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This is the Trans Help General thread. We'll try to help you here with everything related to being transgender.
This includes questioning, appearance, daily trans problems, medical info, general info and other interesting stuff to name a few.

MTF, FTM and questioning people are all welcome here to help eachother and discuss possible solutions.

You can also share your transgender related stories here. Just came out? Or you just need to get something off your chest?
Maybe something wonderful happened today! We'll be glad to hear it, it's always good to know we're not going through this alone.

Links:
Articles, Studies and General information about Questioning, Transitioning and other stuff: http://pastebin.com/CyW1dXV8
Lots of useful links about/for transgender people: http://pastebin.com/h1vLPxyV
Transgender FAQ: http://pastebin.com/8QbKyShU
Am i trans/ trans help threads archive:
http://archive.loveisover.me/lgbt/search/text/trans%20help%20general%20%23/username/annicole/type/op/

Therapists: http://www.t-vox.org/index.php?title=Therapists_by_region
http://therapists.psychologytoday.com/rms/prof_search.php
sort by transsexual issues

What will hormones do?
mtf: http://imgur.com/lDBLSVR
ftm: http://imgur.com/HqTqvJg

Previous thread: >>5191498
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Does anyone here know if saliva Testosterone is total T or free T

And is 14,6 pg/ml high for salive testosterone or not
I'm on 50mg+25mg cypro and 4mg+4mg progynova
I'm not sure if the cypro is ok, because it's a generic i ordered from qhi
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>>5227036

>cure gender dysphoria
>cure gender dysphoria because you're a cis girl now

gee I wonder why everyone chose the blue pill
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I'm just going to repost:
pic related is my chin.
Yes, it's super gross. Yes, i shave daily, Yes, i do that since years. Even though i moisturize daily, exfoliate once a week and try to use the most up-to-date shaving techniques it still looks like this.
So i thought about starting electrolysis for hair removal. I already had a few laser sessions, but those aren't permanent. I don't want to discuss laser hair removal; i already invested several hundred $ and finally got my insurance to cover electrolysis.
Has anyone here done hair removal with electrolysis? What do you think, how many hours are needed for my face with my given hair density?
>>5229230
Salvia tests are known to be unreliable. Did you use a DIY-one? It should be total T, as those tests aren't very specific. 50+ mg cypro is insanely high. meds of qhi are usually legit. Is it baeyer cypro or what kind is it? I used to buy the generica and re-imports from baeyer over my pharmacy and they always worked in 5x lower doses.
You could've at lest looked up some information about testosterone, it's literally just a google search. The female range is between 0,14 - 0,76 µg/l. That would mean 14,6 pg/mL = 14600 pg/L = 0,0146 µg/L which is super low. too low, go down with your dose - or, you know, get tested by some endo. You're within germany, they usually do this even when you're not official.
(it's not that hard)
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>>5229458
It's not bayer cypro, the package says stragen uk, i ordered new packs of the real androcur from bayer
Yeah it's a diy test
The sheet with the results said it should be between 5 and 59 and i'm 14,6 so i thought i'm in a good range kinda
But i thought cypro would work better actually
On the other side i often get hot flashes and they make me sweat a lot and the sweat smells pretty manly
So i was kinda afraid it doesn't work right
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Is there anything important that we actually know progesterone does or do people just take it because why not?
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I don't know why, but I felt unusually horny and masturbated for the first time in 3ish months.
I didn't shoot ejactulate, but I leaked a ton of fluid over the next few minutes after and it kind of had a weak swimming pool smell.
There was no white cum, but I thought it was supposed to stop smelling like guy cum after hormones...

Gonna get my hormone levels checked in case my T has gone up or something...
50mg cypro, 4mg estrofem, sometimes 6mg

>>5230730
I sort of finishes the last stages of breast growth, making it more likely to reach a tanner stage 5 or 4 depending on how lucky/unucky you are.
Might lower some cancer risks associated with E
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>>5229458
IS there something wrong with Bayer Cypro? I'm >>5230962 and my sex drive boomed when I got a box of Bayer Cyprostat over my usual Cyproterone Sandoz...
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>>5230984
no, there is nothing wrong, baeyer is just ´the´ cypro. just like there is aspirin and the generika. Same stuff, different name.
>>5230730
It helps against heat flushes, stabilizes mood and helps with the development of milk glands and all the internal tissue within the breast. It works on some women, but there aren't any scientific reports on it, only in eldery women who use HRT
>>5230962
I had the same over the last year and it's perfectly normal. there is nothing wrong with your levels, you just used your prostate again after a long period of not using it
>50 mg cypro
jesus
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>>5230233
honestly I really don't believe in it

idk, I think I realized I just don't really have social dysphoria. like I really don't want to get more masculine I think I realized, and I'd rather have a feminine body, but I just don't mind being a guy in everyday life. i don't want to be a freak and it's just easier i guess.
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>>5229423
In a perfect world if I had that choice blue pill is a no brainer. But I need to wonder how much transitioning could hamper things I want to do. I know the US Army is thinking about allowing transgendered people to serve, so that might not be an issue, but what about other emergency services? One of the things Id like to do is be a volunteer fire fighter but is it possible for someone to transition and still be physically strong? I always hear about how much you lose muscle, and I dont really want any muscle, but Id still want the strength needed for stuff like this. Maybe I could just dedicate my life to being an EMT, not strength intensive but I can still save people.


...Ive been watching/reading too much about tragic events recently, its getting to me.
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I feel waay way less dysphoric when at home than out in classes/other people's places/etc; does that make sense?
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How did you guys feel after your first dose of estro?

I've heard of people who took one dose and instantly, their feelings of detachment from their body were gone, then I've also heard stories of people who had less dysphoria overall, but much more intense "bursts" of dysphoria
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>>5232949
lol
>>5232879
yes, thats perfectly normal
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>>5232949
I think after one dose it's mostly just euphoria from finally being on HRT, rather than any physical effects. After about four months is when I started noticing a lot of positive mood changes
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>>5232879
>>5233220
How about feeling less dysphoric outside around people than you do home alone?
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>>5233776
could be explained by being more arround others?
I would get ´triggered´ (sorreeey) by other women i meet during the day, so the first one sounds more logic to me.
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>>5233776
I think there's explanations for both of them

>alone
>more opportunities for introspection and self-loathing

>in public
>jealous of cis people
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>>5233776
Well, being around people could distract you from your gender-centered thoughts, so I guess that also makes sense. I know I paint when I'm feeling too dysphoric, since it distracts me from that; maybe the same happens to you, anon
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Still deciding if I would look like a hun if I
transitioned.

Just took these in boy mode.. I know I have tons of hair on my body. I want it all off but I don't have enough money for laser hair removal.

