>Links
• Informed Consent Providers:
https://itmb.co/r1uo5 (PDF)
• Makeup Tutorial: http://imgur.com/a/JO33K/
• MTF Info Dump: http://pastebin.com/36HC6ZmT
• Size charts: http://www.americanapparel.net/sizi http://www.nationalworkwear.com/siz
• Transition timelines: http://imgur.com/a/qWpxv
• Voice Training: http://pastebin.com/dgipdsge
• Articles, Studies and General information about Questioning, Transitioning and other stuff: http://pastebin.com/CyW1dXV8
• Useful links about/for transgender people: http://pastebin.com/h1vLPxyV
• Transgender FAQ: http://pastebin.com/8QbKyShU
• Am I trans/trans help threads archive: http://pastebin.com/CPzj0xv9
• Basic Trans Information: http://ai.eecs.umich.edu/people/conway/TS/TS.html
• Hormones, and so much more: http://www.transgendercare.com/
• For your doctor: http://transhealth.ucsf.edu/
>Where we are:
#transbians on Rizon
TC /translez
>/tlg/ F.A.Q.
1. What is a transbian/trans-lesbian? → MTF transsexuals who are also lesbians
2. Isn't that just a straight guy? → No, orientation is who you go to bed with, but gender identity is who you go to bed as.
3. Are bi trans girls, welcome here? → Yes but please the keep boy drama in MTF General please!
4. Are cis lesbians/bisexuals welcome? → Yes.
5. Do trans-lesbians use their penis when they are pre-op? → Some do, some don't.
old:
>>5042474
Why is mtfg so fucking bitter? All they do is bitch and put each other down.
>>5050368
Lets not bitch and put /mtfg/ down, regardless.
>>5050368
>all they do is bitch and put each other down
>mtfg is so bitter
Someone sounds bitter.
>>5050368
A lot of it is anons and two or three specific trips who go anon all the time and fuck up the place for attention (half of whom are cis males)
Yeah, that /pol/ topic was interesting, but nothing to do with trans issues.
>tfw low body temperature
I've been looking at thyroid issues for a bit this evening. They say if your average morning wakeup temperature is under 97.8 to seriously look at the thyroid for low output. Well, my mid day temperature, which is often higher than morning temperature, has been recorded from 97.3 down to 96.3. o.O Time to collect some actual morning temps.
>>5050415
>not bitter
>brings it up out of nowhere
Sounds like butthurt to me.
finally some time to post again, what did I miss ?
>>5050726
>what did I miss?
Politics.
>>5050845
sounds boring, but tbf we have an election on sunday and our rightwing nutjobs had 43% last week in another city so I'm kinda having enough of politics for now
>>5050502
>Yeah, that /pol/ topic was interesting
not really, if I'd want to talk/read about politics all the time I'd go somewhere else... there's enough negativity in my life already (and yeah I do engage in politics usually, but I'm happy there's places to talk about something else)
>>5049684
>Guess which symptoms I have.
probably almost all of them, just like me.
-_-
>>5050866
iktf, the discussions from another forum frighten me a bit even.
>>5050502
A friend of mine had an overactive thyroid, so they took half of it out. That's some like, victorian era medicine there. Just rag half the thing out, now it works half as much! Jeez.
So I'm properly starting my transition. Names are hard. Is Isobel too snowflakey or overly femme? I'm Scottish, so the spelling isn't unusual up here.
>>5051020
It's probably fine based on place/cultural origin.
>>5051020
>the spelling isn't unusual up here
Then I think you'll be alright.
>>5051020
I chose a name that nobody here can even properly pronounce, so... choose what you like.
damn MtFg really went down hill
TLg might be slow but still more pleasant to hang out ^^
>>5051012
did you read http://diepresse.com/home/politik/innenpolitik/390964/FPO_Homosexualitaet-ist-eine-Kultur-des-Todes- ?
