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This is the Trans Help General thread. We'll try to help you here with everything related to being transgender.
This includes questioning, appearance, daily trans problems, medical info, general info and other interesting stuff to name a few.

MTF, FTM and questioning people are all welcome here to help eachother and discuss possible solutions.

You can also share your transgender related stories here. Just came out? Or you just need to get something off your chest?
Maybe something wonderful happened today! We'll be glad to hear it, it's always good to know we're not going through this alone.

Links:
Articles, Studies and General information about Questioning, Transitioning and other stuff: http://pastebin.com/CyW1dXV8
Lots of useful links about/for transgender people: http://pastebin.com/h1vLPxyV
Transgender FAQ: http://pastebin.com/8QbKyShU
Am i trans/ trans help threads archive:
http://archive.loveisover.me/lgbt/search/text/trans%20help%20general%20%23/username/annicole/type/op/

Therapists: http://www.t-vox.org/index.php?title=Therapists_by_region
http://therapists.psychologytoday.com/rms/prof_search.php
sort by transsexual issues

What will hormones do?
mtf: http://imgur.com/lDBLSVR
ftm: http://imgur.com/HqTqvJg

Previous thread: >>5390148
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Gonna post this here, it's from the previous thread. I'm thankful for the advice and help I received! I just wish to get some more takes on it that's all.

Help me out here legbutts. I get these urges from time to time and they usually last a few months. During these few months I want to be a girl so bad. I almost cry when I see beautiful girls, wishing that was me, and at the same time I feel as if my sexdrive has gone through the roof, but I only want sex if I can take on the girl's position. During these few months (more or less) I feel so confused and it's annoying as shit. When it's 'over' I become depressed and I try to 'man up' and hide it away again. My psych. believes that it comes as a result of a manic episode, but the problem is, I've felt confused about gender since I was 9. Ever since 9 I've had girls toys and I've had girls clothing that I'd wear / play with when no one were home etc. When I hit puberty it became something sexual and at age 15 I developed a female alter ego. What do you think, legbutts? Thanks in advance.
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>>5423770
Could you elaborate? When you say you had girls clothing you'd play in when no one was home - in what way? In a "stereotypical" way or just however you would?

When you developed said alter-ego, was it sexual? That's kind of a big point here actually, how much of it is connected to arousal? From just what you wrote there it's a little conflicting but kinda leaning towards sounding like AGP.

Don't feel bad about me saying that though, I just want some elaboration on what you do / feel while you dress as a girl and such
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>>5423790
Of course, anon. I would play with the dolls and wear the clothes. 4 out of 10 times it'd be in a stereotypical way, the remaining 6 would be sexual and therefore the style also became more sexual. But as previously mentioned, it become something sexual when I was 14/15, before that it was a heartache and a burning urge. Pre 14/15 there were no sexual acts involved. Since the alter ego developed in the midst of the sexual development, the alter ego is strictly sexual, but I still dress, act and behave in a girly manner when no one are near - it's only sexual when I'm in the mood; here's where the alter ego peaks.
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>>5423809
Ok I get what you're saying now

So, independantly, without being set off by arousal, when alone etc you'll dress in a way that makes you feel comfortable(girly).

My question then would be, WHILE masturbating, what is the turning-on point? Are you turned on by the fact that you yourself are being feminine and you find that innately arousing, or is it same as usual where you're just aroused and happen to be dressed in a girly way/are more comfortable doing it in womens clothing?

sorry for long response times if you're sitting here updating was away
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>started transition (at 25) short before /lgbt/ board
>it was so freaking hard
>now I pass without even trying
>my family loves me
>have more friends than before
>like the way I look

I'm so glad that everything turned out ok
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>>5423827

When I'm alone, I'll experiment with makeup, dresses etc. But this depends on the time that I have. If I only have a few hours, I'll try to jampack everything in there (being a girl and also experiencing the sexual act) If I have a few days, I'll live it all out, but either way it always leaves me devestated, since I have to return to being a responsible man with a capital m.

The point of turnon, pre and during masturbation? I always masturbate to either women / trans women having amazing sex which seems non pornish and/or more realistic (the fantasy of being her) or women who are dominated (alter ego is submissive). If I'm dressed and ready, it just continues in that circle (I'm a girl and I'm experiencing it as one) if I'm not dressed but horny, I'll dress and bring out toys etc. The act of regular, straight sex doesn't turn me on and I only do it once every blue moon. I dress and bring out toys because I want to be the girl and I want to have sex as one - since I have no boyfriend the toys are a substitute.
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>tfw they don't look like moobs anymore
feels great but fuck now I've got to start hiding them from my parents every day, summer's gonna be 'fun'...
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>>5423884
>tfw can't tell if boobs are growing well or if I'm kinda fat
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>>5423756

How long does it take for cypro to work? I have been taking 25mg for four days, which I got from QHI. I feel a lot better than I did on 200mg spiro, but the asswhooping spiro gave me made it seem like it was really working
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>>5423894
get a blood test
>>5423884
come out
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>>5423902

How long should I wait? I figured it was a month
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>>5423915
i got my first bloodwork pre hrt
another after 2 weeks on 100mg cypro and then another one after 2 weeks on e
got them monthly ever since

but since you were on spiro before one month seems about right as a waiting period
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>>5423902
can't come out yet, still living with family
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>>5423952
just have your therapist talk to them
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>>5423924

Thanks! I'm probably gonna to bring my cypro up to 50mg then get blood work and see from there. Side effects are way better than spiro
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>>5423978
yeah in the 12 months I was on AAs I had no side effects other than one or two strong migraines (cypro makes them stronger) it's a pretty good AA imo
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One of the things I hate most about being trans is that I've acted male for so long that now it's part of my personality. I talk like a man (I'm not talking about voice pitch, rather the words I use), I act like a man, I have male-centric hobbies, ect. Heck, a lot of MtF people on 4chan are here because it's a more male centric website.

Being male is part of who I am and I hate it.
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>>5424377
My behavior got a lot more naturally feminine after coming out and being more comfortable with myself. I don't know about you but as a guy I was always self-policing and trying to repress feminine mannerisms and speech, and it takes a while to break that habit and to not feel a tinge of shame when you find yourself idly fiddling with your hair
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>>5424392
This.
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>>5423956
not that easy
my dad is violent
I don't have enough money to move out yet or I already would have done
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>>5424616
i see
how do you get mones then ?
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>>5423872
Anyone?
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>>5424736
see a therapist
other than that the toy part confuses me
what does having toys to do with it ?
like how or why do you view them as something female ?
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>>5424786
It's not something female. It's the sexual act and I think it's something within me. When I think of regular, vanilla sex between a male and a female, I think of myself in the female role. I want this to be fulfilled and when I don't have a boyfriend, I use my toys to make me experience it in some sort of way.
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Starting finasteride totally fucked my bodyhair up. When I shave stuff, it doesn't grow back. The problem is, the little black stubble remains trapped in my follicles, not growing at all. Is there anything I can do to get rid of it? It's too short to pluck out.
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>>5425509
have no idea

>the little black stubble remains trapped in my follicles
same happened to my legs and arms but no one will ever want to see those so whatever lol
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>>5425509
Have you tried shaving cream?