Tell me if I have any feminine features, please
:D
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>>5233820
>>5233813
>>5233805
I'm pretty sure I know why. Talking to people just always makes me feel good, which kind of betrays me when I'm in say, therapy and trying to express emotion. I'll be sitting there telling them about pain I feel with a big smile on my face because talking just cheers me up. The distraction is another thing, that's basically how I get by when I need to function is just deciding I'm gonna keep it out of my head for the moment.
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>>5233961
>extroverts
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>>5233967
Even if talking makes me feel good I'm usually pretty shy and awkward and I spaghetti pretty darn often.
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>>5233903
> if I would look like a hun if I
transitioned.
tbhfam you will never know UNTIL you transition, hun
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>>5233903
HRT and facial laser might do the trick. Your body hair will diminish on HRT anyway.
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>>5229163
wheres an ohio legbutt get started?
im so lost and i really can't ask anyone about it, im too shy
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>>5234385
If you're too shy to talk to therapists, self medding is probably your only route.
>If afraid someone will see your incoming packages, get a UPS store mailbox
>Order from Inhousepharmacy.vu, Alldaychemist, look at OP for links if needed
>Don't kill yourself. Start slow and over a couple of weeks work up to a 200/4 daily amount. 100mg spiro and 2mg estrogen twice daily with breakfast and dinner at most
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>>5234407
If you're too shy to talk to a therapist then you're too shy to transition socially
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>>5234420
Oh nice point, agreed. If someones too afraid to talk to a total stranger sworn to keep your conversations secret that you can never see again just by leaving the room, coming out to anyone else just isn't going to happen.
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>>5234407
i mean i am living with my father as roommates and its not easy when he's such a piece of shit
i dont have anyone else at the moment. im not afraid of the packages i just know he won't care to help me. what meds would one need to not die?
jeez i really wish there was a trans help place
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I honestly don't even really understand how HRT is done. So you take pills/have injections every day? Or is it not that often? And you see a doctor for blood tests like once a week or once a month? For how long do you need to do this? Do you have to take hormones for the rest of your life or is there a point, after a few years, where you are "done" and can stop? Do you have to get blood tests for the rest of your life?
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>>5235643
You need to take the pills forever. At no point will your body start producing large enough amounts of estrogen to mimic HRT, and testosterone will come back if you get off the blockers.

Injections I believe were every week, and pills are twice a day. You can do either. I can't speak for blood tests.
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>>5235778
Thanks for the answer. I suspected that was true. Pills twice a day for the rest of your life is such a fucking drag though. I know the benefits far far outweigh that. But still. The idea that you have to do something every day, twice, for as long as you live, just to maintain your own body is exhausting.
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how the fuck do you get a job in girlmode when your legal name/gender doesn't match? do i need to just wear a binder and apply as a guy?
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>>5235791
Don't think of it like that.
Lots of people do things every day that make them functional.
Disabled people climb into their wheelchair
Diabetics take insulin injections
Old people... they take like a million pills

Transgender people take their hormones
It's really not as big a deal as you think.
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So I just got my gender therapist

What can I say to make her give me the OK for HRT as soon as possible?
I just came out to my parents and my bf but I had no idea the hoops I'd have to jump through.

My dad told me I need to spend at least a year thinking this over but FUCK THAT I'm already 21. Sorry pops not being a hon in this life
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>>5235643
you take 2 sets of grillpills daily, 12 hours apart. two ways to slim it down:

- SRS means you stop producing so much T, so you don't need to chug AAs after awhile. it also reduce the amount of E you have to take.
- intramuscular injections once a week of estradiol can substitute sublingual administration of pills

so if you do really transition no, you don't need pills, you need to stab your butt once a week.
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>>5236198
I threw up a little.
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>>5234420
what does it mean if i don't want to transition socially
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>>5236198
Pic is not me btw I just find it funny hahahahahahaha
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>>5236373
hahahahaha
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>>5236317
it means you're a hon
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What should I look for when looking for a therapist? I havent found any where this is their specialty and not just listed with 100 other things under `issues`.
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>>5237524
Call them and ask what experience they have on the topic of trans.
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anyone have the self-medication guide?

also, are hrt meds available over the counter
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>>5237748
> self medication

>>> suicide

don't do it anon
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guys what does

Hon mean?

there's the other h-word people use as well.

what do they mean?
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>>5237792
Hon refers to old transgirls that dont pass. Hon comes from Honey, which is something this vague group of people are stereotyped to say. Basically, when you hear someone seriously say it, its just shitposting, but otherwise take it as a joke.
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>>5237838
ty family
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>>5233776
I don't feel disphoria much when I'm outside and occupied with something.
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So... My parents are going to kick me out. I don't have a job. Have any of you experienced any of this? I live in ny and is it possible to live on $8.50 an hour? I don't really know what to do.
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>>5237857
I do especially when I go outside and see women. It's become a massive trigger.
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I thiunk I'm in need of a little help. The lines are getting blurry nowadays.

I'll explain; Ever since i was twelve and I first found porn, I've wanted to be the girl in the picture. I've not been able to pinpoint a time in my teenage years that I wouldn't have been happier if I were a girl. And that's fine and all, nothing irregular on this board for certain. I've always had this fixation on girls clothes, and whenever I go into the town centre I have a seriously strong urge to go in the lingerie shop for a browse.

But, in the past month I've developed a rapid fetish for identifying as the futa fucking, well, whatever. One one condition though: the futa must be wearing girly legwear and clothes. I can't get off to being a naked futa, which seems weird to me, although I've also used things like legwear and girly clothes as a focal point in whatever I fapped to where I inserted as the girl, and I would rarely fap to anything without stockings in them at the very least.

I suppose there are two conclusions to draw from this: either I want to be a girl with girls clothes, or I'm quit happy just being feminine with girls clothes.

However, there is another point to consider: I'm very male presenting. I don't need to go out of my way to be a man or do manly things. I've joined the Army (should have basic next year).

Is there anyone who can help shed some light on my situation before I sign away 4.5 years of my life to the government?
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>>5237748
http://taimapedia.org/index.php?title=Hormones
Some testosterones blockers are kind of over the counter, but you can just buy them online and they will usually give you a prescription.

Halp me, how do I get rid of scars
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>>5239030
>Halp me, how do I get rid of scars
Rub lotion with coconut oil in it on the scars every day. I don't know if it'll actually get rid of them but that's the common advice for making scarred areas look better
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>>5238715
why are they kicking you out? cuz u came out as trans?
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>>5236198
Can anybody answer my question?
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so, if i can't get on hormones yet, would going vegan and drinking soy milk instead or regular milk help? i mean, i've been considering soy milk for a while since normal milk bothers my stomach and sometimes causes diarrhea.

also any tips on how to get a more feminine figure and voice?
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>>5239228
>Wanted to be a girl since I was 5
>Hate my body
>Feel more identification with women
>Disgusted by being male
>Can't concentrate in every day life because of constant dysphoria
>Want to be a woman
>etc

just hit all the tranny notes
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>>5239274
That works?
Fair enough, I thought I'd have to fake a suicide attempt or something.
I live in New York btw. Will they still make me be a drag queen for a year before I can do anything?
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>>5239374
If you faked a suicide attempt there's a risk they wouldn't let you on HRT because you'd be too mentally unstable and might not be able to handle the mood swings. You have to demonstrate that you're able to function normally