Er kritisiert, dass im Zuge eines "social Re-Engineerings" Buben zu Mädchen gewandelt werden sollten.
gave me a good giggle
>>5051058
>damn MtFg really went down hill
yeah... the last... idk 10 threads were only drama, drama and more drama, idk what's going on lately.
also rofl
>>5050866
Well, vote against them...
>>5051012
I have two lists where I often talk politics on. One is dedicated to politics, and the other is general discussion between a bunch of college friends from my second time in college. Both lists are civil.
>>5051012
>almost all of them
lol All but the menstrual one.
97.0 this morning...
>>5051017
It's at least told what to do with hormones, not electrical signals like some glands are.
>>5050726
oh please, as if you didn't start the /pol/ thread
>>5051507
yeah no sorry I don't take my trip off
but hey you yourself admitted to starting shit as anon soooooo
>>5051517
oh please, like I'd miss an opportunity to make lalalily edition with a picture of chris chan, why would i waste a new thread on /pol/ shit?
>>5050726
My surgeon finally called me back. Gave me more names. Seems he's trying to go Desi/paki mafia type route on cost cutting. He also straight out suggested insurance fraud, haha.
>>5051624
Aannnddd forgot trip.
>>5051633
$4,300 for an orchi by Dr. McGinn at Papillon Center in PA. Travel & hotel costs would have to be added.
http://www.drchristinemcginn.com/services/srs/
Got myself circle lenses out of curiosity. Feels weird to see my whole face in the mirror without the glasses. When I'm wearing neither, I nearly have to stick my nose to the glass to do eye makeup. Can't see further than 30 centimeters. Beyond that, it's just a color blur. Actually, I probably should get laser to fix my myopia rather than getting any FFS. Oh, and making my teeth look a little less English should be a higher priority too, I guess.
>>5051881
Well, I'm trying to see if I can get the costs down. My surgeon is only charging me 700 for his services. He wants an OR, though, and the surgical center quoted me 9,800 to basically walk in the door.
4,300 is *well* above what cis patients with testicular cancer pay. They'd pay half of that out of pocket. SRS surgeons charge ridiculous money for orchiectomies for basically no reason other than they can and they assume trans people have money because of rich hons.
People always seem to assume we have money because we're trans. It's annoying.
>>5052199
Would it be cheaper to just develop testicular cancer and have them cut it off for that?
>>5052277
Too late. Tranny tax.
>>5051435
I would argue that you have very irregular menstrual cycles . . . been skipping for a while now, right?
My birthday has made it here at last. I have a sneaking suspicion that my friends are plotting something for me, but I have no idea what at this stage. And so begins the waiting game.
>>5052492
LOL Yeah you could say that. I did think of it, but is it? Endometriosis is the official diagnosis but it really isn't that. Not sure what is triggering the shedding, cramping, and PAIN from the patch on my colon wall. It should be static to diminishing in size under the influence of T, yet it cycles some. I never could get anybody to test E & P levels.
>>5052492
The waiting makes the whole thing scary... unless there's like 100% trust that they know you and wouldn't hurt you
>>5053030
Lol. No worries about hurting me. But it may well be something I am unused to and it may be weird for me. I just have no idea, I told them I love surprises, so we shall see.
>>5052884
Aww, that whole thing sounds incredibly scary to be going through. Particularly not knowing what it is exactly . . . I really hope you aren't in constant pain from that, and that it is readily treatable when they figure it out.
>>5053117
Best of luck!
>>5053127
Thanks! All I know is a general time something is happening, and nothing else. Let you know later what happens. Anticipation is probably building up the excitement higher than is warranted though, but that's fine!
>>5053117
I only get pain when it wants to shed. It basically is a patch of uterine wall taking place of part of the side wall of the colon. It is very near the end. They don't want to remove it because they think the main bundle of nerves for the lower colon and rectum may go though it. I'll know a bit more after I add progesterone to my meds which hopefully will be next week..