Also, there are laser kits for home use.
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>>5424690
self-medding
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how to cope with the feeling I may just be agp and not really trans? since starting hormones I feel like 200% better about myself yet I just spent ages staring at my boobs in the mirror getting the world's hardest boner
fuckity fuck
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>>5425718
Does your name start with a j, ending with a?
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>>5425736
no? haven't chosen a girlname yet desu
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Alright, which one of you AGP degenerates wrote this? >>5423014
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>>5423855
that's nice you don't need help please leave
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So, I'm about to go to bed, but I guess what I'm looking for is the opinions of /lgbt/. I sort of don't know what to do/if I should do anything. I'm a male, bi, 20 years old, and kinda effeminate. I've reached the point where I'm happy being girly in some regard, and my best friend has been great at making me feel okay with that. The short version of this story is that while I don't feel like I would need to go all out transition, I think I'd like to have the typical girl looks (flat stomach, no body hair, curvy hips, etc.). I've been pretty happy since I've accepted this part of myself. And to be fair, I do enjoy being a man in a good number of ways. I think I want to be femboy? Pardon my terminology but I don't know shit about most of this. I'd just like someone who's experienced something similar to point me in the right direction, really. Am I in denial or is there a solution that I'm missing?
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I've had strong urges to crossdress since I was about 12. I had a partner between the ages of 14 - 18 that had no issue with it and would often just let me wear her clothes. I'd cross dress from time to time for the last few years, but over the last 4 months or so i've been dressing exclusively as a woman when nobody else is home.

I shave off almost all my body hair, try to maintain a feminine physique. I've always hated the way my body has looked when I've dressed as a male, but when I dress as a woman I feel right.

Even though I still look like an ugly woman when I dress up and do my makeup, I'm still much happier looking like an ugly woman than looking like an allegedly attractive male.

Everytime I bring up anything to do with it to my psych or my doctors, they just kind of ignore it and it makes me really angry.

Do you think I just have some gender identity issues like they think I do, or do you think it's something a little more?
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>>5428437
Maybe your therapist s using you as a meal ticket.
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>>5428463
Do you really think that's possible?
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>>5428437
>Everytime I bring up anything to do with it to my psych or my doctors, they just kind of ignore it and it makes me really angry.
It's time to find another psych then.
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I just don't know what to think anymore...
I was on hormones for almost two months before I stopped for almost two weeks now. I ended up getting to the point where I was like, oh stop pretending like this is real and not just some weird compulsion fetish thing. It took me several days to eventually do it, but I kind of felt good about it for a while, like oh I can just do this and I don't have to be weird and I can just get a gf and everything will be alright. And it was kind of relieving.
But now I'm thinking of going back on them. The problem is…I don't have the thoughts "oh I am a girl I am female!" like I see so many people vehemently defending. I just would rather be one. It's like >> but I don't really have the meta anger. I am the way that I am, and sure, it will change over time, but it's just how it is and getting angry about it doesn't change me so what effect would it even have? I don't really mind I don't think just being treated like a guy because I act like one. Basically it comes down to multiple things
>if I really have no problem as it would seem, why can't I just stop thinking about having one?
>why do they come back eventually each time?
>had I stopped drinking and then started again after quitting because I didn't need to drink or because of coincidence?
Basically I am scared. I can easily see two bad future scenarios
>my AGP continues to escalate. I end up getting consumed more by trans thoughts and end up having a revelation and now I'm full tray. Then I'm 25+x years and minimizing my already small chance at being happy about my body and end up forever alone
>I end up learning and internalizing the idea that I am not at all trans and now I'm some freakish cone-tit-monster-man and also end up forever alone
Both situations I can easily end up in shit. It's always easy to make the "do nothing" choice because every day you deliberate you make that choice. Tick tock what to do? Has anyone else heard of or experienced a similar situation?
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Hi /lgbt/, I have a friend who's a 17 year old ftm and was wondering if at that age, would his shoulders at all get broader if he started T now/soon-ish?
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>>5428786
they're on the upper limit and probably won't see too drastic a change, but the sooner the better.
i was still really skinny at 16 but when i hit 17 i had grown upwards as much as i was going to and started bulking out. i don't know if it was just muscle and fat, or if my bone structure also bulked out too, but as i said. the sooner the better.
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*SPOILER ALERT*
not really, but sort of.
So I saw the Danish girl yesterday.
And the transgendered individual in the movies refers to Lilly when he talks about his female version.
And Lilly is only present when he has make up, wigs, and dresses on, acts more feminine than most other woman.

Then I look at my self and I'm like wut. I'm pretty andro and get genderd as female on a daily basis.
Which is nice.
But literally dress the same. Jeans t shirt sneakers.
I don't wear make up. I do however have pretty long hair and nice hair and I take care of that shit.
I don't act feminine either.
With time I plan to do that, but when I feel confident enough.
And this pisses me off cause I went to a therapist and she practical denied me hrt cause I didn't cross dress or make attempts to be feminine or have this alter female me. Thank god I found a doc to give me mones that doesn't require letters cause she believes in the whole gender spectrum.
But like wtf is this idea of being full time means wearing dresses and wigs and makeup, like the Danish girl. Like its not some fucking switch.
Idk where I went with this , but yeah.
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>>5425718
If you feel better on female hormones then you're trans enough to keep taking them. Don't worry about it
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>>5428814
"alter personalities" and referring to dressing up fem as a whole other person creep me the fuck out. I hate the idea of people thinking that's how I think just cause i'm trans. Damn it really is creepy.
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So I've been questioning gender stuff for a very long time, almost a year and a half now, and been very uncertain the whole time. I came out, then said "oh wait nevermind I guess" and then immediately regretted that and went back to questioning and not knowing.
Then last night I had an epiphany. It was 1:30 in the morning, I was reading through some of the links, I think it was the "Null HypotheCis" article, and I just realized who I was. For so long I've been saying "I don't know what I want, I don't know who I am." and suddenly I realized that I was a girl, that no matter what I looked like on the outside I was a cute girl with two buns in her hair.
I wrote a journal entry about it, all excited. I woke up this morning and it was gone. Now I feel just as uncertain, just as confused as I did before. Has anyone else ever felt this? A sudden epiphany and clarity just evaporated? It fuckin sucks.
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Anybody know of a trans-friendly endo in the Collin County, TX area? Even one from the bordering counties would be helpful.
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>>5431375
yeah it's normal, comes in waves, especially before HRT
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>>5428437
Bit of an update on this one. I forced my psych to talk about it a little bit more about it. Her response was "it sounds like more of a fetish than a desire to be a woman". I'm not seeing that psych ever again.
Any tips on talking to family members about it?
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>>5423770
Just take hrt.
I thought they were sexual thoughts.
I'd wack off and just feel worse and the thoughts of me being a girl never went away.
I still can't tell if I'm 100% trans. But fuckkkk life with hrt is so much better. Every morning when rub my boobs I feel them growing.
I know I made the right choice.
Plus when I get called a she or ma'am I get flatterd.
So I guess you could say if I wasn't trans I wouldn't been comfortable feminizing.
My hrt doc said it doesn't matter, she thinks I'm gender fluid and you don't have to be on one side or the other to get hrt.
She said for srs however more "test" are needed.

