218563
Oh no, anon I'm not falling for that again - last time I looked in the ftm tag on tumblr all I got was a shitload of cum-filled boipussy.
...Fuck it, I'm just drunk enough to not care. I'm going in. Will report back if the porn is too much.
>>5218638
IT TOOK TEN SECONDS.
WHY IS EVERYONE ON TUMBLR SUCH A FUCKING WHORE.
>>5217372
most of them will grow out of it, and just end up as lippy sjw-omyn with short brightly coloured hair.
>>5218081
>a certain kind of bond in being one of the few female bodied people trapped in a largely male environment, even if it boils down to a mutual eyeroll and a 'here we go with THIS shit again.'
wth you talking about? there's no magical bond you have with someone just because you both happen to have a pussy. not like i would want any of my co-workers to know in the first place
>>5218651
>whores
you're acting like it's a bad thing. okay, maybe having too much jerk-off material to choose from IS a bad thing
>>5218760
>Jerk off material
>Anyone on tumblr
U wot m8? Am I just picky?
Or am I a filthy transphobe because I wouldn't bang anyone I'm seeing on there?
>>5218814
>Am I just picky?
you're insane, considering the VAST amount of porn and qts on tumblr. granted a lot of them are SJW scum, but who's reading their text posts right?
>>5218836
I'll just make the assumption that hentai and 2D ruined me, real people can be cute, but when it comes to porn it's either fucking hilarious or fucking disgusting.
Oh shit. Am I one of those specials like on tumblr? Non3Dpdsexual?
>>5218878
>not finding RL people attractive
m8 have you even popped your cherry yet?
>>5217802
Good question, Im not sure. I dont have the original without her.
quickly scurries under a shelter from all the war in this gen. s-since there's a lot of talk about names, what do y'all think about the name logan?
I've always been real big on it and I want to use it
>>5219294
If you want to use it then use it.
But we haven't been hating on names, just pointing out that they're snowflakey or, in the case of Eden, girl names. We're not being critical because we're dicks, we're offering pointers on how not to sound like a tranny/tumblrite/sjw/whatever
>>5218081
can't miss what i've never had... never did that kinda shit with my chick friends, actually even without saying anything i've had them mention their girl shit and just be like "i gotta go do girl stuff see you later"
i'm not even 100% sure what it is chicks do when they say that...
>>5219294
what war? you must be really fucking sensitive if that was a big deal to you... all that name makes me think of is x-men... if you like it use it
>>5219056
Yeah, I've had a couple boyfriends, had sex with one guy (was alright, a bit shit), and with my current girlfriend (infinitely better). But they're exceptions really, I guess if I ever break up with gf and get involved with someone else I'll have sex with them.
It's weird, probably just a low sex drive, really.
>>5219964
maybe you just jerk it to 2D porn too much? 2D or not watching a lot of that shit can really ruin sex with actual humans for ya
eden guy... something funny as shit happened today, thought you'd appreciate it...
i told my s/o about the name and we agreed it sounded like a chick name and whatnot (he said he could see it being unisex, but not good for a guy), but whatever... we were going through some of our old shit, and there was a print of this painting he got from his grandma's house (she was a crazy hoarder and shit... we cleaned her house when she died)
it was signed eden...
looked it up and the artist was some dude... so my bad... that's funny as hell though
(pic related here's the pic... ignore my hand, winter's coming and scrubbing my hands raw is just one of the many shitty things that happens when it's cold out)
>>5221311
+ signature...
>be me
>hate every fucking name i choose after a while
>marathon the fuck out of iasip
>the name "charlie" really sticks with me
>i don't want to be that faggot who takes a name off of a tv show again because i did that with my last few names (all normal names of course i'm not that much of a snowflake)
>>5219294
Logan makes me think of Wolverine from X-Men. If you like it, use it dude,
Are "tumblr yaoi fujoishi" really the bitter detransitioners everyone says shouldn't transition?
Every hardcore detransition poster I've seen was a butch lesbian.
I haven't seen any tumblr kids like, actually go on T or live as male. it just seems most go to a nonbinary/queer identity and don't really do anything about it other than write angry blog posts
>>5221881
I wouldn't call them detransitioners in the first place since they didn't transition.
The only detransitioner I've met is butch. She was on T for like, 10 years way before tumblr and she just later figured out her fucked up childhood made shit confusing for her. She's still cool to me and she didn't try to make it anyone else's problem.
I think the most problem people have with detransitioners is that because they found out they weren't really trans and it was a phase to them, is that they seem to also assume thats what everyone else is also doing. Reminds me of one dude who became a hon(wife left him, his kids told him they rather have had him died, all the social stigma of being an unpassing hon, etc), and then had to detransition+get surgery to become a man again and blamed everyone else.
>>5221881
Yeah, same here. Every single bitter detransitioner I've seen has been a butch as fuck dyke who confused gender roles with identity.
>>5221347
be charlie! that's a cute name.
>>5221900
I'm beginning to think that this is the path I'm headed down.
I'm scared.
I can't figure out whether being a man or a woman would be more survivable. I get super confused and upset because I just don't know what I am, and since I'm out it would be hard to take back anyways but mostly I can't imagine a future where I'm happy regardless of transition or not. Whenever I think about it too long I start thinking it's gonna end in sudoku either way.
>>5221347
Charlie is a fine name? Charles or Charlie? I generally prefer massively to have a full first name rather than a nickname as a first name. I like the name Charlie, but I'm English and it's a normal name. I went to school with a few male and female Charlies.
>>5221881
Idgi really bc I liked yaoi as a kid, as a teen, and can appreciate it now. I've never "got off" to it though bc I've never been into that, esp as I only began wanking at 19.
>>5218430
>>5222159
I know the feel, bro. I'm either delusional or in denial. I'd hate to do something I regret but I worry I'd miss a chance to avoid living a miserable life. Though I feel like living as male would make me feel strong and in control, it's weird.
>>5222159
Can't you go see a therapist?
