How do you identify sub gays or closet mtfs in public? I need a list of things to look out for.
>>5591339
Look for *men* who just look off. HRT changes the texture and tone of the skin, usually lightening it.
If you're paying attention you'll know.
My skin is so weird after a few years on estrogen and progesterone. I look like a vampire.
Shaped brows, skincare, tight clothes can mean gay or trans.
Feminine faces
Shitty dress sense
Signs of autism
Your welcome.
>>5591442
>tfw I'm diagnosed with atypical autism
>tfw I'm leaning towards being a total sub that just want to get violated and debased by muscular men with nice cocks.
I've been cock obsessed ever since I can remember I can't fight this urge no more, I need to stop being such a prude and just get on my knees and start sucking and getting fucked.
Lives a bitch, I'm autistic AND I'm gay. Why is nature so gruel? She sure has a twisted sense of humor.
>>5591501
Yeah probably. Everyone knows.
wide-eyed
shy
skinny
long hair or a hair style that's well taken care of
always shaves
>>5591442
>Feminine faces
Masculine face when it comes to me.
>sign of autism
Like what?
>>5591513
>>5591507
everybody knows...
why contain it?
>>5591513
not sure about wide-eyed but i score 4/5 out of those and am straight.. though I feel I get a lot of thirsty looks from other suspiciously looking feminine men ^^ i take it as a compliment.
Just let your new daddy grab those soft hips and spread your cunny so he can breed you like you were built to be.
>>5591442
>gay sub
>I fit exactly in this definition
>tfw a bottom but 6' and ugly
>>5591442
>Shitty dress sense
n-n-nigga please
im a closet mtf and i take pride in how i dress, get complimented on it sometimes. i found a style that is JUST effeminate enough so that i come off as feminine, but not look like an autistic man playing in his little sisters closet.
>>5591513
this is all me tho
I dunno. I am 6'1'', but finally got a 6'7'' boyfriend who knows how to turn on my submissive side. That sounds materialistic, but I sincerely love him even without the sexy stuff. I just always took care of my skin & hair, wore as feminine clothes as I could get away with, & even make-up when I was confident/drunk enough. I can't speak for everyone, but I was so happy to be noticed & asked out (also becoming a kinky-sub, hehe).
>>5591513
>tfw im all of these except skinny
it cant be that obvious can it
>>5591850
>so happy to be noticed & asked out
Tell us how it happened, anon.
>>5591339
Why do you need to know?
>>5591513
>wide-eyed
>shy
>skinny
>long hair or a hair style that's well taken care of
>always shaves
Jokes on you faggot I've still got a little chub to lose.
>>5591339
why? so you could be an ass hole to them in public?
You identify them by seeing if they attempt to identify gays or mtf's in public.
>>5592188
[spoiler]I want to know what I can do to make it clear I want my boypussy rammed[/spoiler]
>>5591339
MtF's legs are closed more than a guy's, but less than a cis girl's. Their index finger is longer than the ring finger in most of them. If they don't visibly enjoy a comment about how manly they are. If they enjoy being treated like a girl in a way that isn't humiliating. The way they walk can be different from men. They get quiet when people talk about LGBT. They seem depressed.
>>5591850
Seconding >>5591957.
>>5592986
Can confirm, minus that finger voodoo.
>>5592986
closed? guys usually keep their legs as wide from each other as possible because of their bow legged structure
>>5591499
Just diagnosed possible aspie by therapist I was seeing for GD. I used to be act like one of the guys and make fun of trannies and autists.
Now I realize I am an autistic tranny all along. Be glad you can start jumping on cocks for the rest of your life. I wasted precious years of hrt.
>>5592986
All true except maybe that finger thing, mine are of equal length. But you did say most so whatever.
>>5591846
>tfw always end up looking like an autistic man playing in his little sisters closet so i threw all clothes that could be seen as feminine in the dumpster and now only wear shapeless guy clothes
it's for the best i guess
>>5592986
This is totally accurate.