I only ever hear of people having to do RLE in Europe nowadays so probably not
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>>5239384
Ah, interesting. Thanks for the info.
One more question: How easy is it to get blockers? As long as I can be sure than my body doesn't get any more masculine I can easily wait for estrogen.
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>>5239417
I mean like there are probably therapists that'll give you the go ahead pretty soon, or an informed consent clinic. I went to a therapist lady twice and got my letter to go to the doc. It's really not that daunting unless you live in bumfuck nowhere
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Why does dysphoria come in waves? Can't it just stay somewhat constant? I dont' want to keep doubting myself everytime my dysphoria levels go low
Anyway, for a more serious question: they say T makes your clit grow between 2cm to 6cm (1inch-3inch), but is there an "average"? I've hardly seen any guys with more than 3cm-4cm
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Does fapping reduce testosterone or raise it?
I'm pre-everything and I've heard varying opinions, like trans girls avoiding fapping to make sure estrogen is effective, and then other girls fapping daily to keep T low.
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>>5239661
If you're experiencing gender dysphoria, you're trans.
There you go.
I'm mtf so I might be different but usually I'm not experiencing dysphoria when I'm not thinking about my manliness.
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>>5238899
It sounds like your desires are rooted in fetishism. If you want to change your life because of a sexual desire and live as a woman 'till the day you die because it's erotic, go for it. Whatever leads you to the happiest, most fulfilling life.
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>>5240139
Reduces as far as I know. But it's not like your levels will go above 9,000 if you never fap. It reaches equilibrium eventually.
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>>5238899
Sounds like a garden variety crossdresser.
Rejoice, you don't have to pay for hormones the rest of your life!
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So I'm a 19yo mtf on mones for about 3 months now. I weight somewhere around 130lbs, I'm 5'9 and shrinking (for some reason). I've been told it's helpful to lose weight for transitioning, expecially to remove muscle mass.

The thing is that I have a really weird ability to lose weight. If unsupervised when I was younger I would only eat about 700 calories a day at most. I have to put effort into maintaining a current weight. At 130lbs is it healthy to start doing this again? Or will muscle on like my arms and shoulders diminish over time anyway? Is the healthy weight range different for mtfs than cis women?
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>>5240828
Your muscle will go down over time anyway in the absence of testosterone. Losing weight will just accelerate that process. People say to lose weight when transitioning because men and women store fat in different parts of the body, so the idea is you get rid of most of your guy fat and then replace it with girl fat. Once again, this happens naturally over time anyway, you'd just be expediting the process by dieting.

As far as healthy weight, if I had to guess I'd say maybe slightly higher because of the masculine skeleton, but closer to cis women than men since you'd have female muscle/fat ratio
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I hate that Las Vegas doesn't have any informed consent clinics.
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Hi /transhelp/.
For a while now i've felt like i want to be a girl, but managed to keep it down from all the way back, when i was 8, to date (currently 20). What has been the most troubling issue is the fact that "true" trans people can't "survive" in an alien body with as little fuzz as i did/do, which i've been told is more than enough proof that "you're not a girl, obviously" (Yeah, AMAB here). However, i know there are nights when i cry myself to sleep yelling to my pillow about "why couldn't i have been born a girl". Lucid dreams have also been a common occurrence at some points in my life.

So i started going to the therapist this year, around February. From the beginning i told her i had gender issues and wanted to figure out those, but wasn't really sure what to talk about if anything at all, fearing repercussion from not having a clear idea after more than 10 years of "questioning". Well, there were other issues too, so we kept working on those (bad habits, social anxiety, identity of self, sexual stuff, daddy issues) to make me a more balanced individual, who could find the answers he longed for after clearing the mess inside his head/soul.

(cont, sorry for blogpost)
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>>5242066
Ignore that shit about "true" trans people first of all. If you want to be a girl and are crying yourself to sleep over it, you can transition.
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>>5242066
Come Sunday morning, after spending the better part of a week with my not-boyfriend (and having fought my mother, who is the person i trust the most by far, over him), i managed to talk about these pressing issues in Therapy. I told her i enjoyed crossdressing up to puberty, when i dropped it because i no longer looked feminine.
I had already told her about my desire to be a girl and we understood that i wasn't sure of anything, nor to take hormones nor to start living as a girl, only that i would not feel comfortable being a "living fetish", referring to some transgender socialite whom the media often ran stories about, with gruesome details about their genital operation and desire to shock others through their body.
Other topics were also discussed, like how the only female clothes i've ever tried on were my dad's, and how might having them around since an early age have to do with a part of my life from which i have little to no memories. Bottom line is, she told me i was more of a transvestite than a transsexual, because i'm not obsessed with gaining a female figure myself but also entertain the idea of crossdressing in public if possible. There are other reasons why i agree, like sexual thoughts i've had about it which i haven't yet discussed with her, but even if all of this sounds true and i hadn't considered it before, i really dislike the label because it just sounds so fetishy.
So i'm starting to look for real-life support groups where i can learn more about it (other than "ewww transvestites are disgusting") but at the same time i'd like (if possible) to find people to talk online with about it.

Sorry for blogposting, and thanks in advance if anybody's willing to share something.
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>>5242099
>the only female clothes i've ever tried on were my dad's
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>>5242108
what is that face supposed to mean? it sort of reminds me of "disdain for plebs", but don't know why nor how would it relate to what's said.
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>>5242127
Well it's a bit of "I don't understand" mixed with some condescension and curiosity
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ok so i'm looking into getting an orchi, who's the cheapest doctor that can get this done?
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where to find trans medicine i n portland, Or
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>>5229163

Most of you aren't transgender. Actual, medically recognised, transsexualism I extremely rare.


It's like tumblr in here
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>>5242222
Pretty sure most of us have medically diagnosed gender dysphoria
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How long until I stop being plagued by random boners? I've been on HRT for a week now and I still wake up in the morning with a pointless raging erection.
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>>5242222
lol
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>>5242084
Oh don't worry, i don't intend to allow others to dictate how to live my life. But what they're saying is valid, i'm not going to go "hurr durr stop opressing me i'm le true trans face" just because they're speaking their minds.

It checks out, y'know? I wouldn't dare transition, not because it's a huge step nor my family wouldn't be accepting nor it wouldn't be a fun adventure, but rather because at the end of the day, when i'm 100% girlmode and everything, i just KNOW i'd feel the same i feel right now. I mean, some days i feel dysphoric as fuck, some days i feel perfectly fine being male. Sure, it can be repression, but it can also be something else. The more i know and discuss this, the better i can discern which one it is!
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>>5242300
I think maybe like 3 or 4 weeks until I stopped having any involuntary erections? I don't really remember
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>>5242222
Kinda agree. Lots of dudes are 'straight' xdressers, but a ton of girly faggots are doing the trap thing and get funneled by tumblFems into being trans. I don't blame them.

There's a weird thing now that's like; you must be a macho well-kempt lumberjack if gay. Otherwise femmy faggots must fuck off. So they become "trans."