Anyways start with hrt.
If after 6 months you feel the changes to feel wrong just stop. You shouldn't have any permanent effects.
If like after 9 months you know this is right keep transitioning.
I'm 10 months in and my sister jokes that every time I go to the pharmacy to pickup my mones, I look like a kid going to a candy store.
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>>5431814
iirc one or two people from mtfg and tlg are from tx
maybe ask them if nobody in here knows one
otherwise local lgbt center might help a lot
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>>5428814
>the transgendered individual in the movies refers to Lilly when he talks about his female version.
You mean when SHE talks about HERself?

It's easy to see why the shrink didn't want to give you hormones. You talk like somebody who doesn't know the difference between drag actors and actual trans women. Using words like "alter ego" or "persona", along with male pronouns, makes it sound like you're talking about drag. That language is not appropriate here.
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I've heard chest binders are a bad idea to wear to stop people from noticing on the grounds your development is damaged. Would it hurt it that much to only wear it to work 7 hours a day 4 days a week, no more? Not ready to come out yet until I've had face work done.
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>>5433571
It's more practical to wear layers of clothing.

I'm no doctor but I would certainly be afraid of wearing a binder for any amount of time during development.
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>>5433571
Tight sports bras and what >>5433579 said.
Binders are bad for your health and breasts.
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>>5433655
Are sports bras much different from binders? They're both compressive.

The point of wearing layers of clothing is to fill in the empty cavity between the breasts and flatten the silhouette without actually compressing.
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I feel stupid coming here and asking more questions about the same topic that I've asked about in the past but I'm back and I'm asking more questions.

I live with my parents but can't come out to them, if I order from inhouse to a PO box nothing will be sent to the billing address right? Also on inhouse it says I can order up to a three months supply for personal use, is this a hard rule or can I just order like a years supply at once?
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>>5433571
Your best bet is just layers. Thick undershirts help a lot.

>>5433696
Nothing should be sent to the billing address. They just use that for card verification.

And it's not a hard rule, but the more you order the more likely customs is to seize the package. 3 months is the limit customs officially allows. Things slip through customs a lot, though, because they're so busy.
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>>5433708
Alright, cool. I'm gonna just say fuck it and order a years supply because I'm too broke for the higher prices, if it fails to come I can just get a refund. Thanks for the help.
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>>5433686
Wondering the same, they seem to achieve the same purpose but a binder may be thinner and less noticeable.
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>>5432831
Don't know whether that's awful or a relief...
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>>5433726
Good luck, anon. May never-ending tittie skittles come to you
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How do I not feel terrible about being a disgusting tranny?


I try to ignore feelings of wanting to be a girl and it doesn't work.

I don't know what to do about it.
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>>5434043
Repressing your feelings is not the right way to go about this. The desire to be a girl will be stuck with you forever (although the intensity at which you feel about it will be bearable at times and not at others, which is an important consideration). Try to be active in getting to the bottom of the issue with therapy or, if necessary, a copious amount of introspecting. You'll never find true peace with yourself if you try living in ignorance.
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Has anyone ever been to Richard Driscoll's office before?

I found his name in the links in the OP, and his office is literally right next door to my apartment complex.

I just don't know if he's any good.

The location is in Knoxville, Tennessee, if it helps
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How do i differate between a ´type 3 forehead´, which needs FFS, and just having deep set eyes?
My eyebrows don't stick out or anything, they are on the same level with the skin on my forehead, but i still thinks it looks retarded in portrait.
won't post pics, sorry.
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At what time do I take my pills, does it matter?
I know spiro has to be taken twice a day, how far apart or do I just do half the dosage at lunch and the another half at dinner, and do I take my estrogen at the same time as spiro?
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>>5434474
What do you mean by "type 3 forehead"?
I've not heard this term before.
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>>5434546
Take them twelve hours apart, take E at the same time as spiro
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>>5434546
Do you take it orally?
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Hey... Looking for a bit of help... 19 M here and for as long as I can reasonably remember I wish I was female. It just feels right and I'm okay with that.

The real problem for me is that I don't feel like transitioning is right for me because I wouldn't be a real woman. I don't know how I can deal with this.
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>Pass
>Pass
>Pass
And then today some old lady asks if me and my nephew are brothers. Kill me familia.
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>>5434843
rectally

>>5434889
just because you wouldn't be a real woman doesn't mean you couldn't manage to live as one. don't let people tell you you're wrong for feeling the way you do about things - nothing says that you have to subscribe to the "proper" belief set to be trans.
given that you are still in your teens and have had these thoughts for a long time, you should probably look into it further. in my experience, trans-spectrum thoughts have not gone away and have only become stronger, and as you get older the chances of passing get smaller. i'm not saying you ought to do any specific thing, but just that you should really keep thinking about it and focus more on practical outcomes
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Can't I really identify as agender, androgynous, whatever the fuck it's called?

I'd still rather identify legally as male and stuff, and y'know, I guess... I guess I'm just an androgynous guy?

My head fucking hurts. I probably caught the tumblr cancer. How do I make it go away?
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My parents keep insisting I get my hair cut. I'm pre op and pre moans mtf and haven't told them about it yet.

They say they'll be okay with me having long hair, but I do have to pick a style. Anyone here have some nice androgynous suggestions for hair styles?
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>>5435024
Go to a stylist and brainstorm potential hairstyles with them. Every salon should do free consultations.
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>>5434961
How do you identify as non-binary with a dick or a cunt?
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>>5435036
I don't know. I'm really retarded.

I don't even know what I have down there. I've never shown my stuff to anyone ever since my ma changed my diapers. It doesn't look like a normal vagoozer but it sure as hell ain't no weewee either.

But that's beside the point, I guess.

How do I stop being retarded without too much pain if possible? My gender therapist doesn't help.
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>6'3'', possibly mtf trans

should I just kill myself now or what
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>>5434961
You can identify as whatever you want. Every morning I wake up, I CHOOSE to identify as a woman. But labels don't change who we are at a biological level. And we can't expect society to respect us as our chosen identity if our identity doesn't match their perception of it. If it makes you happier to attach labels to yourself and live between genders, that's cool. But it's not the end to your problems if you stop there.
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>>5435136
Tall women are hot.
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>>5435166

thank you anon. i have no illusions that I will be tremendously ugly but this made me feel better
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>>5435179
*not be tremendously ugly
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>>5435179
Good on you. You can't do wrong by staying free of expectations and conforming only to your own ideals of beauty, whatever they may be. But if appealing to near-impossible standards is more your thing, you might find interest in fashion. They idolize tall, lanky people.
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>>5435179
Move to a black area, all the girls are at least 5'11"
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>>5425718
I would also like to know if it's normal for an MtF to be attracted to herself
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>>5435269
narcissism is common enough all around.
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>>5435160
That's the thing
I don't want a label
I want a label that makes me labelless
Kek
Like, null
Like if male and female are 0 and 1 then I'm... wherever the infinite symbol is on this damn keyboard.

...

...wat

Fuck. See, I can't even make sense. I dunno, man
I just want to be ambiguous

I want to stop being so fucking self absorbed and obsessing over stupid shit
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>>5435269
And if it is? So what, really? It doesn't invalidate feelings of gender dysphoria or other symptoms associated with trans. Blanchard, the person who coined the term AGP, suggests transition regardless.
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>>5435292
>I want a label that makes me labelless

The only thing stopping you from what you want is our society. You can rebel against the system and live by your own rules to find happiness or conform to the norm which is dictated by people who have no right to rule your life. I think the former option is easier as we get more progressive and accepting.
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Because I have a fucked up sleep schedule I currently take my hrt at 2 AM and 2 PM. Is this fucking up the uptake of estrogen or do biological rhythms don't matter?
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>>5435335
...

