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do lesbians and straight men (or other way around) like the same
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do lesbians and straight men (or other way around) like the same things about their preferred gender, or is it different?
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Dunno lol.
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>>6282088
This is a good question. I'll give my input as a lesbian for why I like women I guess? Sort of hard to break down I'll try
>vaginas are cute
>body shape is superior and attractive
>boobs
(I would assume this is the same for straight guys)
Also:
>girls are pleasant to be around in terms of personality and stuff
>more sensual
>less defensive, more open minded, more chill and sociable
>don't make me want to jump off a bridge when I talk to them
>better hygiene
>like the same things as me generally if they're also femme, but at the very least aren't bored by things girls are usually interested in
>intuitive and kind
>pretty (??) idk
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Do straight women and gay guys have the same tastes in men? I think it's a case by case situation desu. Personally I cannot stand weak women with no personalities. I don't know if straight men feel the same way or not
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>>6282154
Yeah I know straight guys are into more submissive girls, but a lot of lesbians are the opposite
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>>6282088
>straight guy here
Lesbian buddy hates hairy pussy even more than I do, so there's that.

She has fisted a few of her sexual partners and enjoyed getting them off like that. I would probably be a little apprehensive about fisting a girl because my peen might be a disappointment, so there's also that.
>inb4: yes I know vaginas stretch and recover. not saying I wouldn't do it, but I would be apprehensive.

But it's probably more about an individuals personal preferences than a preferred gender thing


>>6282149
probably yes to all this but one thing about hetero relationships is it's nice find someone that feels like your complete opposite but still seems to fit with you. It's like they don't even think like you but they still fit you and make you a better/different person. But maybe that's the same for same sex relationships as well?
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Pan guy here. Everything's hot.
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I've actually done some research on this. I'll post my findings later
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I assume lesbians don't fall for the same tricks men do, because they know the tricks. Wearing makeup and clothes that try and make you look thinner than you are aren't going to fool another women so they don't do it(Or rather they don't feel they HAVE to do it).

Which is why men think real lesbians are as a general rule, plain to ugly. Because they aren't catering to them.
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>>6282088
I have no idea what straight women like about guys, and frankly I have no desire to know.
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>>6282219
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Sorry I'm so late. I am this anon:
>>6282219

I couldn't type this out earlier because I was on my phone, but now I'm on a laptop. So let me explain myself.

I am not a professional university approved researcher so please take my observations with a grain of salt. I study the porn that straight/gay men and women enjoy because I work for a porn business whose interest lies in seeing if it is profitable to cater to these demographics.

Here are my findings:
>Gay men and straight men have similar tastes
>Both prefer a vast array of different partners
>explicit porn, a lot of specific fetishes, heavy emphasis on sex and genitalia and penetration in general

There is a lot of porn catering to straight women, but I've haven't had much luck finding a lot of porn catering to gay women. Here's my observations:
>gay and straight women prioritize romance
>lots of foreplay
>there has to be a story
>usually look for that one perfect person.
>Harems are a fetish, but most porn catering to women is the worship and sexual tension between the submissive partner and sexy, romantic dominant partner

So what they prefer in real life can be correlated to their tastes in porn. Lesbians and straight men both like women but lesbians want that one perfect girl in a romance, while straight guys want to fuck a bunch of different randoms.

This is just a generalized observation. If you ask individuals, of course, you're going to get different tastes and answers.
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>>6282189
yeah, het relationships are so alien interacting with someone who has the opposite body, and was raised to think the the opposite ways you do. you're friends, you can connect...but there's always a sense of unknown you feel in moments

men and women fulfill each other cuz of this, if they're both raised traditionally. women let men have an emotional outlet, and men provide the structure for women to follow. it's why i like het relationships - the dependency is needed
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>>6285841

I'm curious as to how trans people work within this.
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>>6285883
Of course you are. Trans people are always trying to make things about their identity.
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Straight guy here so i'll throw in my two cents about guys.