Girly boys! It's ok to wear makeup and emo hair and cat ears and stockings. You don't gave to be a woman. You just have to get on my dick. Thx.
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>>5242366
but i want titties
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>>5242401
Step 1. Look for the nearest female
Step 2. Ask them to remove their clothes [spoiler]Don't be an ungrateful child and offer something in exchange, will you?[/spoiler]
Step 3. Stare in amazement at the orbs of sustenance, ponder existence through them.
Step 4. [spoiler]Chop them off and glue them to yourself[/spoiler]
Step 5. You now have (seen) titties.
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>>5242329
Oh, I hope it's soon. I'm at a week and a half now and my nips have started getting sore, which is rad.
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>>5242401
You'd be amazed how many chicks are flat. Clothing sorcery. I will buy you a water bra.

You might take the Bailey Jay course. Since trapping is rough around 30, tits may be a smart move down the road. No need to rush it. Plus it costs more than my first car.
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>>5238715
this happens to a lot of trans people, sorry. i'm not exactly sure what it is because i've never needed it but i believe there's something called "trans housing network" for people in your situation. might be some help
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>>5242472
what the actual fuck

and

>new friend
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Does HRT help you feel less dysphoric about parts of you that are distinctly male?

Right now, pre-HRT, I'm most dysphoric about my upper body, particularly my chest (obviously) but also my arms and hands. I intensely feel that my hands are not mine and often it's as if I dissociate from my hands only and not the rest of my body. I know HRT doesn't change the size of the hands but can it possibly change the way I feel about them? I don't mind having manly hands honestly but this intense feeling of disconnect sucks so bad.

picrelated, tfw I will never be the one on the left
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>>5242366
>Girly boys! It's ok to wear makeup and emo hair and cat ears and stockings. You don't gave to be a woman. You just have to get on my dick. Thx.
Nobody is making me "have" to be except myself. I've received enough praise as a guy that I know I could stay a guy if I wanted to please other people. But that's just, not who I am, what I am. For some reason I need to be a girl. I am a girl.
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>>5242366
Meanwhile in reality...
One of the things that tipped me and my therapist off to me being transgender is that I really didn't like crossdressing.I didn't think it was fun and all wearing girls' clothes reminded me of was how manly my body was and I would get really sad and disgusted by myself. However, I still really envied women and wanted to be just like them.

Yeah so, sorry. Not everything in the world happens in the context of your gay fantasies of pure boys being forced to become women because society doesn't understand your love
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>>5243295
OK... but you realize if you're trans and not a girly boy then I wasn't actually talking to you, right? And congrats on being pretty as a guy and also being a girl which you are, girl. OK fine and dandy. ;D
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>>5243480
Your post was suggesting that many transgirls nowadays are simply girlyboys who were forced into this. So you`re kind of addressing trans people and not just girlyboys.
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>>5243273
Also, did HRT change anyone's center of gravity? Oddly enough that's something I'm really dysphoric about and I always find myself kind of lurching forward when I walk, almost to the point of falling over. This happens especially when I have low energy
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>>5243305
Kewl, I didn't know that was my fantasy. I am sorry to hear you're having a hard time. I am also having a hard time because it seems like every thread now has 2-3 transwomen who are desperate to find any target for their confusingly misplaced rage. Ladies I love you, but if you're in a humorless mood, why the fuck would you come to 4chan? Srsly.
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>>5243480
where the fuck do you think you are
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>>5243506
I just asked that. Weird. I have been away and didn't realize that humor was no longer allowed in these now perma-SJW areas. Please forgiveth me mine sins, Gloria Steinem, full of grace. I will see myself out the nearest intolerance re-education camp for wayward heretics. Good luck with your anger feels. Truly.
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>>5242218
outside in, in southwest. google it, son
its where i go, theyre awesome
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>>5243543
oh god thank you!
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Can someone give me a realistic projection of how much HRT can change my body shape?
This is what I look like from the back.

As you can see I have a ton of muscle and am pretty y-shaped. I'm starting at 21.
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>>5243762
Those panties.
Why's everyone wearing all that stuff when you grew up to wear boxers? They're way more comfortable.

>ton of muscle
No, you need to lose weight, And quite a bit of it.You already got good shoulders, just don't hope HRT will fix much if you don't fix your diet.
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>>5243762
I recommend not posting your pictures here because people are going to be unnecessarily cruel and if they do give advice it will be too vague to really be any use. Not to mention that you're going to do HRT no matter what anybody here says, so you'll see the affects it makes. I understand wanting to know what to expect and to have hope and such, I just think 4chan probably isn't the best place for this.

Those panties are cute though. Hope it all works out for you
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>>5243762

Lose a lot of weight then put it back on, your new hormonal balance will put the fat where it should be.


>that posterior
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>>5243787
>>5243804
Thanks for the advice, but am I really that fat?
I'm not being sensitive or anything, here's me from the front, flexing my muscles
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>>5243813
and from the back, also flexing.
maybe I'm being ig'nant but I always thought this was muscle
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>>5243813
>>5243815
You're not fat, it's just how hormones work. Once you start taking hormones you'll gain fat in more womanly spots. So if you lose weight now, and then gain it again once you're on HRT, it will be stored in significantly different places.
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>>5243815

You're going to look great girl, go get you some titty skittles
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>>5243803
>I recommend not posting your pictures here because people are going to be unnecessarily cruel
I'd rather that than a random hugbox.
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>>5243847
You'd rather people treat you with unnecessary cruelty?
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>>5243857
I mean it's true what they say, asking on somewhere like reddit or susans is guaranteed to give you nothing but hugboxing.
4chan is full of trolling, yes, but at least there's a few people who, with the help of anonymity, will honestly tell you "you look like shit, here's what you need to work on"
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I'm 6 feet tall, can I buy women's clothes at general clothing stores or am I stuck buying tall women's stuff online?
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>>5243861

You can definitely get good looking clothes in retail outlets depending on your hwp. Women's clothes are primarily designed for models who are not curvy and very tall. There's more then you think
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>>5243958
HWP?
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>>5243961

Height weight proportionality
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>>5243979
So basically if I'm tall and skinny I'm good?
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>>5243997

High end fashion caters to hungry giantesses. If you are barrel chested or fat there is mumu tier clothing that will still fit you but it'll look worse on a testosterone ravaged frame than the overweight woman
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>>5244011
Doing a quick and sloppy measurement it looks like I have a 36 or 37 inch chest circumference. How's that?
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>>5244026

Oh no worries then, you'll fit a lot of clothes. I personally like high necked blouses for tall women. But really there is a lot of elegant clothing in that range.
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>>5244038
Great! Thanks for the help
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My hips have been aching recently. Is it possible they're widening or is it something unrelated? MTF on HRT for 5 months, 22 years old
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>>5244278
yeah i had something similar going on around 3-4months in. try not sleeping on your side or putting a pillow beneath your chest so your hips aren't supporting a bunch of body weight.
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I know you can't get a job in the military if you're trans, but can you get a job in the Peace Corps? Would that be basically signing a death warrant, since they only send you to backwards shitholes where trans women get killed all the time?