Thanks Anon.
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>>5435304
woo hoo!
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Where is a good place to buy good quality chest binders that aren't super expensive
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>>5435340
I think you're just paranoid m8
my sleep schedule starts anywhere from 4-9am and i'm getting effects.
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Aiming for a feminine body by the end of 2016. Half Japanese Korean here, Not trying to go full time mtf, just want to quench my dysphoria by going out as a girl for a week or so next winter so that I can at least tell myself that I have sort of experienced what it's like. I already have feminine legs thanks to my asian genes and non hairy at all - until you go down.

I was going to use one of the feminization guides (pic related), but I remember seeing someone say that it doesn't help that much, and that running will only make your legs more masculine. Anything that can help me lose weight without getting more masculine? or was what i read complete bullshit? ;-;
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>>5436800
It depends on the type of running you do. Some will argue that certain cardio exercises can even cause muscles to atrophy. There's a reason /fit/ skips leg day.

Losing weight is as simple as eating at a calorie deficit. Starting at 130 lbs, I lost 10 lbs in a month by simply eating less. You can go fast like me, or slow; it doesn't NEED to be an overnight process. If you have one near you, Trader Joe's is a haven for diet food. Eat vegetables, salads, and other light foods like popcorn.
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>>5434704

Pretty sure they're using the term incorrectly. A type 3 forehead procedure is when the surgeon takes your forehead bone, cuts off some at the attachment ends, and sticks it back on your skull, setting back your forehead so you don't have a prominent brow ridge. There are two others, one grinds down your forehead bone, which is bad because there's a cavity in the middle of the bone, so your forehead could collapse in to this hole if it hard enough, leaving you with a depression in your skull.

It's a shitty situation to have masculine features even with money. Surgery is fucked. Starting when testosterone has yet to fuck you up is far more preferable to surgery, which is probably better than being too poor to afford surgery but needing it, which is better than not being on HRT at all.
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>>5436966

I'll just go on a diet then I guess, and skip the running. Got no Trader Joes here (live in Hong Kong ;c), so I'll just have to make myself healthier foods. Hopefully I can reach girl mode by next Christmas c;
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>be mtf
>have a nice jawline
>its ruined by this pocket of chin/jaw fat
>i'm not even overweight
>it's a generic trait

fuq
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>>5434843
Yes.
Since Progynova is taken just once a day, does it matter if I take it in the morning or at night?
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>tfw all i want for christmas is a trans gf
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Dunno if this is the right thread for this, but I've been questioning my identity for the last year and it doesn't seem to be going away no matter how much I try to get rid of it. Currently 21m at the moment, but I'm getting closer to coming out to my family as possibly trans. If I decided to transition, does anyone think I could pass, or am I too far gone? Be honest please. And yes, I know I would need considerable working upon.
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>>5437612
Don't know why the image came out tilted, it's upright on my computer. Let's try this again.
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>>5437612
Did you really delete and repost your post just to change the name of the picture to "fag enabler"?

Your face could pass right now literally just by plucking your eyebrows and removing beard shadow somehow (removing hair, or covering it with makeup). You're lucky; way better than most people are at that age. I can't really tell what your body's like with those clothes, but nothing stands out as too bad
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>>5437621
I deleted it because I was trying to get it upright, then it recognized it as a duplicate file, which is why I changed the filename. Thanks for the comment on the face though; I sort of figured the eyebrows would be the biggest problem. My body would be okay, it's the face I'm worried about. I'm 5'8", barely 120 lbs and super skinny, so if anything I think hormones would only add weight to me because I have a hard time gaining weight otherwise.
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>>5437612
You are perfect twink material. Round and soft face, good nose, good lips, GREAT eyes for makeup, no visible adams apple. There is no end to how easily you could pass.
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>>5437635
Thank you, anon. You make me feel all warm inside.
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>>5437641
pls get back to us in six months after you start HRT, grow your hair out, and learn makeup
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>>5437612
you look like a girl.
if you're mtf, pass.
if ftm, kek
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>>5437647
One thing at a time. I'm still trying to keep things on the down-low, at least until I graduate from trade school. My mom knows about the thoughts I've been having, but no one else in my family does. If I get positive responses from them, I'll consider transitioning fully.
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>>5437652
What part of
>21m
confused you?
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>>5437660
There in fact exist FtM who play it stealth and present as males that pretend to be MtF.

>be FtM
>"any chance I could pass as a female?"
>"no way, familia, you look straight up male"

Good way to boost one's self-esteem.
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>>5437652
Stop lying.
He looks nothing like a girl and will die an ugly square-jawed hon.
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>>5437660
sorry that you're not important
or attractive enough to read the entire post that closely
fujoshit

filename is tc
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>>5437687
Wasn't aware that was a thing. The more you know, I guess.

>>5437690
Most likely.

>>5437701
Love you too, anon-kun.
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>>5433081
Is the anon behind this post still here?
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Help me /thg/, I've been feeling overwhelming self-loathing lately, and it started when I started reading about trans shit again. I really want to see help about it, but I am conpletely dependent on my non-supporting family (my mom once put me in front of a full-body mirror to show how wide and un-fem my shoulders are). I haven't seen any kind of psych help in over a year, and my uni schedule is so hectic that I can't make time to see someone there. It's really bringing me down, as I see no future ahead of me and thus no reason to act toward things that would make me independent, such as getting a driver's license (which I don't even want to get yet in case I would have to deal with name changes and shit) or getting a job. What can I do in this situation? How can I motivate myself to make myself independent if I can't see anything in my future?
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>>5438874
Same situation as you. I dropped out of college two weeks before classes ended this semester because I lost all motivation and hope for the future. I'm also dependent on my family for monetary reasons and without them I'd be on the street.

All I can hope for is a miracle or for these feelings to pass. Either way, the future seems bleak.
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>>5434182
Anyone?
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>>5437030
How is that incorrect?
You pretty much described what a type-3 forehead is and how the FFS works.
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>>5437652
Lol no, stop bullshitting people
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>>5438874
Get a job
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>>5440532

Because you make it sound like type 3 refers to a classification of foreheads rather than a classification of forehead procedures.
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>>5440689
... which isn't incorrect?
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I wan't to transition, but I'm not sure if it's just agp, cause I'm 70% "straight" and I also know I would never be able to pass. I don't ever want to be an ugly chick, but I don't wanna be a guy either. What do?
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>>5441095
Imagine you can never have sex or feel any sexual urges ever again

Do you still want to transition?

How high are your standards? Are you okay with being a 5/10?
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>>5441095
Of everything you said

>I don't ever want to be an ugly chick

is the biggest red flag.
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>>5441109
5/10 would be okay, as I'm probably only a 6.5/10 male at best. I wouldn't mind not having sex if the urges were gone too.