That guys know how to play with a cock properly
Guys
More often than not, have the same interests as me
More open to new ideas sexually
Upfront about what they want

It's because of these ideas (and a few more specific to trans) that i've been seeing trans girls recently.
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>>6282352
Think about a butch lesbian and add a cock and voila.
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>>6282149
>less defensive, more open minded, more chill and sociable
top fucking kehk
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>>6287574
You must be new to the Internet if you think men are any of those things.
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>>6282193
I know exactly what you mean.
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>>6282341
This
To me a girls doesn't need to show off her tits or butt to attract another girls, it would turn me on too, but I mean, it's not necessary, I know exactly what's under your shirt, I have the same thing under mine.
I can imagine some men like simple girls too, but I think they still need more visual stimuli to get attracted to them, to keep the fantasy up
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>>6287733
Lmao this means i'm outside more than you, bull dyke.

Girls are literally shit.
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>>6285841
>Lesbians and straight men both like women but lesbians want that one perfect girl in a romance, while straight guys want to fuck a bunch of different randoms.
Interesting,
I always thought it like :
lesbians fetishize women >they want That perfect girl
straight men fetishize their dick >they want anything On their dick
amirite
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>>6285883
Hello there, I am this anon
>>6285841

My research into catering for transpeople was a lot tougher because I'm working from a small sample size. Collecting on different accounts and opinions of open trans people, there are some interesting findings, but again, please take them with a grain of salt and remember that these are generalizations.

Porn and fetishes vary wildly between individual transwomen and transmen. Most of them are bisexual so their tastes go from vanilla yuri to hardcore hentai. These are the observations based on what I could find.

Transwomen:
>they want to see themselves in the porn
>futa is popular with them for this reason
>but the demand is to shrink the dicks on the girls
>transwomen fall into two camps
>1st type are completely okay with a trans character being post op with no difference from a cis girl
>2nd type want obvious transwomen with dicks
>Moreso than any other gender or orientation, porn involving transwomen get very political
>catering to them, you should be sensitive and careful

Transmen:
>Have not found any porn involving a straight transman and a cis woman
>Have found a lot of porn involving gay ftms and cis gay men
>gay ftms are the loudest of ftms and generally prefer yaoi
>rare to find gay ftms who depict themselves (no bottom surgery) in their porn

If my company asked me how they should make a brand and porn catering to trans women, I would tell them to try to aim for straight/bi men as well since they make up the majority of the futa fandom (I will not argue or state my opinion on whether or not these men can be considered straight because that's a whole different beast). I would tell them to experiment with their porn. One featuring a transgirl or futa (futa =/= trans, is another huge debate, I won't go into that) with a small cock being dominated by a man. Things like that.

If the company asked how they should make a brand/porn for transmen, I'd say just make yaoi.
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>>6289279
Again I want to reinstate that my findings are very generalized.

If the porn company wanted to make a lesbian brand for lesbians, I would tell them to craft romance stories with a lot of sexual tension and two attractive female protagonists can either have a top/bottom dynamic or a versatile dynamic. I'd also tell them to experiment with the top/bottom/versatile roles and different types of women to see which are the biggest hits. I've noticed that lesbians want more badass, tough sort of chicks while straight men are pretty happy with their extremely girly moe waifus.