>>5053200
I've been sort of wondering about progesterone myself a bit. I've heard alot of girls using it, but at very different intervals for starting, and some not at all. I suppose I should ask my doctor about it next visit, but that is 5 months away.
>>5053215
Honestly, the only effect I've noticed after progesterone was added was that my mood swings were smoothed out... Good thing because they often were dramatic...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nk8-MqnHlw
>>5053215
I've usually heard it should be started somewhere after 1 year on E. Natal girls don't produce progesterone until they start ovulating which is well after the 1 year point. it is also important for the formation of some of the structures in the breast.
>>5054960
Well, my breasts are ridiculously small, but my time on neuroleptics has shown me they're 100% functional. Leaking milk in my clothes and the constant ache wasn't exactly fun.
ded and I'm bored
also
>tfw 3 months post op as of yesterday
time flies yo :0
>>5055601
So hows it looking down under?
>>5055613
like a normal vag
>>5055614
cool
>>5055618
yeah was pretty surprised how good it looked pretty much from the start
>>5055621
Makes me a bit jelly though, local srs surgeons aren't that bad but its not near authentic looking.
Better than nothing at least.
>>5055601
>tfw still waiting for a confirmation of the date
GDI
MtFg is easier b8ed than most clg posters
lmao
>>5055621
why do you keep perpetuating this myth?
>>5055889
Why do you keep making comments on things you know nothing about?
>>5055788
>admitting you're just here to bait people
we know larry
ded
>>5055788
Hey lily.. I came on your pic that one time. Not that I would have any chance with you but.. does trans lesbian mean you are a girl who would only date girls? you would never ever date a guy? and are not interested in guys? you are really beautiful obviously just was curious.
>>5060577
>does trans lesbian mean you are a girl who would only date girls?
correct.
>>5060597
are you lily? you would never date a guy ever in your life?
anyway hope you find that girl. she will be lucky as fuck
>>5060642
im sure you probably already have anyway.. but yeah im gonna go. see you beautifullll
>>5060642
No I'm not. I'm pretty sure Lily has identified as lesbian with no feelings for men.
>>5060668
of course, she's an agp freak
good evening grills
what's everyone up to ?
>>5060577
no sorry I have a gf and I'm not interested in guys
thanks tho
>>5060906
Laughing my ass off at this.
>>5060967
lol what ?
>>5060980
They stuff 1000 people in a room with a max capacity of ~440, get people out because there's too many in there at once, no second class sometime later that day because lazy mathematician, only a lifestream that sometimes doesn't work. This time it was the third lesson already where it did not work for the first 20 minutes and for the rest only audio was there, they didn't even manage to upload that one for later viewing. The pinnacle of all this however is that engineering students basically have to learn in just one class what mathematic students learn in two while also having to study mechanics and a lot of other shit. It's a fucking mess. The chemistry professors somehow manage to upload all their lessons + not throwing people out of the room. For an "international" university that wants to compete with the MIT and whatnot that's just fucking pathetic.
>>5060998
pretty much 0815 tho
it's every year the case that livestreams don't work the first few weeks
>>5061010
It seems to be only mathematicians that can't handle it, for every other flooded class the methods they use to deal with it work from start to finish. Predictable, but slightly infuriating nonetheless.
>>5061034
not really
it's the same problem in a few other classes
>>5061034
>>5060998
Haven't they heard of predicting class enrollment, and limiting class enrollment to available classroom sizes?
>>5061052
No they just go hardcore and make +90% of people drop out by the end of their bachelor trough different methods.
In reality this means that in one or two weeks I'll have a cozy spot in every class and not having to rely on the shitty stream.
So, I was kidnapped and taken to a place with spicy Mexican cuisine, a cake, and a pie. Not as many crazy things happened as were anticipated, but it was still pretty nice.