>>5592986
>legs are closed
I got this drilled out of me in high school. "Anon, why do you sit with your legs closed like a girl?" Unconsciously eating like I was trying to avoid smearing my nonexistent lipstick, and having the angry girl glare reaction during arguments were some others.
>>5593118
wow your gay
>>5593118
Same but it came back as soon as I got out of school.
>>5592986
>but less than a cis girl's
because of benis? :D haha
>>5593118
anon that's super hot
>unconsciously behaving like a girl
>angry girl glares
>>5593305
>trans
aw, it was cuter if you were gay :(
>>5593410
sorry
>>5593414
>apologizes for being trans rather than gay
Fuck stop being cute.
>>5593564
Well I'll take a tranny if you don't want it.
>>5593768
America
>>5593978
Damn, that's too bad.
>>5592986
This hit way too close to home. You know us too well.
>>5593118
For me it was "Anon why can't you stand like a man?" among other things. I swear to God, I was so much of a trainwreck the girls in my class took pity on me, and were trying to teach me how to be a man. "Here, let me show you how it's done. You spread your legs like this. More. Put your hands in your back pockets. Straighten up, shoulders back. Nonono, not like that. That's better. Relax, you look like you have a giant stick up your ass. Okay, now ever so sliiightly tilt to the right. See, this is how men are supposed to stand"
Even the guys tried to help me in their own ways. How much of a failure does one have to be being a guy, for all this to happen? Anyway, I kinda ended up being an MTF.
My hips are kinda wide and they always rocked side to side when I walked. These were the main ones:
>haha look at anon he runs like a woman
>stand up straight and stop sticking your butt out anon you're not a girl
>don't move your arms so much when you walk anon you look gay
>>5591513
>Tfw all of this but chubby
kill me.
>>5591513
What does this "wide-eyed" refer to? A physical trait of having big eyes, or is it the usual figurative language of innocence?
>>5591846
Shiet, that dress sense it what I'm trying to go for.
>>5595515
Hormones change something around the eye area, making them look wider and more innocent. It's hard to describe exactly, but obvious if you look at before and after pictures. It doesn't seem to be related to a happier facial expression either.
>>5595572
I've heard this thrown around before but no one ever gives conclusive evidence, it sounds a lot like a hon's make believe wish
>>5595712
>hon's make believe wish
Not saying that the eyes are getting physically bigger. It's a fat distribution thing like plumper lips and puffier cheeks.
>>5595712
>women's eye area doesn't look different to men's eye area
uhhhh
this is such common knowledge I literally can't find a link where it's spelled out
You're either blind or retarded
>>5591850
>I am 6'1'', but finally got a 6'7'' boyfriend
Holy fucking shit.
>>5595712
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hormone_replacement_therapy_(male-to-female)#cite_note-65
>>5595561
i wear a lot of shirts like this. unmistakably a women's style, but doesnt look stupid on a male body (at least if youre thin enough)
also a lot of slim-fitting high-waisted sweatpantsy type pants cuz i live ma life cumfy af ya feel me
>>5595282
>>5592986
wow ouch
>>5591339
They lock eyes with you without provocation, a product of gaydar.
I work customer service at a service station. See about a hundred people a day. Most men avoid eye contact unless they're engaged by conversation. If you make it otherwise, they'll scurry away. However, at least once a day, an effeminate male "notices" me, we lock eyes and usually go about our business. Sometimes they'll switch on the friendly switch and every blue moon they'll flirt with me.
This happens with -every- male who carries stereotypical effeminate features, every time.
>>5591339
>How do you identify sub gays or closet mtfs in public?
Congrats on summing up so concisely why these two groups are essentially the same.
I'd rather say the MtFs are closet gays though.
Unless transbian, in which case there's the sub aspect without homosexuality.
>>5604042
feels kinda validating, actually.