>>5441113
To clarify, by ugly I meant REALLY ugly. I don't mind being below average. Your point still stands though.
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>>5441121
you should transition imo desu hon
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>>5441161
maybe I will, I have nothing of value in life anyway, so if I regret I could just an hero. Flawless plan.
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Fear of becoming an old hon is keeping me from doing anything. Even when I do make up, dress up etc. I usually fap, cry, or scream. So, 95% of the time I'm miserable.
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>>5441113
No one wants to be ugly. A red flag would be "I'd rather be an attractive guy than an ugly chick", and even then you can't take that at face value.
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I'm about to run out of spiro and it will be a about a week before I get my next dose. should I alter my estrogen during the week or just leave it and wait for more spiro to come in?
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Hello I have a question for any people who take birth control here. I am a transman, and I was concerned about getting the shot depo-provera,if it would that affect my T-shots. Till I get my working parts removed, I really do not want any accidents happening. Or can anyone could recommend me some kind of birth control that would be better than just condoms. I had a scare about a month ago and I really do not want it happening again. I really would appreciate the help.
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>>5442375
Halve your spiro dose so it'll last longer. Keep taking estrogen as you already.
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>>5442995
thanks
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does anyone else go through this flowchart
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>>5443659
Went through the whole ride a few times. If this applies to you at all you should really bite the bullet and start transitioning. It's a miserable existence living like that, I tell you what
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Hair. So, hair. MTF trans hair. The M in the TF is balding and incredibly hard-to-manage-Hermione-Granger-tier-bushy anyway, so I've always been clear that it's wigs for me.

I only have $100 - $125, am I going to get decent hair on this meager budget? I'm closeted right now, and am forced to wear a $25 Party City piece around the house alone, it's not even remotely believable, so I'm setting out to fix this with a recent Christmas-time surplus.

Any tips? Suggested models? I like shoulder-blade length with bangs, how screwed am I?

Pic-related, my current cheapo do.
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>>5443659
After 4 laps or so, eventually after the "Embarrased/bad idea" boxes I just went "TO HELL WITH IT ENOUGH WAITING" and I'm pretty happy with how its going right now!
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>>5443739
Where are you balding? If it's just in the front, you might consider clip-in bangs.
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>>5443659
I used to go through that one pretty bad, I think this cycle is tied to hormone cycles for A LOT of people, even non-trannies.

I'm very nervous of how this is going to play out the older and less femme I get.
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>>5443805
seriously transition
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>>5443659
That chart, especially this box, was my life for 15 years. (I finally managed to get enough through this to at least speak to the appropriate therapists and doctors and get on HRT this year, at 29, but am still too much of a coward to present as anything but boymode-with-bitchtits.)
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>>5443783
Maybe, but the back would still be extremely bushy/curly and would just look terrible. When I was in high school I tried to leg my hair grow long, I looked very similar to Murderface from Metalocalypse.
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>>5443659
...yeah. except i'm really AGP and have a hobby and can pose as a normie for a while
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>>5443805
Hey, >>5443816 here. Do you want to be a balding manfaced freak like me? No you don't, it sucks; save yourself some grief and get started already. (I understand if you don't, I heard people say the same thing those 15 years and knew they were absolutely right but I kept going "yeah I know but" and being scared and putting things off. I wish that I hadn't, but I did.)
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>>5443739
If you want a full wig really good high ass quality believable synthetic fiber wigs cost like 500 to 1000. Upwards of 3000 if you want real hair in it.
Sadly anything else is probably going to look like shit. Wigs are a real piece of shit.
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>>5443819
Just because you're AGP doesn't mean you're not trans. If you're actually following that flowchart, chances are that you at the very least aren't "just" a fetishist.
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does laser hair removal make electrolysis less effective even if i have waited 2 months between? All I have left is some stubborn hair on my chin and upper lip if it matters
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>>5443837
not >>5443805 but oh god no. everything kicked into high gear when i discovered that my hairline was actually receding significantly. i begged my doctor for finasteride shortly after and felt a ton better. but lots of guys really, really don't want to lose hair right?

>>5443739
how bad are we talking here? give norwood-hamilton
note that hair transplants do exist and do give good results. it's obviously out of your budget now but maybe in the future?
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How does the sexuality of normal male heterosexuals manifest? What does he think about when he sees an attractive woman?
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>>5444223
I wonder how many "normal male heterosexuals" even visit this board to be able to answer that question. If it's okay to ask, what is your underlying question you're trying to resolve in asking?
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>>5444238
I'm not convinced you have to be one to know what it's like. Maybe you've read about it, or know many people for example. I'm not really sure of a good place to ask this question.

I am asking because I am starting to wonder whether my "heterosexuality" is actually not exactly sexual attraction but a sort of obsession and method of self-insertion. I have difficulty knowing my feelings really, and have in the past described my "attraction" as some kind of weird focus that I can't qualify exactly as normal sexual attraction, though I don't really understand what that is. I have started to have painfully many desires to be a woman and have become increasingly autogynephilic. I wonder if this "focus" that I have previously thought about is rather a desire to be the target rather than a desire to have sex with the target. If I knew what a normal male sexual desire entails, then I could more accurately classify my feelings.
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>>5443969
Yes, plenty of cis-guys go on finasteride and/or minoxidil for hair loss. You might want to mention that you are interested in HRT to your doctor if you haven't, though; you might be lucky and find out that they actually have experience with the process of prescribing it (that's how it worked out for me, in any case; I went in initially talking about hair loss and when he brought up potential sexual function side-effects of finasteride I said that if anything that would be welcome since I have gender dysphoria and that lead in to talking about the process of getting on HRT).
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>>5444249
Oh. Well, I can't tell you for sure what is normal because I'm transitioning now myself, but honestly that all sounds very much like feelings I had. For what it's worth, I don't think it's an either / or thing; you can want to be (like?) someone and also desire them as their own persons, or have one sort of feeling for one person and another for another. Do you purely feel like you want to be the target of your obsessions, or are you also interested in them romantically / sexually? If you weren't sexually interested in women, would you be asexual or into men, or something else? Just some things to think about. It's difficult, I know.
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>started HRT 4 months ago
>am deathly afraid of drugs in general, have a phobia you might say
>dysphoria wins out over phobia of medication
>I am constantly worried that I will get sick from the medication but I also don't want to stop the medication

Is getting an orchi and then having injections the best way to go so I can stop freaking about this? Even though I have regular checks with the endo and he says everything is good I fell like in the weeks in between visits my whole body will collapse and I'll have to stop the medication.
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>>5444373
The Orchi should be more than enough to help that. Losing the test running through your system means you use alot less blockers, which is a big help on your organs which no longer need to process so much.
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>>5444380
Followup I guess, will the orchi greatly affect the outcome of SRS? I haven't got any immediate plans for SRS but I do really want to get the orchi because honestly I am freaking with the medication.
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>>5444264
It is? I always get kind of surprised and relieved when I find out I'm not the only one to have felt a certain way.