On a different note . . . I have also had my first experience being directly hit on by a complete stranger. It was by a tall African-American man in a Whole Foods Market where we were getting some dinner. The encounter was a little awkward . . . but fortunately, my friends came along and saved me. Gonna have to figure out some responses, because I was so surprised I kinda freezed up a bit and my heart fluttered.
I mean, I kinda smiled and tried to go along with it a bit, but I am definitely not ready for those waters yet.
ded
>>5064215
>ded
that would be me
![7H1Yo8U[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/7Bw1N1q.png "7H1Yo8U[1].png")
Hey, I'm back !
How have you girls been ?
>>5060906
Not much, I'm just chillin' today.
What are you up to ?
>>5061116
What did he say
>>5064545
no
>>5064554
latin class in a few hours and hanging out with gf
>>5064568
Sounds nice.
Latin's hard tho. Too much declensions for my taste.
>>5064568
>no
emotionally yes.
>>5064561
Well, the exact encounter started with him almost bumping into me around a corner at the super market. He started to apologize, and then he took back his apology saying "Actually, I am not sorry to have run into you, because you never know." He said a few more things along that nature and then started to ask me for my number, but my friend called my name and I said "Sorry, gotta go!" I was way outta my league on that conversation type anyways, so I was glad for the escape route.
>>5064554
your ftm transition is going really great! :)
>>5064554
Morning rituals.
>Take temperature, 96.6F, and record it
>take levothyroxine pill
>check on cattle
>throw load of laundry I washed last night in dryer
>load washer with next load of laundry
>read news until an hour has passed since taking levothyroxine pill
>make breakfast
>take morning pill set
>eat breakfast
>hang up dry clothes
>read as much 4chan as I can during all that.
does anyone know if masturbating while on lupron causes an increase in testosterone?
i always feel worried once i finish.
>>5064554
Hottestgrillon4chan/8
>>5064215
Werent you sprung like 24 hours ago
>>5067280
shes nice but seriously Lily is the hottest grill on 4chan.
tfw you will never be able to sing along with a lot of the songs you listen to
i'm not dead
though i did experience a stupid amount of sexual harassment last weekend
it was not fun
anyway hi
>>5055614
How's sensation?
Also, heyo, I'm new around these parts.
>>506839
>I'm new around these parts.
Be prepared for drama, we're all going through puberty all over again and that means mood swings
>>5069307
that other one wasn't me but okay i will.. i just really like lily. alot.
![00000black-man-whispers-to-laughing-woman[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/BJB4F0b.jpg "00000black-man-whispers-to-laughing-woman[1].jpg")
>>5067771
>girl
I'm in love with my fwb but she doesn't want to commit to a relationship just yet. I keep having nightmares about her breaking it off with me.
Fuckin' hormones I swear.
>>5068331
hi hi *hugs* yeah, it sucks. I've remembered a bunch of patronizing incidents from when I was young. *shudders* Oh-well, I'll have to toughen up again.
>>5069525
I find Lily interesting, but I think I'd prefer sox or Lyn, but Lyn is married and sox is on the other side of the pond. What can I say, I like my women tall.
>>5069922
Welcome back to middle school, but with sex.
>>5069930
I think I've posted enough pictures to make sure no one here could fancy me out of imagination. I'm as ugly on the outside as I am on the inside. Still, one more. Just a booster shot...
You seem like a bunch of cool cats
Hi I'm Roz. I was out till late last night. Woke up and went to the gym for the first time after a couple weeks of being lazy. I put on my makeup today. Gonna take it all off in a couple hours for work. Hooray
>>5069930
>I find Lily interesting
I empathize with her yet at the same time I find her to be annoying and extremely immature. Anyway that room is a time sink and should be avoided.
>>5069949
You could try thinning your eyebrows from the bottom a bit more.