Lesbians can definitely fetishize women the way straight men do and a lot of straight men are into the purity "only one waifu for me" type of thing. And yes, straight men fetishize their dicks. That is definitely a factor in their tastes. So you are not wrong.
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>>6289343
>Again I want to reinstate that my findings are very generalized.
Yeah I can imagine its some statistical stuff and all, I was saying what I said in a generalized way too
That's really interesting anyways.
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>>6285841
Makes sense to me. I'll start a video but if one of the actresses doesn't appeal to me, or I think she isn't performing the correct role, or the acting isn't on point - I'll dip. It sucks when I find something with pretty faces and decent acting but their nails are super long or their dirty talk is so weak. Yet as long as it appears authentic, I can forgive not having my taste in women. So homemade amateur stuff is my go to. But it's difficult to find. So I rarely look to vids for my porn and go to literature. I'm free to envision everything perfectly in my head.
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To take some of the guess work out of this question: compare /r/gentlemanboners and /r/ladyladyboners. They're supposed to offer the exact same content but one is by and for guys and the other is by and for girls. There is a noticeable difference in aesthetics. It is hard for me to articulate it exactly but I would say that the posts on /r/ladyladyboners feature women who look softer and more at ease/happy.
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>>6289275
What's it like to be this boring in regards to 51% of the world?
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>>6285841
Your findings will be pretty flawed by the fact that most lesbian porn is very similar and just plain bad though. As >>6289795 implied there's just so much of "long nails exclusively straight" women and it's just not interesting. Neither is there ever any dynamic because both are equally disinterested and their acting job is to fake doing something for one minute and fake receiving something the next minute. I much rather watch straight porn than much of the lesbian, because there's at least natural dynamics to it.
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>>6291771
Most lesbian porn is designed for straight men because straight men and gay men are the ones most likely to pay and support for the porn they want.

There was one entrepreneur who came to me, wishing to make a lesbian brand, I straight up told her that making lesbian porn for lesbians is a nice fast way to go bankrupt. Lesbians are a small population and they don't really search or support porn the way men do. I also say this of transwomen and transmen. Transwomen and transmen, despite their porn intake, are not likely to support your porn business considering how expensive transitioning is.

You can make porn for straight women and make a pretty decent living. Best fetishes to make cash in? Futanari, gay male, and yaoi. Also furries pay nice cash if you draw whatever weirdo fetishes they ask for. The fetishes that would be considered outliers have dedicated communities that are desperate for more porn so catering to them is not a bad idea.

For entrepreneurs seeking to make porn exclusively for lesbians or transpeople, I suggest you do it out of love. Don't do it for the money.
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>>6291338
I see what you mean. Cobie Smulders is beautiful, but this is not the image of her I would have chosen.
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Faggot here, heres a few things I find myself attracted to;
>Power, mostly in terms of physicality but it also /can/ apply in other terms.
>I like the shape of a mans body, pretty much all types, how twinky boys have a kinda muted hourglass shape, swimmers got that Triangle bod, bears have a really strong looking chest/tummy/arms.
>cock, obviously, far superior to nasty ass vagina
>the scents men wear appeal much more to me, women scents are too sweet
>stubble, roughness on their hands
>their natural smell after a long day in the sun or something, not the bad kind of BO just the smell where you can tell he was sweating
>Boys smiles are normally a cheeky smile which always gets me
>they have the same humour interests as me, and while I've got generally eccentric hobbies I can enjoy aspects of most generic male hobbies.

Idk what else, its hard to explain why you find people attractive, especially for me cause i don't just go for one type of guy, I find lots of them attractive, from 5'8 twinks to 6'5" bears.
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>>6293866

oh also man bodies are generally pretty tight, until you get mega fucking obese men don't really jiggle, I like jiggling my friends tits cause its hilarious but I like the general firmness of a mans body.
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>>6293866
Half faggot here

Ditto on what you said, but something I've found interesting is girls like proportional sized dicks, while gay men are more of a "bigger is better"approach

In dating, guys are so much less complicated and are more likely to tell me how they feel, from my experience. They rarely just hide secrets or so, and are more up front with sex. Also plus is I already know how their body is so it isn't an unfamiliar shape. Sex is very different from straight cuz whole different workings.
Girls are more confusing. They aren't as upfront with sex and are somewhat prude on the subject, but do a lot more interactions and seem to have more passion for interacting with me. Makes me feel naturally like a puzzle piece was put in place.

To give it a good metaphor, I like both. But both are very different. It's like alcohol and weed, both give different buzzes, but sometimes I just find it so much easier and quicker to just smoke weed.
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>>6282149
>tfw you gay and you find it very hard to be around girls because spaghetti
>also your interests usually don't overlap enough to have a decent conversation, unlike with guys
>guys are also hard to approach because ur a grill and a bit of an autist
>tfw I can't make friends since I got into college
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