Girls can help you identify them. At some point they will be complaining about boys with guys standing around, and they will say "all men are idiots, or jerks, or pervs or whatever, except anon, he's not like them". Then observe that guy.
>>5591513
Closet MtF and these all apply, damn
>>5592986
All apply except for the finger thing
>>5604457
100% that guy, especially when I was in high school and would get invited to girls night outs, sleepovers, and just had a dumb level of trust with girls. Didn't know I was MtF though
>>5595282
Similar things sort of happened to me but I just didn't care and would make jokes about how unmanly I was so people stopped caring too. In high school I was in a musical and there was this girl trio that I would always hang out with (always making jokes about becoming a member) and one time one of the girls was having trouble with a dance number which I ended up teaching to her. Afterwards she told me, "Anon you're better at acting like a girl than I am." and it still took me two more years to figure out I was trans.
Jesus, looking back it was probably obvious to everyone except me
>>5601639
What about dominant mtfs?
>>5604763
you mean men?
I need to know how to spot chasers. If you guys want us, make an effort to talk to us please.
>>5604853
THIS holy shit
stop looking at us and start talking to us ffs
>>5604853
hey bb, fuck my man ass i suck ya dik?
>>5604853
YESS this, i want to know how to tell chasers apart from other people, hopefully not by seeing him wearing a T shirt that says "I (heart) tranny dick" or something
>>5604853
>baby face
>sad eyes
>doesn't make eye contact
>overweight
>poor hygiene
>fedora
>tfw sub gay
>fit none of these descriptions
feels great
>>5604853
Not that I know how to identify chasers, but what types of chasers are you looking for? It might be helpful to determine what you need to look for if you know who you're looking for, right? I'm excluding guys who are not specifically looking for trans girls but wouldn't mind dating one.
>Closeted tranny type (personally a turn-off)
>Wants the dick in his ass type (turn-off, and probably overlaps with the closeted type)
>Only looking to fuck on the down-low and will never date you or acknowledge you in public type (apparently these sometimes become willing to hold a LTR with trans women after years according to https://broadly.vice.com/en_us/article/the-straight-men-who-have-sex-with-trans-women)
>Has a fetish for dominating a male so effeminate they became a girl (hot)
>Thinks a little feminine penis is cute type (pretty nice)
>"I'm n-not gay" repressed homo type (actually completely gay and will leave you for a man, should be pretty rare these days)
There might other types I'm not aware of.
>>5605049
>>"I'm n-not gay" repressed homo type (actually completely gay and will leave you for a man, should be pretty rare these days)
>"I'm n-not gay" repressed homo type (actually completely gay and will leave you for a man,
Not him but wat?
>>5605049
>>Wants the dick in his ass type (turn-off, and probably overlaps with the closeted type)
we get no love...
>>5605049
>>Closeted tranny type (personally a turn-off)
do not get involved with
>>Wants the dick in his ass type (turn-off, and probably overlaps with the closeted type)
do not get involved with
>>Only looking to fuck on the down-low and will never date you or acknowledge you in public type (apparently these sometimes become willing to hold a LTR with trans women after years according to https://broadly.vice.com/en_us/article/the-straight-men-who-have-sex-with-trans-women)
get involved with if you have 0 self respect
>>Has a fetish for dominating a male so effeminate they became a girl (hot)
avoid at all costs, it's kinda hot but guys with that fetish are always psychos who will harm you
>>Thinks a little feminine penis is cute type (pretty nice)
the only acceptable kind. where are you senpai?
>>"I'm n-not gay" repressed homo type (actually completely gay and will leave you for a man, should be pretty rare these days)
may get drunk and stab you for being a temptress sent by the devil
>>5605049
>Has a fetish for dominating a male so effeminate they became a girl
oh my god i almost got involved with one, he was 45 year old and into BDSM. it's definitely not my thing but i am dtf with any chaser as long as he's dom
>>5605082
>avoid at all costs, it's kinda hot but guys with that fetish are always psychos who will harm you
Sure about that? They sound nice.