I know I basically can't get elected and I've made peace with that, but I want to make a difference through either government or a NGO. What do?
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>>5244278
>>5244343
>5 months
>22 y/o

No. Your hips are absolutely not getting wider and never will. You missed that boat by like 5 years. At most it's more fat being laid on your hips, but even that seems unlikely for 5 months in.
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>>5242222
>Actual, medically recognised, transsexualism I extremely rare.
>trans help general on one of the most frequented websites on the internet
>most of you aren't transgender
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>>5243817
WAIT
did you mean lose weight as in muscle mass?
If so how do I do that?
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>>5245233
You could wait until the Army decides about their policy on Transgender people. If we're lucky we can at least work a non-combat job. I can't see someone who's transitioned surviving in a combat job, and that's not considering how they could end up in something like Restrepo.
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Gonna self med soon.
Can you still get away with not actually sending a prescription to inhousepharmacy and alldaychemist?
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>>5246344
Putting trans people in combat roles would just be retarded. There's plenty of other jobs in the military we'd be fine at though, yeah. My brother is a dentist for the air force
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>>5246357
Oh, USA fag btw.
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What are some good ways to deal with shaving bumps? I want to have smooth skin but I cut those things every time I shave.
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>>5246723
moisturize after shaving. There will be less of them.
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>>5246357
Yes

Select the "fax my prescription later" and they'll just read that as "gimme my stuff"

good luck!
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>>5246723
Exfoliate before shaving, use a good shaving cream and a sharp razor, moisturize afterwards
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I wish I were a woman but don't consider full transition enough (surgery/hormone combo) and I am literally terrified of becoming huge pariah or a goofy manlady, and fuck going through puberty again, I'm 23 finally became mainstream "handsome" like 2 years ago but feel like I wanna off myself. is it fair compromise to just take blockers, become cute andro? Dress when confident (I'm hermit) Am I even trans??
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>>5247166
Go see a therapist

You can't just take anti-androgens. It's unhealthy not having a sex hormone
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>>5247177
Well, it's alright for a little bit, but yeah, in the long run you'll fuck your bone density and overall health.
Also, just blocking T isn't going to change much anyway.
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Is there a trick to taking estrogen sublingually? Once it starts dissolving it just spreads out all over my mouth
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So wait, what's the difference between "changes occuring" and "completion time?"

If there's a "completion time" does that mean that "changes occuring" is just a hugbox way of saying "don't worry hon it's habbening"?
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>>5247166
i share your feels :(

i took just spiro and then got scared off of it when I read about premature aging and osteoporosis

i still take dutasteride though because DHT can just fuck off forever, perhaps that might help out a bit but i still wish i had the confidence to come out and get started on hormones
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>>5247260
onset time: time period where stuff is likely to start happening
changes occurring: time period where stuff continues happening
completion time: time period where stuff is most likely to finish happening
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>>5247122
Thanks friend.
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>>5247333
okay thanks.
So it's like "some people start way back here, while for others it doesn't start until over here" like a range or something?
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>>5247738
Yeah
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I need a good way to find girly clothes on the cheap-o. Also, how could I get people to get my pronouns right without sounding like a jerk? MtF here lookin' for help.
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>>5247933
you can swap with ftms, or you can go to a thrift/secondhand store with a fashionable friend.

if you want people to gender you female you have to look and sound the part, honestly.
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>>5247933
>get my pronouns right
Do yourself and everyone a favor and shut up about it.
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>>5247933
Go to a store that sells cheap clothes like TJ Max

There's no real advice for gendering other than git gud. Better makeup, clothes, voice, mannerisms, more time on HRT
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How hard is it to get prescribed hormones? Do insurance companies cover it? I haven't taken any steps yet.
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Hi, I was wondering if any Anon knew any resources made by doctors giving directions for dosages when it comes to HRT.

My doctor is letting me bypass the sad system that there is in my country, as I already started 5 months ago and already started going girlmode fulltime, however recent laws makes me unable to import my HRT, so she's prescribing me instead.
What I'm taking in my self meding regime and have had most success with is 50mg Cypro + 2mg E morning - 2mg E evening, however I'd like to move to injections for my estrogen, so I was hoping there'd be resources for what I'm taking/wanting to take I could print out and show her.

Any resource I've found only has directions for Spiro, which is shit and they would never use in my country for transgender HRT anyways.
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So i want to grow my hair out. But Every time i try it goes poofy. And then im forced to cut it. What should i do ? Do i need to remove the volume of it every month ?
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Has anyone here had success treating gender dysphoria with Pimozide?
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>>5250047
isnt that just a /pol/ meme?
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>>5249647
Well for me it went

>Find therapist who specializes in gender identity
>one month nearest available appointment
>"Doc I'm trans"
>See him for a few more sessions over the next three months
>Get referral to endocrinologist
>wait four months for the appointment
>get hormones
>insurance mysteriously covers everything even though they explicitly don't cover gender dysphoria in my policy
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>>5250298
>all that waiting for hormones

Did you even try? Where do you live? I'm going to ask, no, DEMAND, for T blockers on my first therapist visit, which is next week.
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>>5250010
See a hair stylist. Maybe $35 tops.
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>>5250493
>Where do you live?
Louisiana. I also wasn't out to my parents or any friends at the time and was still trepidatious about the whole thing and didn't want to do self-medding
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Does massaging your breasts actually help them grow or is that just a meme?
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>>5251953
It does make me sensitive / a little sore when I do it, and they become slightly fuller, they feel like they're in a growth spurt when I do it often enough, so I think it works. It does make sense for tissue stimuli to affect and potentially enlarge the tissue if done long term, but your mileage may wary.

Though i.e. moving to injections, trying progesterone once you have nuked testosterone for a long while, etc, would give better results.
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Is it common to have a lot of bodyaches after starting HRT? MtF, transitioning fairly early in terms of age
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>>5252031
Considering it's essentially a second puberty, it's probably just normal growing pains.
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>>5252105
You are not growing taller however, but in some cases transgirls do become shorter by an inch or even more.
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>>5252112
Don't cis grills grow taller during puberty though?
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>>5252180
Yes, but height development is not directly linked to puberty.
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I have question
Is there what to distinguish this that Im trans, from thinking that i'm trans because I'm deludeing myself into thinkink that i'm trans?

Or mayby whole delusion think is just escaping from problem.

What if thinking about as escaping from problem is itself escaping from it?

>dysphoria
I have it.... Or may be i think i have it because i'm deluding myself....

>profesional help
I have appointment in three weeks
But I'm fucking tired and depressed because of this shit.
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>>5252536
Imagine yourself transforming into a beautiful woman, not a trans woman, but a completely natural, cis woman. Does it make you happy?

Then congrats
You're trans
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>>5252570
Answering yes to that question doesn't necessarily mean someone should transition tho
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>>5252581
True, but if you're questioning your gender that is a good litmus test.
Another test:
Imagine yourself getting older as a man with no problems. You are successful, happy, no real mental hangups.
Now imagine yourself as a woman, riddled with problems, dirt poor and struggling

GENDER DYSPHORIA is not a factor here obviously because this is a test for it.

Which one do you really want?
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So what's the deal with fat redistribution?
I hear people saying that you should lose as much weight as possible pre-hrt, and that once you start gaining weight on HRT it will go to your hips/boobs/ etc.

Then I hear people saying that you should avoid being super skinny when you start transition because then your body won't have any fat/calories to work with and the changes, especially the redistribution, will happen much slower.