>Do you purely feel like you want to be the target of your obsessions, or are you also interested in them romantically / sexually?
Want to be? Yes. Interested romantically? Yes. Sexually? Maybe.
I mean I like kissing women a lot, it's really nice, and I kind of find lots of men really gross. But I still have fantasies of getting fucked by a dude. I don't really know
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>>5435269
I don't know if its normal, but I can't help but get aroused at thinking about how my features reflect that of the type of girls I've been attracted to since before transition. It's a total mind fuck.
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>>5444251
idk the thought of asking my doctor for HRT is terrifying. Maybe he would do it as he seems fairly receptive to me making my own decisions, but still I haven't even convinced myself that taking them is the right thing to do...
I guess it's probably not best to take them unsupervised but still. I just can't tell anyone
maybe in 6 months when I have to get a physical if I'm still on them it will be time because I already have some breast growth..
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I cant handle this
I dont pass and work customer service
Every day i get weird looks at my nametag
People call me as female but underneath i can sense they dont truly believe it
Im losing my mind, its like im in an eery nightmare every day
Detransiyioning would just make the nightmare worse
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How do I tell what's breast tissue and what's just fat?
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>>5445413
Doesn't matter
Everything that looks like boobs is good
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>>5445310
What do you feel is hurting your appearance? If you have the money there are quite a few face surgery options.
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Are sex changes a new trend or something because when my brother and mom asked what was "wrong" with me they asked if it had something to do with my sexuality, which seems like a stretch all things considered?
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>>5445566
I dont have money
Main flaws are
Chin, robust jaw/deep face and brow
Thick neck, broad chest and back, large ribs large arms
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>>5423756
I'm 9 months into hrt, been on 50mg cyproterone whole time.

I'm in the us but my endo said it was ok to order on inhouse as Spiro fucks me up.

Now ihp is stocking this shit:

https://www.inhousepharmacy.vu/p-1313-procur-50mg-cyproterone.aspx

After being on it for about a week and a half, I noticed my boy parts are becoming more active, like half half flaccid where I notice them now but not a full erection. I started taking an additional 13.5mg at night but I'm still worried. I get my levels checked late Jan and this thing between my legs suddenly reminding me it's not just just a flap of skin is disconcerting.

Tldr;
>is the Procur from ihp a shittier version of cyproterone?
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>>5445648
cypro is pretty unreliable when it comes to erections
just get a neovag already mate
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>>5445583
They're a "trend" in the sense that you're no longer executed, imprisoned, etc. (at least not in some places) or publicly ostracised (at least not as much) for wanting or undergoing one, so they're more common and more widely discussed. Medical treatment is also somewhat better, with more effective methods and less restrictive requirements for being given treatment (again, varying from place to place).

There are some "transtrenders", who misunderstand what transsexualism is and want to transition based on superficial factors (gender role based things such as clothing preferences rather than the pathological need to be the opposite sex that defines transsexualism). /lgbt/ generally hates them if they have an opinion at all; tumblr is much more accepting. It doesn't help that the word "transgender" is used in such a huge number of ways, some of which are very broad and vague (covering everything from "real" transsexualism with severe dysphoria to minor gender variance that doesn't need treating in any way or actually cause any problems for the individual).

A lot of people falsely conflate sexuality and gender. You can be transsexual without being homosexual, and vice versa. Some people mistake their feelings of same-sex attraction for transsexualism, and vice versa. Since being gay is much more common and much less bad that being trans, and because transsexualism isn't very well understood even in the best case scenario (never mind by people who don't intentionally research about it), people will often hope or falsely believe that it's same-sex attraction and not transsexualism, even in situations where that's clearly not the case.
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>>5445583
The whole "you're so gay you want to be a woman"-thing is actually one of the first things people think about when they hear "sex change"
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>>5445670
Thank you.

>>5445675
My family already has suspicions that I'm gay. Now they probably think I want to be a woman, too. This is awkward.
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>>5435238
Can confirm, I live in atlanta and I think I'm about the height of the average cis girl here even though I was tall in my home town.
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I'm really thinking of switching to bicalutamide as my anti-androgen. I'm convinced that it's easily one of the best out there, at this point.

However, I'm having a really hard time finding the proper dosage for it.

Does anybody know the proper dosage for it? Is anyone here on it?
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>>5446212
150mg/day
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I think I need to stop lurking /lgbt/ for the sake of my own mental health. It's one thing to be realistic about people's prospects of passing but this place takes it to a creepy next level. I found that refreshing at first but after a while I've started to feel like it's bringing back some of the self-loathing I worked so hard to get rid of.
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>>5446556
Yeah this place isn't too healthy. I mean, at the end of the day it's still a 4chan board
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>>5446569
Sad part is I have an IRL friend who's bi and frequents here. I came out to him a few months ago and he dismissed it as "tumblr bullshit" because of shit he's picked up here. I'd already come out to straight cis friends and it went better than it did with that one guy.
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>>5446556
I came to this realization a few weeks ago. This board is an echo chamber of bad feels.
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I'm never going to pass, I've been transitioning for long enough now to see this. Not going to stop and detrans like an idiot because I know it'll just feel even worse, but how do I stop focusing on how I look? I don't want it to take up as much of my concentration as it does. In short, how to survive /honmode/?
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>>5446275
Thanks.
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>>5447217
Avoid mirrors for one :/
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>>5447217
Immerse yourself in a really intensive hobby like video games that takes your focus away from other things. That's how most of us survived this long in the first place
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>>5447434
> thats how most of us put off transition long enough to get into this situation in the first place
;_;
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Is estrogen/antiandrogen withdrawl a thing? Aside from the obvious, at the tail end ~12 hours after my last HRT dose I always experience a sudden depression even worse than how I felt constantly before starting it. Is this just how I'd feel by now if not for HRT or is there an even lower comedown on skittles?
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>>5447420
easier said than done when puddles, car windows or any windows at night have the same effect
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>>5447217
I learned to stop caring when I noticed people still treated me with respect even when I looked my worst. I notice that they can't look at me straight but they can still hold a conversation with me at least. Oh well.
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>>5448068
kek, fat chance of that where I live, the one transgirl I know got banned from an entire chain of clothing stores for trying to use the female fitting rooms
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First time here on /lgbt/, I was reading this http://avitale.com/developmentalreview.htm on the OP and I realized just how much of the group 3 stuff applies to me. I've decided that I'm going to tell my family this. I'm not 100% sure if I'm actually trans yet even though I've felt this way for as long as I can remember, but I'd at least like to talk to a therapist or something about this.

I'm just wondering when I should tell my family. My original plan was to wait until just after New Year's so there's not a risk of me spoiling the holidays or anything, but I've just been getting more anxious and like I need to finally get this off my chest, I'm not sure if it'd be healthy for me to hold out for another 5 days.

It's not so much that I'm worried my family won't accept me - my sister is a tumblrina, my mom is pretty open about things like this and she accepted my sister as a lesbian no problem. I'm not so sure how my dad will feel, but he's been working overseas for months now so I won't really have to tell him just yet anyway.

Also, when should I tell my friends about this? I'm not worried that they won't accept me - they're all pretty open guys and they've put up with the rest of my dumb shit so far - I just don't really know how or when to tell them. Like just gathering them up and telling them that I think I'm trans seems awkward, especially if I go to a therapist and it turns out that I'm really not a transsexual or something.

There's also of course the feeling in the back of my mind that I really shouldn't tell them this and that it's all just a phase, like how I've been thinking for a long time, but after reading that link I think I understand that this isn't just a phase that's going to go away, and if I don't do something it's just going to keep eating me up, but the doubt is still lingering.

I'm not sure if this'll be interpreted as some annoying blogpost or something, but thanks for reading if you did.
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>>5449801
My advice: chill. Try some shit first. Go get some laser done and see how it makes you feel. Usually you gotta do a consultation before they'll book you in so go do that and see how you feel walking home from it.

