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>Where we are:
#transbians on Rizon
TC /translez
>/TLG/ F.A.Q.
1. What is a transbian/trans-lesbian?
MTF transsexuals who are also lesbians
2. Isn't that just a straight guy?
No,orientation is who you go to bed with, but gender identity is who you go to bed as.
3. Are bi trans girls, welcome here?
Yes but please the keep boy drama in MTF General please
4. Are cis lesbians/bisexuals welcome?
Yes.
5. Do trans-lesbians use their penis when they are pre-op?
Some do, some don't.
Old thread: >>4001311
1st for fug yeah a bit less sick
do any of you transbians date other transbians?
>>4009614
why are you asking ? ^^
>>4009619
Because I think it is qt when trans girls date each other.
>>4009624
idk some do some don't
>>4009607
morning~
Yay for getting better :3
too bad I couldn't get you tea~
>>4009614
I don't see why not
honestly I think I'd prefer it
not saying I wouldn't date cisgirls, I just feel I could connect much better with other transgirls.
sharing similar experiences, feelings and whatnot
>>4009607
also yay :3
I have yet to be hit, but half the office is home sick, and some are here sick, mustn't touch anything D:
>>4009672
>it's ok I will just bring you some when you are sick :3
brb, gonna go get sick~
>>4009714
nuhhhhhhh that's not good ;_;
>>4009731
f-fine
I haven't gotten sick in forever anyway
might as well not
>>4009690
hope you too get better soon.
I got a cold at the beginning of my trip last month, what did I do?
I went on a 4 hour hike up and down a mountain, my body must hate me - likewise I guess.
>>4009743
good
just visit me after surgery pl0x
mom will have to work a lot and I need someone to talk to and play vidya with :(
>>4009748
what do you play?
>>4009752
depends on how I feel
can be anything from dying light to bf3 or brawl
>>4009748
would be fun :3
>>4009759
but I don't have those :(
Time to deal with the cows...
>>4009840
>deal with the cows...
what if kate is a pusher for big busted girls and sells them to russia
the whole "dealing with cows" thing is suspicious
D:
>>4009886
You should hear the days where I bind them in the cage and do unspeakable things like poke them and pierce their ears.
>wakes up and checks bank balance because payday
>Dear boss: Please let me work 10-12 hours a day 6 days a week. This overtime will solve all my problems. Thanks.
>>4009977
I had 20 hours of OT on my last check, and if this happened even once a month holy shit all my problems wouldn't be problems.
>>4009987
>tfw working part time and still completely exhausted everyday
._.
>tfw stop thinking and accidently chew pills
REGRET
>>4010045
I sometimes forget and swallow my E that is supposed to be taken sublingual.
Morning
>>4009614
I've dated another trans girl but it didn't work out. C'est la vie. I'd say its no different then any other relationship except you have to be a lot more cautious when making sure sex can work.
>>4009759
I still need to update to 64 bit for Dying Light. Bleh
>>4010045
oh god yea Spiro tastes horrible.
>that look of disappointment in my dad's eyes when he said he loved and supported me
>that look of disappoitment in my mom's eyes when I said the needles weren't for heroin
They haven't used pronouns or addressed me by name in months.
Yesterday I heard someone saying that hormones changed something in the eye, shaping it. Would it be a good idea to hold off on eye corrective surgery? Or would it not matter?
>>4010172
ask your endo and talk with the surgeon you consider to go to
>>4009614
I do!
Actually, my only girlfriend was a transbian. I kinda have an inferiority complex about that, but I wouldn't rather be with anyone else but her.
Morning /tlg/
>>4009614
I am bi and dating someone else who is trans is something I am fine with.
>>4010062
Is that normal, my therapist and doctor seemed think swallowing E was fine, so I've been doing that.
>>4009614
>>4009624
I'm in one right now, but I don't think it's any cuter than any other relationship. In fact, it's honestly more problematic, especially if the partners are at different stages of transition. I can't even list the number of arguments due to jealousy or getting outed because of the partner. It's certainly not all cutesy rainbows and butterflies.