So which is it? which one's bullshit?
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>>5252603
Yeah I can get behind that test
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>>5252689
What people mostly speak of is psuedo science. You do not want to become a skellington, regardless, and it's completely fine to start at average or maybe even a bit chubby, but ideally skinny/average is what you want to start at. Basically just be healthy and be patient.

I recommend however to get to a point of skinny/average, and somewhat fit if you can from cardio, preferably you want to do leg workouts to get some muscle in your butt and thighs while it's still easier pre-hrt. It's also worth taking into account it's harder to lose weight once on HRT.
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>>5252718
>It's also worth taking into account it's harder to lose weight once on HRT
This hasn't been my experience, what's the logic behind this?
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>>5252718
Okay, what about muscle loss?
In that regard I hear basically the same two things:

1. HRT will literally evaporate muscles
2. HRT prevents muscle growth but any muscle already there won't go away and you should go on a low-protein diet.
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>>5252736
Your body needs testosterone to sustain male muscle mass
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>>5252773
So what does that mean? can I rely on HRT or should I take steps to reduce muscle mass beforehand?
This is me btw.
>>5243813
>>5243815
>>5243762
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>>5252728
AA's tend to leave you with less energy & motivation as a side effect, depending on what you take. (Low aldesterone as it is an androgen as well as testosterone, which AAs that target receptors both affect.) This can however be countered with fludrocortisone in low doses.
>>5252736
I'm not sure, it varies on how much muscle you have, you can maintain it as well. My transgirl friend who was swole before realizing she was really trans, took 3 years for her lose most of her musclemass that was gotten from all the workout she did while still repressing. Now she looks like a normal skinny/average girl.
>>5252809
Avoid upper body workouts, cardio is fine, lower body workout is fine. It doesn't matter whether you do it before or after starting HRT in the long run however.
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>>5252827
>My transgirl friend who was swole before realizing she was really trans, took 3 years for her lose most of her musclemass that was gotten from all the workout she did while still repressing. Now she looks like a normal skinny/average girl.
Nice :)
That gives me a lot of hope. That's more or less my story
Those pics are from a week ago and since then I have been doing a lot of endurance cardio and avoiding protein I'm trying to avoid working out my upper body but I'm getting paid to move furniture for some old guy rn, which pisses me off because it feels like it's all for naught
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>>5238715
>Kicking your child out because you think he's mentally ill.

I never understand this logic. Surely if your claims of mental illness are true how the fuck is making your kid homeless gonna help?
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>>5252858
Don't worry Anon, be patient and things will get better.
I got these from the timeline gallery both of these anons started out pretty bulky.
http://i.imgur.com/z56QfW2.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/KlTjeSR.jpg

These images are very inspirational though: http://imgur.com/a/qWpxv
I'm myself just 5 months+ few days in, already passing and fulltime and seeing what kind of results I'll have in the future makes me become filled with glee. c: I hope it has a similar effect on you.
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>>5252923
Thanks.
Broad shoulders do run in my family so, I suppose I can adjust to life with those. My sister's shoulders are fucking huge.
it's mostly the muscles that bother me. My muscles have secretly bothered me my entire life. Like when scrawny girls play fight with their stacked boyfriends and lose, I always wanted that to be me.
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>>5252923
swear these are fake?
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>>5252958
Nuh uh, most of those timelines are of Anons who posted here.
>>5252955
You'll be fine when it comes to muscle, so be patient!
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>>5252923
>passing 5 months in

kill me
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>>5253057
I did not start out that androgynous, I just practiced my voice enough to where it's not male sounding, though I'm still working on my female voice of course. But learning how to makeup, having long hair, having some titties (push up bras are a godsend ) and having cute clothes that fit you usually is enough for even this early if you're around or under 20. Oh and don't forget mannerisms.

Though I have to admit HRT has affected me very positively, but understand without my makeup I just end up looking like an andro looking not-sure-if-boy-or-girl kind of person.
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Holy Fuck my mother is pissing me off. Am I being a wuss? It's been a year since I told her I was trans, 9months since HRT. I pass in public (Hell I was called a girl at various jobs by customers all my life pre-everything), even my close friends still don't recognize me right away. But my mom? She still can't even get my name right.

She keeps suggesting things she hears on NPR radio like maybe I'm Genderfluid, or, I shit you not
>You know there are guys who like to have sex and blow other guys but they are still straight?
>Anon, you see that video I sent you of the guy, girl? Was a guy but is a girl now. He had nice boobs! It was meant to inspire you!
>(Video in question was a hon with tits and a linebacker voice)
>Doesn't get name/pronouns correct still (tolerable in private honestly)
But In public she outs me all the time.
>Ordering food
>Waiter: What can I get you ladies?
>Mother: He doesn't know yet, I'll order first.
>Waiter calls me he rest of the night.
>Even sitting in the damn hospital cause I tried to be a statistic, my mom was using he/him.
>When I correct her, which I'll admit Ive been getting more snippy lately, all she does is say "Give me a break, Im trying!".

It just feels like she either doesn't care or doesn't like the whole thing but she's putting in a half-assed effort cause she knows she should be supportive. Half the time it feels like she is mocking me with things like suggesting tight sheath dresses or bedazzled shirts.

/rant
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>>5253278
Have you told her face-to-face that she's pissing you off with this stuff?
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If I've got some chest hair, will it go away on HRT? How long would it take?
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>>5253278
To be fair my dad calls me my brother's name by accident a lot, I just think they have too many things on their mind to remember who is who or what is what
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>>5253367
Body hair might thin out a bit on HRT, but for actual removal, you'll need electrolysis or laser treatments.
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>>5253293
Yeah, and she shot back that I am acting like a mutual acquaintance of ours (who is basically Tumblr incarnate).

>>5253448
If it was just the name thing I could understand/deal with it.
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Hey thread. I'm 18, FtM, starting HRT in January. I'm a full time student, unemployed and looking for work, but can't seem to get hired anywhere. I've just been informed that I might be dropped from my parents insurance if I decide to go through with this, which I have decided to. I live in Michigan, and quite honestly, I'm clueless as to looking for affordable insurance that covers HRT. Would anyone know anything that would help my situation at all?
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I need to convince my therapist that I'm transgender. With no social life nor feelings of gender dysphoria, what excuse do I have for wanting to transition?
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>>5254026
Why do you want to transition?
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>>5254026
You don't. And you aren't.

If you want to do this, read up on dysphoria and lie and pretend you have it.
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>>5254026
>nor feelings of gender dysphoria
tumblr pls go
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>>5254026
For the love of god don't transition if you're not trans. I miss how easy and promising life was while I was just repressing this shit away. Everything is gonna suck, you're gonna ask yourself if this is worth it a lot, and spoiler, since you're not trans, it wont be.
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>>5252923
Most of them seem to have started as fairly attractive anyway. Attractive guys tend to make attractive girls, from what I've seen.
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Is it weird that I really want to be a girl and the idea makes me very emotionally happy but sexually numb?

Like, I have no idea what sex as a girl is like. I've never even put something in my ass. The idea of being penetrated sounds nice but I can't "feel it" so to speak.

