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I am afraid to come out. Not because of family but because I have no one at school who would support me. I recently changed schools and I want to come out so I can feel better about myself. But I'm afraid if I do everyone will turn me away. BTW there are not LGBT groups here.
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>>5321323
Just make sure you are physically safe. If you feel uncomfortable about it then don't.
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>>5321323
You only have to do it when you're comfortable
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Reported for underage/b&

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is being a gay male inherently misogynistic?

think about it, you are a privileged sex that refuses to get romantically involved with a marginalized group by society

we need to address this and do something about it
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>>5319724
No, not really

That's a very clearly legitimate flag you're waving, OP. Did you get it from the social group you clearly represent?
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>>5319724
>Privileged sex
Ahahahahahahahaha
>>>/tumblr/
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>>5319724
>is being a gay male inherently misogynistic?
>think about it, you are a privileged sex that refuses to get romantically involved with a marginalized group by society
>we need to address this and do something about it

LOL. Oh my god, this thread is going to be fucking delicious once all the fags start responding to OP seriously. I need that muthafuckin' jello to settle so I can enjoy this.

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College freshman here. Have the freedom to go clubbing, but only time I have has been with female friends who don't wanna split up (Ergo I can't go home with someone) or someone whom I'm already with (Same situation but worse since I can't even dance with dudes)

Is it strange to just take an uber there alone friday night and see what happens?
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>>5319256
about 50% of the guys there are alone.
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>>5319256
I've done that before, with mixed results. It really depends on you. If you have the confidence to approach strangers, despite whatever they may assume about you for being alone, then more power to you.
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>>5319317
Any tips on that? By no means a shy person, just curious what your experience was.

I;e good places to strike up a conversation if you are too young to drink at the bar

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Almost every tranny in porn has that ugly scar under her breasts which makes me suspect why every tranny needs implants. Seeing myself being on the flatchested spectrum I am starting to fear I am going to need implants too because I have huge puffy nipples but nothing really around or under which makes my chest weird looking? It's like if my nipples stayed a decent size it would be okay I guess but they don't, they are like silver dollar sized already. Do I really have to end up with visible scars like some dangerous felon?
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Your first mistake is comparing yourself to porn stars. Don't do that.
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>>5320776
This.
Almost everything about porn is fake. You can find those kind of scars on non trans women too. And a lot of guys use either crushed up viagra or inject chemicals straight into their dicks to be able to perform. It's theater, not reality.
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mine started out like that. nipples puffed right the fuck up, and it's taken like a year and a half for the boob to start catching up. they're also starting to unpuff now, thankfully.

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When i was in my Teens, i used to fantasize about being a girl, used to dream about what it would be like to wear womans cloths and be feminine. i even had litteral dreams about being a girl that made me quite happy. 15 years later, and 6"5 with a beard and huge feet, these desires are creeping back very slightly, but i push them aside because of figures above, im pretty damned huge.

My problem is, i love being a guy, i want to work out, improve my muscle and bang the missus with my huge penis. but i still wonder, like im sure many others do aswell. what would it...
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See a therapist. I'd be pretty conflicted if I were in your position

>When i was in my Teens, i used to fantasize about being a girl, used to dream about what it would be like to wear womans cloths and be feminine. i even had litteral dreams about being a girl that made me quite happy
> i love being a guy, i want to work out, improve my muscle and bang the missus with my huge penis
these two things don't really add up desu senpai
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>>5317531
Get into therapy. Find a gender therapist and talk these thoughts and issues through with them. Not everybody has totransition, and even those that transition, only a minority need to go all the way.

Furthermore, at 6'5, clothing is still available. Places like Long Tall Sally have 38" inseams, and tops with long arms.
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Im not sure if i WANT to transition though, im happy as a guy, just wish there was a button so i could be a woman for a day or something, if that makes sense.

Since this board is full of people who have way more experience that me, I though I should as you guys.
Since I was like 15, I never liked being a man. I didn't like to be the man in the relationship, in the bed, in the role, etc. I never liked to look at straight porn, I hated dicks, and I only watched lesbian porn. Last night, I was scared, I am a masochist, I like girls, so far, any girls that Ive talked to say that the man shouldn't be a masochist in a relationship and that no girl likes a masochist man. I was so scared last night, that I cried.
To distract...
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>>5314043
Speak to a therapist.
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What if you are a boy body trapped with a girl's mind inside him?
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>>5314043
>I don't like being a guy, I hate my body and its feature, I hate what society has made my role, and most of all, I can't imagine being a dominate one in the relationship.
that's a very tranny sentence

see a therapist

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What is your opinion on genderfluid people?
(I'm a Panromantic Asexual genderfluid person. :3)
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Its not real, just like your special snowflake identity.
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You must be new here.