I've been reading huge amounts on thyroid issues, and this statement is seaming more and more true to me:
>According to the late clinician John R Lee, M.D., estrogen dominance is behind many cases of midlife hypothyroidism, in which there are inadequate levels of thyroid hormone. When estrogen is not properly counterbalanced with progesterone, Dr. Lee surmised, it can block the action of thyroid hormone, so that even when the thyroid is producing normal levels of the hormone, the hormone is rendered ineffective and the symptoms of hypothyroidism appear.
http://www.drnorthrup.com/thyroid-disease/
The interesting thing is estrogen dominance is the normal state for many transwomen taking estrogen without progesterone.
"Remember the first time we danced?" is what the txt said with a link to the audio of this song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkL7Fkigfn8
I'd forgotten about it. It was played just as we were sitting down after we had danced. She mouthed the words to me as the song played.
(on something totally different, this is Tula, Caroline Cossey pre transition. Same gal in the pics here >>5073519 and >>5071612)
Granddaughter txts me asking "how do I explain having four grandmas?"
>>5073731
Are you the third or the fourth?
>>5073750
Who knows... I was the sperm donor for a lesbian couple that were her mom's parents. Genetically three of us are related to her.
>>5073519
interesting... so should it get better with P?
>>5064554
you're the only passable mtf i've seen in a long time
>>5064554
cute
>>5073846
>I was the sperm donor for a lesbian couple that were her mom's parents. Genetically three of us are related to her.
Ahh that explains it.
Cute though that you have contact with her, was the lesbian couple friends of yours?
>>5074006
>>5074004
Haven't found anything on P and thyroid.
I found this today, and I need to study it more.
http://www.eje-online.org/content/155/1/11.long
EE estrogen, and cyproterone acetate for HRT increased thyroid hormone-binding globulin (TBG) by 100%, where transdermal 17b-estradiol didn't. They think a threshold effect maybe happening.
>>5074052
This couple was from the swingers group I was in years ago, but I never kept in contact with them. Their daughter that I fathered got into contact with me recently. This is from a pregnancy I didn't know about, but K knew about it at the time.
>you gonna get a haircut? they're gonna call you...miss!
>you don't want them to think you're a girl
>...or do you?
Hey, /tlg/!
I've been away forever and stuff but I just had to swing by to say I started HRT today! Ah! So relieved to be done fighting health insurance Bullshit. Anyway, I just wanted to say thanks for all your encouragement this year! You girls are awesome.
>>5080071
Congrats and good luck.
I'm sorry I faded out for awhile, hello again girls. I hope I haven't missed anything too much!
>>5080071
I'm happy for you CT, Congratulations!
>>5078094
ahaha
>my coworkers...
>>5080071
Grats!
I've entered into a new stage of transition. People are starting to forget I was ever a guy. I'm starting to get flirted with at work randomly instead of having to correct people on my gender that knew me before. I think this is a majorly positive change. It's certainly not boring!
What is with this stupid thing trannies do where they pretend to be animals, 99% of the trans girls i know are weeaboos and pretend to be "super kawaii kitty kat ^_^" or they're a furry or something
Am I the only trans girl who doesn't desperately wanna live out some harem anime
>>5081811
No you're not alone, they're just very vocal about it here because it's one of the few places they can share those thoughts without too much fear of ridicule.
>>5080241
Welcome back, WBT. How have you been?
>>5081811
>wanna live out some harem anime
That doesn't sound enjoyable at all. I'd much prefer living out a romantic anime with a happy ending myself. Harems can be fun but they seem like horrible situations to me since the girls generally don't like each other.
>>5081880
Thank you. Stressed and busy but several good things have happened, like progress with name change, a new hobby and other things.
>>5081896
What new hobby you got?
>>5081910
Sewing. I decided to pursue making my own halloween costume (SO not gonna be ready in time, ugh), and despite sucking horribly (at cutting straight and keeping my hems straight, or as a friend put it 'you're too gay to do things straight') I'm actually enjoying it. I'm learning a lot on how to use a Seam ripper, enjoy working with the sewing machine a friend let me borrow, and doing research on new patterns and am trying to get into making my own clothes.