It's the same thing with having tits. I really want them but whenever I try to picture having them my actual breasts feel really weird and tingly and sensitive, almost painfully so.
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>>5254289
The idea of being a girl kills my libido. I can't get an erection without physical stimulation.
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Does cross dressing make you a tran?
I love to cross dress and make my self look as much like a female as possible.
But I don't think I am a "woman in a mans body" or whatever, I just find it fun.
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>>5254475
Nope. Some crossdressers do eventually come out as trans, but it's otherwise perfectly healthy degeneracy.
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>>5254480
Ah okay, thanks.
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>>5254475
Nah, I think the "fun" factor probably cancels it out.
For me crossdressing always makes me feel like shit because it reminds me of how manly my body is.
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>>5254591
Same experience here. Crossdressed one time when I was 12 or so, looked in the mirror and got real upset, never did it again
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>>5254591
And here I thought I was weird because it's more anxiety inducing rather than some relief for me like I hear in tranny stories.
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Is it a valid reason that I feel like an impostor or a fraud whenever I'm with the members of my own gender? I do feel like the opposite gender but I can still live with what I am currently. Should I wait it out until I can't bear it?
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>>5254728
Well you feeling like the opposite gender leading to you feeling like a fraud can't be comfortable to live with, can it? If you're already thinking about this, to the point where you're asking us dumb fucks, you might wanna consider transition. Look at what you just said, after all.
>wait it out until I can't bear it?
If you think you wont be able to bear it at some point, why not start working now?
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Is there any reason NOT to take E sublingually?
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>>5254842
if you're mentally retarded or about to eat or converse
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Is there a certain list of things you should never say to your therapist if you want to be able to own firearms? I don't think my city is tranny friendly. I know if you had to be hospitalized for psychiatric illness you can get fucked over for that, like a suicide attempt. If you say you've only felt like killing yourself, would that get you marked as unfit to purchase a weapon? Or does going to a therapist at all do that to you? I live in NJ.
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>>5255002
Just be honest and forget about the guns.
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>>5250178
It could be, I'm not sure. There is this medscape.com/medline/abstract/8839957 and under the medication's wiki entry's Medical Usage section too. I need to look into it more.
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>>5254842
You have the wrong type. Neither the EE, Premarin, nor Valerate types can be absorbed through the mouth membranes. Only try with micronized 17b-estradiol or 17b-oestradiol. b = beta character.
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>>5255047

...To then get curb stomped
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>>5255091
There's alternatives to guns. Pepper spray, tasers, self defense training, knives. You're likely in more danger from yourself than other people when you're armed with a gun if you have suicidal thoughts.
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>>5255091
>>5255002
Also, it's just your therapist. Everything is confidential with them. Your state has no way of knowing anything about what you've said to them unless it's relevant to an investigation of a crime or you tell your therapist you're going to kill yourself or someone else and your therapist needs to get you hospitalized. So you should be fine. As long as everything is off the record, you're all good.
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>>5255102

Maybe I am at greater risk of being harmed with a gun in my possession, but I'll tell you this: I have enough interest in my own wellbeing that I would make sure I don't wake up. That's unlike the average punk, who would beat the shit out of me and not give a fuck about whatever disability I have to live with for the rest of my life.

>>5255115

A diagnosis of gender dysphoria won't send up red flags during a background check then?
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>>5255134
It shouldn't, other issues that might be diagnosed could though. If you really want to be sure, look up your state's laws or contact experts.
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I think i'm in this phase were all the euphoria and happyness just fades away and reality hits me hard. For references i'm 22, 17 months HRT, straight and i'm stealth since i moved into this part of the country.
A lot happend within the last year. Came out, parents hated me, now love me a lot, lost most of my friends, got a few new ones (which are all depressed), had another transwomen fall in love with me and threatend to kill herself when i would break up with her, received a lot of hate from colleagues after i was outed, was sexually harrassed a lot, still have existantial crisis over having 70 cents left for the rest of the month and – again – not enough rent, and so on.
Since a few weeks i can't get over the fact that i get so hung up on how fucked up it is to be trans. I hate myself for it, i still hate myself. Other said they're jealous cause of my looks or how well it turned out with my parents, but they ignore what kind of problems added to it.
Most days i just hate others arround me. I smile, i'm happy, i chitchat but i just have a strong urge to leave everyone behind, kill myself and not think about all the stuff that bugs me ever again. I can't bear children, i will always be a second class citizien, i will never find a man who will love me for who i am, i will never be respected by people who know, who i look up to - one could say i'm extremely jealous of normies. I would say i'm not depressed but others say i am and that it's bad. Besides work and studying i barely leave the house.
I feel worthless and like a burden. My best ´weknoweverythingabouteachother´ friends left me behind and look at me like some kind of freak or laugh at me, while colleagues are passive aggressive or talk really nasty stuff behind my back. It's fun talking to drunk colleagues...
Is this just temporary? I don't think i can get over the fact that i'm not a woman, nor that i will ever be. I wish i could accept myself
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>>5252112
Any evidence of that? I can't see how that could even be possible.
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Is it true that HRT shrinks the prostate?
If it does, can buttsex still be enjoyable after HRT?
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>>5255586
In some cases HRT can cause a reduction in the amount of cartilage you have, particularly in the discs in your spine.
Some people don't shrink at all though, where as some people here have said they lost up to 2 inches of height.
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>>5255586
I don't even know myself, but I know of transgirls who have lost an inch or so, but most I hear is could just be just a myth I guess.
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>>5255610
just a bit
yes it's still enjoyable
just keep using it
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Passable face but weird body transwomen
Gerd that causes me to throw up fairly often, i need to take lots of nasuea pills or smoke, cant sit or lay for long periods of times, up every morning at 4-6 am because nasuea, trying to give oral can be hard
Some intestinal disorder that makes anal impossible. not only will it usually never go in but it will hurt very badly, it doesn't matter anyway no matter anything even massive amount of lube and time.

bad dysphoria and neet

is their any hope
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>>5255625
hip rotation may also effect height.

cartilage in females is typically thinner than in males.

I've seen a 1 size reduction in foot size. At least I'm now a size 12 instead of 13. My overall height is only down at most 3/4ths inch.
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How much do I have to use it in order to not lose it?
Should I worry about not losing it for better SRS results down the road?
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>>5259645
just weekly
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I've been taking Progynova and/or Estrofem so far but I've got my hands on some 100µg patches. Seeing as I've adjusted my dose with Progynova to 6mg with an endocrinologist checking my blood levels, is there any way I can translate this to an equivalent for transdermal application? There's no chance I'll be seeing my endocrinologist anytime soon and I'm thinking about a patch +2mg progynova daily, does that sound right?
Also, afaik I'm supposed to apply patches to different areas every time I replace them, but when is it safe again to use a spot I had formally patched up?

I've also got my hands on progesterone pills; I'm aware progesterone creams need to be cycled 14 days on/14 days off or something cause it builds up in my body fat when taken transdermally, does this apply to pills aswell? And to non-biological females?
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>>5260915
Patches are their own beast. A 100ug patch is likely good for an average of 80+/-30pg/mL in the blood.