Decent friends will be cool about it but family will typically ask dumb shit like "Are you sure?". That kind of bullshit can fuck with your head pretty bad. It's gonna be easier to deal with if you've already started doing stuff that's given you clear emotional feedback.
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So it's official for me. I've decided to transition. 20 years old turning 21 next October.

I've already told my FtM friend who's on hormones already, and he's accepted me (if he didn't I'd be pretty fucking shocked), came out to some of my cis male and female friends and all of them has accepted me (even the ones that quote shit from /pol/... I just haven't told my family, cus my dad is just the most conservative bastard fucktard. I know he loves me, and I love him too but holy fucking shit.

So as soon as I'm back home from vacation, I'm going to sign up for therapy and shit, but it'll take about 2 years or so to get me on hormones, so what can I do to make myself more feminine for the time being? I'm gonna starve myself to 1 meal a day to lose weight. Got that down. Is there anything I can do to my face/skin to make it whiter? (I'm the previous korean/japanese anon who posted that feminization guide earlier >>5436800) My skin is a tad dark from living in Hong Kong with no protection. Any sort of cream I can use to make my skin smoother? Anything else?

Bonus points to anyone who can even tell me how to reduce my chicken skin.
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Self medding test, is it possible? And if so, how?
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>>5450488
Probably a lot more difficult, since test is abused by bodybuilders and athletes and stuff
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>>5450510
True. Aren't there any herbal solutions or something similar to that? It doesn't have to be grade A test, anything could do, really.
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So I ordered my Hormones from alldaychemist. and checked out but they didnt ask for my credit card.... now the order is in but not paid for, WTF I dont know what just happened..

anyone have some idea what happened there?
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So I have a gay brother, he came out several years ago and he was accepted by my immediate family and alot of our friends. He's younger than me.

I'm closeted trans mtf. I rejected that I was trans and it made me a angry bitter person for many years. Now I've accepted it to myself and just that has made me a little happier. I want to start transition, but I'm afraid to come out as trans after letting my self hate and rejection of it make me force myself to present myself as hypermasculine when I am clearly not, lying to myself and others.

I almost feel like running away to transition would be easier. both my brother and i are adults btw.
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>>5451448
You could try presenting more effeminately for a little bit before coming out. Let your hair grow out, shave your legs, paint your nails, etc
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>>5450353
dont starve yourself, thats unhealthy.
Reduced caloried, dieting, and excercise. lots of walking and running and cardio.

Starving yourself seems like a quick way to lose weight, but its not and it will cause some health problems now and later in life.

If you starv yourself, your body will try to compensate for lost calories. it will slow your metabolism and you will game weight fast when you do eat.

You want to boost your metabolism with excercise, if your hungry all the time because of it your doing it right.

Caffine helps too.

I went on vacation in europe this year, drank coffee almost everywhere and walked everywhere, I ate so much good food and lost weight in the proccess
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>>5451461
Thanks
I actually am doing that a bit, havent painted my nails yet. but I am growing my hair out and have been shaving my legs.

So I'm kinda doing that, but not so obvious that they would notice I think
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what do about bras?

like my boobs are gonna get bigger so should I just but a sports bra or two until im closer to my final size?
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>>5451637
buy cheap shit. wait till you are on hrt a year and then buy for your body type
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>>5450353
lightening creams are a lie, just moisturize and use shit tons of sunscreen all the time and your complexion will lighten eventually.
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UK here, is the pdf in the OP's pastebin correct about the amount of bullshit I'd have to go through with the nhs and gic?

Also would I have to change my name (if at all), to something completely different or could I just go from Sam>Samantha, Scott>Scotty, etc? Would not changing it hurt my chances of hrt?
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>>5451803

The things UK anons post about the NHS and clinics are absolutely terrible, so yes, it will be quite an ordeal. As for your name, some say that if you change it to something similar like the feminine form of your birthname, people who have known you since before transition will be more likely to slip up. Apparently your past could be found more easily online with a similar new name, though I am not sure about that.
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>>5451803

You talking about Mascara and Hope? I'd be interested to hear about that too. Is 3 months RLE really an NHS requirement? That is some SHIT right there.

So far I've only dealt with the GP phase. I've got my referral but I'm seriously considering going private for HRT.
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>>5451968
Honestly I don't really see a point in changing your name. I mean, a lot of cis girls I know have traditionally masculine names (Kevin, Kyle, etc) The contrasts can be seen as cute. Obviously it depends on your name, something long like William probably wouldn't work well, but if it's a shorter name it can work.

I have a traditionally male name myself that I don't think would work too well (although iirc I saw a female character in a TV show with my name once), and if I were going to transition I would probably get my name changed at some point to something similar, but I'd be okay with people using the short form of my male name, both for convenience for friends and family and also because I think it could sound kinda cute.
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>>5452250
>a lot of cis girls I know have traditionally masculine names (Kevin, Kyle, etc)
Where the hell do you live
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>>5452261
Burgerland
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Just posting on here because I don't know why!

I'm now 26, I transitioned about 12 yeas ago and had the op 8 years ago. I have no problems with passing, have a good job and I recently I just bought a narrowboat to live on. Life is going fairly well with the exception on one small thing.

I am emotionally damaged. I went though some stuff and I really get awkward around social situations so that I kinda have no one I would describe as a close friend. I am kinda used to being alone so living alone in my boat doesn't bother me that much but I can't help feel as if I would be happier if someone lived on the boat with me or something.

I don't think i ever properly learned how to socialise and while I had fun at the office christmas party I ended up going home early after getting a bit too drunk and freaked out a bit when everyone else was in little cliques.

Not sure what to do.
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>>5452321
I'm not sure, but you kinda seem like an asocial and introverted person by nature. I'm in the same boat, and I really have no idea how to make friends with anyone. I'm lucky enough to have preserved friendships with people since high school, though, but I still worry future circumstances may cause us to drift apart, so I'd like advice too.
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>>5452352
>I'm in the same boat
well her problem is fixed then

I feel the same now that I live alone in my small flat and work my great job, except I'm 22, questioning about everything and don't even know if the reason I can't emotionally/intimately connect is because I'm autistic/trans/damaged by bullying.

Seeking a therapist soon, I hope to find someone who knows their shit about gender/sexuality but not only.
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>>5452370
heh, very funny!

But no I'm all alone on my boat even right now. My only company is the swans that sometimes come and shit on my solar panels.
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>>5450575
>>5450488
literally just go on /fit/ they discuss this shit all the time. don't take as much as they do though
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>been waiting for a week for a good opportunity to come out to my parents
>mfw all this anxiety the whole time

MAKE IT STOP
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>>5453138
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXsQAXx_ao0
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>>5453148
I've been wanting to. The main issue is that they're always either at work or sleeping or around people I don't want to inform just yet (mainly my sibling). If I can actually get an opportunity to talk them privately I'm fucking taking it.
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How do I git gud with eyeliner? My hands are real shaky
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>>5451987
Seriously just google it
The NHS website has all of the guidelines online

They say there is no need for a RLE. Print them and show them to your GP/ psychologist/ whatever and you'll be fine
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>>5453138
There's never a good opportunity, you're going to be waiting another ten years if you keep waiting for one. Just get it over with.
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>>5453138
email them asking if you can talk, just the two of you
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>>5453138
>>5453349
three
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Hi, FTM here, pre everything. As much as I'd love to go on hormones I'm shit scared of coming out to my doctor. At the same time know I need to be doing at least something to "masculinise" myself a little so I feel more comfortable in my own body as well as looking the part when I do eventually go to the doctors.