>>4009614
I honestly think I'd prefer dating another transgirl.
>>4010287
Don't worry, who you have or haven't dated only matters to assholes who want to use it to invalidate you in some way.
>>4010171
Well that's shitty.
The first person I told literally tried to kill me so I've been there. I'm sorry anon.
>>4010307
I think it depends on the people like any relationship, to some being at different steps of transition could be an issue, but doesn't matter at all to to some others.
>>4010397
I dunno there are definitely benefits to it, but I am not picky on it personally.
>>4010604
>The first person I told literally tried to kill me so I've been there. I'm sorry anon.
I am sorry you had to go that anon, I am glad you're alive though.
>>4010604
The fuck, sorry that happened to you, that person should clearly be in jail and/or therapy.
>>4009962
iktf. I was a sample collector with the bulls at a dairy as a teenager. We didn't have the plastic cow to collect from either.
>>4010664
eeeewwwwwwwww
>tfw tits
>tfw way too happy about tits
>>4010933
>tfw i actually know this feel for once
Party time!
>>4010293
I do E sublingual because I'm over 40 and thus in greater chance of having blood clotting problems. Normally they would have me on patches, but the glue irritates my skin.
The E pills I take are micronized 17beta-estradiol so the estrogen can be absorbed through the membranes in the mouth. Estradiaol-valerate can't be absorbed that way.
>>4010604
*hugs* I'm not sure how I'd handle it if family was against me. It's bad enough to get it from society.
>>4010956
I came out to my parents via email, then phone call two days ago. The last thing my mother said was, "I love you no matter what and I support your decision but I seriously have to think about all this before I can call you again".
>TFW she kept texting every night after I sent the email saying they'd call but never did for almost a week.
>TFW I can't have any expectations for them to want to talk to me again.
>>4010974
>try to snuggle up to you in the pen
Oh god... that reminds me of a pot-bellied pig owned by a guy my family met in Texas. He would get really excited and get aroused randomly. We had no clue why until the owner told us that the pig "has a foot fetish".
I never felt so uncomfortable as that moment, because the pig was leaning against me the most...
>>4010974
I just stroked the cocks to climax. I guess I'm bi but it kind of ruined them for me. I guess they're kind of fun to play with, but that's for another thread.
>>4010974
eh. that im more fine with. its just the whole 'jacking off a bull that could kill you' thing that kinda freaks me out.
sex in general is kinda weird.
Hi /tlg/
So this morning my gf wanted to wake and bake with me before I had to go to work, and as a result I was hella late, so I didn't have time to put on make up. Do I look ok without my war paint or should I just hide in my cubicle all day?
>>4011052
jesus christ do something to your hair it looks sickly as shit
>>4011052
>wake and bake
cute
>>4011052
cute but hair looks a bit messy
>>4011057
I know I need to get it recolored. I just don't have the money for the 2 boxes of color stripper and however much bleach its gonna take to get rid of all this black to do something new with it.
>>4011077
>any that got rowdy became dinner
mmm...
Why is farming life still oddly appealing even though it's so gross?
>>4011101
You're your own boss, and it was a way of survival for many of our ancestors. Those that naturally liked it, thrived better than those that didn't. So it was genetically selected for.
>tfw perma-flacid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8gTAyhitEg
>>4011112
just barely missed the get
>>4011128
idk tbh
some ppl are suprised as fuck when they touch my hair cause it looks dry but is soft and healthy as fug
what used to help was when I get haircuts my hairdresser always takes a shaving knif and runs it over the hair (idk what she's doing specifically) and kinda slices off the frizzy stuff
what I do :
washing it as rarely as possible (2-3 times per week in winter)
conditioner
>>4011128
ohhhh.. while smoking can be cute i thought she had a strange urge to pic related like i sometimes get.
