«A documentary about trans women and the men who love them called Sex Diaries: Trans Lovers aired on the U.K.’s Channel 4 last night. It was a regularly fascinating glimpse into a subject that’s still so taboo, host/director Charlie Russell reported early on that finding men to talk about their relationships with trans women wasn’t easy.
“Is this a new kind of relationship, one that is neither gay, straight, or bi, but perhaps something entirely different instead?”»
you can watch it here:
>http://www.channel4.com/programmes/sex-diaries/on-demand/60441-003
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>>5073721
also the video doesn't play for me. if anyone has another link that'd be great.
>>5073721
“Is this a new kind of relationship, one that is neither gay, straight, or bi, but perhaps something entirely different instead?”
if the sex was shitty:
"No baby, you're not gay. Not yet anyways, this is only the first step"
>>5073723
found a torrent
>https://kat.cr/sex-diaries-trans-lovers-720p-x264-hdtv-mvgroup-t11405232.html
>>5073721
There's a thread about it already...
And, that episode is terrible.
Only one of the "trans women" pass, and I'm not sure if the trans woman that passes even is trans (seem REALLY fucked up... Goes by male name, wants to be introduced as a tranny, because that's her "sexuality"... Maybe she's a top?).
All the men are creeps.
Then the line they go by
>“Is this a new kind of relationship, one that is neither gay, straight, or bi, but perhaps something entirely different instead?”»
Is completely transphobic.
Absolutely terrible, and doesn't belong in todays time, this is a documentary that could've been fitting in 10-20 years ago.
>>5073721
>Geri, Faye, Lorenna, Mark, Andy and Paige
The actual passable and pretty one, "Faye" didn't even show up on the episode... Maybe she asked to look at the other participants, and decided that she did not want to be part of a freakshow.
Or maybe Faye is "Charlie Russell"? I don't know, I skipped the "make over" part.
>>5073812
That one on the right.
...John Flynt, is that you??
None of these men are relationship material.
>One is a clear chaser who has literally given up on bio-females because he's a loser.
>Another is trapped in a loveless marriage and is just glad to have a scapegoat to escape it, trans or not.
>Last has that swinger vibe, obviously a sex thing even if he does love his partner.
Is this what trans girls actually have to put up with? It's horrendous.
>>5073977
yeah those three pretty much flawlessly sum up the dating pool for trans girls
>>5073981
wait shit I forgot there's one they missed; the raging misogynist who hates women and chases trans girls because he thinks we're "bros" but with boobs
>>5073997
Even on normal dating sites if you're open about being trans all you get is these guys, normal dudes won't even consider it. Real life dating is better, just getting approached by guys who don't know and telling them or vanishing after determining whether or not they're likely to beat you to death. But as you can imagine, that's dangerous. It's a no win scenario
>>5073992
nobody's complaining about not getting perfection, they're complaining about being consistently approached by human garbage.
>>5074007
Well, not everyone passes flawlessly... Are there no bi guys who aren't total creeps?
>>5074018
there are, but with them you're competing with all the cis males and females around, and there's a hell of a lot more of them to choose from
>>5073992
No one talked about entitlement, but if you had those men to chose to date I bet you'd be pissed. Everyone has issues with dating circles, just seems particularly extreme for trans women in that 'documentary'
>>5073997
Yeah the lack of men coming forward could easily be a factor, why would you need to go on TV and declare your partner a trans woman if you truly viewed her as a woman in the first place.
>>5074043
Well no... If he wants a trans woman, I'm not competing against cis women and cis men...
If he's just looking for whoever, then yeah, I can see how that'd be difficult.
Fuuuuuuck... I guess I just gotta prepare to be alone for forever.
>>5073812
They're hideous. Why are we being represented by hons?
>>5074899
Let's be honest for a while: most of trans women look like men with boobs. The internet brings a delusional idea of transexual people.
>>5074899
Faye looks pretty good.