Go back to tumblr.
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>>5322690
My opinion: OP should commit suicide, or at least get off the Web once in a while. Literally, go take a hike.

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If there was a way to determine if a baby was going to be cis or trans, would you do it? If it was trans, would you have an abortion? Why?
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>>5322189
In all honesty? Yes, I would abort it. I would not wish that on anyone. Society is not all together ready and the treatment is mediocre at best unless you have a metric fuck ton of money.
I am a bit ashamed to admit that but I would not want someone to have to experience life this way.
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>>5322213
I appreciate your honesty
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I would abort, trannies seem like a miserable bunch

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What have you done to remove Kebab /mtfg/?
▶Informed Consent Providers: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/932389/Trans/Stepping%20Forward%20-%20Informed%20Consent%20Clinics.pdf
▶Makeup Tutorial: http://imgur.com/a/JO33K/
▶MTF Info Dump: http://pastebin.com/36HC6ZmT (embed)
▶Trans Info Dump: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d9KKqP9IHa5ZxU84a_Jf0vIoAh7e8nj_lCW27KbYBh0/edit?usp=sharing
▶Size charts: http://www.americanapparel.net/sizing/default.asp?chart=womens.pantse_conversion_chart.php
▶Transition timelines: http://imgur.com/a/qWpxv
▶Voice...
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>>5321366
Dafuq is that on the left
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>>5321366
My ass is as tone as a greek goddess
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nth for yuri

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>>5320658

I like Santa
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I <3 shukir but justin is superior
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>>5320658
Gross

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prove me wrong
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>>5317295
Still a dick involved in and around my mouth.
Pretty gay desu senpai
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>>5317295
>if you're only attracted to men who wear a certain type of clothes you're not really attracted to men
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>>5317295
>if you're a boy and only attracted to boys you're not gay

whatever makes you feel good

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What do you guys think about homosexuality within masculine and straight context. That is to say, straight men who do gay stuff but don't consider it gay because it is within a hetero space. A great example is frat hazing. Men will get naked, grab each other's cocks and then walk around but not consider it gay because the context is straight. Or a frat pledge will do "the hot dog" where he has to suck off all the ketchup/mustard from a guys dick example http://xhamster.com/movies/3214877/public_frat_pledge_with_hot_dog.html

What our your thoughts on...
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>>5316185
It's called "denial".
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>>5316188
But these are large groups of men. Its not like it is just one or two guys within the frat. It is all of them 20+
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When I was in uni, there was an acquaintance I had who was in a frat. He told me some of the more party-oriented (i.e. popular) frats would try to recruit (a few) homosexuals every so often, and then they would use these homosexuals as 'torture masters': that is, these homos would be given free reign over the hazing activities, accounting for the explicitly gay shit that occurred within them. Don't know if it was a campus-specific thing, or not.

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How can I find a man who either is castrated or simply has no testosterone or is totally asexual? I've fucking had it with every single man being a violent, sex-obsessed sociopath.
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... :l
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Ming Dynasty China was a great place to find eunuchs.

It's a bit harder nowadays, though.
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>>5309985
If you're looking for asexual people, acegen would probably be the best place to start.
Also:
>inb4 somebody suggests mtfg or tlg

How many of you gays have an older brother?

http://strawpoll.me/6130918

What do you think of the birth order theory?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biology_and_sexual_orientation#Birth_order
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I think its bullshit. I'm the firstborn and I only have one little sister. I mean I'm trans if that means anything but I did tell people I was gay since I was 14 and dated as a gay guy up to the age of 19 when I realized I couldn't get away with it for my entire life.
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>>5309082
It's bullshit for sure.
Oldest here and really fucking gay.
Really petite too.
My younger brother might be smaller than me, but there's no way he's homosexual.
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>>5309119
>Entire study is bullpoop because of this one example

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Any other MtFs on here who don't want to tuck and/or don't do it?
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I hope you're wearing skirts then
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>>5297108
I like my penis free, but i will use "lycra" pants, so...
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>>5297108
I want to but I am just lazy and it hurts.

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