>tfw will never bake a cake with a GF
>>4011145
Ooooh I see. Not gonna lie, if my gf woke me up 30 minutes early to bake a cake with her I'd be.down. We could smoke weed while we cook and make it a wake and bake and bake! Now I've got a cutesy romantic thing to do with her this weekend, thanks anon
>>4011128
Don't put harsh chemicals in it (bleach, excessive dying etc), avoid styling tools with high heat settings, shampoo every 2-3 days, and conditioner daily.
>>4011169
welcome! I certainly don't just sit around wondering what i'd do with someone.
that'd be weird..
ha ha..
>>4011143
>takes a shaving knif and runs it over the hair ... and kinda slices off the frizzy stuff
There are special combs with inset razor blades for doing this. When the razor blade hits a kink in the hair, it will cut it off there.
>some ppl are suprised as fuck when they touch my hair cause it looks dry but is soft and healthy as fug
Mine too. I think it is part hair structure. Mine is thin and smooth. Much smoother than normal for human hair. Then I at least minimally condition it when I wash it. So it ends up that much smoother.
>>4011171
a heat protectant, while expensive, can also help.
especially if you do use straight irons, blow dryers, or related.
>>4011175
You sound 2cute4me. Hope you find someone special to bake with <3
>>4010307
That sounds nothing like my experience. I have not experienced that kind of argument ever. We both pass so I guess that helps.
what do i do
i pretty much got told i am autistic by a therapist
Hey ya'll
>>4011321
This is proof that the cause of autism is 4chan.
seriously though, just live your life. if it doesn't impair you too much there's no reason to worry about it.
if it does though, i'd recommend seeing a psychiatrist who can determine if the are any medications that could help.
there's really no reason to drastically change your life because of something that's kind of a 'since birth' thing, unless you've noticed it impact your life in any significant way
>>4011360
Hello!
I need advice from you people.
I never had a happy relationship with a girl and sex was just horrible when i presented as a guy. I started transtioning and had 2 relationships with men so far, and they have been nice, kinda adventorous and all that. i broke up with my bf a while ago and want to try dating with other women again. Thing is i don´t think they will see me as a woman (even though i pass) and have the expectation to use my penis. To be a ´chick with a dick´ or some shit like that. I don´t want that.
>>4011321
Don't worry about it. Even therapists toss out the autism diagnosis almost as much as people on here do.
>>4011143
>some ppl are suprised as fuck when they touch my hair cause it looks dry but is soft and healthy as fug
let me touch :3
my hair is long, but wavy and it's breaking everywhere and dry and everything ;_;
>>4011444
>messy broken hair competition
Inb4 bad quality
>>4011467
sigh...
OMG GURL YOUR HAIR ISN´T BROKEN IT LOOKS FIIIIINE
>>4011573
What.
I wasn't fishing. I don't take care of my hair well at all
>>4011393
Just be upfront early on, plenty of girls are understanding. Make sure you're honest and open about your likes, dislikes, etc.
>>4011321
I mean... it's not a good thing but so? Just work with the therapist to find coping mechanisms for your Autism and you should be okay assuming you're high functioning.
>>4011401
Mines either amazing or shitty. No middle ground. My curls work beautifully when they work but then blargh when they dry out.
>>4011636
I thought that bottle in the background was part of her hair lol.
>>4011393
if they're straight there's a good chance they won't get it, and they might have a lot of false information about what being trans is.
>>4011664
It does look like an oriental topknot in the thumbnail. Now I can't unsee....
>>4011664
Never even thought of that, not gonna lie
>>4011806
Is this you?
>>4011807
this is a cis female that's triggering me so hard right now
>>4011813
...why? She's gorgeous and the rules say cislesbians are allowed .-.
Assuming she is indeed cis.
>>4011837
that's not wbt, it's just amazingly cute random pictures that are unobtainable perfection that I'm jelly of.
>>4011813
He looks so much better then that 12 year old boy looking dyke.
>>4011807
Not a chance, I just post random pics. Sorry as we're on an Image board s'what I'm used to. I'm a fatty so I'd totally be into being that slender though.