Is there a guide or tips or anything someone can throw my way for anything that might help simulate the effects of being on hormones, if that makes sense. I'm not hoping for a miracle here, I know changing diet or exercising or taking over the counter supplements are going to give me nowhere near the affects of being on t, but I just want to be doing /something/, y'know?

I've heard good things about FTMs being able to train their voices to be lower to the point of passing audibly, is this possible?

I just wish there was a way for me to obtain t without having to go through a doctor. I've heard horror stories about that though and the only advice I hear is that you should never go on hormones without a doctor to monitor you and do bloodwork etc.
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>>5453379
lift heavy weights
>>5453135
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>>5451987
The official NHS guidelines say RLE is unnecessary, but there is no standardisation in treatment between clinics, so some require it, others don't

From what I've heard the southwest is the least gatekeep-y region; the Midlands are fucked
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Based on a spreadsheet that's been posted here a few times and I can't find anymore, I worked my way up to taking 200mg spiro and 6mg estrogen (the sheet went up to 8 but I thought that was a lot). is this too much? this is all self-med
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Am I still trans if I don't dislike my born gender? In other words, I don't hate being a boy so much as I just really want to be a girl - although I do get occasional mood swings where I dislike being male. Mostly though I'm worried that this will just get worse in the future if I don't transition and I will actually end up hating the fact that I'm male. Is this valid or is there nothing to worry about and I'm not really trans at all?
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>>5454188
Get your blood tested and check your E and T levels
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>>5423770
Sounds a lot like me and i'm trans (or i'm like 95% sure). I've been on break so i haven't really been able to do much atm but once i head back to school i play to try and get Hormones and such as soon as possible.

But yeah reading your post was like i wrote that, so those are my two cents.
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>>5454195
You're trans if you would prefer to be the gender opposite of your birth sex. Whether or not your dysphoria is bad enough to warrant transitioning is another question which is not so easily answered
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>>5454213
I don't think my gender dysphoria is so bad right now, but I'm worried it's going to get worse in the future, especially when I get to the age where transitioning is very difficult.

I think part of my low dysphoria is the fact that I'm in a situation where if I were to transition it would be relatively simple - I believe the vast majority of my family and friends would support me, I don't have a job or school or any other responsibilities to worry about dealing with colleagues, my family is well-off and supportive enough that I believe money wouldn't be an issue, and I'm young at 18 so hormones would be effective.

I'm worried that as though circumstances change and the possibility of me transitioning successfully fades, the reality of my situation would become clear and greatly increase my dysphoria, which is why I'm interested in transitioning now even with not so bad dysphoria in order to prevent myself from getting worse in the future.
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>>5431375
I was like that as well for a while, never came out before now, but i would feel so sure and then the next day it would all be gone.

Idk it took me getting more depressed and suicidal then usually to actually accept it ( and i thought i've accepted it in the past). Now that i've come out to my friends and family i'm feeling a lot better. Still get sometimes when i catch myself in the mirror and just see my man face and get a wave of despair.

Also pre-hormones and such any suggestions on how i can look more feminine? Plan to learn some make-up stuff and i need to get a more androgynous haircut,also maybe new frames at some point.
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What does everyone use to exfoliate their legs? I've been using exfoliating gloves along with regularly moisturizing, and both epilating and shaving still leave my legs with red bumps for weeks/months after one go at it. I feel like I'm doing something terribly wrong
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>>5454372
seconding this. I use a glove
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>>5451987
When i was transitioning, the requirement was one year RLE...
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has anyone ever used https://www.unitedpharmacies.com
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>>5433197
> that attitude.
Eat a snickers.
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>>5454280
The obvious answer is to grow your hair out, but take another picture of you without glasses and from infront of oyu instead of below you so we can see more easily
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How do I stop feeling so deathly afraid of blood tests. My HRT appointment is coming up next week oh god I'm so afraid every time I think of how close it's getting my heart is about to jump out of my chesT SAVE M
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>>5454947
What scares you? The needles?
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>>5454997
Basically. I'm terrified of it going in my arm, I'm terrified of the pain it'll feel, how long it'll last, the blood being taken.
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I look like a cis male with long hair. I'm mtf but put to no one. How would people react if I got a girl's haircut? What sort of excuse could I use to explain it?
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>>5455104
*out to no one
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>>5455104
but anon, you already have a girl's haircut - you are a girl and so the haircut you have is a girl's! ;^)
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>>5447460
I'm not sure what technically counts as "withdrawal". Still, fucking with your hormones, and especially fucking with your hormones in a way which results in a flood of whichever sex hormones you don't want can't possibly be good.

Also the purely psychological aspects of coming off the HRT when it's making you more feminine and having to go back to being male.

If it's happening every time your dose starts to wear off, then get your blood checked and mention it to your endocrinologist.
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>>5451504
What kind of exercise would you recommend that would not help gain muscle? I'm barely a sporty person and never paid attention in science class so kinda retarded at this stuff. Plus my legs are nice. Don't want to ruin them by having icky man legs.
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At my last endo appointment I was still underage and my mother refused to let my endo raise my estrogen dose up from 1mg, but due to a pharmacy mistake I had an extra 3 month supply, so I raised it to 2mg myself. But today my endo decided she wasn't going to raise it any higher than to 1.5, which is lower than what I'm taking now, and I don't have any extra this time. So I'm going to selfmed to increase the dose to 2.5.
Is alldaychemist good or should I use something else? Also if I get the 2mg version can I cut it in half to only take 1mg at a time? (Since the 2mg version is cheaper per milligram)
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Hey everyone, I switched from spiro to cypro and I'm feeling a lot better. About two weeks into it, spiro was just awful for me. I'm wondering, as an American can I inform my doctor I'm taking cypro, or should I keep it vague and have her list me as taking spiro? I'd rather stick with cypro if possible, and I'm not sure how a gp can handle the situation.
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>>5423756
How do you identify your dissatisfaction with your own sex? Do you begrudgingly agreed with the 2013 edition of the DSM and accept that you may have Gender Identity disorder or do you actually believe that you were born as the wrong sex?
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>>5455003
I'm extremely scared of needles, but after having quite a number of them stuck in me, I've become much more comfortable with them despite still having a mini panic attack right before insertion. You have to force yourself to do it no matter how scared you are, and repeat that over and over again.
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What are the odds that I can still get HRT from Informed consent if I've been diagnosed with BPD?
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>>5455003
Make sure you know which arm is better for drawing blood, also your vision may get extremely "static" covered - it will only last a few minutes so don't panic.
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>>5455703
What do your blood tests say? Your endo may have a good reason for keeping your dose low. Overdoing it on the estrogen can lead to some really nasty side effects, and people respond differently to estrogen depending on a whole host of factors (some do fine on low doses, others require high doses, you can't predict it).
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>>5455747
Tell your Dr, they will need to know that you're taking cypro because it requires cautious monitoring and dosing due to risks of liver toxicity and other nastiness.
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>>5455975

Sounds good to me. I just wanted to make sure I could still be treated if I was taking that, since it is not FDA approved
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