>progesterone
You can choose whatever number of day cycle you want within reason. 28 is pretty standard.

>And to non-biological females?
Not that much difference between males and females, and what soft body tissue differences there are slowly get switched over to female side during the first couple years of HRT.
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>>5261450
I've been struggling to hit 100 pg/ml with 4mg worth of pills; Would you suggest using two patches or two pills in addition to the one patch?

The progesterone made me extremely dizzy today, is that gonna go away? I felt kinda like when magic mushrooms just start to kick in.
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What to do...

>30 year old cis male
>recently accept I am bisexual
>meet a really cute guy
>he went to a top university (like me), but studied different things
>we have great conversations
>I start to feel a magnetic attraction to him
>exchange numbers
>find out afterwards that he is trans (FtM) and had reassignment surgery

I don't know if I cam deal with the last part. I am very open minded, but I JUST came out and I am still dealing with the worst of the emotional pain.

I'm already nervous about having sex with guys.

Help talk me through this...
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>>5261533
First off, if you're having pain accepting you're bi, stop fucking around and go see a therapist. They'll be able to help you work through it.
Now, what exactly is wrong with him being FtM?
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>>5261487
Adding a patch to the 4mg from pills would push you up 50pg/mL to 110pg/mL. Two patches, expensive, would be 100pg/mL to 220pg/mL E2 levels in the blood.

I staggered three patches on 36 hour start offset and on for 4.5 days, and had 222pg/mL blood level on a non change day. Sadly my skin and patches don't like each other. Where the patches were itched like crazy and the adhesive on the patches was removing tiny spots of skin down to into the living skin layer. Only around 10% of people have issues with patches. If you do, obviously stop using them, and go back to pills only.

I started using two patches staggered 48 hours from each other using their week long 3 and 4 day replacement cycle, and noticed I felt much better psychologically on the day when I changed a patch right after a patch change on the previous day. So I looked at the curves from the patch chart, and did some calcs and realized that I was likely up in the 180-200pg/ml range during that time. I then worked out a minimal patch schedule that kept me in that range. It was effectively 2.5 patches at a time. They generally figure an E2 blood level of 160pg/mL to 200pg/mL is near ideal. The advantage of patches and implants is it is a smooth relatively even blood level.
>progesterone
Don't know it yet. I'll be starting it soon.
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>>5261562
Eek, your timing and dosage sounds like rocket science. Staggering them seems pretty reasonable when looking at the chart, I'll do that. Good idea. Maybe I'll do a pill every 24h after changing a patch too.

My skin's a bit itchy under the patch but I'm used to it from neurodermatitis, so thats no deal breaker.

My endo said my 96pg/ml is ideal for whatever reason, but luckily I knew to question that.
Only reason I could find why he'd say that is that maybe he thought my extremely high estron would subsidize.
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Progesterone pills or cream?
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>>5261646
Cream is pretty bad from what I read.

This is one of the articles:
https://www.zimmernutrition.com/learning-center/health-articles/article/progesterone-cream-dangers/
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>>5261646
This >>5261656
>https://www.zimmernutrition.com/learning-center/health-articles/article/progesterone-cream-dangers/
is more a warning about using to much progesterone. The patient mentioned clearly was using to much progesterone for her situation, and it then built up in body fat stores. From them it was being released all throughout her cycle, and for months after stopping use. You could have the same issue with pills.
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>>5255564
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Living in Yukon, Canada in the middle of buttfuck know where as a FTM. I'm just over a year on T and been trying for T about 8 months to get either my top or bottom surgery in line through Cameron Bowman in Vancouver and Pierre Brassard in Quebec respectively. But today met with my GP and he told me I'm on a waiting list for Dr. Bowman that's 12-17 months long from today.

Already 1 year on T, out to family and living/presenting as male in day to day life but still can't get a therapist to confirm my gender dysphoria to get coverage on surgeries. Any other canadians recommend a surgeon besides Cameron Bowman for top surgery, who'd be less of a wait? I'm sitting on 11K CAD, I can pay for my own surgery without health coverage. I just don't know if I can go another year+ waiting for a simple consultation. I don't know what other doctors offer chest reconstruction in my area though, feeling quite hopeless.
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is flutamide an effective AA? i ran out of spiro so I'm taking 250mg flutamide 3 times a day
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What does this say?

>"Diagnosis: Gender Identity Disorder?
>[Something]
>[Something] Endocrinology"
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I'm thinking of getting an epilator. Is it important to shell out for a good one or will a random one off the shelf do?
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>>5263997
You don't have to pay too much for an epilator usually.

http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-ES-ED90-P-Ladies-Epilator-Shaver/dp/B00DG740RI Is the one I have, that is pretty great and not too expensive and I like the extra attachments. I.e. you want your hairs shorter before epilating for the first time, or else you risk clogging the spinny things as hairs wrap around them, etc.
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I thought I would ask this here as I wont be able to see a therapist until march, Is it possible that my depression might be making me think I might be trans when it could a wish for something better in my life?

I've had problems with anxiety and being depressed since primary school and I can't even remember a time when that wasn't the case. I know that I have never liked my body and cover it up whenever possible, although having eczema and trying to explain that the cuts all over my body are not any conscious act of self-harm was also a factor. I would have constant daily thoughts of wanting to be female to the point that I wished every night as a child that I would wake up and be completely different, although with a history of being bullied all through school it might have been to be something as far removed from myself as possible.

I know that at 25 I really should have figured this out by now and have at least tried but I was always scared that I would lose everything as a consequence for my actions. The closest thing I have done was grow my hair out for over a year and it reached my shoulders and constantly being told about how terrible it looked and I should get it cut by family and friends, I ended up doing it to make them stop and answered my mother's comment about how she liked it like this with "at least one of us is happy". I can't believe how pathetic I am at this age and the thought of looking like this for the rest of my life fills me with dread to the point that I don't want to live anymore but again, that could be the depression talking.

I'm sorry for the wall of text, I don't know anywhere else that I could say this.
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>>5266696
yeah it's possible. ultimately it's up to you to introspect it. keep in mind there may be a subconscious causal relationship between having GD and having neurotic disorders.

gl anon
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I have a lot of neck fat despite being underweight. It's a genetic thing as far as I can tell. I'm on HRT for about 3 months now. Will that fat eventually go away or is it not a masculine trait? It makes my neck and jaw look bigger than they are, which makes me look male.
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>>5266696
Possible, but it's pretty tricky to work out since depression can be directly caused by dysphoria.
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>>5239093
You're an idiot.
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>>5266696
Forget about all that "Am I truly trans?" bullshit. Instead, decide whether it would make you happier to be the opposite gender.
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SUP NUGGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASSS

So my gender counselor said that, so long as I meet with her a few more times, I can definitely get an endo appointment by January of next year, which I am super happy about!!

I mean really I wanted to start like a day after our first session but hey not bad. My question is though: what should I do to prepare for this? Is there any way that I can somehow stunt any puberty or growth spurts that might occur within the next two months?
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>>5269224
>Is there any way that I can somehow stunt any puberty or growth spurts that might occur within the next two months?

Malnutrition.
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