>>4011813
If you prefer I'll slip into another folder, I was just in my cute Tomboys folder.
>>4011789
You're welcome :P
>>4011806
post more cuties
>>4010984
I feel you my coming out has been quite a disaster. But again that might be because even though it's been many years I'm still not really ok with being who I am, and I wasn't able to reassure them / give them the impression that I know where I'm going. Which I don't.
Hang in there
>>4011867
Totally agree, totes cute. :^)
>>4011884
Dunno if this girl is everyones taste, but she damn well is mine. And I figure it's a lil fitting after >>4011867
I mean if anon wants half-naked muscled hotties, I have some of those.
Anybody have this comic? It involved a MtF dressed girly and someone telling them "you look like a parody of a woman" and in the next panel the person is looking andro and someone tells them "why did you even bother transitioning?" or something like that.
>>4011916
>half-naked muscled hotties
oh boy do I have a treat for you
>pic related
:^)
>>4011933
>>4011933
My goodness, I always knew you had some odd tastes Lala
>>4011932
I've seen it but don't think I have it, sorry!
>>4011952
ikr :^)
I rly woke up in time
>>4011916
Did someone say muscle hottites?
>>4011989
I guess so, sadly I'm gonna sneak off for a shower and dinner soon.
>>4011963
Absolutely
>>4011916
I like girls but muscles on girls just don't look hot at all sorry.
This is much better.
>>4011933
>pic's of half naked children
I knew you were a pedo Lilly!
>>4012010
>I like girls but muscles on girls just don't look hot at all sorry
Agreed.
>>4012010
>I knew you were a pedo Lilly!
totes
look at this little slut riding it :^)
>>4012010
>>4012018
Whelp we're gonna have to agree to disagree on that one. I think a good fit girl is immensely attractive.
Which is amusing to me since I tended to like (and still do like) curvy chubby femmes pre-hrt
>>4011910
I wanna marry this man!
>>4012027
I personally prefer when most of the muscles are on the lower body.
>>4012033
Why are we talking about men in /tlg/?
>>4012023
Oh is that you?
Such a chubby little wanker weren't you?!
>>4012027
Idk I mean to me muscles on women just ruin the natural soft curvy look that women have. Muscles on men though look much better imo.
>>4012041
Yea but there's something appealing about the idea of being held in a firm embrace by a protective woman. Then again that thought could totally be why I'm into butch girls lately
>>4012046
Because most of us are bisexual anyway so it's not a big deal. People talk about girls all the time in mtfg.
>>4012046
cause some troll from gaygen is having a field day just ignore it
>>4009658
>trans
>girl
pick one
>>4010956
It wasn't my family, it was the person who I thought of as my best friend.
I just wish I didn't put off transitioning because of that, if I started then I probably could have turned out pretty attractive but now I'm kind of fucked.
>>4012067
There are a lot of bi girls here, but they don't chat about boys for a reason. This general's topic is trans-lesbian, and we try to stay on topic.
>>4012033
I think I might be turning straight or bi now...h-he's kinda cute.
>>4012075
>cause some troll from gaygen is having a field day just ignore it
I'm not your arch enemy from gaygen Lilly, I told you that yesterday.
Love you! <3
>>4012085
Well that's their problem now isn't it? :p
>>4012086
Haha embrace it, you know you want to girl.
>>4012098
sure thing bro
>>4012085
Sorry but this isn't your safe zone, if someone is bisexual and wants talks about girls and bots then it's fine. They aren't harming anyone so stop getting triggered over nothing.
>>4012127
*girls and boys
Gosh my spelling is horrible tonight. :(
>>4012124
I'm not your bro pal!
Hi, cis girl here...can I ask you ladies for some advice? Or would another thread be more appropriate (the question is about trans lesbians, but as I am not one idk if I should post it here)
>>4012145
sure, ask
>>4012098
>Sets person hair on fire.
