Do you think pedophiles and zoophiles will try to shoehorn their agenda under lgbt? They are technically a minority sexual orientation, so it would make sense.
Pedos are already doing it, there are countless threads about how they're a sexual lgbt minority and modern pro pedo literature focuses on comparing their struggle to that of lgbt individuals.
Western society is becoming quickly accepting of a lot of change. Trannies are commonplace now whereas 30 years ago they were unmedicated pariahs. It's now ridiculous to be homophobic. Things like nonbinaries, otherkin and demosexuality are getting traction.
Is fucking a 6 year old the next stonewall? Share you thoughts.
>>6259577
don't think so. pedophilia and zoophilia still fall under homosexuality and heterosexuality. Someone who's a pedophile isn't attracted to all children; rather there attracted to the ones that fall under their orientation. Same with furries and such. They'll have a hard time proving that they have a seperate sexuality/orientation that needs advocating for.
However, I do feel that pedophilia maybe needs advocation for less stigmatization, it just doesn't need advocation for rights as there isn't anything legally actively oppressing it (unless you count age of consent laws).
>>6259637
Gay trans and bi zoophiles need out protection. Women who lick out female fish. Men who fuck male dogs in the ass.
>>6259654
they'd be protected under the rights that LGBT gets. otherwise you'd have to confront animal rights groups for other legal issues
Sure, as soon as children are able to consent to sex like a human adult.
Zoophilia is a whole other animal (pardon the pun). I'm probably over-generalizing, but animals aren't sentient or intelligent in the way humans are. Thats also how I would differentiate it from a hypothetical xenophilia, the aliens in that situation would be intelligent beings.
>>6259665
>Sure, as soon as children are able to consent
ew
get the fuck out you sick fuck
>>6259676
lmao
hope this isn't coming from a tranny
>>6259665
I think it's messed up how we can kill animals en masse, but the second you want to stick a dick in it, that's not cool
>>6259577
No, because in those cases, only one party is fighting to be able to fuck another party.
With gay people, both consenting adults were saying they wanted to be able to fuck eachother.
I don't see many 6 year old girls out petitioning to be allowed to fuck 60 year old men
>>6259716
Everyone eats. Very few people feel the urge to stick their dick in an animal (or vice versa). You're entitled to your opinion and I think you raise a valid point, but the fact of the matter is that things everyone does will always be acceptable, and things almost no one does can only become acceptable through time and the efforts of others.
>>6259997
I think if it was legal, or at least less punished, then a lot more people would be open to experimenting with animals
>>6259961
Nambla had a bunch of young boy members so iono
>>6260041
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoophilia_and_the_law_in_the_United_States
looks like the most it brings in most of the US is a misdemeanor. and apparently it's legal to make zoophile pornography in most states ?
>>6259577
>Do you think pedophiles and zoophiles will try to shoehorn their agenda under lgbt?
They already do but have been resoundingly rejected for the obvious consent issues.
There's actually a surprising overlap in anti-tranny and pro-pedo people, they seem to think pedos deserve acceptance more than trannies and are very upset that's not the way things are trending.
>>6259577
They're mental illnesses just like homosexuality, bisexuality and transgenderism, yet they're accepted, so why not pedophilia and zoophilia? Come on, it's 2016!
>>6260130
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>>6260146
Yes, because wanting to stick your penis into a mans hairy shitted up rectum is perfectly natural and totally not going against the single relentless rule of nature; reproduction.
>>6260146
/thread
>>6260159
playing overwatch all day and yelling at your mom that you're out of mountain dew is also against reproduction
>>6260159
So does wanting to stick your dick in a stallions rectum make you double gay?
>>6260166
I'm pointing out it's something wrong hardwired into your brain, of course not that I would expect you with your faggot brain to catch on so easily
Of course, you can just keep on using ad-hominem of how I could be a virgin to prove that you're not mentally ill if that helps you sleep at night boo
>>6260185
Why are you even on lgbt dude? Aren't gays a good thing for you anyway? More chicks for you.
>>6260185
isn't that an ad hominem against the point that consent is the key difference between the two concepts? I at least made the point that there is a lot of things that are anti reproductive, like the condoms that your mom should have been using to prevent you from being here today.
I don't care about zoophilia
People can fuck animals for all I care
I don't have any ill feelings towards pedophiles, they didn't choose. But please stick to loli and 18+
Isn't zoophilia how aids started?