>>5605060
Not who? It's a gay guy in denial who can't get it up to cis women, but starts thinking maybe he could enjoy being with a trans woman for the penis, so he begins looking for them. This type should be short-lived and rare, I think. It's not quite so stigmatized to be gay anymore.
>>5605066
There was a German neo-nazi chaser of that type who had bitches fighting each other in a thread here for him. The difference is he had money (patents, he said) to pay for transition.
>>5605082
>avoid at all costs, it's kinda hot but guys with that fetish are always psychos who will harm you
How are they psychos?
>where are you senpai?
I'm in the northeast region of the US (not New England). Why do you ask?
>>5605049
Ya all of them as long as they have good bodies and faces puls
A-and they can't think Im ugly :(
>>5605374
>There was a German neo-nazi chaser of that type who had bitches fighting each other in a thread here for him. The difference is he had money (patents, he said) to pay for transition.
>The difference is he had money
Figures. Its heartbreaking to realize that traps and trans pretty much use chasers for beta bux, thats why so many of us have this misconception that they are more okay with their cocks than they really are, they'll put it front and center and play with it like its their favorite toy if its for profit (porn/camming). In reality they just want dom/tops and other traps.
>>5605564
How do I not get conflated with that sort of attitude? I'm totally okay with chasers and stuff so long as they aren't repressed trannies themselves, that's legitimately my only chaser-specific concern.
>>5591339
They will be clinging to a large, burly man and wearing booty shorts that say 'daddy's property' on them
>>5591513
>long hair or a hair style that's well taken care of
>tfw my hair never ever grows out and when it's "out" all it does is pile up on my head and looks like shit
>tfw will never have a cute girly haircut
>>5604457
Reminds me of when the one girl in my group of friends in high school said she only liked hugging me because I didn't smell bad like all the other boys
>>5605104
Is that a regretful or grateful "oh my god"?
>>5605482
But the closeted tranny type will just start transitioning on you. They may even decide to leave you for a man, in the end. And you probably want a man, right? You wouldn't be looking for a man specifically if not, right?But I guess you're not looking for a long-term relationship if you're okay with the type who ignores you in public.
You could post an ad on Craigslist's personal sections. There are lots of guys looking to fuck trans women and crossdressers on there. So you shouldn't have to worry about whether they think you're ugly or not.
>>5605564
>Its heartbreaking to realize that traps and trans pretty much use chasers for beta bux
Only the chasers who aren't tops. The tops get no complaints from trans women. There are trans girls with integrity though. Even if you were rich and were trying to court me, I wouldn't look over your red flag (wanting my dick in your ass) because of your money. That's just not how I want my sex life to be.
>>5609570
Was/is she a lesbian?
>>5601278
not trans, but cis male and i have done something similar. intentionally changed my posture for the purpose of being in public.
>>5591499
Stop frogposting and get into a hobby. Autists can be cute when they're actually involved in their hobbies.
>>5605374
>German
>Neo-Nazi
>into transfemales
>had money
wow, /pol/ is stepping up their game & becoming enlightened
>>5605374
can you link the thread with the German guy?
>>5591513
>wide-eyed
so much so that people think I wear make-up.
>shy
Intensely
>skinny
working on it. Antidepressants fucked me up.
>long hair or a hair style that's well taken care of
o-of course
Am I a stereotype?
always shaves
>>5609994
All the guys on cl want 8-10/10 totally possible girls. Basically the girls they jack off to everydday on ashemaletube
>>5591499
>I'm autistic AND I'm gay
They're mutually exclusive?
>>5591513
All me except the hair and I'm trying to grow it out
>>5604853
Most chasers are creepy and you don't want them
t. Chaser
>>5604853
"Chaser" is just another word for "man who will actually date your tranny ass"
But that doesn't count, since you all want men who will date you for 12 years and let you blow him before coming out as trans and then he'll say "Of course that's okay! I love you for who you are!"