Dude that's totally your problem. Have fun with that.
>>4012081
I pick girl, thanks for letting me choose :3
>>4012145
I'll do my best to help Anon!
>>4012127
True enough! I still don't personally find the images appealing myself but eh, I've seen worse so whatever.
>>4012086
I think Bisexuality is definitely the majority of trans girls, but who knows. That said you shouldn't feel bad for liking who you like. I don't feel bad for liking girls!
>>4012053
Eh, I think some girls look awesome with muscles and some look great without. Doesn't bother me any.
>>4012127
I'm not saying this is a safe zone. I was just telling you that most posters try to stay on topic.
>>4012059
>>4012145
>>4012150
>>4012153
Okay so basically- I'm bi, and I've been dating this "guy" for three months. Things were going peachy keen for a bit but "he" then told me "he" struggles with depression. I helped him as much as I could but there was not really any good results. Today "he" texts me a super long text about being depressed and having to work things out on his own because he was afraid I'd leave him. I told him that no matter what I'd want to help him with his troubles and that's when he came out to me that "he" was in fact a pre op transwoman and she's started taking hormones this week behind my back.
I hold nothing against her and I just really would like to help but I'm at a loss as to how to go about it ; ;
>>4012161
Bitch don't touch my hair you skank.
>>4012174
To each their own I guess.
>>4012175
Good for them. :p
>>4012195
Just provide support. Chances are she will become more interested in men and want to experiment eventually. Plenty of trans girls in relationships come out and say they want to stay with their gf just for that to break down on either end. If you are bi and she is bi or lesbian then it will work out. If you are straight or she is straight you'll have some issues and the relationship won't last.
>>4012195
Well keeping a secret like that and taking hormones behind your back is something to be concerned about. It shows lack of trust. If you choose to stay be warned it's going to be a bumpy road and most couples that were together before transitioning don't make it.
>>4012195
Well.... a long thorough talk is definitely in order, and you need to consider on your own if you're okay dating someone whose transgender. While she has the right to start HRT without your approval, that's definitely something she should tell you asap. A week is a little iffy to me but nothing too bad.
More then anything you need a lot of communication and open discussion. You need to tell her what about it you're okay with, what bothers you, and what you want out of the relationship. It's pretty much like any relationship going through a major change.
She'll need support and love if you want to keep things going for sure, though that's true of any relationship. A little reading on what she'll be going through is good, but again more then anything talking to her and asking her will get you a much better understanding then strangers likely will.
Good luck Anon and I sincerely hope it works out for you both.
>>4012211
Yup exactly!
>>4012174
More tomboys please!
>>4012229
>hormones don't magically change your sexual orientation
Well that's not entirely true, we have so many threads about this where their sexual orientation changes out of nowhere after being on hormones, then again some don't so it's a gamble really.
>>4012252
it is mostly "i was bi and now leaning more toward A than B" stuff
and tbh if you already do something like transition it is way more likely to express your sexuality more open
I doubt it has anything to do with hormones
more a "hey I can finally be myself" thing
>>4012246
>>4012252
I think the belief is more that once you've come to terms with yourself and can accept yourself, you're less likely to repress other things. At least thats a major theory. IE Someone becoming Bi is less about 'oh I suddenly like girls' and more about 'I'm allowed to like who I like'.
I've always liked tomboys but never really translated it further then femmes with a tomboy personality. So I can't say I'm overly surprised that I ended up weak in the knee's for a yummy butch.
>>4012246
Okay! off to dinner though so i'll post more when I get back
>>4012195
Back in an hour or so if you have more questions, I'll respond then!
>>4012275
thats a boy.
>>4012264
>it is mostly
Not really, A lot of them are straight or gay then start hrt and go the opposite way suddenly. Hormones affect ones sexuality.
>>4012275
I may like butch girls but there's a reason I lean towards soft butch girls. Good luck picking out better tomboys in the future!
That said preeetty sure that's a boy. As >>4012283 said.