And I think kids are to easily manipulated to ever have pedophilia considered a normal consensual thing. I mean how many people on this board alone were sexually abused and did nothing about it because of some lie or another. I think if pedophilia becomes normal so will other forms of abuse
>>6261437
But anyone can be manipulated into sex. It's how pickup artists work
fucking a 6-yr-old is not the next Stonewall.
but fucking a 16-yr-old is.
>>6259577
The problem for pedos is that they can't convince people that the kids wants to be fucked. A zoophile has a better argument as a male dog will fuck you if you go down on all fours. Because the only metric to determine if something is appropriate is consent right?
>>6262408
You can already fuck a 16 year old in most of the world
>>6262445
But how can a dog consent if it was tricked into thinking you're a dog? That's why they mount
>>6262465
>How can a woman consent to sex if she was made to believe he was rich
>How can he consent to sex if he was made to believe she was cis
>>6262700
Exactly. It's rape.
>>6260159
That's true, but hypothetically both of those men agreed to participate
An animal can't consent and a child doesn't have the capacity to meaningfully consent
>>6259577
Pedos, no way because they're humans and they're minors. It's very different when you're dealing with someone too young to really understand what they're consenting to.
Bestiality might be another matter though because humans are already so shitty to animals. We're already okay with raising pigs which are as smart and social as dogs in metal cages and then slaughtering them en masse so we have enough bacon.
As gross as it is to pretty much anyone else, I can't see that some fat loner letting a dog lick peanut putter off her cunt, or some dude diddling a sheep is that much worse. I dunno, it would be pretty freaking weird but in a few decades? Who knows.
>>6259577
First question, yes, but zoophiles will have a much tougher time of it.
There is a thick grey area between actual pedos and people that 'Murcans label as pedos. The violence and abuse will only be tamed after these distinctions are made clear.
As gender rules get left behind with the 20th century, the younger generations will demand more compassion for the sexual freedom of teenagers over 15, and the sexual freedom of siblings(believe it or not). As the population of people over 60 begins to overwhelm the younger populations, generational difference will lead to violent divides.
Your last question is way off base. Maybe 14
>>6263317
I actually really like Canada's laws around this. A few years ago they raised age of consent from 16 to 18, but they put in a clause that no matter your age you can safely engage in sex with anyone within two years of you. They did that because they wanted to protect young people from older potential predators, but didn't want to discourage experimentation in the youth or to criminalize situations like an 17 year old dating an 18 year old. I thought it was quite forward thinking.
>>6260159
Nice appeal to nature fallacy.
Medicine and computers and contraceptives aren't natural either and contraceptives definitely go against "the single relentless rule of nature" but I don't see sperging about them because they don't upset your retarded feels.
>>6263249
Like when a girl consensually sleeps with a guy and then later decides they'd rather not be seen as sleeping with someone not cool enough, is that rape too?
If they lie about the car they have is it rape?
Is everyone who doesn't tell 100% the truth about everything a rapist?
How many people do you suppose actually give a full sober accurate documentary about themselves without any stretching of the truth to make them seem better or not mention some issue that they need to build trust to open up about?
>>6263393
>Some people are so fucking stupid
That's how they end up trolling on /lgbt/.
>>6259665
Please kill yourself, you'd be doing the world a service.
>>6263249
Are you saying that if I falsely told someone I was a millionaire and they had sex with it, that it would be rape? That's what it sounds like, but that's absurd.
>>6263378
As someone who compulsively seeks to get fucked bareback, I can attest to the likelihood that such is a symptom of a mental illness. IMO the illness is sex addiction. I engage in risky/harmful behaviors even though I want to stop. I've tried to live abstinent or limit to one partner and no butt stuff, but I always go back. This illness is no respecter of orientation, gender, family history, or genetics. It crosses all boundaries. That said, not everyone's doing butt stuff.
>>6260049
North American Marlon Brando Look-Alikes?
>>6263456
That just sounds like OCD. You can be OCD about any number of things. The getting fucked is how it presents itself but it's not the root problem.
>>6263366
It was 14 to 16, not 16 to 18
>>6263481
Ahh yes, you're right. Even better. 16 seems like a reasonable age.
Age of consent is a cultural issue and morality is relative, meaning men in the middle east and Africa can marry a girl much younger than those in Asia, who can marry younger than those in the west. A big change coming though is the rise not of Islam in Europe in general but actual Islamic migrants, and they bring their cultural norms and laws with them. I saw some of the more accepting countries have already changed articles to be more welcoming to these differences, for example if a 40yr old man has a 10yr old child bride then it's considered fine because back in the middle east they were legally married and we shouldn't oppress their culture or faith.