So far I've made a pillow. Its an Atrocity but I'm stoked that I made it, and when I tear it apart for stuffing I'm hoping I can make a better one.
I'm about to go on a cruise and there's gonna be a halloween party. I'm a little scared cause this is the first time I'm going to be openly out & trans-y(since I don't pass yet and I'm tired of fucking waiting in this god damned claustrophobic closet) in a semi-public environment. Me and my mom are gonna have twins costumes.
>>5081931
>'you're too gay to do things straight'
lmao. What kind of costume are you planning on making?
>>5081962
I'm working on a Pokemon costume. A Gijinka I believe they're called. This one. A snorlax girl broken down into a top, a skirt, an apron, a hooded cowl, and two kimono-sleeves.
>>5081977
You have a son?
>>5081981
Yes, though I generally try not to go overly into details about him here. Cause y'know, 4chan.
>>5081985
biological one?
mazel tov
>>5081989
Mhm, thank you. It's hard especially as a single parent but I love him to pieces, even his flaws.
>>5082001
That's heart warming.
>>5082001
>son
should have used a condom
males are parasites, they only rape and steal and kill every living being on Earth tbqh
>>5082010
Thank you, I think so.
>>5082039
That's a horrible point of view. Men and women can be so many different types of people. Whatever or whoever he grows up to be, I only hope he ends up happy and kind, no matter what path he walks.
Hi /tlg/ it's been awhile. I started lurking back last week.
Things had been a bit more rough for me between me and my parents for awhile, and I suppose I didn't want to show that much vulnerability in the thread or something... so I mostly just talked to Milly when I needed it.
But things improved, so I've returned. Also only 1 month away now from a year on HRT.
>>5081811
>What is with this stupid thing trannies do where they pretend to be animals, 99% of the trans girls i know are weeaboos and pretend to be "super kawaii kitty kat ^_^" or they're a furry or something
>Am I the only trans girl who doesn't desperately wanna live out some harem anime
I am trans and pretty into anime and not interested in any of that so you're certainly not alone.
>>5082085
but it's tru
as soon as his dick gets hard, he will start listening to loud rap music and rape poor grandmas on their rachitic walk home because that's what men are born to do
Goodnight TLG
>>5082154
>he will start listening to loud rap music
Not while he lives in my home. I don't mind music, I'm pretty open minded, but foul-mouthed rap grates on me. He'll have to use headphones for that.
>>5082099
Always here when you need me. I'm glad things are getting better for you Karin, and congratulations on your anniversary.
>>5082169
sons are a disaster and if i had a womb i would abort them before they could spread out and multiply more just tbqh
>>5082169
Nice to see you posting again.
I may not post much this weekend.
>tfw would like to be going to a con this weekend
>tfw going to a family reunion and b-day party
>tfw I'll only know one person there
the things we do for those we love.
want 2 die tbh
>>5082169
>foul-mouthed rap
Why are you assuming all rap is foul-mouthed?
I sense a hint of racism in your post.
>>5082539
Not all rap is, some leans more towards sophomoric bad poetry. All rap I had the misfortune to hear was utter crap, one way or the other, though. And when it comes to the violent and chauvinist shit style, white rappers are most often than not the worst offenders, so I don't quite see the racism here.
do all epilators double as instruments of torture or is this one just a shit?
(remington ep-7010)
>>5082589
they are very painful [spoiler]4u[/spoiler]
I still have ingrown hairs from 10 months ago...
>>5082589
You get used to it. They're not painful to me, but I guess that's coming from using them for more than fifteen years...
>>5082667
tweeze them out jesus, better having a leg full of scabs for 5 days than infected ingrown hairs oh my god how can you stand it
>>5082779
if they could just be removed I would have removed them a long time ago