If you think she's ugly, then you have way too high standards.
>>5073986
Are you talking about the one who married?
>>5074007
>nobody's complaining about not getting perfection, they're complaining about being consistently approached by human garbage
Well, now they know what it really feels like to be a woman :P
>>5073776
>Only one of the "trans women" pass, and I'm not sure if the trans woman that passes even is trans (seem REALLY fucked up... Goes by male name, wants to be introduced as a tranny, because that's her "sexuality"... Maybe she's a top?).
Thai stuff going on
one think is Thais get weird nick names that are English and generally keep them
Thai Trans people are one of three
either Transgender,third gender or sort of both.
>>5076904
i think she might be pinoy but regardless it's the same situation and often in the Phillipines they like to keep the male names as respect to their parents who named them.
>>5073977
>>5073981
>>5073997
>>5074060
What makes trannies think they're such prize pigs?
They either
>Don't pass as women 100% of the time (No straight man wants to hear your man voice)
>Are on the autism spectrum
>Have terrible self esteem
>Are depressed or have suicidal tendencies
>Have incompatible genitals and the sex is awkward
>Have worked as prostitutes or have been in the porn industry
Or if they're not any of that, they're full blown insane. Not to mention there are no benefits to dating transwomen in either social or business fields.
Anything a transwoman gets and doesn't treat them openly like the freakshow they are should be considered a godsend.
>>5077436
>I have no standards, so everyone should have no standards
>Here! A strawman!
>>5073721
Were the trans "women" at least somewhat decent looking, or was it one of those agp taking crossdressing too far things?
>>5077436
This is why trannies tend to hate chasers. This attitude is drilled into their heads from day 1, so anyone that shows interest in them is immediately met with apprehension and resentment because they've internalized all the bullshit normies give them. Then their heads are even more fucked up because any chance at dignity is cut out right from under them by societal stigma, which in turn leads to abuse from parents and peers.
>inb4 muh victim complex
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>>5077442
>>I don't need to find someone compatible, everyone else should lower their standards to be with ME
Trannies confirmed for fedora.
>>5073721
I remember reading a bit about one guy being featured in that being upset that they mischaracterized him. He said they tried to push him to show his love for the dick, when he said he just thought trans girls were chill and wasn't in it for the d.
I don't know if that is true, but that makes me wary of the documentary.
Shit like
>“Is this a new kind of relationship, one that is neither gay, straight, or bi, but perhaps something entirely different instead?”
doesn't help.
>>5073776
>Absolutely terrible, and doesn't belong in todays time, this is a documentary that could've been fitting in 10-20 years ago
You sound upset, and no this is the reality of being trans. Most trans women don't pass and so of the ones that do act like gay men or are just really strange and the guys and girls interested in us are even weirder and ugly.
There is no beautiful side of being trans.
>>5074899
>Why are we being represented by hons?
Because the majority of mtfs don't pass dumbass. It's like some trans people are living in this bubble where they think there are so many trans girls that pass really well and are super stealth.
>>5077436
Pretty much this. I'm a trans woman and even I can agree that a lot of us act super entitled when in reality a lot of us look like complete shit or have a lot of mental problems.
I hate being trans so much...
>>5077752
>I remember reading a bit about one guy being featured in that being upset that they mischaracterized him.
not surprising this is what theses kind of docus do they want o shock people
>>5073721
>“Is this a new kind of relationship, one that is neither gay, straight, or bi, but perhaps something entirely different instead?”
That's fucking stupid.
>>5077779
Get basic reading comprehension.
Starting a "documentary" on a trasnphobic tone, is something that belongs to 10-20 years ago.
>>5077752
If thats the guy who's married in the doc, no. He knew the words coming out of his mouth, he quite clearly went on about dick, tbh he came across as super creepy and a fetishist.
>>5078467
I think anon means Harlen.
>>5073721
>a man having sex with a man isn't gay anymore
Interesting