Islam hates different sexualities, most people on this board would be beheaded or thrown off buildings if outed in Islamic shariah law ruled countries, but I wouldn't be surprised if pedos used their child bride thing as a way to ease up on the age of consent and child marriages.
>>6263366
Certain US states are like this. I believe Maryland has the age of consent at 16 with an allowed 4 year gap.
Most US states have the age of consent at 16, actually, but some are 18.
>>6263859
On,y 8 states out of 50 are 18. The idea that anyone under 18 is too young to fuck is not even a majority opinion of the US, which is only 4% of the worlds population, but its only a law among less than 20% of that US population. Its a perfect example of groupthink.
>>6263837
>for example if a 40yr old man has a 10yr old child bride then it's considered fine because back in the middle east they were legally married and we shouldn't oppress their culture or faith.
Post an example of this happening.
>>6264149
You quoted someone else but linked me, so I'm not sure what kind of a response you're looking for.
I don't think 4 year olds marrying/fucking 10 year olds is ever good.
>>6264171
I edited the post, sorry.
>>6263378
>Nice appeal to nature fallacy.
Shhhhhh.
Soon he'll pull the "Just because it's unnatural doesn't mean it's bad" card, the "murder is natural too, does that mean it should be legal" card and the "I'll ignore any contradiction in my arguments but attack you because of it" card.
>>6259577
Pedophiles should kill themselves.
I don't give a shit about zoophiles, but they don't belong under the umbrella.
>>6259577
>Do you think pedophiles and zoophiles will try to shoehorn their agenda under lgbt?
Obviously.
And if they don't do it, straight people will in order to discredit us.
Not that that is needed since they're not gonna change their opinions about us anyway.
>>6259577
probably, most people try to shoehorn anything under their existing in group. see feminism at first being chirstian conservatism, then co-opted by man haters in the 70s, its been that way till now. new wave feminism is just old wave feminism with a shiny new internet.
I honestly hope pedos get some recognition becuase witch hunting be retarded yo, I suspect the radical pedos are too radical for that to happen. many pedos want to legalize having cp, to some extent that does make sense, (typically cops use it to get a nice sure win witch hunt case, since everyone wants to see the witch burn, but rarely try to bust an actual ring, which takes work. plus theres that hilariously awful shit where children taking pictures of themselves can go to prison for life for exploiting themselves. ) but despite all the awful shit related to it I don't see that ever working, especially when there will be nutcases argueing that actual sex with children is totally okay and statutory rape isn't a thing right beside them.
they have their pros, but public fear is going to make their radicals seem even more crazy than the black panthers or radfems.
ironically nothing will be done to curb the biggest cause of child molestation. the imbalance of power between family and child. thats where 90% of the rapes come from anyway, but every mommy is afraid of boogyman billybob down the road. Sadly, kids are fucking retarded, so i doubt that theres any decent solution to that anyway other than less kids, more parents. the entire fabric of our society would have to change for several familys to consider a kid their child together.
>>6264156
This has happened in Sweden where I live. There are several cases where social services deliberately doesn't break up marriages between underage girls and middle aged men. Google it.
>>6259577
Zoophiles yeah. Pedos no.
There's an instinctive revulsion toward pedos that every person feels, that can't really be removed from the human psyche
>>6259676
I found the person who doesn't understand satire.
>>6259676
>>6274302
how is that even satire? if a child has all the mental faculties of an adult and isn't treated like a slave by society, that's just good sense that they should be allowed to fuck whoever the hell they want. now, this will never fucking happen without wierd future magitech bullshit but hey, you can't tell someone that's a fully mentally developed adult that they can't have sex because their short and flat chested/high of sack.
>>6259577
>Things like nonbinaries, otherkin and demosexuality are getting traction.
Are you joking?
Literally nobody has ever taken """otherkin""" seriously
and no, childfucking will never be ok, and zoophilia isn't even an orientation. I'd imagine we'll see acceptance of "non-practicing" paedohiles and funding for therapy or some shit so they don't act on their weird urges.
>>6274382
> I'd imagine we'll see acceptance of "non-practicing" paedohiles and funding for therapy or some shit so they don't act on their weird urges.
absolutely doubt this. it's the sensible thing to do, but once they get the public spotlight theres going to be a lot of creepy retards who will try and rationalize that sex between adults and children is okay.
>>6274382
>zoophilia isn't even an orientation
That is true, but there are people who are "gay zoos" into animals of their own genders who are claiming that it's gay because in their fucked up heads an animal is equal to a person mentally and can consent. Therefore two consenting males = gay so protect mah rights!
Can you tell I have heard this stupid argument before? Yes, it's a real thing.