Dating someone who is cool with your trans status just isn't good enough.
>>5591499
thats cool bruh, I'm a complete sub pup. just have fun with it.
>>5591741
>TFW you're a super subby puppy that gets molested by hot daddies and handlers..and puppys at mosh events
>6' 3"
>230lbs
>beard and hairy
>takes the dick like a champ and loves to be tortured and beat up
yall faggots need to stop worrying and just do your own shit.
2bh I never understood how people had trouble mimicking mannerisms to appear normal. Like read a book on body language and watch people a bit and you're fine
>>5601568
What does it mean when men do it to me as a hormone filled closet tranny?
Basically a really gay looking male.
I get fucking looked at all the time. Not the usually mean stares of faggot hatred either.
>>5616986
It means you look weird. Thats it.
>>5617010
I'm used to those stares too. It feels different 2bh.
It seems like it could almost they could almost be checking me out.
These are mostly drunken and/or older drunken men mind you.
Would some straight guys be willing to fuck effeminate men if they are drunk or lonely enough?
The kind of place I work breeds the lonely drunken type.
>>5616835
It's by Pease and pease. I think it's called the definitive book on body language. Can't really look it up right now but you should be able to find it.
I should reread it It's neat
>>5591339
In school I was a super jock, homophobic, boisterous, and was mr. bravado 24/7.
Once I left school, I got more and more paranoid about looking too fem while starting hrt.
So I put on a bunch of weight and let my facial hair grow out a bunch and just leave my hair to do whatever.
I try and just wear whatever terrible clothing I can to make me look like some weirdo neet loser.
I figure if I stay that stereotype people won't assume I'm trans and give me shit.
Then once HRT has time to work and I have money saved and stuff I can just be like shave and switch to fashionable clothes and BAM hot lady mode.
>>5617362
Getting fat is a terrible plan.
>>5617372
Well I already had gyno.
Im a year in now and I have like boobs big enough to fill my entire hands.
It does that tension thing in between the boobs and its embarassing.
If my shirt isnt black with logos or lettering all over the chest, I wont wear it because my boobs are too obvious.
>>5591513
>all of these
>and 6'3''
>>5591339
>posts on 4chan
>watches anime
>eats phallic foods in public
>>5591513
>my gay friend fits that description
>tfw I will never bully that qt because he is not interested in me
>>5613957
Try 4ch.be
I'm a sub gay, message me
Snapchat - chrisball98
>>5591513
Exactly me Oo
A penchant for sucking dick
>closet sub gay
>on hrt for more than half a year
>shut up i dont think im mtf
>reading this
Is... Is this why randoms always lock onto me and are sometimes confused or surprised if i say im not gay?
>tfw thought my compression vest and large hoodie was hiding all the effects of hrt
If somebody clocks that i'm going to cry
>>5617542
Thanks, senpai.
they hate life
>>5617398
My boobs are big enough to fill my hands and I was fit with a flat tummy. Getting fat just made you ugly anon
>>5631475
Sounds like we have different life situations.
I'm not ugly just kind of chubby.
Good luck hiding boobs randomly growing on your body.
>>5593063
Hey I'm autistic and a tranny too!
Except I still make fun out of both autists and trannies!
>>5634815
I have atypical autism, which means my autism isn't as bad as for the average autistic fuck, that's why I can make fun of autistic fucks and people with autistic hobbies(like bronies, or people who watch anime/hentai).
I'm a undercover autist, people can't tell that I'm autist unless I tell them... I feel pretty smug about that.
Being an autist of my caliber is bitter sweet, I'm aware of my autism(so I don't spazz out like most autist) or act like an autistic fuck around people but I'm also aware that I might come off as autistic so I become kinda socially aloof and try to avoid social interaction because I'm afraid of embracing myself(social phobia).
At least I get gov money from dem programs.
